The ...Most Powerful JEWS !

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Its time to basically admit , the Jews have more power than we can possibly imagine. Was it not Mel Gibson on his 1st crazy train who said that the "Jews run Hollywood" ? So of course he was right. Mel knew where the power was .

I mean when we think of POWER we have to think of the 1st powerful one. One who in the 1970's ruled Hollywood and destroyed any who laid in his path. He also bedded a hot Mia Farrow back in the day before ...ya know.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j309/nosmosis/allen-woody.jpg

Woody Allen would stomp anyone back in the day in his films. Winning praise . He once made Warren Beatty walk off a movie because he dared to try and get better screen time. Beatty learned that Woody Allen was the most powerful Jew walking then.

Allen even today has so much power he made American Apparel suck it in court. They had built a huge billboard with Allen dressed from Annie Hall. Of course this pissed off Allen who told em...take it down. Faster than you can say Hebrow Hammer....

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q291/DF-redsox4eva/hebrew_hammer_02.jpg (not this guy)

It went into court. Allen was like...you shall see who is the most powerful Dov Charney. And strutting around in your underwear in front of your staff won't help you this time ! Allen won $5 million bucks in court and Charney's briefs were never admitted in court.

Of course Allen is not the only powerful one now. No....there are others. Ones who personally stomp ass and destroy on a physical level.


http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/pochodg/billgoldberg234.jpg

Bill Goldberg. The man would need a police escort out. Because the man was a BEAST and would destroy. Hell ...he even breathed fire !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeHu2JxpqQQ

No one stood in Goldberg's path of destruction and kicking ass. Woody would have been proud to see Goldberg spear and jackhammer everyone who crossed him.

The Rock , Hulk Hogan , HHH ...it didn't matter. You messed with the wrong Jew on this day !

Even though Goldberg has retired and is gone , we still have to be in awe of his greatness. Maybe one day Goldberg and Woody Allen will team up and Goldberg can kick ass on screen !

[Karl O'Neill]

Jonah Hill.
He is an awesome jew.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Jonah Hill.
He is an awesome jew.

Only a very powerful Jew could get Aldous Snow to the Greek on time !

[Gryphon]

Peter David is an awesome jew.

[Gryphon]

As was Jack Kirby.

[Gryphon]

And since you mentioned a wrestler, Raven and Randy Savage.

[thwhtGuardian]

And since you mentioned a wrestler, Raven and Randy Savage.

The Macho Man was a Jew? Man, I'd love to go celebrate passover or something with that guy.

[Gryphon]

The Macho Man was a Jew? Man, I'd love to go celebrate passover or something with that guy.

I was also surprised to find out about his jewish heritage.

[mikekerrIII]

Its time to basically admit , the Jews have more power than we can possibly imagine. Was it not Mel Gibson on his 1st crazy train who said that the "Jews run Hollywood" ? So of course he was right. Mel knew where the power was .

I mean when we think of POWER we have to think of the 1st powerful one. One who in the 1970's ruled Hollywood and destroyed any who laid in his path. He also bedded a hot Mia Farrow back in the day before ...ya know.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j309/nosmosis/allen-woody.jpg

Woody Allen would stomp anyone back in the day in his films. Winning praise . He once made Warren Beatty walk off a movie because he dared to try and get better screen time. Beatty learned that Woody Allen was the most powerful Jew walking then.

Allen even today has so much power he made American Apparel suck it in court. They had built a huge billboard with Allen dressed from Annie Hall. Of course this pissed off Allen who told em...take it down. Faster than you can say Hebrow Hammer....

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q291/DF-redsox4eva/hebrew_hammer_02.jpg (not this guy)

It went into court. Allen was like...you shall see who is the most powerful Dov Charney. And strutting around in your underwear in front of your staff won't help you this time ! Allen won $5 million bucks in court and Charney's briefs were never admitted in court.

Of course Allen is not the only powerful one now. No....there are others. Ones who personally stomp ass and destroy on a physical level.


http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/pochodg/billgoldberg234.jpg

Bill Goldberg. The man would need a police escort out. Because the man was a BEAST and would destroy. Hell ...he even breathed fire !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeHu2JxpqQQ

No one stood in Goldberg's path of destruction and kicking ass. Woody would have been proud to see Goldberg spear and jackhammer everyone who crossed him.

The Rock , Hulk Hogan , HHH ...it didn't matter. You messed with the wrong Jew on this day !

Even though Goldberg has retired and is gone , we still have to be in awe of his greatness. Maybe one day Goldberg and Woody Allen will team up and Goldberg can kick ass on screen !

The first one, the Names Goldwyn and Mayer don't mean anything to you? Check out who were the heads of the major studios when the studios were king.

[Paradox]

Bow before her Imperial hotness, Princess Natalie Hershlag! :tongue:

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/natalie-portman-nude.jpg

[Professor Goldfish]

William. Shatner.


That is all.

[worstblogever]

George Soros and his media empire. Which, I respect the guy even more for making Glenn Beck go crazy (http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-beck-accuses-george-soros-of-helping-send-the-jews-to-the-death-camps/
) (well, crazier) and claim he's a "puppet master".

And while we're at it, America's new most trusted newsman, John Stewart, for his work on the Daily Show deserves a shout out. Y'know, for proving Beck is full of crap (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/epic-jon-stewart-turns-glenn-becks-george-soros-conspiracies-on-glenn-beck/).

[StoneGold]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_O77H8uEpKrU/RonjjFAUtBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/tTCBUSEocNM/s320/Jewish+Optimus+Prime.bmp

[Typo Lad]

This thread can Only End Well.

[buchananjames12]

Hitler had a lot of power.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

This thread can Only End Well.

It will with pics like this...


Bow before her Imperial hotness, Princess Natalie Hershlag! :tongue:

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/natalie-portman-nude.jpg

[Pinball]

This guy, maybe?

http://louisebowmanonline.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/buddy_christ.jpg

[Captain Clarkie]

Jews, Shmews.

[Paradox]

Shmoos are Jewish? :confused:

http://deniskitchen.com/docs/bios/bios.shmoo.bw.jpg

[Pinball]

Jesus was a Schmoo?












...so that's why we eat his body and drink his blood!

[The Black Guardian]

Shmoos are Jewish? :confused:

http://deniskitchen.com/docs/bios/bios.shmoo.bw.jpg
Well, his "daddy" was Jewish-- Al Capp. Don't know about his mom.

[Captain Clarkie]

Shmoos are Jewish? :confused:

http://deniskitchen.com/docs/bios/bios.shmoo.bw.jpg

This brings up enough nostalgia to sing, if I remember correctly. "It's the new Shmoo, the incredible Shmoo, it's the new Shmoo, and the incredible Shmoo loves you!"

[Gryphon]

George Soros and his media empire. Which, I respect the guy even more for making Glenn Beck go crazy (http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-beck-accuses-george-soros-of-helping-send-the-jews-to-the-death-camps/
) (well, crazier) and claim he's a "puppet master".

Jew by ethnicity only. I highly doubt that he considers himself Jewish in any way.

[ChadH]

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx133/ChadH_01/imi-military.jpg
Imi Lichtenfeld. The man who created Krav Maga for the Israeli military.

[Typo Lad]

"Without the groin, there is no Krav Maga."

So true little girl, so very true.

[ChadH]

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx133/ChadH_01/Simmons.jpg
They call him Doctor Love....

[doolbnoom]

definately jesus, he spawned three religions and most of the world's misery and war revolves around him and his "father". that's why i believe in nothing...

i'd love to see goldberg return to wrestling, in tna, not the ultra-crappy wwe, ugh! goldberg vs. a.j styles or samoa joe.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

definately jesus, he spawned three religions and most of the world's misery and war revolves around him and his "father". that's why i believe in nothing...

i'd love to see goldberg return to wrestling, in tna, not the ultra-crappy wwe, ugh! goldberg vs. a.j styles or samoa joe.

Goldberg did have talks with the WWE back months ago saying he wanted his son to see him wrestle again. But its been said Goldberg feels his age (43/44) and health (his knees/back) are issues. He won't come back its likely. He's pricing himself at a high price for this reason.

TNA and Spike TV did have talks with him a year or 2 ago. But Goldberg wants a big price to come back. ($1+ million a year as reported)

[Indigo Al]

What about The Seraph? He can call upon G-d to smite bank robbers and supervillains!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18474/369557-5464-seraph_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/5464-seraph/105-369557/)

[StoneGold]

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx133/ChadH_01/imi-military.jpg
Imi Lichtenfeld. The man who created Krav Maga for the Israeli military.

Speaking of which, the inspiration for Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. Or at least, the reason he has an eyepatch.

http://www.historama.com/online-resources/idf-israel-defense-forces-tzahal/israeli_army_idf_chief_staff_moshe_dayan_1953.jpg

Also Stan, Jack, Jerry, Joe, Eisner, Finger, Kane, Gaines, Weisenger, Schwartz... Well, you get the idea.

[Gumbo Maximillian]

Hitler had a lot of power.

To be fair; he was only part jew, might as well throw him under a list of "The Most Powerful Black People" as well.

Be just as legitimate.

[RolandJP]

To be fair; he was only part jew, might as well throw him under a list of "The Most Powerful Black People" as well.

Be just as legitimate.

Well King David and Solomon loved them some Black Women. So who knows.


In the Torah, the sons of Moses, Gershom and Eliezer, by his wife Zipporah daughter of the Midianite priest Jethro, are Jews. Within the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible), The Book of Ruth relates the story of a Gentile woman married to a Jewish man, whose children are considered Jewish.


Jew by faith or by blood?? All i know is Abraham left his people and became a nation by faith not by blood. The covenant of a circumcision is the physical expression of faith. Esau did not get the inheritance even tho he was the twin brother of Jacob.


The Mishnah (Kiddushin 3:12) states that, to be a Jew, one must be either the child of a Jewish mother or a convert to Judaism, (ger tzedek, "righteous convert"). The Talmud (Kiddushin 68b) derives this law from the Torah, specifically Deuteronomy 7:3-4

[dupersuper]

Siegel
Schuster
Kirby

Isn't Ray Palmer Jewish? I know Thing and Batwoman are...

[pariah-1972]

Seinfeld.....

[Duy]

http://media.comicmix.com/media/2009/04/10/nl22jan1972b.gif

Close the thread.

[Aziz Abbasi]

How do you define power for this thread? Specific field power? Or power in general?
Hitler is part Jewish, why loathe Jews the way he did?

[Iangould]

Jew by ethnicity only. I highly doubt that he considers himself Jewish in any way.

Really, why?

[Iangould]

We killed a God.

Do not fuck with us.

[Iangould]

How do you define power for this thread? Specific field power? Or power in general?
Hitler is part Jewish, why loathe Jews the way he did?

There's no real evidence that Hitler was part-Jewish.

It was a rumor put about by rivals within the Nazi Party before he'd cemented his total control.

There's more evidence that he was part-Gypsy - which as far as the Nazis were concerned was just as bad.

[Typo Lad]

What about The Seraph? He can call upon G-d to smite bank robbers and supervillains!


Ladies and Gentlemen, the Jewish Ebony White!


Speaking of which, the inspiration for Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. Or at least, the reason he has an eyepatch.

http://www.historama.com/online-resources/idf-israel-defense-forces-tzahal/israeli_army_idf_chief_staff_moshe_dayan_1953.jpg

That's Moshe Dayan, not Imi Lichtenfeld. Different dudes.

[QUOTE=Gumbo Maximillian;12266754]To be fair; he was only part jew, might as well throw him under a list of "The Most Powerful Black People" as well.

Be just as legitimate.

As Ian points out, Hitler being part Jewish gets thrown around a lot, with little to back it up.


Well King David and Solomon loved them some Black Women. So who knows.

Not just them. "White" Jews are a recent thing.

"In the Torah, the sons of Moses, Gershom and Eliezer, by his wife Zipporah daughter of the Midianite priest Jethro, are Jews."

Except Yisro (forgive me, but I use the names phonetically) was the first post-Revelation at Sinai convert, and even prior to that had been preaching Monotheism. Tzipporah wouldn't have needed to convert pre-Revelation at Sinai as far as I know, but there are tons of Midrashim (extra-textual sources) about Moshe [Moses] actually being "dinged" for marrying her, and that he had to convert his kids.

Interestingly, despite her being Midyani, her sister-in-law Miriam later refers to her as a "Cushite Woman" (Cush-Ethiopian), so either Moshe had another wife, or Miriam was punished for being a bigot.


Within the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible), The Book of Ruth relates the story of a Gentile woman married to a Jewish man, whose children are considered Jewish.

Sefer Rus is the story of a Convert. The entire point of the story is to establish the legitimacy of the Davidic Monarchy, which was descended from Rus and Boaz. Prior to that, it was believed that Moavites could not convert to Judaism (due to the origins of the tribe, plus some other long history). Rus initially converts to Judaism to marry her first husband, living in Moav, but that conversion isn't considered valid (as it was just for marriage). It is later, when her mother-in-law all but tries to cast her aside and she insists on staying by her side, that her conversion is argued as valid. Later, when Boaz approaches the alternate "redeemer" at the gate, the discussion they have is basically "Dude, she's from Moav!" "Yeah, but it's only the men." "Is it? Okay man, but you marry her. I'm not ready to be the first".


Jew by faith or by blood?? All i know is Abraham left his people and became a nation by faith not by blood.

And despite being called "the first Monothiest", he was not. Noah's son Shem is said to have been "the high priest of G-d" and is often identified with Malkitzedek. The difference is that Avrohom was the first believer in G-d (according to the Torah), to come to discover G-d on his own, rather than being born into it (like Shem's son, Ever), and further, his proselytizing.

Avrohom had hundreds of followers. They'd all have to have pseudo-converted in.


The covenant of a circumcision is the physical expression of faith.

Actually, it's supposed to be the physical expression of man's end of the Contract With G-d, which is why the name for it is "Bris", which means "Covenant". By marking our flesh, we're saying "I agree to follow these rules, and my son will as well".


Esau did not get the inheritance even tho he was the twin brother of Jacob.

Esav (never got how that became a U) did indeed not get it, but that's because he sold the rights. Also, because their mom totally took Yaakov's side. Plus, there's the fact that a cold reading of the blessings of each child (because Esav did get a blessing), shows that he still got a pretty good deal.


The Mishnah (Kiddushin 3:12) states that, to be a Jew, one must be either the child of a Jewish mother or a convert to Judaism, (ger tzedek, "righteous convert").

There are a few other forms of Ger as well.


The Talmud (Kiddushin 68b) derives this law from the Torah, specifically Deuteronomy 7:3-4

Indeed. And we learn out other things on the laws of Geirut from Rus.



Isn't Ray Palmer Jewish? I know Thing and Batwoman are...

Some web site somewhere says Ray Palmer is. I don't think it's ever been formally expressed in the comics.

The Thing's transition from "he's really an analogue for Jack Kirby" to "He's Jewish" kind of saddens me, for some silly reason. One was a very specific mindset, and the other is just "Oh yeah, he was totally Jewish the whole time, even when he was celebrating Chistmass. Oh and he grew up with a Jewish identity of some sort, but didn't know what Chanukah was."

???

[Iangould]

The Thing's transition from "he's really an analogue for Jack Kirby" to "He's Jewish" kind of saddens me, for some silly reason. One was a very specific mindset, and the other is just "Oh yeah, he was totally Jewish the whole time, even when he was celebrating Chistmass. Oh and he grew up with a Jewish identity of some sort, but didn't know what Chanukah was."



There's a Kirby drawing from the 60's where Ben wishes the Bullpen a Happy Hanakkah.

For me, that's enough to establish that Kirby always intended Ben Grimm to be Jewish.

[Iangould]

This is from 1976 but it makes it pretty clear that at least by that date, Kirby thought Ben was clearly Jewish:


http://www.littlestuffedbull.com/images/comics/365bengrimm/bengrimm1211.jpg

[Typo Lad]

There's a Kirby drawing from the 60's where Ben wishes the Bullpen a Happy Hanakkah.


So if anything, the "the Thing Learns About Chanukah" story is more annoying.



For me, that's enough to establish that Kirby always intended Ben Grimm to be Jewish.

But did he intend it beyond "The Thing is me, and I'm Jewish, so Ben is too, wink wink" or was it meant to be an in-story thing? That's the nubbin.

[Iangould]

I don't have a huge problem with the idea that circa-1960 Ben Grimm was a nominal Jew with little real attachment to his faith but that he later developed a greater appreciation for it.

And that 1976 drawing is now officially one of my favorite-ever Kirby drawings.

[Typo Lad]

I don't have a huge problem with the idea that circa-1960 Ben Grimm was a nominal Jew with little real attachment to his faith but that he later developed a greater appreciation for it.

That'd be great if it were in-story, but he goes from being totally unafilliated (which I'd buy), to knowing nothing about Chanukah in the 1990s (despite living in NY!? Even Non-Jews here know what Chanukah is), to having grown up going to synagogue and remembering how to say Kadish?

I guess it's just the typical fanboyish wish for some conistancy.

Edit: I take that back. It was the Thing's BVar Mitzvah, not Ben's. That's... kinda cute.

[Iangould]

"Beneath the wisecracks and testosterone, Remembrance of Things Past is a surprisingly rich tale of religious and class guilt. Grimm feels remorse both over his past as a young hoodlum and over escaping the poverty and hopelessness of his old neighborhood--a stroke of luck that eluded his neighborhood chums. "

link (http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Thing.html)

Boy, can I identify with that.

I no longer make make visits to incarcerated relatives, apart from anything else, were I to do, it wouldn't leave me time for much else.

[Gryphon]

Really, why?

Ill send you a PM in a while, explaining why.

[StoneGold]

That's Moshe Dayan, not Imi Lichtenfeld. Different dudes.



Yes, I know. But he was the inspiration for Fury's eyepatch. Which is badass.

[StoneGold]

That'd be great if it were in-story, but he goes from being totally unafilliated (which I'd buy), to knowing nothing about Chanukah in the 1990s (despite living in NY!? Even Non-Jews here know what Chanukah is), to having grown up going to synagogue and remembering how to say Kadish?

I guess it's just the typical fanboyish wish for some conistancy.

Edit: I take that back. It was the Thing's BVar Mitzvah, not Ben's. That's... kinda cute.

He also fought in WWII, according to the original stories. Some shit, you just gotta ignore.

[ChadH]

[QUOTE=Typo Lad;12267661]



http://www.historama.com/online-resources/idf-israel-defense-forces-tzahal/israeli_army_idf_chief_staff_moshe_dayan_1953.jpg

That's Moshe Dayan, not Imi Lichtenfeld. Different dudes.



QUOTE]
Sorry, I was a victim of misinformation perpetrated by the fine folks at:
http://kravdirectory.com/founder.html
And also:
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/lichtenfeld.html
As well as:
http://www.usadojo.com/biographies/imi-lichtenfeld.htm

[StoneGold]

[QUOTE=Typo Lad;12267661]



http://www.historama.com/online-resources/idf-israel-defense-forces-tzahal/israeli_army_idf_chief_staff_moshe_dayan_1953.jpg

That's Moshe Dayan, not Imi Lichtenfeld. Different dudes.



QUOTE]
Sorry, I was a victim of misinformation perpetrated by the fine folks at:
http://kravdirectory.com/founder.html
And also:
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/lichtenfeld.html
As well as:
http://www.usadojo.com/biographies/imi-lichtenfeld.htm

There's like a three way confusion here. I was taking your example of Israeli military badass and giving another example. You are correct in everything that you said. As is Typo, but he missed the point of what I was doing.

[ChadH]

[QUOTE=ChadH;12269905]

There's like a three way confusion here. I was taking your example of Israeli military badass and giving another example. You are correct in everything that you said. As is Typo, but he missed the point of what I was doing.
Yeah, I get it now. :redface:

[RolandJP]

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=12267661&postcount=40




awesome stuff. Shalom baby

[Indigo Al]

Ladies and Gentlemen, the Jewish Ebony White!


Why do you think so? Is he really the equivalent of Ebony?

[Typo Lad]

[QUOTE=ChadH;12269905]

There's like a three way confusion here. I was taking your example of Israeli military badass and giving another example. You are correct in everything that you said. As is Typo, but he missed the point of what I was doing.

I figured it out. Your picture didn't show in my browser, so I thought you were saying Lichtfeld was also the inspiration.


Why do you think so? Is he really the equivalent of Ebony?

Maybe not equivalent, since it's not the same sort of offensive... but it would be like having your only acknowledged Christian character have the power to turn water to wine, etc. It's just very "what are the Jewiest things we can think of?"

I do like that they eventually hinted he was gay, too. That's awesome.

[Indigo Al]

Maybe not equivalent, since it's not the same sort of offensive... but it would be like having your only acknowledged Christian character have the power to turn water to wine, etc. It's just very "what are the Jewiest things we can think of?"

I do like that they eventually hinted he was gay, too. That's awesome.

Oh wow. I only remember him from the old SuperFriends comic - never read Global Guardians. I think one of those SuperFriends issues even had a solo backstory about a terrorist bombing.

Yeah, I can see your point, although to me he came across as a sort-of myth hero in the vein of Thor, Isis or Captain Marvel (obviously nowhere near as good as those characters).

[Typo Lad]

Oh wow. I only remember him from the old SuperFriends comic - never read Global Guardians. I think one of those SuperFriends issues even had a solo backstory about a terrorist bombing.

Yeah, I can see your point, although to me he came across as a sort-of myth hero in the vein of Thor, Isis or Captain Marvel (obviously nowhere near as good as those characters).

Honestly? Had it been just one powerful artifact, or a Captain Marvel like dealie, that'd be cool.

Part of it was the pile on of Jewyness.