View Full Version : Green Lantern #200 Was Hal not a GL previously?
BadBoy House
02-15-2011, 02:00 PM
Hi all.
Quick question. I've just read Green Lantern #200 - the one before it changed to GL corps. This is pretty much where I'm jumping on to Green Lantern but I've ordered #199 where Hal becomes a Green Lantern again.
In issue 200 someone mentions "Back when Hal was a Green Lantern". Why did Hal stop being a GL??
Cheers
jgiannantoni05
02-15-2011, 02:03 PM
Why did Hal stop being a GL??
I think it's GL 181. Hal quit, due to some dispute with the Guardians. Don't remember, you can look it up.
glennsim
02-15-2011, 02:10 PM
I believe he quit because the Guardians sent him off-world to take care of some alien planet's disaster right has Carol Ferris was having some sort of terrrible thing (albeit not planet-threatening like the aliens) happen to her. The Guardians kept insisting that he patrol his entire sector, not just hang out on Earth all the time.
gwangung
02-15-2011, 02:19 PM
I believe he quit because the Guardians sent him off-world to take care of some alien planet's disaster right has Carol Ferris was having some sort of terrrible thing (albeit not planet-threatening like the aliens) happen to her. The Guardians kept insisting that he patrol his entire sector, not just hang out on Earth all the time.
Of course, if Johns wrote this, he'd show that the Guardians were out of touch authoritarian tools for saying this.
BadBoy House
02-15-2011, 02:45 PM
On another note - what gave Hal his white temples? I thought it was when he became parallax but he had them before that eg vol 3 #1 1990 way before he became parallax.
Presumably he just got them with age?
jgiannantoni05
02-15-2011, 02:59 PM
white temples = Parallax already infected Hal, very slowly breaking him down
that's how you know
Desaad
02-15-2011, 03:06 PM
On another note - what gave Hal his white temples? I thought it was when he became parallax but he had them before that eg vol 3 #1 1990 way before he became parallax.
Presumably he just got them with age?
It as originally an affectation meant to denote that the GA/GL "Hard Traveling 70s" was in continuity, and that Hal had become sort of mature. Gerard Jones played around with this idea over and over, especially against Guy Gardner.
Johns retconned it to be a result of Parallax having infected Hal, from a distance. Hal would have been infected, for what it's worth, sometime during the Action Comics Weekly era, since it was during this period (at the end of v2) that Sinestro would have entered the battery, spiritually.
It, ironically, makes more sense this way, since you don't just go gray overnight.
protonik
02-15-2011, 03:18 PM
The Guardians as authoritarian tools has been their standard portrayal for decades, don't know what Johns has to do with that
Desaad
02-15-2011, 03:27 PM
The Guardians as authoritarian tools has been their standard portrayal for decades, don't know what Johns has to do with that
It's true, but he's really amped it up.
But yeah, it's been true almost since Broome left the title. Gerard Jones wanted to go the other way, but editorial wouldn't allow it.
A real shame, as at this point it's just tired.
RickIsley
02-15-2011, 03:30 PM
I also dislike the portrayle of the Guardians authoritarian simpletons. They've been around for billions of years. I'm pretty sure they should have figured out the concept of moral ambiguity by now.
SMKSPY
02-15-2011, 03:30 PM
The Guardians as authoritarian tools has been their standard portrayal for decades, don't know what Johns has to do with that
Because all the kids think it's hip to hate on Johns in any thread having to do with Green Lantern. It's quite tired too.
Guicho
02-15-2011, 03:32 PM
Of course, if Johns wrote this, he'd show that the Guardians were out of touch authoritarian tools for saying this.
Yeah it’s not something Johns made up.
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To the OP; in GL#172. Jordan was finally returning home from a long forced exile, and fought for his right to be based on Earth. In essence to keep his Humanity, (remember at the time he was still the only active human Green Lantern in space)
Inevitably in GL #178 - the Guardians called him away on a mission while all his friends were in grave danger, he was forced to choose, and did his duty, a planet was at stake. -http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1841/gl179jordanquits1.jpg
And so abandoning his friends while they were all in danger, he saved the planet, but it was the last straw, and in GL #181 he temporarily quit to be with them.
Although the book still centered on and arownd Ferris Air, and his ongoing story was still central to the plot.
RickIsley
02-15-2011, 03:40 PM
Yeah it’s not something Johns made up.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8743/gl172exile.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1228/gl172exile2.jpg
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what was that from?
It's interesting to see that Saalak was sort of a d-bag. John's version is actually much kinder.
The Lucky One
02-15-2011, 06:28 PM
Uh... why is Hal calling them "masters"? A healthy respect for your bosses is one thing, but dude, no need to be obsequious. One element of the mythos I'm not sorry to have seen fall by the wayside.
-D
Theozilla
02-15-2011, 06:42 PM
Uh... why is Hal calling them "masters"? A healthy respect for your bosses is one thing, but dude, no need to be obsequious. One element of the mythos I'm not sorry to have seen fall by the wayside.
-D
Well, Jedi called Yoda "master." And the Guardians are arguably more jery blue Yodas...:tongue:
Lewismio
02-15-2011, 07:11 PM
A man has needs!
Retrodork
02-16-2011, 07:22 AM
If I recall the issue correctly, Carol exploded at Hal and said, "Its me or the ring", so he quit. A man has needs indeed!
Then all those intrigues around Ferris started cropping up with the Predator, Hal tried taking him on without the ring, got his ass handed to him, decided to take him on again, but a whole helluva lot smarter this time, and managed to break the Predator's arm! Of course, it was a phyrric victory, because Carol wound up merged with the Predator and became the ultra-bitchy incarnation of Star Sapphire that wound up killing Katma Tui. Should have kept the ring, Hal....
MFitzH2O
02-16-2011, 07:34 AM
It as originally an affectation meant to denote that the GA/GL "Hard Traveling 70s" was in continuity, and that Hal had become sort of mature. Gerard Jones played around with this idea over and over, especially against Guy Gardner.
Johns retconned it to be a result of Parallax having infected Hal, from a distance. Hal would have been infected, for what it's worth, sometime during the Action Comics Weekly era, since it was during this period (at the end of v2) that Sinestro would have entered the battery, spiritually.
It, ironically, makes more sense this way, since you don't just go gray overnight.
I thought it showed a passage of time between 'then' and 'now' at the beginning of the series; it didn't nee to say 'FIVE YEARS LATER': we see in panel that Hal's aged, that he's been on the road, stressed, tired. He's wiped out and it shows. I liked the graying Hal, thought it showed a bit of ... experience? I don't know, it looked like he'd put in some serious time as a GL, that he ... aged.
That whole 'Parallax infection' ... BAH! I thought the 'infection' began with Emerald Dawn and culminated with 'Twilight?
ducklord
02-16-2011, 09:43 AM
One of the cool bits of trivia surrounding Hal's nearly two-year resignation:
Even though Hal's journey to eventually become a GL again is a major plot thread in the Green Lantern Crisis Crossovers, Hal Jordan is one of a very few DCU characters (and by far the most prominent) that doesn't appear for even one stinking panel in the main Crisis on Infinite Earths series.
Ambush Bug? Poster.
Inferior Five? Check.
Earth-Two Batman? Monitor screen.
John Constantine? Yup.
Lori Lemaris? No problem.
Earth-One Peter Parker? Sure.
But no Hal Jordan.
Pretty weird, no?
Mike
BadBoy House
02-16-2011, 10:24 AM
Thanks for clearing up my questions. Much appreciated.
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