House of M???

[hbkabdul]

Anybody heard anything new on House of M? The only things I know so far are its going to involve the X-men and the Avengers supposedly and that events from Disassembled will effect the story. Waid's new spider-man series is supposed to be involved in some way as well. From sketches i've seen Wanda plays a role the sketches i saw were reminiscient of the scene in Avengers where Wanda is with her "kids" Vision and Simon believing she is living the happy life.

[Dermie]

It is spinning out of the Disassembled event, so it will be dealing heavily with the Scarlet Witch and what is happening with her.

Apparently a bunch of the former Avengers are going to be a part of the series (not just the New Avengers) and Wonder Man is going to play a significant role.

[Ryan K]

There's a thread on this on the X-Books forum

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=27705&highlight=house+bendis

:)

[hbkabdul]

yea but i thought it was like a marvel universe thing and not just an x-men thing so why not start one here for any new news.

[Crimson]

It does cross over but its main point is X-Men... kinda like Onslaught or Avengers Dissasembled being a Avengers thing even though it touched all corners of the Marvel Universe (or so we were told, it didn't quite end up like that).

[Dermie]

It does cross over but its main point is X-Men... kinda like Onslaught or Avengers Dissasembled being a Avengers thing even though it touched all corners of the Marvel Universe (or so we were told, it didn't quite end up like that).

Actually, I don't think House Of M is supposed to be primarily X-Men---my understanding is that it is an X-Men/Avengers crossover. It is equally about both groups.

[Venomous]

Is it just me or are mutants always the centre of these Marvel crossovers? Inferno, The Morlock Massacre, Onslaught, Disassembled, OZT

[csaver]

Well, there was the "Acts of Vengence" crossover that centered mostly on the Avengers. And then there was...um...uhhh...

Boy, those mutants get around, huh?

[Beast]

Well, since the focus of 'House of M' is Magneto and his children, I think it fits better in the 'X-Men' forum than it does in the Marvel Universe one. But that's just me. Can't wait for it though, looks like it's going to be good. :)

[Kevinroc]

Well, since the focus of 'House of M' is Magneto and his children, I think it fits better in the 'X-Men' forum than it does in the Marvel Universe one. But that's just me. Can't wait for it though, looks like it's going to be good. :)

I thought "House of M" was an X-Men/ New Avengers story with Magneto and his children playing a large role.

[metr0man]

Wait a sec, House of M is spun off/continues from Disassembled?

Ugh. There go my potential sales.

[hbkabdul]

does it matter if its x-men or marvel u crossover? wheres the news nobody seems to have heard a thing about this series thus far. any speculation at least?

[Crimson]

does it matter if its x-men or marvel u crossover? wheres the news nobody seems to have heard a thing about this series thus far. any speculation at least?

Everything is in that thread... its very early days plus chances are this one will be kept under raps as well as they can

[Karl J. Barnes]

Is it just me or are mutants always the centre of these Marvel crossovers? Inferno, The Morlock Massacre, Onslaught, Disassembled, OZT

Well, it's because as a group, they're pretty insecure.

[hbkabdul]

OK heres some new news finally on House of M courtesy lying in the gutters which im sure youve all read.

There are already rumours groaning about his next big project, "House Of M," the rival to DC's Crisis II. In which, Lying In The Gutters is told that Magneto, fearing that Emma Frost will have his dear Scarlet Witch murdered, has her daughter remake the Marvel Universe in his ideal "image" - mutants as homo superior exerting their control over the homo sapiens. Supposed to run for a couple of months, before Wolverine, of course, realizes things are not as they should be, and tips the other key characters, Cap, Spider-Man, DD, etc to make things right. Very Age-Of_Apocalypsy. Marvel's using the stunt to fix any and all continuity gaffes through their history as well. Their version of Alan Moore's "Fluke" from the Twilight proposal.

hmmm sound like it might be a good series lets hope Bendis that wrote Secret War and New Avengers is writing this and not the Bendis that wrote Avengers Disassembled. anybody got any thoughts?

[Cayman]

OK heres some new news finally on House of M courtesy lying in the gutters which im sure youve all read.

There are already rumours groaning about his next big project, "House Of M," the rival to DC's Crisis II. In which, Lying In The Gutters is told that Magneto, fearing that Emma Frost will have his dear Scarlet Witch murdered, has her daughter remake the Marvel Universe in his ideal "image" - mutants as homo superior exerting their control over the homo sapiens. Supposed to run for a couple of months, before Wolverine, of course, realizes things are not as they should be, and tips the other key characters, Cap, Spider-Man, DD, etc to make things right. Very Age-Of_Apocalypsy. Marvel's using the stunt to fix any and all continuity gaffes through their history as well. Their version of Alan Moore's "Fluke" from the Twilight proposal.

hmmm sound like it might be a good series lets hope Bendis that wrote Secret War and New Avengers is writing this and not the Bendis that wrote Avengers Disassembled. anybody got any thoughts?


Seems a little doubtful, Bendis doesn't seem like a writer who cares to waste time "fixing" continuity issues.

Cay

[kossori]

Has anyone considered that "M" in "House of M" could stand for "Marvel" just as much as "Magneto"?
"House of Marvel"?

Time for cleaning?

[JBeckett]

what I'm reading/hearing is what sounds a lot like the whole Kulan Gath storyline that ran through Uncanny in the 190's, just with Magneto's take instead. I'm interested but we'll just have to see. I like Magneto as a villain and the whole Disassembled thing with Wanda put Magneto in a position to be....villainous. I don't read Excalibur though-what's his status right now? Last I heard of Magneto was after Morrisson wrote him in New X-Men.

[hbkabdul]

I think my head would explode if i tried to explain the whole Magneto situation since Morrison left. But from what i can understand I think the Magneto in Excalibur isn't even the real Magneto. Will the real Magneto please stand up, please stand up, please stand up..........

[Erik Lehnsherr]

what I'm reading/hearing is what sounds a lot like the whole Kulan Gath storyline that ran through Uncanny in the 190's, just with Magneto's take instead. I'm interested but we'll just have to see. I like Magneto as a villain and the whole Disassembled thing with Wanda put Magneto in a position to be....villainous. I don't read Excalibur though-what's his status right now? Last I heard of Magneto was after Morrisson wrote him in New X-Men.


The Magneto in Excalibur is the REAL Magneto. The question that's been roaming for months is if he's being mind controlled because of his more benovelent attitude right now. I want him to be a villian again only if he's the Gray-area character he's supposed to be. Not some mass murdering maniac trying to flip the world over like in Planet X but the introspective and guilt ridden mutant he's supposed to be. Claremont is getting him back to that level and I hope Bendis can keep up the development.

[hbkabdul]

The Magneto in Excalibur is the REAL Magneto. The question that's been roaming for months is if he's being mind controlled because of his more benovelent attitude right now. I want him to be a villian again only if he's the Gray-area character he's supposed to be. Not some mass murdering maniac trying to flip the world over like in Planet X but the introspective and guilt ridden mutant he's supposed to be. Claremont is getting him back to that level and I hope Bendis can keep up the development.

is this fact? which issue of excalibur is it alluded to that he may or may not be mind controlled and if he is magneto why does it say here http://www.popcultureshock.com/viewer.php?type=reviews&id=3476&p=3 that he is unknown? im sure claremont knows who the character is and those captions are supposed to belong to the bloody pirates thats ridiculous how they could know who everyone in the room is except magneto? he is by far the greatest known mutant terrorist. and is the magneto in excalibur the same that took wanda off at the end of disassembled?

[Archer]

The "subject: unknown" thing is presumably related to Magneto saying that people no longer recognise him - off the top of my head I can't think who does and who doesn't, but some characters have recognised him while others don't.

In issue #2, Magneto says to Xavier, "You're dying to ask the question, aren't you?" (the question being how Magneto survived the Sentinel attack) and Xavier replies "What's the point? You don't have the answer." We don't yet know whether or not Xavier has the answer.

In issue #8, Magneto and Xavier joke that Xavier is controlling Magneto's mind (again, we don't know if there's any truth behind that) and Xavier later says he is preparing for what to do if Magneto goes bad again.

I *think* the Magneto who rescued Wanda in Avengers was wearing the Xorneto costume (which Excalibur-Magneto had never even seen before), but when he arrived with her in Excalibur, he was in his old-school bad guy costume (which he has not worn at any other time in Excalibur).



Soooo . . .

While so far it seems that Xorneto had nothing to do with Magneto at all, and Magneto has been hanging around on Genosha minding his own business, there are various open questions about it all. In other words, we don't know for sure.

[hbkabdul]

While so far it seems that Xorneto had nothing to do with Magneto at all, and Magneto has been hanging around on Genosha minding his own business, there are various open questions about it all. In other words, we don't know for sure.

you just gave my brain a cramp trying to understand this mess that Marvel created with Magneto. How can anyone not recognize Magneto but they know who Calisto, "Wicked" and the rest of those lame characters Claremont created. Maybe instead of trying to find answers we should just blame all this on crappy editorial work from marvel as usual.

[Archer]

Maybe instead of trying to find answers we should just blame all this on crappy editorial work from marvel as usual.

Heh, I'd agree with you, except Claremont's made a point of drawing attention to it. So presumably there's an actual reason somewhere.

[Catalyst]

The "subject: unknown" thing is presumably related to Magneto saying that people no longer recognise him - off the top of my head I can't think who does and who doesn't, but some characters have recognised him while others don't.

In issue #2, Magneto says to Xavier, "You're dying to ask the question, aren't you?" (the question being how Magneto survived the Sentinel attack) and Xavier replies "What's the point? You don't have the answer." We don't yet know whether or not Xavier has the answer.

In issue #8, Magneto and Xavier joke that Xavier is controlling Magneto's mind (again, we don't know if there's any truth behind that) and Xavier later says he is preparing for what to do if Magneto goes bad again.

I *think* the Magneto who rescued Wanda in Avengers was wearing the Xorneto costume (which Excalibur-Magneto had never even seen before), but when he arrived with her in Excalibur, he was in his old-school bad guy costume (which he has not worn at any other time in Excalibur).



Soooo . . .

While so far it seems that Xorneto had nothing to do with Magneto at all, and Magneto has been hanging around on Genosha minding his own business, there are various open questions about it all. In other words, we don't know for sure.


me, i'm worried about it; even w/ Claremont writing. i like Magneto. i liked him as a villain. i hated Morrison's version. he made him a stupid villain; one deserving of ridicule. i found that to be highly uncharitable. he could have saved that for a villain he, himself, created imo. and now i'm worried that this "new Magneto" is a. a figment of Xavier's imagination or b. something worse.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

is this fact? which issue of excalibur is it alluded to that he may or may not be mind controlled and if he is magneto why does it say here http://www.popcultureshock.com/viewer.php?type=reviews&id=3476&p=3 that he is unknown? im sure claremont knows who the character is and those captions are supposed to belong to the bloody pirates thats ridiculous how they could know who everyone in the room is except magneto? he is by far the greatest known mutant terrorist. and is the magneto in excalibur the same that took wanda off at the end of disassembled?

How is this mutant in Excalibur creating wormholes, force fields, manipulating magnetism with such skill, and showing the obvious memories of Magnus if he's not the real deal? I know many are upset with the Morrison recton but it was necessary. Magneto's character didn't deserve the abuse he got in New X-Men #150 but I ASSURE you it's Magneto. Magneto is NOT dead and won't ever really be dead. It's not going to happen. I'm sorry.

As for the pirates not recognizing Magneto? Who ARE these pirates? They have no credibility and the Dark Beast hasn't even ran into Magneto yet. Now there's a possibility that Magneto is being *mind controlled* which would be a big JOKE but that's better than him not being the real Erik Lehnsherr. The Avengers, FF, Dr. Strange, and various X-Men SURELY recognized Magnus in Avengers #503. Just another vestiage of proof.

[hbkabdul]

How is this mutant in Excalibur creating wormholes, force fields, manipulating magnetism with such skill, and showing the obvious memories of Magnus if he's not the real deal? I know many are upset with the Morrison recton but it was necessary. Magneto's character didn't deserve the abuse he got in New X-Men #150 but I ASSURE you it's Magneto. Magneto is NOT dead and won't ever really be dead. It's not going to happen. I'm sorry.

As for the pirates not recognizing Magneto? Who ARE these pirates? They have no credibility and the Dark Beast hasn't even ran into Magneto yet. Now there's a possibility that Magneto is being *mind controlled* which would be a big JOKE but that's better than him not being the real Erik Lehnsherr. The Avengers, FF, Dr. Strange, and various X-Men SURELY recognized Magnus in Avengers #503. Just another vestiage of proof.

Didn't Joseph possess and show all the powers listed above? Same with Xorneto and on what word do you have that this is the real Magneto? You still haven't answered my question on why it says unknown your just trying to rationalize on what you THINK it might be. I could care less of Mags is dead im just trying to figure out why it says unknown over his head as opposed to everyone else being named and listed by the pirates. You say they have no credibility but yet this is the man who ruled Genosha the island they are on its like someone from the another country coming to the US to take it over and not recognizing GW Bush. Same goes with Dark Beast how could he not recognize Magneto the leader of a rebellion in the AOA i mean he clearly recognized him in AOA: Omega. What various X-men were at the end of Avengers 503? The only X-man ever that was there was Beast. Yea i know everyone recognized Magneto despite the fact he was wearing his Xorneto outfit which isn't the same outfit that Magneto wears but belongs to Xorneto i never argued that.

[Catalyst]

Didn't Joseph possess and show all the powers listed above? Same with Xorneto and on what word do you have that this is the real Magneto? You still haven't answered my question on why it says unknown your just trying to rationalize on what you THINK it might be. I could care less of Mags is dead im just trying to figure out why it says unknown over his head as opposed to everyone else being named and listed by the pirates. You say they have no credibility but yet this is the man who ruled Genosha the island they are on its like someone from the another country coming to the US to take it over and not recognizing GW Bush. Same goes with Dark Beast how could he not recognize Magneto the leader of a rebellion in the AOA i mean he clearly recognized him in AOA: Omega. What various X-men were at the end of Avengers 503? The only X-man ever that was there was Beast. Yea i know everyone recognized Magneto despite the fact he was wearing his Xorneto outfit which isn't the same outfit that Magneto wears but belongs to Xorneto i never argued that.


why does it say "unknown" on his head? perhaps Xavier is blocking his identity w/ his psi powers. it would explain why the Avengers recognized him. he was out of Xavier's sphere of influence. and here's a question for you; if it isn't Magneto, why is Xavier reacting to him as if he were and talking about Magneto not realizing just how powerful he could be?

[JBeckett]

The Magneto in Excalibur is the REAL Magneto. The question that's been roaming for months is if he's being mind controlled because of his more benovelent attitude right now. I want him to be a villian again only if he's the Gray-area character he's supposed to be. Not some mass murdering maniac trying to flip the world over like in Planet X but the introspective and guilt ridden mutant he's supposed to be. Claremont is getting him back to that level and I hope Bendis can keep up the development.

Thanks! I'm a Knew-bee here on the boards and am LOVING it!

[hbkabdul]

why does it say "unknown" on his head? perhaps Xavier is blocking his identity w/ his psi powers. it would explain why the Avengers recognized him. he was out of Xavier's sphere of influence. and here's a question for you; if it isn't Magneto, why is Xavier reacting to him as if he were and talking about Magneto not realizing just how powerful he could be?


Didn't Xavier treat Joseph the same exact way he thought he was Magneto what about that? Didn't he treat Xorneto as Magneto as well when he was just an imposter? Why the devil would Xavier put a block over Magneto's head thats just plain ridiculous. What would it matter if those pirates knew he was Magneto or not why not just put a block over everyone who has been captured why the need to single just Magneto? Besides as that retarded pirate says the "biologicals have had their power neutralized" how could Xavier exert any kind of psi power when they are OFF? He cant block anyones mind if he doesnt have his powers going and any mental blocks would have ceased as well.

[Archer]

Oh, and it's worth noting that the Excalibur Magneto said, of the Sentinel attack, "I was the only one to wake up." Wake up. So presumably he wasn't conscious throughout. Which means it's possible something was done to him when he was out.

[hbkabdul]

Oh, and it's worth noting that the Excalibur Magneto said, of the Sentinel attack, "I was the only one to wake up." Wake up. So presumably he wasn't conscious throughout. Which means it's possible something was done to him when he was out.

maybe dr light anal raped him and Xavier had to block that outta his memory. that would explain alot...........

[Catalyst]

Didn't Xavier treat Joseph the same exact way he thought he was Magneto what about that?

no. he didn't tell Joseph that he was mind-controlling him; even as a joke.

Didn't he treat Xorneto as Magneto as well when he was just an imposter?

no. he didn't suggest that he was mind-controlling Xorn either.

Why the devil would Xavier put a block over Magneto's head thats just plain ridiculous.

why would he erase his mind and leave him a vegetable? why would he tamper w/ his genetic structure after he's been regressed to infancy? why would he be treating him (his old friend) as if he were Magneto if he weren't?


What would it matter if those pirates knew he was Magneto or not why not just put a block over everyone who has been captured why the need to single just Magneto?

because he symbolizes something to the people of Genosha. Unus and his crew built a statue in his honor.


[QUOTE=hbkabdul] Besides as that retarded pirate says the "biologicals have had their power neutralized" how could Xavier exert any kind of psi power when they are OFF? He cant block anyones mind if he doesnt have his powers going and any mental blocks would have ceased as well.

and around that time, Mags started having flashbacks and started worrying about his daughter. and a mental block can be set up to only work when someone tries to think about, say, vengeance. Xavier's mind power wouldn't have to be operable. and since you called the pirate 'retarded,' what makes you think he knew what he was talking about? what makes you think that Xavier isn't playing them all like chess pieces? he's waiting to see who the big threat to Genosha is. he had to play along w/ buccaneer boy. and Magneto might have a game of his own going, as well. remember the "told you he'd say that" comment? that happened a little before Mags took off to retrieve his daughter; using a wormhole power we hadn't seen before. in the past, Magneto's high level of bioelectricity has been linked to both his madness and his resistance to psionics. maybe Xavier has been limiting the use of his powers for this reason.

[hbkabdul]

no. he didn't tell Joseph that he was mind-controlling him; even as a joke. no. he didn't suggest that he was mind-controlling Xorn either. why would he erase his mind and leave him a vegetable? why would he tamper w/ his genetic structure after he's been regressed to infancy? why would he be treating him (his old friend) as if he were Magneto if he weren't?
and around that time, Mags started having flashbacks and started worrying about his daughter. and a mental block can be set up to only work when someone tries to think about, say, vengeance. Xavier's mind power wouldn't have to be operable. and since you called the pirate 'retarded,' what makes you think he knew what he was talking about? what makes you think that Xavier isn't playing them all like chess pieces? he's waiting to see who the big threat to Genosha is. he had to play along w/ buccaneer boy. and Magneto might have a game of his own going, as well. remember the "told you he'd say that" comment? that happened a little before Mags took off to retrieve his daughter; using a wormhole power we hadn't seen before. in the past, Magneto's high level of bioelectricity has been linked to both his madness and his resistance to psionics. maybe Xavier has been limiting the use of his powers for this reason.


man when did i ever say anything about Xavier mind controlling Jospeh or Xorneto. You brought up the point that Magneto in Excalibur has his trademark powers but Joseph and Xorneto had those same powers and were both treated as Magneto by Xavier thats what i was saying. WHat is all this other stuff thats being brought up all i asked was why Magneto is captioned Unknown and im getting a bunch of superflous answers and the only reason i called the pirate retarded because the idea of pirates as villians trying to loot and plunder Genosha is a lil goofy to me. I dont care if its the real magneto or not im just wondering why it says unknown above his head and im getting answers to questions i didnt ask.

[Catalyst]

man when did i ever say anything about Xavier mind controlling Jospeh or Xorneto. You brought up the point that Magneto in Excalibur has his trademark powers but Joseph and Xorneto had those same powers and were both treated as Magneto by Xavier thats what i was saying. WHat is all this other stuff thats being brought up all i asked was why Magneto is captioned Unknown and im getting a bunch of superflous answers and the only reason i called the pirate retarded because the idea of pirates as villians trying to loot and plunder Genosha is a lil goofy to me. I dont care if its the real magneto or not im just wondering why it says unknown above his head and im getting answers to questions i didnt ask.


yeah, but how are we going to answer you if the story isn't over yet? and Joseph doesn't have a body after the magneto war nor memories of Anya or his children. and if you think the pirate is silly, you must really hate the Starjammers.

[Sharcque]

The Magneto in Excalibur is the real Magneto, and he's also the one that took Wanda with him in Disassembled. If it was a different one, then why is Wanda with him in Excalibur now (in upcoming issues)?

Personally, I'm pissed about the whole Xorn thing. Bringing back Magneto is just their way of trying to erase everything that Grant Morrison did b/c they're pissed that he went to DC.

[Catalyst]

The Magneto in Excalibur is the real Magneto, and he's also the one that took Wanda with him in Disassembled. If it was a different one, then why is Wanda with him in Excalibur now (in upcoming issues)?

Personally, I'm pissed about the whole Xorn thing. Bringing back Magneto is just their way of trying to erase everything that Grant Morrison did b/c they're pissed that he went to DC.


i'm not really a Grant Morrison fan but i did like Marvel Boy. if they could incorporate that half-kree/half-cockroach kid into the Marvel Proper (or MAX), i'd be quite happy.

[Ugoff]

i'm not really a Grant Morrison fan but i did like Marvel Boy. if they could incorporate that half-kree/half-cockroach kid into the Marvel Proper (or MAX), i'd be quite happy.


I totally agree with that! Marvel Boy rocked!

[hbkabdul]

LITG reports that House of M will scale back on the mutant population. I wonder what will this mean for District X a series based on the premise of an extreme mutant population.

[X-Men Forever]

maybe dr light anal raped him and Xavier had to block that outta his memory. that would explain alot...........

Damn that Doctor Light and his anal rape fetishes. He needs to keep the anal rape exclusive to DC characters, and leave Marvels characters alone. :D

[Zero Hunter]

The Magneto in Excalibur is the real Magneto, and he's also the one that took Wanda with him in Disassembled. If it was a different one, then why is Wanda with him in Excalibur now (in upcoming issues)?

Personally, I'm pissed about the whole Xorn thing. Bringing back Magneto is just their way of trying to erase everything that Grant Morrison did b/c they're pissed that he went to DC.

They aren't pissed he went to DC. They just decided like most of the rest of us that Morrisons last two story arcs were pretty much crap, and his Magneto as a drugged out mass murdering pscho wasn't the best use for the character.

[Jake V]

They were pissed about him moving to DC. There were some well-publisized fights between Quesada and Morrison at conventions, and phone conversations with him and Jemas that amounted to Jemas just yelling for 20 minutes.

They were plenty pissed about Morrison moving to DC.

Planet X and Here Comes Tomorrow were written before his exclusive deal with DC happened.

So, there goes your entire argument.

[Ivan Isaacs]

They were pissed about him moving to DC. There were some well-publisized fights between Quesada and Morrison at conventions,

That I knew so I second that.
Quesada: "You owe me!"
Morrison: "*insert various insults here*"

and phone conversations with him and Jemas that amounted to Jemas just yelling for 20 minutes.

That I didn't. Wow. :eek:

Planet X and Here Comes Tomorrow were written before his exclusive deal with DC happened.

Oh. I thought that it was some sort of "F*** you, Marvel".

[Jake V]

I got the phone conversations thing second-hand from Warren Ellis.

Planet X and HCT were both concieved from the begining of Morrison's run and outlined in his original pitch before he even got the job.

Him going exclusive to DC has NOTHING to do with it, he even had a plan layed out for the Reload, but scrapped it when DC offered him more money and the ability to do more original stuff.

[Ivan Isaacs]

Him going exclusive to DC has NOTHING to do with it, he even had a plan layed out for the Reload, but scrapped it when DC offered him more money and the ability to do more original stuff.

Oh, how right he was. He left Marvel at a perfect time.

[hbkabdul]

I got the phone conversations thing second-hand from Warren Ellis.

Planet X and HCT were both concieved from the begining of Morrison's run and outlined in his original pitch before he even got the job.

Him going exclusive to DC has NOTHING to do with it, he even had a plan layed out for the Reload, but scrapped it when DC offered him more money and the ability to do more original stuff.


any ideas what his plans for Reload were originally?

[Jake V]

I recall hearing something about allowing humans to join the school, new school uniforms that would fit in with the return to spandex, and something about blurring the lines between human and mutant, and questioning what it meant to be homo superior.

[Tommy]

Does house of M stand for the House of Magento?

[Jake V]

Still unknown.

Could be "house of Magneto"

"House of Mutants"

"House of Maximoff"

"House of Marvel"

could be a lot of things.

[Ryan K]

House of Money.

[Captain Blitz]

House of Mutants
House of Magneto

[Tommy]

House of Morons
House of Movies
House of MMMMMM Cookies
House of Magic
House of Marble
House of Memories

[Jake V]

House of Monkeys

House of Marsupials

or my favorite, House of Morrison.

[protege]

House of marmalade.

[hbkabdul]

maybe the M stands for the Micheal as in Brian Micheal Bendis since he seems to be running marvel these days anyway

[hbkabdul]

"At the Emerald City ComiCon, New Avengers writer Brian Michael Bendis revealed more information about the much anticipated Marvel event, House of M. "It's just about the damn biggest thing I've ever written. All the Marvel writers are involved and writing the stories they want to write." Fans have been speculating for several months that House of M is going to pick up where the “Chaos” storyline in Avengers #503 left off, but Bendis said not to believe what you read online.

It's a very big story and at its basis, it starts with Astonishing X-Men and New Avengers, but grows to include the entire Marvel Universe. "When we're done at the end, we don't put it back together the way we found it." Joss Whedon is not directly writing any part of the crossover, but he did help in planning it. He teased, "The enemy of the X-Men and the enemy of the Avengers is now the same person...."

The format of the core event is an 8-issue biweekly mini-series, written by Bendis, drawn by Olivier Copiel, and colored by Frank D'Armata, who Bendis who says is a “great storyteller and an amazing colorist.” The official series announcement is coming up in the June "Previews." "Every other week is going to be like a giant bomb is dropped on the Marvel Universe."
credit http://www.comicon.com/pulse

the one enemy could it be magneto perhaps? or would that be too obvious? from the sounds of it it seems like they are going to indeed reshape the MU

[aelio]

o.k. Before the spittle starts flying, let me state that I don't hate Bendis. I am currently enjoying New Avengers, and I only felt a little dissappointed in Chaos. I could handle the end of The Avengers IF it was less of a quickie non-event.

Now

That having been said. I literally cringed when I read Bendis' comment about "dropping a bomb in every issue." That, to me, reeks of Chaos level shock-value, which was my least favorite thing about that arch. We also know, from Millar, that Marvel editorial is open to major shake ups as far as mutants are concerned; therefore, given all of the above, I fear that House of M could end up in essence being "x-verse dissassembled. I hope not as I am currently looking forward to House of M for these reasons:
1. Mags and the Maximoffs have always been favorites of mine.
2. After decades of tight continuity, post bankruptcy Marvel desperately needs its own Crisis to fix the problems, and by "fix" I don't mean retconning everything Morrison and Austen have done.
3. Mags and the Maximoffs all three have very short fuses, and it looks like the lid is going to blow right off of this mother.
4. Hopefully, finally, we can get some sort of explanation for Xorneto, and the new, kinder, gentler, Magneto. wtf was the deal with that Xorneto anyway?

[Expletive Deleted]

wtf was the deal with that Xorneto anyway?They haven't really explained the details of the post-Morrison retcon, beyond simply saying in EXCALIBUR that the Magneto from "Planet X" wasn't really Magneto.

I've been doing my level best to ignore the whole thing.

[aelio]

It aggravates the hell out of me b/c I've read planet X and all of this current Excalibur series, and I still am entirely confused. If Xorn's power is a healing power how does he also imitate Mags. Then when this new "brother of Xorn" shows up in Austen's book...Remember the good old spider clone days when Marvel made sense.

[thetechnocrat]

Hmmm, the UFF is going to find the regular Marvel U later this year?
Does anyone have the feeling this may be a clash of alternate universes?
Ultimate and 616 in a battle to save both realities wouldn't be too bad. I liked the old JLA/JSA crossovers.

[richjb77]

OK heres some new news finally on House of M courtesy lying in the gutters which im sure youve all read.

There are already rumours groaning about his next big project, "House Of M," the rival to DC's Crisis II. In which, Lying In The Gutters is told that Magneto, fearing that Emma Frost will have his dear Scarlet Witch murdered, has her daughter remake the Marvel Universe in his ideal "image" - mutants as homo superior exerting their control over the homo sapiens. Supposed to run for a couple of months, before Wolverine, of course, realizes things are not as they should be, and tips the other key characters, Cap, Spider-Man, DD, etc to make things right. Very Age-Of_Apocalypsy. Marvel's using the stunt to fix any and all continuity gaffes through their history as well. Their version of Alan Moore's "Fluke" from the Twilight proposal.

hmmm sound like it might be a good series lets hope Bendis that wrote Secret War and New Avengers is writing this and not the Bendis that wrote Avengers Disassembled. anybody got any thoughts?

Hopefully they can fix that stupid Gwen Stacy is a slut storyline from Spider-man while they are correcting the universe

[streator]

i see this event killing off some x characters and doing little else.
the m stands for magneto and in another sense mutant. expect characters like feral or whoever to die. also, some "big name" mutant will as well. best guess=beast. avengers connection and all.

[josh straightedge]

If they are going to clean house on the muties, that's ok. Too many of them.

Also sounds like they are making one villain into the ultimate Marvel villain, which isn't bad either.

I liked "Chaos" overall and this actually sounds like a really good Marvel crossover.

They need to explain Magneto/Xorn.

[hbkabdul]

That having been said. I literally cringed when I read Bendis' comment about "dropping a bomb in every issue." That, to me, reeks of Chaos level shock-value, which was my least favorite thing about that arch. We also know, from Millar, that Marvel editorial is open to major shake ups as far as mutants are concerned; therefore, given all of the above, I fear that House of M could end up in essence being "x-verse dissassembled.

yea these big bombs they plan to drop i hope its not week after week of mass deaths of characters. I can deal with the mutant population being trimmed down because it makes more sense to have them as an isolated "community" but lately everybody and their cousin is a mutant. but knowing Bendis it could mean in mass deaths left and right and from what lying in the gutters reported it sounds like an AOA type deal with the Universe in shambles and Bendis's cryptic line about not leaving everything as they found it sounds like pure Crisis style remaking of the MU

[hbkabdul]

I don't know whether this is a joke or if it should be taken with a grain of salt. But over at newsarama during Bendis and Quesadas talk with Hawkeye Bendis makes the remark about bringing someone back from the dead after sending it a script for House of M.

[Charagon]

If there is a god Bendis will see fit to write away the last several months of Spider-Man comics, down to Sin's Past, the events of Avengers Disassembled, and all of Marvel Knights Spider-Man.

[Faded]

Another cheap trick to me if its supposed to clean up the X-Universe by killing off mass mutants who don't bring in the dough like Wolverine (who should be the first to go if they are getting rid of mutants.)

[Faded]

And what's wrong with having a lot of mutants? At least there are more options with more characters to use...

[Heedra]

If there is a god Bendis will see fit to write away the last several months of Spider-Man comics, down to Sin's Past, the events of Avengers Disassembled, and all of Marvel Knights Spider-Man.


i don't know. i think his New Avengers would be well recieved if he did do that but it'd still be hard to explain why there's a new team.

[roguestorm]

i cant wait for house of m! i just hope it isn't over hyped garbage like millars wolverine run.

[Scarlet Pumpernickle]

i have a question? is it possible that the two twin brothers xorn are scarlet witches cause didnt she create two twin boys? i don't know much about scarlet witch from the avengers or the chaos story line.

[hbkabdul]

i have a question? is it possible that the two twin brothers xorn are scarlet witches cause didnt she create two twin boys? i don't know much about scarlet witch from the avengers or the chaos story line.


well i myself was thinking that instead of Scarlett Witch creating the 2 Xorns that she was responsible for the second Magneto who took over Manhattan

[hbkabdul]

Anyone else see the House of M preview in Wizard? Didn't seem like much and it kinda sucks they are only using Whedon's X-Team as opposed to mixing and matching the various X-men. Also I think we might not have to worry about the whole culling of the mutant population during Quesadarama Bendis is quoted as saying that he heard the rumor and thought it was stupid.

[Dennis K]

lets hope Bendis that wrote Secret War and New Avengers is writing this and not the Bendis that wrote Avengers Disassembled. anybody got any thoughts?

My thoughts? I liked Avengers Disassembled, and if this is half as good I'll probably read it.

[cda031076]

house of m is supposed to involve the MU,and that is the MU,people...the stopry just starts with those people and then it goes to the marvel universe and changes sh*t somehow.

who knows

[jade_nova]

Anyone else see the House of M preview in Wizard? Didn't seem like much and it kinda sucks they are only using Whedon's X-Team as opposed to mixing and matching the various X-men. Also I think we might not have to worry about the whole culling of the mutant population during Quesadarama Bendis is quoted as saying that he heard the rumor and thought it was stupid.

The preview was alright. I wasn't thrilled by the artwork. I loved Warbird's comment about being called to The Tower.

[hbkabdul]

Just read the Wier/Defillips interview at comicon at it seems that House of M will even be reaching out to New X-men of all things. Could House of M be an even bigger crossover than Onslaught?

[crazybrd1]

Just need one thing clarify here. Is this going to be an actual mini series or will this take place in a different issue of each marvel titel.

[Shadow Crawler]

Excalibur #13 and #14 will lead into House of M. Beyond that, I have no idea. I'm sure there will be mention of it a bit in many different titles, and I'd even bet that the Avengers will tie-in, since it seems to be a tie-in with every Marvel event. =/

[hbkabdul]

Just need one thing clarify here. Is this going to be an actual mini series or will this take place in a different issue of each marvel titel.

Yea its going to get its own mini series im not certain but i think itll be launching bi weekly i could be wrong on the shipping but the mini is confirmed

[Shadow Crawler]

Yeah, it's going to be bi-weekly.

[mattbib]

*eyes bulge*

Too many House of M threads!!!

[Will.S]

*eyes bulge*

Too many House of M threads!!!
Goes to show's how all encompassing it is....even on message boards ;)

[cda031076]

from nesarama.com Honestly, some of that was a result of us listening to the fans and the retailers too much, the vocal ones, in terms of what they said they wanted in crossovers,” Brevoort said. “’We don’t want to be forced to buy everything in order to follow this story!’ So we tried to make each of the Disassembled tie-in books totally modular, and that led to some awkward storytelling in places. With House of M, we’re going to follow our own hearts and minds a bit more, and not worry about what the vocal fans are saying beforehand—if Disassembled is any indication, they’ll be saying something else by the time it’s underway. In House of M, we’ve got a whole world to explore, so we’ll be doing some of that exploration elsewhere.”

[Lavteria]

from nesarama.com Honestly, some of that was a result of us listening to the fans and the retailers too much, the vocal ones, in terms of what they said they wanted in crossovers,” Brevoort said. “’We don’t want to be forced to buy everything in order to follow this story!’ So we tried to make each of the Disassembled tie-in books totally modular, and that led to some awkward storytelling in places. With House of M, we’re going to follow our own hearts and minds a bit more, and not worry about what the vocal fans are saying beforehand—if Disassembled is any indication, they’ll be saying something else by the time it’s underway. In House of M, we’ve got a whole world to explore, so we’ll be doing some of that exploration elsewhere.”

AKA, you will have to buy a lot of comics to follow the story and we will kill off alot of people and piss everyone off.

[Brady]

I think Crisis on Infinite Earths - Marvel style is a horrible concept and a horrible idea. I think Bendis is a fairly good writer, but really get sick of the ammount of retconning that goes on in comics these days.

How about, instead of reverting to big retcon events to "fix" continuity, marvel and DC both just avoid f*cking it all up in the first place? :p

[hbkabdul]

stolen pics from newsarama this one featuring hulk made up like some kind of african warrior especially with the staff and beside him the new scorpion they say?

http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/HouseofM/sketchbook/INCHULK83_1024.jpg

heres one featuring the FF with Doom as the team leader

http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/HouseofM/sketchbook/HOMFF-Cover1_150.jpg

and Spiderman with Rhino in a hawaiin style shirt to boot

http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/HouseofM/sketchbook/SktchHoM.jpg

[cable guy]

Goes to show's how all encompassing it is....even on message boards ;)

I guess like or dislike it, you can feel the buzz.