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02-10-2011, 10:08 AM
While specific details about Zack Snyder's "Superman" film remain sparce, the director has revealed one thing about the franchise's relaunch: he intends to make the character a very physical Man of Steel. SPINOFF has more.
Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=30769).
Lancerman
02-10-2011, 12:29 PM
Makes sense. The most common complaint I heard concerning Superman Returns was the lack of action. You have the hero that more than anybody else is more prone to action and displays of incredible feats. He should have done much more than stop an out of control aeroplane (which is one of the biggest cliches in Superman lore), and push a giant rock into orbit.
Kunoichi
02-10-2011, 01:00 PM
That would be nice.
Lord Bravery
02-10-2011, 01:03 PM
Makes sense. The most common complaint I heard concerning Superman Returns was the lack of action. You have the hero that more than anybody else is more prone to action and displays of incredible feats. He should have done much more than stop an out of control aeroplane (which is one of the biggest cliches in Superman lore), and push a giant rock into orbit.
Don't forget catching a car with it's brakes cut!
:mad:
clownprince01
02-10-2011, 04:24 PM
This should make a lot of people happy. And knowing Zack Snyder, I daresay that 50% of the those action scenes will be in highly stylised slow motion. Not that I'm complaining.
Jake V
02-10-2011, 04:42 PM
This should make a lot of people happy. And knowing Zack Snyder, I daresay that 50% of the those action scenes will be in highly stylised slow motion. Not that I'm complaining.
Which is fine, given that otherwise, Superman would be doing things so fast we couldn't see them.
The Gorn Identity
02-10-2011, 06:32 PM
Superman needs an enemy (or enemies) that can take a punch or two from him. Brainiac, Darkseid, Doomsday, Bizarro. I'd be thrilled to see any of these villains in the new film. Especially Brainiac. He's long overdue for a big screen appearance.
jackdoe
02-10-2011, 06:34 PM
Makes sense. The most common complaint I heard concerning Superman Returns was the lack of action. You have the hero that more than anybody else is more prone to action and displays of incredible feats. He should have done much more than stop an out of control aeroplane (which is one of the biggest cliches in Superman lore), and push a giant rock into orbit.
I completely agree. Stopping natural disasters SHOULDN'T be your final setpiece for a movie (even if they are caused by Lex Luthor both times). Especially a movie that cost as much as Superman Returns did. Honestly, that was a prime example of excess CGI blowing up a budget. Sure, the CGI model of Routh looked amazing in closeups, but you really shouldn't use a CGI models for those types of shots in the first place. You either end up spending too much to make it believable or it looks fake (Attack of the Clones).
hellacre
02-10-2011, 07:30 PM
Great, more superman and less super emo/mooner please.:smile:
Silvermoth
02-10-2011, 11:09 PM
Cue Olivia Newton John singing "I wanna get physical"
numberONE
02-11-2011, 01:07 AM
This should be good. Hopefully this movie is somewhere between Superman Returns and 300 on the violence scale. I'm looking forward to Superman giving some super villains serious beat-downs.
Mayowa
02-11-2011, 09:37 AM
This is news? I thought the whole point of having Snyder was because someone saw 300 and went "f*** yeah! Let's have this 'visionary' director do that to Superman!" What was everybody expecting? I like Snyder as a director and all, but If anything, I'm araid they're going to go too far in the opposite direction from Superman Returns and it'll be a big, loud, silly (not in the good way), very possibly humourless, shallow "blockbuster" movie that's way too action-oriented.
Snyder's a talented guy, but frankly, he's not at all on the same level as what I've seen from Christopher Nolan. Action is easy and cheap. It's the craft and some of the best stoytelling in comics that's made Superman shine time and again.
So, yeah, I'm very on the fence about the whole Zack Snyder deal. But we'll see.
erzan
02-11-2011, 10:22 AM
I repeat what has been said before, this is news? anything beats watching a dull looking superman catch a plane, car, roof sign and lift a giant rock. (im laughing so hard right now) When you have RDJ in Iron man 2 blow up his villain, Superman returns action makes me want to cry with sadness.
jackdoe
02-11-2011, 10:34 AM
This is news? I thought the whole point of having Snyder was because someone saw 300 and went "f*** yeah! Let's have this 'visionary' director do that to Superman!" What was everybody expecting? I like Snyder as a director and all, but If anything, I'm araid they're going to go too far in the opposite direction from Superman Returns and it'll be a big, loud, silly (not in the good way), very possibly humourless, shallow "blockbuster" movie that's way too action-oriented.
Snyder's a talented guy, but frankly, he's not at all on the same level as what I've seen from Christopher Nolan. Action is easy and cheap. It's the craft and some of the best stoytelling in comics that's made Superman shine time and again.
So, yeah, I'm very on the fence about the whole Zack Snyder deal. But we'll see.
To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing them move completely in the opposite direction of Superman Returns. While I liked some aspects of Superman Returns, the whole movie felt like a rehash of the original Donner Superman movie, of which I had many problems as well (though Reeves was probably the best Superman ever). I welcome any new take on Superman in film.
Mayowa
02-11-2011, 01:10 PM
Don't get me wrong, folks. Certainly, I had my own problems with Superman Returns. I simply didn't care to say so, because I felt it was generally undersood that the movie was a huge pile of meh. It wasn't a bad film, but it was by no means a great movie, either, and what it was more than anything was dull. And sappy. And a little saccharine. And it treated its title character like a prop. And his hair was parted on the wrong side.
So, I am very much in favor of introducing more action to Superman. Years and years of depictions of mopey, navel-gazing, ineffectual, crybaby Superman in the comics have also contributed to this view. It's why I rather liked the idea of that Italian guy from True Blood who had been rumored for the role of Superman for the very reason that he was a 180 from randon Routh (no offense to Routh) and that looking at him puts me in mind of a physicality, forcefulness and simplicity of Superman that tends to often get lost these days.
But there's such a thing as moderation, which movie guys and fans alike tend to overlook when they get carried away about this sort of thing.
I still believe that it's not about what the characters do, but how they do it, and that not everything has to be epic in scope. What's the most exciting thing Batman does in The Dark Knight? Overturn a truck? And look what Batman does with his villains in that movie. Lame on the face of it, and yet...
As far as I'm concerned, Superman should be a huge movie, with spectacular action, and production value that makes Avatar look like it was shot in home video...in the 1980's. But if it isn't that won't break the bank for me either. I just don't want a movie that's a mindless string of fight scenes with 0 character development.
It is my opinion that Iron Man wouldn't have been half as enjoyable - or half as popular - as it was if it weren't for the solid character work done that went into Tony Stark, and it's a scientific fact that it was RDJ's insane performance that won the movie many points. I mean, I orgasmed at his armor (which made the Extremis look obsolete, IMO) and loved the hell out of the initial flight scene, but in the end it was the investment in character that made an otherwise middle-of-the-road action movie stand out.
Besides, the last fight in Iron Man was spectacularly lame and anticlimactic. And don't even get me started on IM2.
clownprince01
02-11-2011, 05:11 PM
I want spectacular action scenes as much as the next man, and with Snyder I think that's guaranteed, I mean, look at the first scene of Watchmen if you need convincing. But action scenes don't make or break the movie.
While The Dark Knight had many actions scenes, Nolan himself is not that accomplished an action director. In fact, if anything, the best scene was probably the interrogation scene. Iron Man was good, but if not for Robert Downey Jr, the film would've been very average. He elevated the script and made it much more enjoyable than it should've been.
Guess what I'm saying is, there are a lot more factors at play than just action. And unlike many other people, I'm convinced Snyder can bring the goods when it comes to crafting interesting characters. He handled Rorschach and Manhattan superbly in Watchmen. Granted that had a lot to do with the script, but Snyder's massive contribution as director should not be overlooked.
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