Come up with the biggest status risks a writer could possibly take with the franchise

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

One of the reasons brought up about why the X-books are in the current state they're in is that risks aren't being taken with them and that there's no permanent changes to the status quo happening within the books:


Claremont was able to make permanent changes to the status quo. The editors don't really allow that now-a-days. The only permanent changes characters get are death, resurrection, and a change of location.

With that said, what are the largest status quo shake-ups a writer or editor could make with the entire X-franchise as a whole?

How critical and substantial would this shake-up be compared to others in the franchise's history? How large would it be when it comes to changes to the status quo that have come before? A larger shake-up to the status quo than what even Claremont's first run was. A larger shake-up to the status quo than Morrison's run. Even a larger shake-up to the status quo than Wein and Cockrum's Giant-Size X-Men in which the title had been cancelled before then. If left up to you, what would your changes and additions to the status quo be? In addition to them being able to be considered both not only plausible and sustainable, but "publishable" by Marvel, how would they improve the X-franchise's success? How would these risks pay off?

Plus, how would these be permanent status quo shake-ups "done right" since according to most, M-Day and Utopia are examples of status quo shake-ups done wrong?

[Skaddix]

So are we suppose to come up with stuff marvel would actually consider? what we want? Or a combination of both that allows marvel to continue making a profit. For Instance, some may want Wolverine dead but that is never going to happen because it hurts sales wise.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

So are we suppose to come up with stuff marvel would actually consider? what we want? Or a combination of both that allows marvel to continue making a profit. For Instance, some may want Wolverine dead but that is never going to happen because it hurts sales wise.

A little bit of both, but leaning mainly towards "what you want." What "Marvel would actually consider" would be a factor of the "plausible and sustainable" and "improve the X-franchise's success" parts. And as you've said, the bolded example probably wouldn't be it (unless someone can come up with a way on how that would actually work and would still somehow improve Marvel's revenue).

[Quinnhop]

Divorcing Storm and Black Panther.

[Omega Alpha]

House of M was a huge status quo change, although a stupid one.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Divorcing Storm and Black Panther.

Would that really be a substantial change to the X-mythos though?


House of M was a huge status quo change, although a stupid one.

Yup. Like I stated:


D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;12391183']Plus, how would these be permanent status quo shake-ups "done right" since according to most, M-Day and Utopia are examples of status quo shake-ups done wrong?

What would be examples of potentially huge changes that greatly benefit the franchise instead of inadvertantly doing harm? Sort of like "opposite M-Days"

[Quinnhop]

Wiping mutant culture away from the post-Morrison zeitgeist of the Marvelverse and then spending the next five years treating them worse than Katrina refugees, while pretending to be sympathetic to the mutant (minority) cause--though, in fact, 90% of the company's efforts are being put into the anti-subversive Avengers franchise.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Removing any and all mentions of Beast from future, current and past storylines.

He never existed.

[Rasputin9977]

With the current Islam/Hispanic/homophobia that is running in around the US it would be a good time to have mutant phobia in the MU explode and bring in Days of Future Past to the present. Kill off any unecessary characters and trim down the line as a result.

[Pro]

Restore the mutant race. Hope's power has always been to collect the mutant energies that were taken from mutants during Decimation and when she is revealed for the treacherous cow that she is by sicking her Lights on humanity Bishop blows her head off.
Yay party. Mutant energies return to their previous owners. "It's magic, we don't have to explain it!".

Have the majority of mutants move to the blue area of the moon.

This new position means the writers will be less constrained by the other books when exploring mutant civilization. Magneto can be political counterpart to president Xavier or maybe lead the lunar armada as admiral Max Eisenhardt.

Like Adama and Roslin.
President Xavier:"I love you".
Admiral Eisenhardt:"It's about time".

Everyone on the moon stops using codenames. Except army personell.

Inhuman-Mutant war once the inhumans return to claim their old grounds.

Leave a million mutants on earth with the x-men acting as mutant ambassadors and teaching and policing the mutants who chose to remain behind. A million makes mutants a relative rarity on earth while still leaving plenty to be used as cannonfodder.

Cyclops kills Captain America when he blows a fuse over the tossed medal. Cyclops:"@F^& you!!". KZAAARPP!!
No not Bucky, the other one.

[DevilishRogue]

Holding cash cows like Logan responsible for past actions, booting him off the Avengers because its ridiculous. Having the courage and creativeness to actually utilize some real meat and potatoes waiting to be dug into with "lesser" characters instead of trying to copy the glory of the past with the same plots of already too big characters.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Restore the mutant race. Hope's power has always been to collect the mutant energies that were taken from mutants during Decimation and when she is revealed for the treacherous cow that she is by sicking her Lights on humanity Bishop blows her head off.
Yay party. Mutant energies return to their previous owners. "It's magic, we don't have to explain it!".

Have the majority of mutants move to the blue area of the moon.

This new position means the writers will be less constrained by the other books when exploring mutant civilization. Magneto can be political counterpart to president Xavier or maybe lead the lunar armada as admiral Max Eisenhardt.

Like Adama and Roslin.
President Xavier:"I love you".
Admiral Eisenhardt:"It's about time".

Everyone on the moon stops using codenames. Except army personell.

Inhuman-Mutant war once the inhumans return to claim their old grounds.

Leave a million mutants on earth with the x-men acting as mutant ambassadors and teaching and policing the mutants who chose to remain behind. A million makes mutants a relative rarity on earth while still leaving plenty to be used as cannonfodder.

Pretty interesting. This would be really cool to see, especially President Xavier. That'd be awesome.


Cyclops kills Captain America when he blows a fuse over the tossed medal. Cyclops:"@F^& you!!". KZAAARPP!!
No not Bucky, the other one.

Honestly, I don't think Steve would care.


Holding cash cows like Logan responsible for past actions, booting him off the Avengers because its ridiculous. Having the courage and creativeness to actually utilize some real meat and potatoes waiting to be dug into with "lesser" characters instead of trying to copy the glory of the past with the same plots of already too big characters.

Yeah, they really need to do more with the non-mains. It doesn't make sense for Scott, Emma and Logan to be maining three books (four for Logan).

[Captain Clarkie]

Kill Xavier and what's left of the 05.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Kill Xavier and what's left of the 05.

Would you create new characters to replace them or just fully let the "All-New All-Different" cast (and possibly Mags) take over?

[RolandJP]

Create a new X-men team from scratch in a giant-sized issue. (all new members..none seen before) Regulate the older members to X-men legacy. X-men. X-factor. X-force.

Save the new team for Uncanny.

[Captain Clarkie]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;12393202']Would you create new characters to replace them or just fully let the "All-New All-Different" cast (and possibly Mags) take over?

The point would be the disruption of both Scott and the Prof dying. I would certainly expect the all-new all different cast to step up to the plate, and start defining the difference between X-men and Mutants. It would certainly be an opportunity for Mags to make a power grab and to see how well Emma fares without Scott to back her up. Overall, I would do it for the sense of discontinuity, the death of the past before the future was certain. Order of death - Prof X, Angel, Beast, Scott, and last and hardest to kill Iceman.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

The point would be the disruption of both Scott and the Prof dying. I would certainly expect the all-new all different cast to step up to the plate, and start defining the difference between X-men and Mutants. It would certainly be an opportunity for Mags to make a power grab and to see how well Emma fares without Scott to back her up. Overall, I would do it for the sense of discontinuity, the death of the past before the future was certain. Order of death - Prof X, Angel, Beast, Scott, and last and hardest to kill Iceman.

Pretty interesting. Would you see this as leaving room for the New X-Men to grow? Have them transform into B-listers at least (A-listers, if developed and pushed enough)?

[Captain Clarkie]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;12393428']Pretty interesting. Would you see this as leaving room for the New X-Men to grow? Have them transform into B-listers at least (A-listers, if developed and pushed enough)?

Yes, definitely. Leaving room for new philosophies, dichotomies and conflicts. I'm not saying it would be a permanent thing, just two years or so for the newer x-men to really stand alone from the originals, and maybe really put pressure on Hope to be the mutant messiah or whatever.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Yes, definitely. Leaving room for new philosophies, dichotomies and conflicts. I'm not saying it would be a permanent thing, just two years or so for the newer x-men to really stand alone from the originals, and maybe really put pressure on Hope to be the mutant messiah or whatever.

I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. I think this would be key for a new direction, and would be vital for an overhaul of the status quo moving forward.

The idea behind the X-Men pre M-day was "acceptance" and "fighting for those that hate you." Post M-day, it's been "survival." Any ideas on what new philosophy(ies) would be as the driving force behind the X-Men with Xavier and the 05-ers gone?

[ExodusCloak]

Kill Xavier and Magneto for good.

[Captain Clarkie]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;12393493']I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. I think this would be key for a new direction, and would be vital for an overhaul of the status quo moving forward.

The idea behind the X-Men pre M-day was "acceptance" and "fighting for those that hate you." Post M-day, it's been "survival." Any ideas on what new philosophy(ies) would be as the driving force behind the X-Men with Xavier and the 05-ers gone?

I've thought a bit about it, and will do a bit more and respond, but it's my bedtime now. I'd be as interested to hear your thoughts when I'm back tomorrow.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

I've thought a bit about it, and will do a bit more and respond, but it's my bedtime now. I'd be as interested to hear your thoughts when I'm back tomorrow.

Myself, I'm thinking of a long-term (and canon) storyline where the X-Men actually achieve what they've been fighting for all these years: Global equality and peace between all mutants and humans.

The mutant population ends up gaining control over the entire social and world-wide political spectrum within the Marvel 616. And the thing is, they don't screw it up. They don't abuse their power and they work towards making sure this doesn't backfire. The X-Men would protect mutants and humans alike from mutants (and any remaining bigoted humans) trying to work against this new state of affairs. This sort of ties in to Pro's 'President Xavier' idea. Even in non-mutant books, this would effect all stories that take place on Marvel 616 Earth.

Of course, M-day would have to be reversed for this to work.

[IN-A-SYNCH]

I would say making Magneto the overall leader of the X-men with Namor as second in command.

I would also say having Jean come back and Kill Emma and Make Scott her bitch those would be pretty risky moves.

Emma isnt as popular but for Jean to kill her some people would be mad.

[Imraith Nimphais]

Not so much "status quo changing" but more of a definitive direction...Storm, realising a need for mutants to be present front and centre on the "Heroic" frontline, takes a group of X-men along with Xavier and they head back to NY to re-open the Xavier Institute. Not as a school per se, (because the children all stay at Utopia) but as a home base like the Avengers. They interact with more and more of the other superheroes paying more attention to the more underused ones like Monica Rambeau, Cloak and Dagger, the surving members of the Initiative, etc.
In essence they make a concerted effort to move away from mutant-centricity and really put the mutant/human/superhero ethic into practice. And they actually make it work! No more of that "feared and hated" rubbish.

[worstblogever]

Start a Mojoverse crossover that centers around Longshot and Shatterstar, and leads to the X-Men in the 616 being replaced with the goddamned X-babies.

[foreverrhapsody]

My List of Potential Status Changes In No Particular Order. Also, I figure just one of these is enough to change the status quo enough to make a large dent in the franchise.
-Kill Scott
-Blow up Utopia
-Put someone who has no leadership ability in charge of the mutants. Have them make several bad decisions.
-Genderswap every single character, and make it so they can't change back.


Start a Mojoverse crossover that centers around Longshot and Shatterstar, and leads to the X-Men in the 616 being replaced with the goddamned X-babies.

I have no idea if you're being sarcastic or not, but oh god I would read the hell out of that. I'm assuming you are, but I don't even care.

[worstblogever]

I have no idea if you're being sarcastic or not, but oh god I would read the hell out of that. I'm assuming you are, but I don't even care.

I'm not. A small minority would be down for the Mojoverse Saga... but replacing the X-Men with the unwanted abortions-that-should-have-been known as the X-Babies would be comic book poison to any sane X-fan.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Not so much "status quo changing" but more of a definitive direction...Storm, realising a need for mutants to be present front and centre on the "Heroic" frontline, takes a group of X-men along with Xavier and they head back to NY to re-open the Xavier Institute. Not as a school per se, (because the children all stay at Utopia) but as a home base like the Avengers. They interact with more and more of the other superheroes paying more attention to the more underused ones like Monica Rambeau, Cloak and Dagger, the surving members of the Initiative, etc.
In essence they make a concerted effort to move away from mutant-centricity and really put the mutant/human/superhero ethic into practice. And they actually make it work! No more of that "feared and hated" rubbish.

This sounds pretty cool. I think it could even tie in with mine and Pro's ideas.


I'm not. A small minority would be down for the Mojoverse Saga... but replacing the X-Men with the unwanted abortions-that-should-have-been known as the X-Babies would be comic book poison to any sane X-fan.

Yeah, though it would be an interesting storyline, it would probably go against the "plausible and sustainable", "improve the X-franchise's success" and "publishable by Marvel" parts, especially if it ends up being permanent.

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Not so much "status quo changing" but more of a definitive direction...Storm, realising a need for mutants to be present front and centre on the "Heroic" frontline, takes a group of X-men along with Xavier and they head back to NY to re-open the Xavier Institute. Not as a school per se, (because the children all stay at Utopia) but as a home base like the Avengers. They interact with more and more of the other superheroes paying more attention to the more underused ones like Monica Rambeau, Cloak and Dagger, the surving members of the Initiative, etc.
In essence they make a concerted effort to move away from mutant-centricity and really put the mutant/human/superhero ethic into practice. And they actually make it work! No more of that "feared and hated" rubbish.

A post from the "Why arent the X-men as popular as they used to be?" thread:


Yes and no. I would argue that 10 years of really trashy writing did a lot to damage the franchise, maybe even irreparably.

Also, at some point the "protect a world that hates and fears us" schtick gets a bit old. Morrison attempted to change that a bit, but it seems the franchise slid backwards after that.

[neohuey89]

Not so much "status quo changing" but more of a definitive direction...Storm, realising a need for mutants to be present front and centre on the "Heroic" frontline, takes a group of X-men along with Xavier and they head back to NY to re-open the Xavier Institute. Not as a school per se, (because the children all stay at Utopia) but as a home base like the Avengers. They interact with more and more of the other superheroes paying more attention to the more underused ones like Monica Rambeau, Cloak and Dagger, the surving members of the Initiative, etc.
In essence they make a concerted effort to move away from mutant-centricity and really put the mutant/human/superhero ethic into practice. And they actually make it work! No more of that "feared and hated" rubbish.

I think that's a good idea. I had brought up something similliar in the broken villain forum in the Marvel section that I think that mutant racial hate needs to be elevated to what racism and discrimination is today. imo most americans don't see race as an issue besides the groups that were previously discriminated against.

I think an event where mutant hate is basically over and done with and eveyone is fine with it except the mutants. I think the other heroes should start convincing mutants that they don't have to live in Utopia anymore, that the X-men isn't the only team they have to join. That can lead to mutant characters branching out to other franchises. I think The X-men itself should still remain intact, but Scott should be like a conspiracy theorist where mutants are outright attacks on the frontline, but strongly believes that can and will be attacked at any moment. So that they can still be their own group , but still be more involved with the rest of the Marvel Universe. Kinda like how groups like the NOI and Black Panthers were crucial during the civil rights era, but in todays age those same groups are often disregarded even by their own because many people are let to believe they aren't needed , but they would disagree.

[Dupe1979]

- Take Scott out of the picture, (don't kill him that is lazy and ultimately would only be cheapened and retconned), have him kidnapped or framed and incarcerated but take him out of the spotlight for a year or two, (no skrull replacements). Let Emma take charge and let some people think wait a moment, this psychopath is the last person that should lbe in charge.

I would say have him take a team into space but we saw what happened to Havok.

- Have Prof. X start over with a new team of X-Men. Cyclops doesn't want him and thinks he's out grown prof.... well lets see what happenes when Prof X starts a rival x-men team to continue the peaceful co-existence dream opposed to militaristic isolationism. (He should have accepted the Accolytes invitation to leadership).

- Have Hope turn villain and let Bishop have been right.

- Let Peter David and the X-Factor title/characters anchor a small x-universe crossover.

[The_Greatest_Username]

- Have Hope turn villain and let Bishop have been right.
that would be pretty interesting if it's written well...

[fortyseven]

- Have Hope turn villain and let Bishop have been right.


I'm totally down for this. It would be quite the shake up if it ment Kurt's death was pointless (and all the more tragic), as well as possibly bringing back Bishop. It would really shake up Cyclops' faith as well... It would definitively be interesting if done well.

[Infestor]

I'd bring back the idea of Secondary Mutations. Any mutant that as a character is interesting but has rather weak or boring power would be given a more interesting power to A- encourage writers to use him or her and B- increase their popularity.

[DevilishRogue]

I'd bring back the idea of Secondary Mutations. Any mutant that as a character is interesting but has rather weak or boring power would be given a more interesting power to A- encourage writers to use him or her and B- increase their popularity.

I actually find it more interesting to find creative ways to use powers that one already has than amping them up with a secondary mutant.

[The_Greatest_Username]

I'm totally down for this. It would be quite the shake up if it ment Kurt's death was pointless (and all the more tragic), as well as possibly bringing back Bishop. It would really shake up Cyclops' faith as well... It would definitively be interesting if done well.

I agree...it would add new excitement to the book

[Harold Sotomayor]

How about these mutants actually start pumping out babies and living like semi-real people. The closest we've seen of anything of the sort is back when Nathan was born. It was Cyclops vs. Growing up. Sadly, due to the editors, Cyclops won.

Another related shake up might involve Colossus having to pay child-support for little Peter Jr.

[Ramage]

Biggest risk a writer could take with the xmen concept:



Make the human bigots actually right. The mutants collectively are actually destructive to the human race and it is even embedded in their genetic code to destroy us homo sapiens. Sure, maybe there are some mutants that have been socialized to think of themselves as humans and protect them, but in the end their DNA will win out.

A storyline could be that Charles Xavier was actually trying to lull humanity into a false security during mutantkind's infancy and that his long term goal was the subjugation of humanity under mutant control. His conflict with magneto was an elaborate ruse and nothing more. Maybe an FBI agent would discover this and attempt to alert the country of the Xmen's true goals. But he would be marginalized by the media and labeled a racist "kook."

--This would totally upend the politcal philosophy underpinning the Xmen for fifty years. Instead of the liberal "toleration" and "diveristy", it would be a series advocating suspicion of others and xenophobia. It would advocate homogeneity.

It would be more consistent with the 2011 American outlook as typified by the recent controversery regarding the Muslim Civic center near ground zero and the American views on Mexican immigration. It would change the fundamental philosophy of the X-men series and it would be the biggest risk you could take with the franchise.

[direction9]

listen you need to just straight pull your head out of your ass if you don't think leaving the mansion, moving to sf, recruiting namor, killing cable/nightcrawler, magneto's role in bringing back kitty/bowing to cyclops, etc don't all constitute "taking risks".
as well as this xforce team and kid apocalypse.

get real. taking risks isn't exactly a problem right now

[fortyseven]

I love the move to San Fran/Utopia.
I wouldn't mind if the random mutants got kicked off of Utopia however.
Leave the island for just the X-Men and I want to see more of the city.

[Jason Abbadon]

Hope turns out to be Xorn, who absorned the Phionex force as Jean died amd was reborn on Earth.

Also, Emma is a post-op tranny and poor Scott never knew.

[jdviant]

Biggest risk a writer could take with the xmen concept:



Make the human bigots actually right. The mutants collectively are actually destructive to the human race and it is even embedded in their genetic code to destroy us homo sapiens. Sure, maybe there are some mutants that have been socialized to think of themselves as humans and protect them, but in the end their DNA will win out.

A storyline could be that Charles Xavier was actually trying to lull humanity into a false security during mutantkind's infancy and that his long term goal was the subjugation of humanity under mutant control. His conflict with magneto was an elaborate ruse and nothing more. Maybe an FBI agent would discover this and attempt to alert the country of the Xmen's true goals. But he would be marginalized by the media and labeled a racist "kook."

--This would totally upend the politcal philosophy underpinning the Xmen for fifty years. Instead of the liberal "toleration" and "diveristy", it would be a series advocating suspicion of others and xenophobia. It would advocate homogeneity.

It would be more consistent with the 2011 American outlook as typified by the recent controversery regarding the Muslim Civic center near ground zero and the American views on Mexican immigration. It would change the fundamental philosophy of the X-men series and it would be the biggest risk you could take with the franchise.

As a non-avid reader of the X-Men, this is the one idea in here that actually comes out sounding like a risk and creating the most story opportunities. Lots of the other ideas seem like easily reversible or fairly unimportant changes in the MU as a whole (kill this guy; move the x-men to NY), but this seems like it could encourage debate and interest from all readers, not just current X-Men ones.

[Pro]

A storyline could be that Charles Xavier was actually trying to lull humanity into a false security during mutantkind's infancy and that his long term goal was the subjugation of humanity under mutant control. His conflict with magneto was an elaborate ruse and nothing more. Maybe an FBI agent would discover this and attempt to alert the country of the Xmen's true goals. But he would be marginalized by the media and labeled a racist "kook."

This sounds very familiar somehow.

[Grapeweasel]

Telling your bosses that all these big events are crappy ideas and you're not going to waste your time participating in them.....

[Rasputin9977]

Telling your bosses that all these big events are crappy ideas and you're not going to waste your time participating in them.....
Comic book creators don't come with balls these days.

[Omega Alpha]

Some of the ideas are pretty good, while others simply appear to ignore the idea of the topic (Xavier in charge of the X-men is a risk? What's next? Move back to the mansion is a revolution?)

Anyway, the biggest risk they could take would be:

Increase the number of mutants again, and have mutantkind (or leats a huge part of it) form a nation. Yes, this was done with Genosha, but this time the X-men WOULD BE IN CHARGE. Meaning, they would pass from being the rebels, the persecuted, to having the power. They would also have to operate as both army and police force.

Even in stories like Age of Apocalypse, the X-men are always fighting the power, whether it's Apocalypse, Sentinels, Magneto, etc You want real risk? Turn them from anti-establishment superheroes to the establishment itself.

[ProfeZZor X]

Go global... Branch out the X-franchise and place headquarters in different countries around the world.

This will obviously create more X-books, but even with so many teams abroad, they can all be combined into 3 or 4 books - focusing on the teams that actually have missions, while other teams are doing off-beat things that focus on down time and character moments.

[Rasputin9977]

Go global... Branch out the X-franchise and place headquarters in different countries around the world.

This will obviously create more X-books, but even with so many teams abroad, they can all be combined into 3 or 4 books - focusing on the teams that actually have missions, while other teams are doing off-beat things that focus on down time and character moments.
They did that already with X-Corp. Whatever happend to X-Corp?

[otipep_90]

On that note marvel should re-focus Astonishing X-Men to make it the international/global team. They could add Sunfire, Northstar and Magan along with others with Storm as the leader.

Adjectivelss X-Men could stay as the US Embassy team base out of Graymalkin Industries and keep the rotating guest super-heroes.

[Skaddix]

Some of the ideas are pretty good, while others simply appear to ignore the idea of the topic (Xavier in charge of the X-men is a risk? What's next? Move back to the mansion is a revolution?)

Anyway, the biggest risk they could take would be:

Increase the number of mutants again, and have mutantkind (or leats a huge part of it) form a nation. Yes, this was done with Genosha, but this time the X-men WOULD BE IN CHARGE. Meaning, they would pass from being the rebels, the persecuted, to having the power. They would also have to operate as both army and police force.

Even in stories like Age of Apocalypse, the X-men are always fighting the power, whether it's Apocalypse, Sentinels, Magneto, etc You want real risk? Turn them from anti-establishment superheroes to the establishment itself.

I like that idea.


They did that already with X-Corp. Whatever happend to X-Corp?

Shutdown after M-Day crippled the mutant population.

[ProfeZZor X]

Shutdown after M-Day crippled the mutant population.

If Marvel continues with this whole "lights" thing, they can up play on that by creating international teams to search and find these characters. Sure, they're currently doing that with Hope's team, but something like that should be lead by a senior ranking X-Man/X-Men.

The other option would be a space station, like with JLA. This could lead to potential stories both on earth and in space.

[Phoen1xSon]

they need to do the X-Corps thing again. focus on more characters that way instead of what it looks like now. and besides, the X-men really are perfect targets with most of the mutant population being in place, so whoever decides to attack them again, despite their teamwork and defenses, will still be able to pick them off. branching out is always a better idea. but i still think they need to bring some back from character limbo and the dead first

[Skaddix]

If Marvel continues with this whole "lights" thing, they can up play on that by creating international teams to search and find these characters. Sure, they're currently doing that with Hope's team, but something like that should be lead by a senior ranking X-Man/X-Men.

The other option would be a space station, like with JLA. This could lead to potential stories both on earth and in space.

Yeah that is Hope's job, I just wish they made the pickup missions more difficult by having a villian or a bunch of different one trying to recruit new mutants first.

I doubt a space fortress is going to be popular with the public but it could be interesting especially if they do it like JLU and have a metro and watch tower.


they need to do the X-Corps thing again. focus on more characters that way instead of what it looks like now. and besides, the X-men really are perfect targets with most of the mutant population being in place, so whoever decides to attack them again, despite their teamwork and defenses, will still be able to pick them off. branching out is always a better idea. but i still think they need to bring some back from character limbo and the dead first

It depends the number of mutants is quite low so holding down the fort at one base makes a certain amount of sense. Agree with increased panel time spreading. We all have our dead favorites and characters in limbo, but bringing some back where it makes sense is always nice.

[Dupe1979]

- Have Havok reappear from Limbo and take exception to the militarisitc way scott runs things. Have him build his own team to continue the peaceful co-existence dream, (this is the same as my Prof. X new X-men crew but with Havok in charge instead it makes sense to make them a new "Brotherhood").

He could come to X-Factor looking for recruits, maybe peel off a member or two.

Havok's Brotherhood

Havok
Polaris
Beast
Wolfsbane
Toad
Random

[The_Greatest_Username]

- Have Havok reappear from Limbo and take exception to the militarisitc way scott runs things. Have him build his own team to continue the peaceful co-existence dream, (this is the same as my Prof. X new X-men crew but with Havok in charge instead it makes sense to make them a new "Brotherhood").

He could come to X-Factor looking for recruits, maybe peel off a member or two.

Havok's Brotherhood

Havok
Polaris
Beast
Wolfsbane
Toad
Random
that would be pretty interesting, you should add Rachel to their ranks so they could have a powerhouse...
although idk if they'd really oppose Scott, since they went off in to space to kill someone anyways

[DevilishRogue]

Go global... Branch out the X-franchise and place headquarters in different countries around the world.

This will obviously create more X-books, but even with so many teams abroad, they can all be combined into 3 or 4 books - focusing on the teams that actually have missions, while other teams are doing off-beat things that focus on down time and character moments.

THIS. X-Men: Europe lead by Kurt Wagner.

[Jason Abbadon]

I'd bring back the idea of Secondary Mutations. Any mutant that as a character is interesting but has rather weak or boring power would be given a more interesting power to A- encourage writers to use him or her and B- increase their popularity.

I'd love to see secondary mutations turn some of the "Glamor Mutants' into more freakish appearances- imagine if Emma Frost suddenly became all malformed and faceted as a extention of that diamond form of hers.

It would be high drama- could Scott still love her? How would someone to whom looks are everything get by when stared at for all the wrong reasons.

The entire "secondary mutation" thing could be a side effect of the Legacy Virus cure...I'd make it something unnatural.

[ProfeZZor X]

Yeah that is Hope's job, I just wish they made the pickup missions more difficult by having a villian or a bunch of different one trying to recruit new mutants first.

I actually made a thread about that idea some time ago. It would only make sense that other people and organizations other than the X-Men and the Brotherhood are looking for new mutant recruits. There's the Weapon X program, Sinister, and Apocalypse so far, but they've been around for so many years, that their goals are all too predictable and rehashed from their previously failed attempts. I like the idea of the Sublime Corporation, and the angle of doing it for profit, but there needs to be more of those types of organizations, each with a different agenda and take on what their interests are with the muant population. That's the kind of thinking out of the box I'd like to see with the X-Men books.


I doubt a space fortress is going to be popular with the public but it could be interesting especially if they do it like JLU and have a metro and watch tower.

A space station might not be all that popular, but at least it'll give the X-books a change of pace, rather than dealing with same old terrestrial villains all the time. After all, the X-Men do have both villains and allies in outer space.

[Koni]

THIS. X-Men: Europe lead by Kurt Wagner.

The x-office could do trips to Europe for "research".