View Full Version : Is a new Batman animated series in the works?
Green Lantern wannabe
01-07-2011, 06:41 PM
I see something on the web about that, but no concrete details. Does anyone know?
There's supposed to be a cgi show or something in the works.
Mr. Holmes
01-07-2011, 06:53 PM
There are no details anounced. I'm not a fan of the idea of a CGI cartoon series, but I'll remain open minded, since I've enjoyed all the Batman cartoons since TAS (yes even The Batman).
The Zapper
01-07-2011, 06:54 PM
I'm not sold on the CGI part, but I'm going to take a wait and see approach. CGI has gotten a lot better in the last few years.
DarkKnghtJared
01-07-2011, 06:54 PM
All that we know is that the people doing Brave and the Bold are involved (though they said it would have a different tone), and that it's going to be done in CGI.
Green Lantern wannabe
01-07-2011, 06:59 PM
Is CGI the same as computer animation?
I like TAS but not The Batman.
zami77
01-07-2011, 07:00 PM
If they can get graphics equivalent to the arkham asylum videogame, I'd be game for that. Also, does anyone besides me NOT hate the batman (the show)?
Fenaris
01-07-2011, 07:19 PM
Also, does anyone besides me NOT hate the batman (the show)?
Tbh I love every cartoon series that have been made about Batman, from Batman TAS to The Batman and Batman: The brave and the bold...I just wish they would make more of The Batman shows, it was really good.
On topic: I really hope that they release a new Batman show, the other one's have come to a stop and I want to see something happen :)
DarkKnghtJared
01-07-2011, 07:26 PM
Is CGI the same as computer animation?
I like TAS but not The Batman.
Yeah--though I think it's going to be less like Arkham Asylum, and more like the Pixar movies or the current Star Wars: The Clone Wars cartoon.
Vakanai
01-07-2011, 07:30 PM
A superhero cgi cartoon?
Eh, I like Iron Man Armored Adventures, but it'd probably be wrong for Batman. But hell, I'll give it a go.
And I liked The Batman.
zami77
01-07-2011, 07:31 PM
Yeah--though I think it's going to be less like Arkham Asylum, and more like the Pixar movies or the current Star Wars: The Clone Wars cartoon.
bleh, We already have a somewhat light hearted cartoon of batman, It'd be nice for a semi-dark one. IMO, that cartoony 3-d wont work well with batman (although i may be wrong, who knows.)
The Zapper
01-07-2011, 07:57 PM
I actually think the Clone Wars are good looking CGI cartoons. I wouldn't mind a style similar to that.
cosmicjoke
01-07-2011, 08:30 PM
CGI could work wonderfully for Batman if it's meant to be dark and if they employ a more realistic look and less of a cartoonish, exaggerated look. Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlWY0dD1FK4
Green Lantern wannabe
01-07-2011, 08:32 PM
I just saw a trailer of Batman: Arkham Asylum on Youtube, and the graphics seem to be FAR superior to BTAS.
Am I wrong?
dreyga2000
01-07-2011, 08:52 PM
Tbh I love every cartoon series that have been made about Batman, from Batman TAS to The Batman and Batman: The brave and the bold...I just wish they would make more of The Batman shows, it was really good.
On topic: I really hope that they release a new Batman show, the other one's have come to a stop and I want to see something happen :)
I love The Batman... I honestly think folks are too close minded and stuck in their ways to truly enjoy it's awesomeness...
Cavaleiro das Trevas
01-07-2011, 09:11 PM
A Batman CGI cartoon sounds awesome to me...
Green Lantern wannabe
01-07-2011, 09:21 PM
I'm doing a brief search, and, if the CGI is like the Clone Wars or Toy Story, then forget it. If, however, the CGI is like Batman: Arkham Asylum, then I'd say it was superior to anything in existence.
BTW, is Starcraft drawn in traditional animation or CGI? I've been told that the characters (soldiers, tanks, and so on) are drawn in traditional style, and they're converted into JPEG's. Does anyone know better?
Jay Y
01-07-2011, 10:12 PM
As others have said, No details have been released other than the fact that it'll be CGI. Look at the Arkham City teaser trailer. Obviously it won't be that high quality, but take a minute to think how awesome that would be. A comic accurate series with those graphics. One can dream...
Anyway, I believe some (if not all) of Gotham Knight was CGI. It'll probably be similar to the Working Through Pain and Deadshot stories, graphically.
Alejandro
01-07-2011, 10:46 PM
A superhero cgi cartoon?
Eh, I like Iron Man Armored Adventures, but it'd probably be wrong for Batman. But hell, I'll give it a go.
And I liked The Batman.
I love The Batman... I honestly think folks are too close minded and stuck in their ways to truly enjoy it's awesomeness...
Check me in on that list of people who appreacite The Batman.
I actually like it many times over Brave and the bold, but I think both were good for Batman and DC and had different overall objectives (without ceasing to aknowledge both ultimate goal is to make more of the green stuff :wink:)
Ben D
01-07-2011, 10:55 PM
CGI could be good, could be bad. Still Batman in any media these days is good.
If they can get graphics equivalent to the arkham asylum videogame, I'd be game for that. Also, does anyone besides me NOT hate the batman (the show)?
I don't hate it, but I'm not sad to say that it's not one of the better outside media interpretations of batman.
Green Lantern wannabe
01-07-2011, 10:58 PM
Gotham Knights wasn't that good. But the Arkham Asylum video game looks really good. If that's the CGI of the future, then I'd be all for it.
Cavaleiro das Trevas
01-07-2011, 11:11 PM
Check me in on that list of people who appreacite The Batman.
I actually like it many times over Brave and the bold, but I think both were good for Batman and DC and had different overall objectives (without ceasing to aknowledge both ultimate goal is to make more of the green stuff :wink:)
Same here.
Alejandro
01-07-2011, 11:16 PM
Same here.
Ah! keen soul :biggrin:
Green Lantern wannabe
01-07-2011, 11:19 PM
So, bottom line, is there something in the works, CGI or otherwise? Any concrete news?
Cavaleiro das Trevas
01-07-2011, 11:19 PM
Ah! keen soul :biggrin:
No doubt about it.:D
I actually have some fond memories of that show.
Green Lantern wannabe
01-07-2011, 11:29 PM
Ah, found this earlier post. (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=332537) So a CGI series is in the works, though it may not be as good as animation.
kalorama
01-08-2011, 01:02 AM
I love The Batman... I honestly think folks are too close minded and stuck in their ways to truly enjoy it's awesomeness...
"Love" is a strong word, but I certainly enjoyed it, particularly Season 3, when Batgirl was introduced as his partner. Some of those episodes rate well against the B:TAS.
Don Yoyo
01-08-2011, 02:45 AM
I'm doing a brief search, and, if the CGI is like the Clone Wars or Toy Story, then forget it. If, however, the CGI is like Batman: Arkham Asylum, then I'd say it was superior to anything in existence.
Though that kind of CGI is generally reserved for full-feature movies and probably too complex for a series of episodes. There is also the problem that those CGIs you're talking about mostly shows action scenes, rarely civilian scenes, and I'm not really sure they can dodge the 'uncanny valley' on that one. Especially when almost all the people in the action scenes are costumed in one way or another, often hiding their face and hair.
Dick/babs
01-08-2011, 03:23 AM
I hope Bruce Tim does have nothing do with this project :redface:
Rahul
01-08-2011, 03:37 AM
I read somewhere...might be this board only...that the probable plot of the series is ripped off from Final Crisis, that Batman is transported to many dimensions and alternate pasts and futures, and becomes a Batman of that dimension or timeline, complete with adapted costumes (pirate, cowboy, noir, cop etc).
I sincerely hope thats not the case, because I could use a slightly more down to earth Batman after the craziness of Brave and the Bold(And I like Brave and the Bold).
Fenaris
01-08-2011, 07:18 AM
I hope Bruce Tim does have nothing do with this project :redface:
Hopes up for Kevin Conroy!
Green Lantern wannabe
01-08-2011, 07:51 AM
I stopped watching The Batman after a few episodes, so I don't know if the later ones were as good as BTAS.
What's wrong with Bruce Timm? He was an integral part of BTAS.
GamerSlyRatchet
01-08-2011, 10:18 AM
I read somewhere...might be this board only...that the probable plot of the series is ripped off from Final Crisis, that Batman is transported to many dimensions and alternate pasts and futures, and becomes a Batman of that dimension or timeline, complete with adapted costumes (pirate, cowboy, noir, cop etc).
I sincerely hope thats not the case, because I could use a slightly more down to earth Batman after the craziness of Brave and the Bold(And I like Brave and the Bold).
I think that was proven to be false.
What's wrong with Bruce Timm? He was an integral part of BTAS.
And part of DC's animation department for that matter.
Dick/babs
01-08-2011, 10:48 AM
I stopped watching The Batman after a few episodes, so I don't know if the later ones were as good as BTAS.
What's wrong with Bruce Timm? He was an integral part of BTAS.
What's wrong with Bruce Timm he do not like Dick Grayson and that why Nightwing was Only in a few episodes of New Batman Adventures and Does not appear in the DCAU After that
DarkKnghtJared
01-08-2011, 11:01 AM
I love The Batman... I honestly think folks are too close minded and stuck in their ways to truly enjoy it's awesomeness...
I enjoyed it too--sure, it had a bit of a rocky start, and some bad episodes, but so did B:TAS--and if you don't believe me, watch "The Underdwellers" or "I've Got Batman In My Basement."
It did always confuse me, though, that when they changed Joker's look (I think it was somewhere in Season 2), they pretty much gave him his original suit...but still had no shoes.
I'm doing a brief search, and, if the CGI is like the Clone Wars or Toy Story, then forget it. If, however, the CGI is like Batman: Arkham Asylum, then I'd say it was superior to anything in existence.
The thing is, the CGI in Arkham Asylum looked that good because they had a budget that is comparable to most Hollywood summer blockbusters. They just can't afford that for television.
I read somewhere...might be this board only...that the probable plot of the series is ripped off from Final Crisis, that Batman is transported to many dimensions and alternate pasts and futures, and becomes a Batman of that dimension or timeline, complete with adapted costumes (pirate, cowboy, noir, cop etc).
I sincerely hope thats not the case, because I could use a slightly more down to earth Batman after the craziness of Brave and the Bold(And I like Brave and the Bold).
Yeah, I'd be more down for a "down-to-Earth" Batman too--hell, the guys who did B&TB proved that they could when they did Chill of the Night.
What's wrong with Bruce Timm he do not like Dick Grayson and that why Nightwing was Only in a few episodes of New Batman Adventures and Does not appear in the DCAU After that
It was because of embargos, as I recall--both Teen Titans and The Batman used Nightwing at some point, which made it impossible to do Nightwing post GK.
Green Lantern wannabe
01-08-2011, 11:05 AM
Good point about Arkham Asylum's budget. The question then is if traditional animation, with the same budget, could do as well.
DarkKnghtJared
01-08-2011, 11:10 AM
Good point about Arkham Asylum's budget. The question then is if traditional animation, with the same budget, could do as well.
The same budget as what? Arkham Asylum? Sure, Disney does it all the time--it just takes two or three years or something to that effect.
That's why all these animation companies are switching to CG--it's more cost-effective and faster to produce.
Green Lantern wannabe
01-08-2011, 11:18 AM
The same budget as what? Arkham Asylum? Sure, Disney does it all the time--it just takes two or three years or something to that effect.
That's why all these animation companies are switching to CG--it's more cost-effective and faster to produce.
CGI may be cheaper and faster, but is it better? There's some debate on that.
I haven't watched a Disney show lately, so I'm wondering which hand-drawn feature of late could equal that of Arkham Asylum.
Dick/babs
01-08-2011, 11:25 AM
I enjoyed it too--sure, it had a bit of a rocky start, and some bad episodes, but so did B:TAS--and if you don't believe me, watch "The Underdwellers" or "I've Got Batman In My Basement."
It did always confuse me, though, that when they changed Joker's look (I think it was somewhere in Season 2), they pretty much gave him his original suit...but still had no shoes.
The thing is, the CGI in Arkham Asylum looked that good because they had a budget that is comparable to most Hollywood summer blockbusters. They just can't afford that for television.
Yeah, I'd be more down for a "down-to-Earth" Batman too--hell, the guys who did B&TB proved that they could when they did Chill of the Night.
It was because of embargos, as I recall--both Teen Titans and The Batman used Nightwing at some point, which made it impossible to do Nightwing post GK.
That's one of the reasons and Bruce Timm do not like Dick Grayson and that why he did the Bruce and Barbara relationship
Free-Man
01-08-2011, 11:30 AM
Even if Bruce Timm did not like Dick, so what?
Dick's the Robin that was in Teen Titans, and much to the ire of Tim Drake fans, the Robin in Young Justice. He was the Robin used in The Batman. He and Damian were the only two Robins to be featured in Brave and the Bold so far (unless you count Bat-Mite's shout out to Jason Todd), and he's the most consistently used Robin in virtually every other form of media.
Just so long as they didn't use Bruce Timm designs, I'd have no issue with him working on the new Batman shows.
Tracer Bullet
01-08-2011, 11:44 AM
"Love" is a strong word, but I certainly enjoyed it, particularly Season 3, when Batgirl was introduced as his partner. Some of those episodes rate well against the B:TAS.
Batgirl was awesome!
I really hope the series airs on network tv, as I get tired of having to hunt for shows online that air on cable.:redface:
Moleculo
01-08-2011, 11:52 AM
I have come to really enjoy The Batman. And I'm a hard-core, old-school B:TAS/serious detective type Batman fan.
And I'm amazed anyone can dislike it after Brave and the Bold, which is utter crap, IMO.
The Beast Of Yucca Flats
01-08-2011, 12:18 PM
Even if Bruce Timm did not like Dick, so what?
but this r srs freman
Dick/babs
01-08-2011, 12:48 PM
Even if Bruce Timm did not like Dick, so what?
Dick's the Robin that was in Teen Titans, and much to the ire of Tim Drake fans, the Robin in Young Justice. He was the Robin used in The Batman. He and Damian were the only two Robins to be featured in Brave and the Bold so far (unless you count Bat-Mite's shout out to Jason Todd), and he's the most consistently used Robin in virtually every other form of media.
Just so long as they didn't use Bruce Timm designs, I'd have no issue with him working on the new Batman shows.
Dick Grayson is an important part of the batman mythology it like makeing Some one does not like Lois or Jimmy or Barry White Working on a Superman show
and the Teen Titans Cartoons was so bad I chose to imagine Robin was Tim Drake :biggrin:
Alejandro
01-08-2011, 01:06 PM
I have come to really enjoy The Batman. And I'm a hard-core, old-school B:TAS/serious detective type Batman fan.
And I'm amazed anyone can dislike it after Brave and the Bold, which is utter crap, IMO.
I like you :biggrin:
Dick Grayson is an important part of the batman mythology it like makeing Some one does not like Lois or Jimmy or Barry White Working on a Superman show
and the Teen Titans Cartoons was so bad I chose to imagine Robin was Tim Drake :biggrin:
Ouch, TTGo! Was awesome :eek: and that Robin was depicted to become Nightwing in the future... All said, the Bruce Barbara thing is the only thing that I hated with all my life of the Tim verse
Dick/babs
01-08-2011, 01:23 PM
I like you :biggrin:
Ouch, TTGo! Was awesome :eek: and that Robin was depicted to become Nightwing in the future... All said, the Bruce Barbara thing is the only thing that I hated with all my life of the Tim verse
The problem with Bruce Tim does not understand Bruce Wayne being a Playboy is Only a cover
his Version of the Bruce not only stabbed Nightwing in the back by dating Barbara he stabbed Clark in the back by dating Lois Lane
Vakanai
01-08-2011, 02:13 PM
I hope it utilizes the usual guys, Bruce Timm and all, as honestly with few exceptions their stuff has mostly been hit after hit I think. I want any Batman series to have as best as start as possible.
I also hope they skip this CG everything nonsense and stick to traditional animation, which seems to be becoming an endangered species, but eh, you can't get everything.
Theozilla
01-08-2011, 02:23 PM
I seriously doubt that Bruce Timm goes out of his way to make Dick Grayson look bad, and IMO his portrayal in B:TAS and TNBA were not bad, even if he not his favorite character (And I have never heard or read anything where he said he disliked the character of Dick Grayson). The reason for the Bruce-Barabara relationship was because they did not want to adapt everything from the comics and wished to do some new stuff. And Timm has great track record in animation in general, so I personally would want him involved in a new Batman show.
Another note I like The Batman, I think its very good, and has a couple of episodes that better than B:TAS episodes, but on average I think B:TAS is better. So The Batman is a great show just not as great as B:TAS.
Also I don't understand the hate for the Teen Titans show. I though it was very good, I loved the comedy and anime style they used. And so what if it does not directly adapt the comics. I think it was good as its own thing.
Vakanai
01-08-2011, 02:48 PM
I also liked Teen Titans.
Teen Titans Go!
Green Lantern wannabe
01-08-2011, 03:36 PM
The reason for the Bruce-Barabara relationship was because they did not want to adapt everything from the comics and wished to do some new stuff.
Fair enough, if he wanted to do something new. But I can't accept the Bruce/Barbara relationship. To me, Bruce would have been in his mid-30's when he brought Robin into the fold, and when he got his Bat-career going. Babs, on the other hand, would have been a teeny-bopper like Dick or, at most, in her first year in college - she would have been far too young for him.
Talia or Selina would have been a better love interest.
kalorama
01-08-2011, 03:44 PM
Fair enough, if he wanted to do something new. But I can't accept the Bruce/Barbara relationship. To me, Bruce would have been in his mid-30's when he brought Robin into the fold, and when he got his Bat-career going. Babs, on the other hand, would have been a teeny-bopper like Dick or, at most, in her first year in college - she would have been far too young for him.
Talia or Selina would have been a better love interest.
In both the comics and B:TAS: (A) Bruce hadn't yet hit 30 when Robin came aboard (Bruce was in his mid-20's when he first became Batman and Robin came along in his 3rd year in the suit) and (B) Barbara was either in (B:TAS) or just out of (comics) college when she became Batgirl.
Don Yoyo
01-08-2011, 04:26 PM
Talia or Selina would have been a better love interest.
About that, I wonder if Adam Beechen (writer of the Batman Beyond ongoing) is going to expand on that comment from 'Epilogue' that hinted at an involvement of Selina in the Bat-family at some point.
Green Lantern wannabe
01-08-2011, 04:36 PM
In both the comics and B:TAS: (A) Bruce hadn't yet hit 30 when Robin came aboard (Bruce was in his mid-20's when he first became Batman and Robin came along in his 3rd year in the suit) and (B) Barbara was either in (B:TAS) or just out of (comics) college when she became Batgirl.
I've always assumed Batman would be in his mid-30's when he got going, as I've said, so maybe I'm not up on the comics. But I think my problem is one of having BatMAN (older word) going out with BatGIRL (younger word).
Alejandro
01-08-2011, 05:29 PM
Also I don't understand the hate for the Teen Titans show. I though it was very good, I loved the comedy and anime style they used. And so what if it does not directly adapt the comics. I think it was good as its own thing.
I also liked Teen Titans.
Teen Titans Go!
It rocked! :D I became adicted to it xD
Now, in whatt comes to Batman and batgirl. My real problem is this: HOw would you feel if your adoptive father dates your ex-love interest?
I mean Bruce wasnt exactly role model Parent, but thats really effing wrong and thats it. He would have never done that.
But yeah, other than that, he did a GREAT work on my opinion :smile:
cosmicjoke
01-08-2011, 05:47 PM
CGI may be cheaper and faster, but is it better? There's some debate on that.
I haven't watched a Disney show lately, so I'm wondering which hand-drawn feature of late could equal that of Arkham Asylum.
Part of the major problem with CGI animation is, because it's cheaper and so much faster, they churn them out at a ridiculously quick rate, and subsequently, put no real effort in to developing good stories. All of these CGI films lately really suck because there's no substance there, no real effort, and they keep using the same, tired plots and formulas.
Really top line hand drawn animation is always superior, in my opinion, because of the dedication and talent it involves.
But I think if they did a CGI Batman film with dark, realistic animation like that trailer I posted, it could be fantastic. They could do a film like that, but a whole series, it's doubtful they have the budget.
kalorama
01-08-2011, 07:25 PM
I've always assumed Batman would be in his mid-30's when he got going, as I've said, so maybe I'm not up on the comics. But I think my problem is one of having BatMAN (older word) going out with BatGIRL (younger word).
Well, it wasn't the words going out, it was the people. And since whatever relationship Bruce and Babs had started after Babs graduated from college, she was a woman, regardless of what name she went by.
Parch
01-08-2011, 07:53 PM
I read somewhere that Clone Wars has a fairly high budget so it's possible a Batman project could get the same treatment, but good looking doesn't trump good writing so it's wait and see.
There's some new CGI cartoons coming out for GI Joe and The Transformers as well. I'm curious about them too.
I dont CGI at all..... even if it is Batman.
Mr. Holmes
01-09-2011, 11:45 AM
I always felt Dick was never done justice in TAS. As Robin, there was a subtle Burt-Ward feel to him, in that he was a bit of a goober. He was also frequently a damsel in distress for Batman to save.
Blue Blazes
01-10-2011, 07:44 AM
I love The Batman... I honestly think folks are too close minded and stuck in their ways to truly enjoy it's awesomeness...
i like The Batman too. Took me a few episodes to really like the animation. But i think its a really well done series.
Sean Walsh
01-10-2011, 08:27 AM
I always felt Dick was never done justice in TAS. As Robin, there was a subtle Burt-Ward feel to him, in that he was a bit of a goober. He was also frequently a damsel in distress for Batman to save.
And they used him a LOT less when he was upgraded to Nightwing, too...
Aziz Abbasi
01-10-2011, 08:55 AM
With all the animated DTVs they work on they can still manage a new Batman series? I'm in
I loved them all since TAS was released
Green Lantern wannabe
01-10-2011, 09:14 AM
With all the animated DTVs they work on they can still manage a new Batman series? I'm in
I loved them all since TAS was released
They've got a CGI version in the works, and it's essentially the same crew as TAS.
A fan animation project could also be good. Any thoughts? :smile:
Alejandro
01-10-2011, 09:51 AM
They've got a CGI version in the works, and it's essentially the same crew as TAS.
YAY! this makes me happy :biggrin:
thwhtGuardian
01-10-2011, 10:24 AM
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I'm betting that if it's going to be cg that it will look like the new GL animated series, which actually reminds me a lot of the Batman TAS look.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eP-TQH6WbX0/TLcmhOkHV-I/AAAAAAAAMEc/zNxuVkQjaC0/s1600/Green+Lantern+The+Animated+Series+Teaser+Televisio n+Poster.jpg
El Penitente
01-10-2011, 11:57 AM
I've always wondered : Why are the animated series never adaptations of the comics?
I would care to watch them if they were.
thwhtGuardian
01-10-2011, 12:04 PM
I've always wondered : Why are the animated series never adaptations of the comics?
I would care to watch them if they were.
I don't really get what you mean, many of the episodes from Batman TAS, and Justice League were adaptations of various comic stories, as were many episodes of the X-men and Spider-Man cartoons and even a few episodes of the Brave and the Bold cartoon had their roots directly in the comics.
El Penitente
01-10-2011, 12:36 PM
What I mean is a series adaptation with continuity. Not just one or two episodes.
I've never seen this done with any DC animated series.
thwhtGuardian
01-10-2011, 12:51 PM
I don't think that's likely to happen, and I'm not sure I'd want to either. The people writing these kinds of shows are talented writers in their own rights so I wouldn't want to hamper them from telling their own stories with their own interpretation of the character. A nice nod to classic stories is nice every once in a while, but the original episodes were always my favorite.
Don Yoyo
01-10-2011, 01:32 PM
I've always wondered : Why are the animated series never adaptations of the comics?
Too much material to go through, too many different characterizations of the main characters, too many different drawing styles, the continuity is a mess, etc.
Is it because japanese animation is getting more and more popular than those ridiculous 'demands' are getting more and more frequents? The japanese comic industry does not work the same way as the american one, there it's possible to make direct adaptation of the comics, not in the US, and certainly not with the mainstream titles!
Endless Flight
01-10-2011, 02:39 PM
What I mean is a series adaptation with continuity. Not just one or two episodes.
I've never seen this done with any DC animated series.
Syndication.
Dick/babs
01-12-2011, 04:19 AM
And they used him a LOT less when he was upgraded to Nightwing, too...
that because Bruce Tim does not like him
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