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FirestormTheNuclearMan
12-17-2010, 10:45 AM
The archenemy of Spider Man. The original Green Goblin ended the silver age by killing Gwen Stacy.
ShaggyB
12-17-2010, 10:48 AM
The archenemy of Spider Man. The original Green Goblin ended the silver age by killing Gwen Stacy.
I liked Norman but I still preferred Hobgoblin more.... I think in recent years, through all normans growth as a character, ive come to like him in a different way.
Pumpkin Bomb
12-17-2010, 11:08 AM
He certainly has great taste in weaponry.
FirestormTheNuclearMan
12-17-2010, 11:23 AM
I liked Norman but I still preferred Hobgoblin more.... I think in recent years, through all normans growth as a character, ive come to like him in a different way.
If it was not for Norman as the original Green Goblin Hobgoblin would not exist.
Kevin Nichols
12-17-2010, 11:29 AM
I agree with Shaggy in that I always liked the Hobgoblin over Green Goblin. For that matter, I enjoyed Harry as the Green Goblin (especially under the helm of J.M. DeMatteis) more than I liked Norman.
Norman (for me) was great in the Ditko books (before we knew he was Norman) right up until his death in ASM 122. Ever since his return, I've sort of felt "blah" about him. He's had some good moments, no doubt. Goblins at the Gate was very good. So was Double Shots in Spider-Man: Tangled Web # 13.
ShaggyB
12-17-2010, 11:56 AM
If it was not for Norman as the original Green Goblin Hobgoblin would not exist.
which is a fact no one can deny. I just find Normans crazy side to be something that needs to be lessened.... I think the Goblin works better without it. (but i also prefer Norman when hes more like Lex Luthor.)
FirestormTheNuclearMan
12-17-2010, 12:11 PM
which is a fact no one can deny. I just find Normans crazy side to be something that needs to be lessened.... I think the Goblin works better without it. (but i also prefer Norman when hes more like Lex Luthor.)
As no side effect of insansity.
http://www.comicvine.com/news/off-my-mind-what-made-norman-osborn-evil/142554/
It's obvious what made him evil. His dad lost the fortune became a violent alcoholic abusing Norman physically, and psychologically, also when in the dark he was afraid when light replaced darkness the green goblin monster would eat him which lead him to conclude that darkness is better than light, and the goblin formula made him insane.
Vakanai
12-17-2010, 12:42 PM
Green Goblin is my favorite super villain, so I definitely like him. Don't think he's been used as well as he could be. A little overexposure. But far superior to any goblin pretenders to the throne. I think the movie and Spectacular version were awesome. So yeah...
Norman taught me how not to use a goblin glider as a shiv!
AntiVenom
12-17-2010, 01:19 PM
Green goblin is one of my favorite super villains!! Even though he doesnt really possess any great powers i like his mind which he is a perfect genius!!
brundlefly
12-17-2010, 03:02 PM
I agree with Shaggy in that I always liked the Hobgoblin over Green Goblin. For that matter, I enjoyed Harry as the Green Goblin (especially under the helm of J.M. DeMatteis) more than I liked Norman.
Norman (for me) was great in the Ditko books (before we knew he was Norman) right up until his death in ASM 122. Ever since his return, I've sort of felt "blah" about him. He's had some good moments, no doubt. Goblins at the Gate was very good. So was Double Shots in Spider-Man: Tangled Web # 13.
Agree with all of this. I far prefer both Kingsley and Harry over Norman in the Goblin roles and I thought that Norm worked far, far better as a "too evil and crazy to live" dead man whose vile legacy was carried on through those two successors and also by the great harm that he'd inflicted on people close to Peter (Gwen and Harry). Plus Norman had a great death and that "Goblin healing factor" silliness was one of Marvel's lamest resurrection retcons, which immediately turned me off in regards to his return. The only time that I've cared for him post-resurrection was in Ellis' Thunderbolts (he really had a great grasp of the character, the repeated Freudian slips about Spider-Man and the "President Goblin" monologue were both absolute classics).
sirvk
12-17-2010, 09:06 PM
The Green Goblin is my favourite villian, no matter who was under the mask. That said, I would hate for Harry to go back to being a villian.
stewart48
12-17-2010, 09:44 PM
Always liked Hobgoblin more. Always felt norman was his own worst enemy while the hobs didn't give spidey the luxury of tripping over his own craziness.
Greenie gets put to the top of recent spidey fans because of the personal attacks he could unleash because he knew Pete's ID. Didn't like too many of those stories from the past 10 years.
Norman taught me how not to use a goblin glider as a shiv!
It's a valuable lesson that everyone should learn
FirestormTheNuclearMan
12-17-2010, 11:47 PM
Always liked Hobgoblin more. Always felt norman was his own worst enemy while the hobs didn't give spidey the luxury of tripping over his own craziness.
Greenie gets put to the top of recent spidey fans because of the personal attacks he could unleash because he knew Pete's ID. Didn't like too many of those stories from the past 10 years.
Add in he is arrogant.
Norman Osborn get's put to the top for Spidey fans because not only did he kill Gwen Stacy, he knocked her up while her and Peter were going out, mastermind behind the clone saga, forced Spider Man to break him out of jail with the the Sinister 12 as the trap, and is proof while it's hard to keep a good man down a bad man is even harder.
He make's Spider Man's life hell because he hates him, and because he can. He feels no remorse. Love to see him fight Ghost Rider. Ghost Rider would taunt him before giving him the penace stare, and smashing him.
TonyStark1012
12-17-2010, 11:52 PM
Norman Osborne is a great character and villain and Dark Reign showed that to everyone.
remoteman
12-18-2010, 06:48 AM
I always thought that Harry Osborn had the potential to be Spider-Man's modern day arch enemy, it's a shame that since his return his villainous days seem to be behind him.
Nefarius
12-18-2010, 07:27 AM
Before being turned into a living stereotype of villainy,Norman Osborn,the original Green Goblin,was one of the most "human" villains that Spidey had during the Silver Age.
First of all,Norman was ruthless but not inhuman.He showed not regrets when he ruined his co-partner Mendel Stromm and took absolute control of Oscorp and he would hire muscle help or assasins if that's necessary,but he wasn't the overcomblicated schemer that Marvel shove down our throats after his ressurection.I loved that there was a balance in his villainy.As a father,silver age Norman wasn't a monster,he loved his child but he was so focused in his quest for money and power that he ignored Harry.He thought that with buying expensive things for Harry,he would earn his love.Big mistake.
As for his super-villain persona,the Goblin identity is a refuge for him when major problems enter his life such as his son's relapse into drug addicition and business failures, which converge upon him at the same time, shattering his fragile veneer of sanity. It is easier to blame his business rivals or Peter Parker for his problems than himself, and it is easier for him to become the Green Goblin than deal with his problems as Norman Osborn.Deep down,Norman was as insecure as a person as his son,Harry.Like Harry,Norman used the Green Goblin as a way to hide his failures,because if there is one thing that Norman fears,it's failure.I believe that Osborn is a person that cannot stand the presure and the responsibilities of running a big business.As a Green Goblin,he takes matters into his hands.He knows that NY's underworld scene offers many opportunities for profit,yet as a businessman,he couldn't risk a direct involvement.But as Goblin,he could achieve power without moral restrains and compromises.
Speaking of this,Green Goblin M.O. is quite different than many big league villains at the time.Although Norman had clues for every dirt that his rich friends had and he could easily create criminal ties as a white-collar criminal,Osborn prefer the direct approach.See what he did when he learned that Spiderman is Peter Parker.He attacked him,humiliate him in battle and wanting to give him the fatal blow.And everytime Norman remembered his criminal nature,he attacked Parker directly.No overcomplicated schemes or indirect assaults.Even Gwen's kidnapping and death wasn't Norman's plan.He went to Parker and found Gwen instead and decided to use her as a bait.That's why Hobgoblin was a different kind of player.Hobgoblin used deception and mischief to protect his identity and handle most of his foes.Because for Kingsley,Hobgoblin is just a hobby.He enjoys the thrill but he won't allowed to be consumed by the freedom that a costume provide.Norman,like Peter,his free inside his costume.He loves taking things into his hands.You messed with Osborn,he would beat you to death and he will enjoy that display of power.
After Clone Saga,Osborn was quite a different character and he was written as a copy of Byrne's Luthor.That killed most of his charm that had during his first appearence.
Combustible Pumpkins
12-18-2010, 09:59 AM
Thought this was a GG appreciation thread? Where's all the photos? :smile:
This is a great Norman / Goblin site:
http://www.thegreengoblinshideout.com
http://www.thegreengoblinshideout.com/_/rsrc/1262172017866/the-green-goblin-in-the-616-marvel-continuity-by-publication-date/tbolts_120013.jpg?height=346&width=400
Spider's Comics
12-18-2010, 11:49 AM
Thought this was a GG appreciation thread? Where's all the photos? :smile:
This is a great Norman / Goblin site:
http://www.thegreengoblinshideout.com
http://www.thegreengoblinshideout.com/_/rsrc/1262172017866/the-green-goblin-in-the-616-marvel-continuity-by-publication-date/tbolts_120013.jpg?height=346&width=400
I agree this is a great site.
stewart48
12-18-2010, 12:26 PM
Add in he is arrogant.
Norman Osborn get's put to the top for Spidey fans because not only did he kill Gwen Stacy, he knocked her up while her and Peter were going out, mastermind behind the clone saga, forced Spider Man to break him out of jail with the the Sinister 12 as the trap, and is proof while it's hard to keep a good man down a bad man is even harder.
He make's Spider Man's life hell because he hates him, and because he can. He feels no remorse. Love to see him fight Ghost Rider. Ghost Rider would taunt him before giving him the penace stare, and smashing him.
Like I said other than the death of gwen stacy most of those weren't stories I cared for. Just a moron who let his crazy get in the way of succeeding. I agree with the previous poster who though Norman was a lot more interesting in ASM prior to clone saga when he came back. Its sad the best Norman Stories were outside of ASM or Dark Reign related.
FirestormTheNuclearMan
12-19-2010, 09:43 PM
The Green Goblin is my favourite villian, no matter who was under the mask. That said, I would hate for Harry to go back to being a villian.
Harry would not work out long as Green Goblin. Unlike Norman he does not have the superiority complex that Norman has, and is not a prick.
TonyStark1012
12-19-2010, 09:49 PM
Add in he is arrogant.
Norman Osborn get's put to the top for Spidey fans because not only did he kill Gwen Stacy, he knocked her up while her and Peter were going out, mastermind behind the clone saga, forced Spider Man to break him out of jail with the the Sinister 12 as the trap, and is proof while it's hard to keep a good man down a bad man is even harder.
He make's Spider Man's life hell because he hates him, and because he can. He feels no remorse. Love to see him fight Ghost Rider. Ghost Rider would taunt him before giving him the penace stare, and smashing him.
Quoted for truth! Perfectly said!
remoteman
12-20-2010, 01:56 AM
Harry would not work out long as Green Goblin. Unlike Norman he does not have the superiority complex that Norman has, and is not a prick.
This is true, but I don't think that a superiority complex is necessary to be an effective villain and given all the unpleasant things that Harry has been through, it would not be too much of a stretch if he was to turn into a 'prick'.
FirestormTheNuclearMan
12-20-2010, 09:17 AM
This is true, but I don't think that a superiority complex is necessary to be an effective villain and given all the unpleasant things that Harry has been through, it would not be too much of a stretch if he was to turn into a 'prick'.
Yeah but I think it would be better to have someone else be the Green Goblin. A relative of Mendel Stormm, or some person that Norman antagonized.
Mister Mets
12-20-2010, 02:43 PM
Yeah but I think it would be better to have someone else be the Green Goblin. A relative of Mendel Stormm, or some person that Norman antagonized.
Hmm, an enemy of Norman Osborn could make for an interesting Goblin.
FirestormTheNuclearMan
01-01-2011, 01:53 AM
Hmm, an enemy of Norman Osborn could make for an interesting Goblin.
Also make for a interesting story with the tables being reversed. Norman antagonized this person now this person is repeaying him think of all the sorrrow he or she could put Norman through to give him a taste of his own medicine. Norman complains I have not antagonized or bothered you so leave me alone, and the Goblin responds you idiot you antagonized me before I became the Goblin, revenge is sweet beg for mercy you snide egotistical arrogant blunt heinous prick.
Aziz Abbasi
01-01-2011, 02:07 AM
http://www.ifanboy.com/images/ifanboy/Iron%20Patriot.jpg
http://www.ironmanpatriot.com/images/Norman_Osborn_%28Earth-616%29_Iron_Patriot.jpg
I was always a fan of Norman and his alterego, but he was never my favorite Marvel villain until they made him the big head of national security and he became the Iron patriot, that is how an arch villain should be like
His end in Siege is disappointing, what Peter Parker did in Dark Reign: The List is far better
Blight
01-01-2011, 11:49 AM
I dunno. I like to consider Norman's true end /epilogue being the last issue of Dark Avengers. Where he's talking to "Green Goblin" blaming him for the real loss of Siege. That was probably my favorite moment of Siege.
Evil-Spidey
01-01-2011, 11:58 AM
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1638/crimegobp.png
Hey Norman what happened to your priorities?
Crimson Knightman
01-02-2011, 09:54 AM
Norman Osborn is not exactly my favorite Spider-Man villain but I've accepted the fact that he's obviously Spider-Man's arch nemesis. Perhaps it's the nostalgia but I think Norman is the best Green Goblin because he is the most effective. I think the best thing they've done with Norman is letting him play outside the Spider-Man playbox, I like seeing him battle against Iron Man and Captain America. I've been reading the Osborn series and I like the fact that he has these followers that are preserving his power, it certainly adds to his strength as a villain.
Nefarius
01-02-2011, 10:06 AM
I dunno. I like to consider Norman's true end /epilogue being the last issue of Dark Avengers. Where he's talking to "Green Goblin" blaming him for the real loss of Siege. That was probably my favorite moment of Siege.
I would be happy if Dark Avengers 16 would be the last appearence of Norman Osborn in 616 universe.It's the perfect end for a character like Osborn,who started as a phychotic businessman with a halloween costume and deadly gadgets and became leader of HAMMER,succesor of SHIELD and tried to make alliances with individuals like Doom,Namor and Loki.He reached the peak and he now faced his ultimate downfall.A great epilogue,worthy of Hobgoblin's retirement at "Goblins at Gate".
Combustible Pumpkins
01-02-2011, 10:32 AM
I was always a fan of Norman and his alterego, but he was never my favorite Marvel villain until they made him the big head of national security and he became the Iron patriot, that is how an arch villain should be like
I enjoyed that, I think I liked Ellis' Norman in T-Bolts a little better though.
His end in Siege is disappointing, what Peter Parker did in Dark Reign: The List is far better
Yeah, watching Norman try to slink off at the end of Siege was disappointing, overall I think I like Siege a little better than Spidey's DR List one-shot however. In Dark Reign: The List, we were finally getting a one on one fight with Norman and Pete, yet a lot of the scenes were people watching it on TV like it was some sporting event and the issue had too much emphasis on politics, imo.
Here's one of my favorite Norman scenes before he puts on the mask in Thunderbolts #120.. the issue just keeps getting better from this scene onward.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/wotsreal/osbornfreakout.jpg?t=1293992290
Aziz Abbasi
01-02-2011, 05:09 PM
Yeah, watching Norman try to slink off at the end of Siege was disappointing, overall I think I like Siege a little better than Spidey's DR List one-shot however. In Dark Reign: The List, we were finally getting a one on one fight with Norman and Pete, yet a lot of the scenes were people watching it on TV like it was some sporting event and the issue had too much emphasis on politics, imo.I like the political view, wishing for more scenes of fights between Spidey & Norman could show more people in favor of their enemy over their true guardian trashing Spider-Man
Here's one of my favorite Norman scenes before he puts on the mask in Thunderbolts #120.. the issue just keeps getting better from this scene onward.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/wotsreal/osbornfreakout.jpg?t=1293992290Caged Angels is IMO the best story of that year, you brought a real good example
sirvk
01-02-2011, 11:09 PM
I would be happy if Dark Avengers 16 would be the last appearence of Norman Osborn in 616 universe.It's the perfect end for a character like Osborn,who started as a phychotic businessman with a halloween costume and deadly gadgets and became leader of HAMMER,succesor of SHIELD and tried to make alliances with individuals like Doom,Namor and Loki.He reached the peak and he now faced his ultimate downfall.A great epilogue,worthy of Hobgoblin's retirement at "Goblins at Gate".
The only problem is that Spider-Man wasn't involved.
Nefarius
01-03-2011, 01:18 AM
The only problem is that Spider-Man wasn't involved.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61766/1157569-siege_3_legion_cps_033_super.jpg
Ok,maybe it wasn't the big showdown you would expect many spiderfans,but it was a sweet moment.
StoneGold
01-03-2011, 01:29 AM
the issue just keeps getting better from this scene onward.
Not exactly -- it doesn't get any better than this two-page spread, period.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd8NBIma-zo/SC4EY8amyII/AAAAAAAADic/S_gupjXv6yA/s1600/Tbolts120%2B-%2BnakedDictation.jpg
ShaggyB
01-03-2011, 06:16 AM
Not exactly -- it doesn't get any better than this two-page spread, period.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd8NBIma-zo/SC4EY8amyII/AAAAAAAADic/S_gupjXv6yA/s1600/Tbolts120%2B-%2BnakedDictation.jpg
I really cant wait for him to be back in that costume.
Jim Thompson
01-03-2011, 06:27 AM
I really cant wait for him to be back in that costume.I can. :tongue:
Aziz Abbasi
01-03-2011, 06:29 AM
I can. :tongue:
A fellow fan of the Iron Patriot?
Jim Thompson
01-03-2011, 06:30 AM
A fellow fan of the Iron Patriot?No -- one of those who believes Norman's character should never have been brought back in the first place.
Aziz Abbasi
01-03-2011, 06:35 AM
No -- one of those who believes Norman's character should never have been brought back in the first place.
I find it the best thing to come out from the Clone Saga
Dark Reign was another major plus for resurrecting him
I love what happened because of his (presumed) death though, the Hobgoblin is the best thing to come out from offing Norman
Jim Thompson
01-03-2011, 06:38 AM
I find it the best thing to come out from the Clone Saga
Dark Reign was another major plus for resurrecting himI actually think his return was one of the worst things to come out of the Saga -- I thought Peter Parker: Spider-Man #75 was just a horrible issue all the way around.
And I thought Dark Reign was boring, personally.
I like Norman as a character that's sort of an anti-uncle Ben -- someone who died and left a legacy of evil that Spider-Man constantly has to overcome (a la Harry, the Hobgoblin, Bart Hamilton, etc.).
Aziz Abbasi
01-03-2011, 06:47 AM
I actually think his return was one of the worst things to come out of the Saga -- I thought Peter Parker: Spider-Man #75 was just a horrible issue all the way around.
And I thought Dark Reign was boring, personally.
I like Norman as a character that's sort of an anti-uncle Ben -- someone who died and left a legacy of evil that Spider-Man constantly has to overcome (a la Harry, the Hobgoblin, Bart Hamilton, etc.).
It seems to me that your opinion cannot be shaken down a bit, with this you create a challenge to anyone considering changing your mind
Jim Thompson
01-03-2011, 06:48 AM
It seems to me that your opinion cannot be shaken down a bit, with this you create a challenge to anyone considering changing your mindHow so? :confused:
Aziz Abbasi
01-03-2011, 07:10 AM
How so? :confused:
Cause I'm pretty sure nothing will make you think the resurrection of Norman had a great outcome
Jim Thompson
01-03-2011, 07:36 AM
Cause I'm pretty sure nothing will make you think the resurrection of Norman had a great outcomeThat might be true.
On the other hand, while I didn't think bringing Aunt May back from the dead was a good idea, I loved what Stracynski did with the character. Same applies to what's been done with Bucky Barnes. And while I thought initially Morrison was a horrible choice to write Batman, I now think he's had one of the best runs ever done with the character.
oldschool
01-03-2011, 07:44 AM
Not exactly -- it doesn't get any better than this two-page spread, period.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd8NBIma-zo/SC4EY8amyII/AAAAAAAADic/S_gupjXv6yA/s1600/Tbolts120%2B-%2BnakedDictation.jpg
That is indeed a pretty sweet scene, both for it's writing and art----both really top-notch!!
I would agree that it is one of the best uses post-Norman resurrection; not everything about his return worked for me but much of Dark Reign did, even though he was portrayed a bit too much like Lex Luthor early on in the run.
David Walton
01-03-2011, 07:45 AM
The trick is whether one appreciates the Green Goblin or Norman Osborn.
I like the Goblin, a nutjob with an inferiority complex whose legacy is more of a threat than the man ever was.
He's the anti-Uncle Ben, which made Harry the anti Peter Parker.
Ramage
01-03-2011, 07:56 AM
I like dead Norman. Impaled by his own glider.
That naked monologue though might make me change my mind though.
Evil-Spidey
01-03-2011, 08:07 AM
People don't be shy if one scene deserves to be in this topic as a whole then it's this one:
http://www.comicsbulletin.com/reviews/images/0805/thunderbolts1202.jpg
http://www.comicsbulletin.com/reviews/images/0805/thunderbolts1203.jpg
http://www.comicsbulletin.com/reviews/images/0805/thunderbolts1204.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd8NBIma-zo/SC4EY8amyII/AAAAAAAADic/S_gupjXv6yA/s1600/Tbolts120%2B-%2BnakedDictation.jpg
Combustible Pumpkins
01-03-2011, 09:53 AM
I really cant wait for him to be back in that costume.
Here, Here! It's cool that when he does nowadays it becomes like a huge event or something. I'm lovin it.
I would agree that it is one of the best uses post-Norman resurrection; not everything about his return worked for me but much of Dark Reign did, even though he was portrayed a bit too much like Lex Luthor early on in the run.
Norman's return was awesome, I remember lovin that too, but it took Marvel awhile, imo, to make Norman interesting again. I remember liking this issue (but then it slowly went down hill for me, landing on The Gathering Of Five which I could barely read at the time, it just seemed so terrible back then):
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/images/spiderman_spectacular/250.jpg
Combustible Pumpkins
01-03-2011, 09:57 AM
The trick is whether one appreciates the Green Goblin or Norman Osborn.
I like the Goblin, a nutjob with an inferiority complex whose legacy is more of a threat than the man ever was.
He's the anti-Uncle Ben, which made Harry the anti Peter Parker.
I enjoyed the legacy too, something weird about being obsessed once the threads are donned. I think that idea had run its course, however. Spidey pretty much beat almost a dozen incarnations of that (Hobgoblins included).
Vakanai
01-03-2011, 02:55 PM
Love Norman Goblin, don't know why they kept him dead for so long. And the whole anti-Uncle Ben thing and dark legacy of evil?
Ack!
Then again, I just hate legacy crap in fiction in general. Why leave a legacy when we can just have the original? And in comics, where characters don't grow old and die, there's really no need for it.
So yeah, good on Norman coming back.
For those wishing he stayed dead: Haters gonna hate.:tongue:
Not exactly -- it doesn't get any better than this two-page spread, period.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd8NBIma-zo/SC4EY8amyII/AAAAAAAADic/S_gupjXv6yA/s1600/Tbolts120%2B-%2BnakedDictation.jpg
Love that version of the costume.
sirvk
01-03-2011, 05:35 PM
I actually think his return was one of the worst things to come out of the Saga -- I thought Peter Parker: Spider-Man #75 was just a horrible issue all the way around.
And I thought Dark Reign was boring, personally.
I like Norman as a character that's sort of an anti-uncle Ben -- someone who died and left a legacy of evil that Spider-Man constantly has to overcome (a la Harry, the Hobgoblin, Bart Hamilton, etc.).
While I enjoyed Thunderbolts, Dark Avengers and the Peter Parker & Marvel Knights stuff that featured Norman, I do agree that I would have preferred him as an anti-uncle Ben as well.
I've never read PP75 or what came after (until Mackie reboot), but I do think that bringing back Norman and May was uncalled for - even though I liked how they have both been subsequently used.
At least until JMS left the book for May, current incarnation we could do without.
FirestormTheNuclearMan
01-03-2011, 09:46 PM
The trick is whether one appreciates the Green Goblin or Norman Osborn.
I like the Goblin, a nutjob with an inferiority complex whose legacy is more of a threat than the man ever was.
He's the anti-Uncle Ben, which made Harry the anti Peter Parker.
Well it was Norman Osborn that got Gwen pregnant, but it was the Green Goblin who decided to kill her hoping Spider Man would want revenge, and murder him.
Aziz Abbasi
01-04-2011, 03:27 AM
Love Norman Goblin, don't know why they kept him dead for so long. And the whole anti-Uncle Ben thing and dark legacy of evil?
Ack!
Then again, I just hate legacy crap in fiction in general. Why leave a legacy when we can just have the original? And in comics, where characters don't grow old and die, there's really no need for it.
So yeah, good on Norman coming back.A badass fan of Norman:wink:
whiteshark
01-04-2011, 03:57 AM
That is indeed a pretty sweet scene, both for it's writing and art----both really top-notch!!
I would agree that it is one of the best uses post-Norman resurrection; not everything about his return worked for me but much of Dark Reign did, even though he was portrayed a bit too much like Lex Luthor early on in the run.
Agreed.
Post resurection it was Waren Ellis that used best Norman Oborn in a great set of stories in Thunderbolts.
Vakanai
01-04-2011, 05:15 PM
A badass fan of Norman:wink:
You know it.:cool:
FirestormTheNuclearMan
01-07-2011, 10:48 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/66/Green_goblin2.jpg/250px-Green_goblin2.jpg
Combustible Pumpkins
01-07-2011, 01:07 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/66/Green_goblin2.jpg/250px-Green_goblin2.jpg
Nice one! Keep these coming, folks, I'm lovin it.
Nefarius
01-07-2011, 01:56 PM
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8792/night12.jpg
This was propably one of the most epic confrontation between Gobby and Spidey(stil ASM 39-40 are their top IMO).I feel that Harras(as Editor) and Mackie(as writer) tried to copy a similar scene between Harry and Peter during The Child Within.
http://www.spideykicksbutt.com/GreenwithEvil/GoblinPrinceN1.jpg
Nefarius
01-07-2011, 02:14 PM
http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/amazing14.jpg
The good old times.Goblin first insidious plan to be...a movie star and lure Spiderman into a trap and a porn movie director.It was clear from the very beginning that this man would master mind the Clone Saga and would succeed Nick Fury and Tony Stark as the top cop of Marvel!!!:tongue:
Aziz Abbasi
01-07-2011, 03:09 PM
The scene as Mackie and Romit jr did it has a more powerful Spidey IMO
FirestormTheNuclearMan
01-08-2011, 11:54 PM
http://www.samruby.com/Villains/GreenGoblinII/GreenGoblinDream.gif
http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel//universe3zx/images/0/09/Green_goblin_inline_.jpg
So is the irony of Norman Osborn wanting to avoid failing like his father has made him worse than his dad.
He's not the drunk that his dad is but still just as brutal to Harry making it known to his son he see's him as a failure.
The dysfunctional relationship that he had with his dad is not being repeated this time with his own son.
Instead of alcohol Norman Osborn terrorizes people as Green Goblin.
He could have done something excellent with his smart mind cure cancer, a bottle that keeps water ice cold, etc but instead he chooses to be a demon.
FirestormTheNuclearMan
01-11-2011, 11:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJg45cfRU7M
Fantastic Green Goblin tribute
Monty_Cristo
01-11-2011, 03:48 PM
So is the irony of Norman Osborn wanting to avoid failing like his father has made him worse than his dad.
He's not the drunk that his dad is but still just as brutal to Harry making it known to his son he see's him as a failure.
The dysfunctional relationship that he had with his dad is not being repeated this time with his own son.
Instead of alcohol Norman Osborn terrorizes people as Green Goblin.
He could have done something excellent with his smart mind cure cancer, a bottle that keeps water ice cold, etc but instead he chooses to be a demon.
well he was trying to save the world there for a little bit (Dark Reign). but he had a little help in reverting to type.
FirestormTheNuclearMan
01-15-2011, 10:53 PM
well he was trying to save the world there for a little bit (Dark Reign). but he had a little help in reverting to type.
Save the world was that before the list.
FirestormTheNuclearMan
01-22-2011, 10:52 AM
http://www.maxcomix.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Wizard_LMS_DC_Villains_vs_Marvel_Villains.jpg
Green Goblin vs The Joker. Is Green Goblin most similar to the Joker.
Aziz Abbasi
01-22-2011, 10:58 AM
He's the arch nemesis of the top hero of his company and did the most damage to him, much like the Joker
Both of them really love purple, green & orange
FirestormTheNuclearMan
01-28-2011, 02:34 PM
He's the arch nemesis of the top hero of his company and did the most damage to him, much like the Joker
Both of them really love purple, green & orange
Also both enjoy being deplorable.
Justin K.
12-13-2011, 06:43 PM
Norman Osborn is currently participating in the Battle for the Ultimate Alpha Male of the Avengers. Show your support!
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=14368461&postcount=161
FirestormTheNuclearMan
05-19-2012, 11:31 PM
Norman Osborn the original Green Goblin is the best Green Goblin.
Mistah K88
05-20-2012, 11:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI11yGUmeEY
You gotta love a villain with a decent laugh.
Fanofthegoblins
05-20-2012, 12:25 PM
The GG and Norman thing always confuse me. Is Norman controlling the Goblin's actions or it is really split persoanlity?!? There are times GG would refer to himself as "I" instead of "we", meaning, Norman is aware he is the Goblin. He was even worried about Peter telling Harry about his criminal life back when he first unmasked himself to Petey.
Mistah K88
05-20-2012, 01:04 PM
The split personality thing was started in the 90's animated series and perpetuated in the first movie. Norman is full aware of his actions when he puts on the costume, he just had bouts of amnesia back in the day.
dbcb314
05-20-2012, 01:06 PM
when was the last time Norman went full green goblin?
Arachnid
05-21-2012, 02:24 AM
Normans Goblin always has been and always will be my favorite comic book villain. No one terrorized a hero as perfectly as he did to Spiderman, and their confrontations were always epic and fun to watch. Recently, we went more worldwide though, and that made me loose a bit of interest. I prefer him to be a more personal villain for Spidey.
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs30/f/2008/136/2/d/Thunderbolts_120__Green_Goblin_by_Summerset.jpg
Fanofthegoblins
05-21-2012, 03:14 AM
I got a question.....
according to Greg Weisman of the Spectacular Spider-man series, Norman's life as the Goblin is now public knowledge. Wth? So everyone in the city took the word of ONE witness(Peter)? I don't think Norman is stupid to put all his goblin weapons and costumes in his closet for people to find. There was not enough proof to connect him to the goblin.
Mistah K88
05-21-2012, 06:30 PM
Well...people did see him flying around New York City unmasked.
You know, the animated series Spectacular Spider-Man's Green Goblin had a pretty solid design when tackled by another artist without the restraints of simplification for animation's sake.
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/177/d/4/spectacular_spider_man_goblin_by_venom20xx-d3k4dgm.jpg
CrazyOldHermit
05-21-2012, 10:43 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd8NBIma-zo/SC4EY8amyII/AAAAAAAADic/S_gupjXv6yA/s1600/Tbolts120%2B-%2BnakedDictation.jpg
This costume weirds me out. Hes the Green Goblin, not the Goblin Wearing Green Armour. It looks like hes not wearing any pants.
Fanofthegoblins
05-22-2012, 07:41 PM
This costume weirds me out. Hes the Green Goblin, not the Goblin Wearing Green Armour. It looks like hes not wearing any pants.
I agree. That costume looks silly. I hate it when they try to get fancy with his costume.
E. Wilson
05-22-2012, 08:16 PM
The Marvel Select Green Goblin is pretty spiffy. Would be spiffier if the glider could disconnect from the smoke funnel, but that's a fairly minor complaint. It's head and shoulders above the pile of mediocrity that is the Marvel Select Spider-Man, whose biggest selling point is that it is, in fact, a Spider-Man.
ComicsMilan
07-12-2012, 02:14 PM
The Green Goblin was, is and always will be my favorite Spidey villain. I've always particularly liked his weapons, as a character he is very fascinating too.
Aziz Abbasi
07-13-2012, 10:20 AM
Never been so big on him before Thunderbolts, or maybe Marvel Knights Spider-Man
Iron Patriot made me a huge fan, and made him my favorite Marvel villain
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