Was There Ever A Time When The X-Men Have Been More Disfunctional Than They Are Now?

[ProfeZZor X]

This is not to say that the X-Men are completely unhinged and operating without any direction, but they have certainly seen better times and seemed to have a better grasp on things. For the most part they seem to be on the right track to recovery, but there's still a sense of disorganization as a whole. And by all means this is not a pot shot at it's current leadership, but rather a deeper observation into the entire organization.

Scott recently appointed Bobby to act as a liason between the X-Men and a well-known super hero public relations firm, in hopes of bettering their image in the public light. But with the recent activities they've been conducting with political prisoners, self sacrafices, and secret death squads, it's kind of hard to win the hearts of society.

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With that said, do you foresee a way for the X-Men to get back on track of being the influential powerhouses they once were in society (in the comics)?

[fod_xp]

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With that said, do you foresee a way for the X-Men to get back on track of being the influential powerhouses they once were in society (in the comics

The pink haired girl with that's not Blink is using a Farscape pulse pistol, I recognize that design anywhere.

[Daniel Mengsk]

"Was There Ever A Time When The X-Men Have Been More Disfunctional Than They Are Now?"


Scott recently appointed Bobby to act as a liason between the X-Men and a well-known super hero public relations firm

I see your point.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Around 86-87, actually.

Storm's team was off the grid (later on in pretty bad shape), X-Factor were busy doing that really weird bounty hunter thingy and Magneto was heading the Institute. In hindsight, pretty bad PR management.

I guess it beats the riots from Utopia, but it sure as hell doesn't beat the current status-quo. Or even the one from Fraction's Pre-Utopia issues.

[Smoothesuede]

The first step is that M-Day needs to be reversed. Whether that happens in Gen. Hope, or Children's Crusade or something else, that's the hot ticket to paradise.

No more "survival is all that matters" mentality, no more hostile political prisoners and isolationist defense-minded tactics. They can go out and be heroes again, rather than staunch guardians of an exclusive club with dwindling, yet zealous membership.
What they are now is not necessarily a bad thing, entertainmentwise, but I agree it destroys their reputation with the public completely.

Once we get more mutants, things will ease up. After that, they just need to reintegrate into the public consciousness. Not move back to the mainlans, per se, but they definitely need to save some more civilians from falling buildings in the future.

[DevilishRogue]

X-Men used to be disfunctional in a endearing way now they are in a way I wish to smack em' around or shake them violently.

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Most of these people seem to have made an effort (the Juggernaut costume in particular is hilarious), but check out the guy who thinks simply holding cards in his hands makes him Gambit. The laziest piece of cosplay I've ever seen.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Juggernaut as interpreted by Grimace.

[Ex_]

It has been a lot more dissheveled than it is lately.

Shit, there's a relatively strong amount of cohesion with the X-Men of late.

[timbox]

My aunt is dysfunctional. Excuse me if I find this offensive.

[ProfeZZor X]

Juggernaut as interpreted by Grimace.

...Or

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[Skaddix]

Man the x-men really are on hard times.

[ryuluddy]

The books seem to be the problem. There will always be trouble in X-land, but the books make this trouble convoluted by having zero direction.

If there isn't a big, multi-title crossover, X-books have been blah.

At least there always seemed to be a direction in the past. But now, it seems like the X-writers are just finding ways to revive dead villians, or forgotten villians and throw them all together.

I am confused as to what the X-men are fighting for these days?

[Ex_]

The books seem to be the problem. There will always be trouble in X-land, but the books make this trouble convoluted by having zero direction.

If there isn't a big, multi-title crossover, X-books have been blah.

At least there always seemed to be a direction in the past. But now, it seems like the X-writers are just finding ways to revive dead villians, or forgotten villians and throw them all together.

I am confused as to what the X-men are fighting for these days?
Survival?

There's more of a freaking direction now than there ever has been. Now there's a clear tangible purpose: protect the Lights, restore mutantkind.

[Skaddix]

Survival?

There's more of a freaking direction now than there ever has been. Now there's a clear tangible purpose: protect the Hope sacrifice the lights if necessary and restore mutantkind.

let me make some corrections. Still its a long road to restoration, Hope is a lazy messiah five new mutants is a drop in the bucket.

[Ex_]

You're right: plenty of story potential for the future right there.

[ryuluddy]

Really? You buy survival. I'm sure Marvel is going to cut off it's easiest way to make super heros. Not too mention they aren't going to kill off all the mutants.

That's a dumb and unlikely idea. Survival. It just seems tacked on and anyone can see through it. Mutants, and the X-men, they aren't going anywhere. This whole survival story is bogus. It served it's purpose and has limited the ridiculous amount of super powerful mutants.

All it does now is serve as a stand by story. There will never not be mutants in the Marvel Universe.

[worstblogever]

The end of Austen, beginning of Milligan was the most dysfunctional, from where I'm sitting.


Iceman and Nurse Annie taking turns calling each other bigots before boning.
Husk having sex with Warren in the air over Ma Guthrie.
Juggernaut being the main role model on campus to the young students (REALLY?).
Polaris cutting up Nurse Annie.
Havok leaving Polaris at the altar, and her going ballistic.
Nightcrawler nearly being brainwashed to become pope.
Havok peeing on Iceman's head.
Havok/Iceman/Polaris love triangle.
Gambit/Rogue/Mystique love triangle.
Onyxx trying to force himself on Mystique.
1 in 5 main team members becoming Horsemen of Apocalypse.
Golgotha arc where everyone went nuts.



I mean, that was the time everybody was dysfunctional as hell.

[ProfeZZor X]

The end of Austen, beginning of Milligan was the most dysfunctional, from where I'm sitting.


Iceman and Nurse Annie taking turns calling each other bigots before boning.
Husk having sex with Warren in the air over Ma Guthrie.
Juggernaut being the main role model on campus to the young students (REALLY?).
Polaris cutting up Nurse Annie.
Havok leaving Polaris at the altar, and her going ballistic.
Nightcrawler nearly being brainwashed to become pope.
Havok peeing on Iceman's head.
Havok/Iceman/Polaris love triangle.
Gambit/Rogue/Mystique love triangle.
Onyxx trying to force himself on Mystique.
1 in 5 main team members becoming Horsemen of Apocalypse.
Golgotha arc where everyone went nuts.



I mean, that was the time everybody was dysfunctional as hell.

I seriously have to agree with you on that era... What a messed up time it was for the X-Men... And I believe secondary mutations follow shortly after that.

[Regino]

They seem pretty cohesive to me.

[fod_xp]

The end of Austen, beginning of Milligan was the most dysfunctional, from where I'm sitting.


Iceman and Nurse Annie taking turns calling each other bigots before boning.
Husk having sex with Warren in the air over Ma Guthrie.
Juggernaut being the main role model on campus to the young students (REALLY?).
Polaris cutting up Nurse Annie.
Havok leaving Polaris at the altar, and her going ballistic.
Nightcrawler nearly being brainwashed to become pope.
Havok peeing on Iceman's head.
Havok/Iceman/Polaris love triangle.
Gambit/Rogue/Mystique love triangle.
Onyxx trying to force himself on Mystique.
1 in 5 main team members becoming Horsemen of Apocalypse.
Golgotha arc where everyone went nuts.



I mean, that was the time everybody was dysfunctional as hell.

O.M.G.!!!! That sounds frikken' HEE-LAIR-EE-US!!! I want to track down those TPBs and read those "dysfunctional" stories! From my point of view that an Epic WIN load of LULZ served with a heaping bowl of "KICK ASS DAY TIME SOAP OPERA MELODRAMA!!!!!!"

Sounds like both these fine men were worthy successors to Morrison's New X-Men franchise reboot!

[DevilishRogue]

Most of these people seem to have made an effort (the Juggernaut costume in particular is hilarious), but check out the guy who thinks simply holding cards in his hands makes him Gambit. The laziest piece of cosplay I've ever seen.

I think he is going for more of a goth Gambit. I think he pulls it off brilliantly.

[CryoFlare]

I seriously have to agree with you on that era... What a messed up time it was for the X-Men... And I believe secondary mutations follow shortly after that.

I think all that Secondary Mutation mumbo jumbo was going on at the same time as all that.

[Ex_]

Really? You buy survival. I'm sure Marvel is going to cut off it's easiest way to make super heros. Not too mention they aren't going to kill off all the mutants.

That's a dumb and unlikely idea. Survival. It just seems tacked on and anyone can see through it. Mutants, and the X-men, they aren't going anywhere. This whole survival story is bogus. It served it's purpose and has limited the ridiculous amount of super powerful mutants.

All it does now is serve as a stand by story. There will never not be mutants in the Marvel Universe.
All I'm hearing is "I don't believe the good guys will die at the end." No shit, genius.

I know that Kang isn't going to break the time stream and destroy all of existence, but I can still enjoy a classic Avengers story.

[matthewaos]

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There are two Wolverines on the photo! That's why he is one every team!


The end of Austen, beginning of Milligan was the most dysfunctional, from where I'm sitting.

But if you sit somewhere else?

[Aguja]

Without Jean they are nothing. She brings normalcy to their lunacy.

[DevilishRogue]

The end of Austen, beginning of Milligan was the most dysfunctional, from where I'm sitting.


Iceman and Nurse Annie taking turns calling each other bigots before boning.
Husk having sex with Warren in the air over Ma Guthrie.
Juggernaut being the main role model on campus to the young students (REALLY?).
Polaris cutting up Nurse Annie.
Havok leaving Polaris at the altar, and her going ballistic.
Nightcrawler nearly being brainwashed to become pope.
Havok peeing on Iceman's head.
Havok/Iceman/Polaris love triangle.
Gambit/Rogue/Mystique love triangle.
Onyxx trying to force himself on Mystique.
1 in 5 main team members becoming Horsemen of Apocalypse.
Golgotha arc where everyone went nuts.



I mean, that was the time everybody was dysfunctional as hell.

I remember having a real hard time introducing new readers in this period.

[Foxx5]

Why don't they make specific teams in each book and make them have there own stories, stop cross-over crap for awhile. If they do that Hopefully the creative teams behind the books could actually focus and knowing there charcters and plot out a good story.

Also spread the X-Men around a bit, seems they are always together. get them more global. What happen to Muir Island and where the Hell is the Professor?

At least X-Force is staioned in AZ

[ProfeZZor X]

There are two Wolverines on the photo! That's why he is one every team!

One of them is Dark Wolverine... :wink:

[Foon4000]

The period after Seagle and Kelly left and before Morrison started was disfunctional to the point where it was unreadable. I know I was asking myself why this bunch of dicks were all in the same room together.

[ryuluddy]

Why don't they make specific teams in each book and make them have there own stories, stop cross-over crap for awhile. If they do that Hopefully the creative teams behind the books could actually focus and knowing there charcters and plot out a good story.

Also spread the X-Men around a bit, seems they are always together. get them more global. What happen to Muir Island and where the Hell is the Professor?

At least X-Force is staioned in AZ


Voice of reason! I agree, I want some diversity in X-books. Make me feel like I'm reading a different story, but still X-related. Define teams, define directions and spread out.

[ryuluddy]

All I'm hearing is "I don't believe the good guys will die at the end." No shit, genius.

I know that Kang isn't going to break the time stream and destroy all of existence, but I can still enjoy a classic Avengers story.

And all I hear you saying is, "survival is the direction, but they won't die."

Wow, you're right, your position is much better. At least there were better threats, stories and use of characters prior to the, "survival of the species," banner. What have they been flying that for 6-7 years now. Tired. And just lazy writing that doesn't try and give a better less indefinite direction. Every story arc seems to revolve around, survival, with no advancement made in that direction.

So you say, "survival," is the direction, but you know they won't die. I'm stupid for saying I don't buy the survival direction?