Fallout New Vegas: Review and discussion thread

[Silver Knight]

I just go my copy of New Vegas yesterday and all ready im addicted. Bought the limited edition naturally, well worth the price. The making of DVD is simular to the developer diaries on youtube but goes into a greater length about stoyr, design, etc.

Gameplay is surprisingly simular, I found myself picking up the controls right off the bat. The addition of true iron sights makes shoofting from first person not only wholely enjoyable but sometimes a nessecity.

I have only two complaints thus far (11 hours in) In Fallout 3 the amount of times a skill came up for special dialog was very few and far between, and by that time you probably had the skill. New Vegas is designed so that they come up more frequently, and sometimes you have to be highly specialized.

For example: Early in the game I was tasked with asking someone for some help, trouble was since i didnt specialize in explosives I couldnt use the check. Its a bit more helpful that it says if you can make the check or not but still. I mean early in game did they think people would specialize in medicine, lockpicking, barter, and explosives? Explosives I can understand, but theres so many other things. My main skills are Guns, Science, speech, sneak, and a minor in lockpicking. Science and speece are good tools but again you have to be extremely specialized if you want to use it.

My second is pacing. In Fallout three your free to explore and do things at your lesiure, skipping the story entirely if you desired. While in New Vegas it can be said you have that to a certian extent, they seem to guide you to the path they want. Your stuck with pretty lame guns for hours, also ammo is super scarce so i ended up hording ammo like crazy. Not only that but they purposefully block the faster way to New Vegas. Well block is a strong term, Impossible is better.

Just north of the mining camp Sloan a heard of Deathclaws has taken over the area including the mine. Thats right, a heard. Now imagine your lvl 3 and only have a couple starting weapons, you think you can take on a death claw with a p.o.s. rifle and a single shot shotgun? Much less a heard? Immpossible. Minor grip is enimes seem to be alot tougher and harder to take down and the ants(fortunitly not fire ants) and radscorpions are very numerous and in the rad scorpions case very tough.

Other than those minor issues Fallout New Vegas looks to be better than Fallout3 and well on its way to becoming my personal Game of the Year.


Anymore details just ask. Tried to avoid any spoilers.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

I just go my copy of New Vegas yesterday and all ready im addicted. Bought the limited edition naturally, well worth the price. The making of DVD is simular to the developer diaries on youtube but goes into a greater length about stoyr, design, etc.

Gameplay is surprisingly simular, I found myself picking up the controls right off the bat. The addition of true iron sights makes shoofting from first person not only wholely enjoyable but sometimes a nessecity.

I have only two complaints thus far (11 hours in) In Fallout 3 the amount of times a skill came up for special dialog was very few and far between, and by that time you probably had the skill. New Vegas is designed so that they come up more frequently, and sometimes you have to be highly specialized.

For example: Early in the game I was tasked with asking someone for some help, trouble was since i didnt specialize in explosives I couldnt use the check. Its a bit more helpful that it says if you can make the check or not but still. I mean early in game did they think people would specialize in medicine, lockpicking, barter, and explosives? Explosives I can understand, but theres so many other things. My main skills are Guns, Science, speech, sneak, and a minor in lockpicking. Science and speece are good tools but again you have to be extremely specialized if you want to use it.

My second is pacing. In Fallout three your free to explore and do things at your lesiure, skipping the story entirely if you desired. While in New Vegas it can be said you have that to a certian extent, they seem to guide you to the path they want. Your stuck with pretty lame guns for hours, also ammo is super scarce so i ended up hording ammo like crazy. Not only that but they purposefully block the faster way to New Vegas. Well block is a strong term, Impossible is better.

Just north of the mining camp Sloan a heard of Deathclaws has taken over the area including the mine. Thats right, a heard. Now imagine your lvl 3 and only have a couple starting weapons, you think you can take on a death claw with a p.o.s. rifle and a single shot shotgun? Much less a heard? Immpossible. Minor grip is enimes seem to be alot tougher and harder to take down and the ants(fortunitly not fire ants) and radscorpions are very numerous and in the rad scorpions case very tough.

Other than those minor issues Fallout New Vegas looks to be better than Fallout3 and well on its way to becoming my personal Game of the Year.


Anymore details just ask. Tried to avoid any spoilers.

Good review so far, man.

In your opinion, is the start better or worse than FO3?

[jesse_custer]

I had a good laugh when I saw that 10 Perception makes you an eagle with a telescope.

[Chris S.]

I posted this in the other thread but this might be the more appropriate place:

Is anyone running it on a console?

I'm back and forth on this. It sounds like something I would definitely enjoy as I fell into Fallout 3 and took forever to fall out. However, it sounds like I'd get frustrated with the glitches. Also with Fable 3 coming out next week I think I'd be better off waiting for this to come out on a game of the year edition or something with all the DLC. Hopefully by then the glitches will be fixed.

[Alex]

3 hours in, it feels more like Fallout 3 than Fallout 3, if that makes sense.
And for a game made by Obsidian and Bethesda, im shocked at how few bugs i have found. Which is to say i have only noticed like 5 things not work correctly, instead of the 50000000 i expected to go wrong.

[dividebyZero]

Better than Fallout 3 is good. Because at the time I didn't think anything could beat Fallout 3.

I bet I'll like this game no matter what just because I'm so into Fallout. But has anyone played it for the PS3?

[Astonishing X-Fan]

I disagree with both of your complaints. I think it's a GOOD thing that you can't just have one character be abe to pursue every option/dialogue choice. I like the fact that specialization matters here, and that I can't just be good at everything.

I also like the fact that, whie you can go anywhere, certain places are way harder to travel to/through than others. In FO3, things just scaled to your level, so there was no risk in travel. Now you always have to be wary of stumbling into a place that you can't handle. Makes the wasteand more dangerous and unpredictable.

I like having to work more for the good stuff, too.

[sHayden]

3 hours in, it feels more like Fallout 3 than Fallout 3, if that makes sense.


As a fan of the originals, that statement makes complete and total sense!

I'm only a couple hours into the game, and am enjoying it. In fact I only have one complaint. My favorite part of #3 was the soundtrack, in this one...no thanks.

[FalconX2000]

I disagree with both of your complaints. I think it's a GOOD thing that you can't just have one character be abe to pursue every option/dialogue choice. I like the fact that specialization matters here, and that I can't just be good at everything.

I also like the fact that, whie you can go anywhere, certain places are way harder to travel to/through than others. In FO3, things just scaled to your level, so there was no risk in travel. Now you always have to be wary of stumbling into a place that you can't handle. Makes the wasteand more dangerous and unpredictable.

I like having to work more for the good stuff, too.

...You never walked into the fireant infestation when you were low level with nothing better than a hunting rifle, did you?:tongue:

[Inkthinker]

Just north of the mining camp Sloan a heard of Deathclaws has taken over the area including the mine. Thats right, a heard.

"Do you herd sheep?" My grandma asked,
My grandpa leapt in fright.
"The grammar's wrong!", to me he said,
"Have you heard sheep is right."

-Walt Kelly

Easy way to remember: if it has "hear" in it, it means "to listen" (past tense).

[Chris S.]

...You never walked into the fireant infestation when you were low level with nothing better than a hunting rifle, did you?:tongue:

Yea I didn't really agree with this statement either. I always struggle in the beginning of RPGs because I wonder onto something I shouldn't too early. I remember doing just that in Fallout 3 a few times.

[FalconX2000]

Yea I didn't really agree with this statement either. I always struggle in the beginning of RPGs because I wonder onto something I shouldn't too early. I remember doing just that in Fallout 3 a few times.

Man, those giant scorpions scared me the first few times I fought them.

As for the game, I'm wondering if I should wait until the second PC patch comes out or get it now.

[Alex]

They just patched it today, the pc one that is.
I saw videos of weird bugs, but hadn't experienced them myself, but i suppose that's the way of pc bugs.

[Silver Knight]

Good review so far, man.

In your opinion, is the start better or worse than FO3?

Far better. However it is buggier. I had a bug that made me shoot anytime i exited a conversation or my pip-boy. Very annoying and had to reload several times.

I will retract my earlier statement about you cant explore. HA! I dont think your even supposed to get close to Vegas untill 50+ hours in. Would anyone cae to guess how long befoe I made it to the strip?





12 hours, 57 minutes. Had to battle some fierce raiders and creatures but I set out to conquer it and make it there and by god I did.


Now who wants to guess how I made it their?

[Astonishing X-Fan]

Yea I didn't really agree with this statement either. I always struggle in the beginning of RPGs because I wonder onto something I shouldn't too early. I remember doing just that in Fallout 3 a few times.

I was being a little too simple with my statement, but still, in general, FO3 scaled things almost everywhere and there was very little of that massive danger in the wasteland compared to this game and the old ones.

[Donald M.]

I'm enjoying the game so far, the only thing I really don't like and it's a minor complaint is how the game will sometimes inform you that you've failed a quest you didn't even realize you could initiate.

With the return of faction-based karma to the franchise, it's inevitable that there are quests that will become unavailable depending on how you play the game and what factions you choose to side with or against. That's why games like this are so replayable.

I just really don't like the idea of the game spelling out for me, this is where you could have gotten a quest if you hadn't killed those guys, or whatever. I prefer to discover these things for myself in subsequent playthroughs.

[Chris S.]

I'm enjoying the game so far, the only thing I really don't like and it's a minor complaint is how the game will sometimes inform you that you've failed a quest you didn't even realize you could initiate.

With the return of faction-based karma to the franchise, it's inevitable that there are quests that will become unavailable depending on how you play the game and what factions you choose to side with or against. That's why games like this are so replayable.

I just really don't like the idea of the game spelling out for me, this is where you could have gotten a quest if you hadn't killed those guys, or whatever. I prefer to discover these things for myself in subsequent playthroughs.

Honestly that was part of my issue with Fallout 3. The options were there, but it was clear what the outcomes would be. It just didn't have the replay factor it needed for a game I'd spent 50+ hours on.

Where as Fable 2 really made me curious if I should do something good or bad, or what the outcome would be.

[StreetFighterRyu]

I posted this in the other thread but this might be the more appropriate place:

Is anyone running it on a console?

I'm back and forth on this. It sounds like something I would definitely enjoy as I fell into Fallout 3 and took forever to fall out. However, it sounds like I'd get frustrated with the glitches. Also with Fable 3 coming out next week I think I'd be better off waiting for this to come out on a game of the year edition or something with all the DLC. Hopefully by then the glitches will be fixed.

Speaking of glitches, someone posted this on another site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKIkw3LIoQ&feature=player_embedded

It was hilarious. lol And annoying.

[jesse_custer]

I ran into one glitch early on. Smiley taught me how to make Healing Powder, and as I was returning to town, the game froze. It was night.

[Chris S.]

Speaking of glitches, someone posted this on another site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKIkw3LIoQ&feature=player_embedded

It was hilarious. lol And annoying.

The funny thing is that while the reviews say it as glitchy as hell on the consoles, everyone I talk to playing on a console say it runs smoother then Fallout 3.

[carabas]

I guess to some a glitch is when you encounter a microsecond of loading time.
To me it's when I get stuck in a wall and have to load an old save (hypothetical example, I haven't got the game yet).

[Salvester]

I've only experianced one big glitch:


I lost my dog =-(


I told Rex to wait somewhere cuz he wasn't allowed in, and then when I came back out, he was gone.

The worst part is he is still one of my followers, so I can only have one follower at the moment.



And I'm sure somewhere Rex is still waiting for me, ala Jurassic Bark

[sHayden]

I've only experianced one big glitch:


I lost my dog =-(


I told Rex to wait somewhere cuz he wasn't allowed in, and then when I came back out, he was gone.

The worst part is he is still one of my followers, so I can only have one follower at the moment.



And I'm sure somewhere Rex is still waiting for me, ala Jurassic Bark

I left a follower behind, ED-E, and the game told me it went back to Primm where I found an eyebot waiting. Try that.

[KMACthaKilla]

just want to say, wish there was duel weapons. not picking it up yet, just gonna wait for the game of the year edition. it'll be worth it by then.

[GeneralBobby]

Loving New Vegas so far. I used a whole week's vacation from work to play it and it was worth every second.

I ran into those deathclaws early on too. Soon after I started, I went off wandering to look for odd things in the wilderness and there they were. It makes it difficult to explore in the beginning, but I feel it makes your progress more meaningful when you can finally beat an enemy who wiped the floor with you 10 levels ago.

In my opinion, enemies that level up with you make your own leveling up pointless. Why am I spending 20, 30, 40 hours building my character up if the enemies are just as hard to kill as they were at hour one?

[StreetFighterRyu]

The funny thing is that while the reviews say it as glitchy as hell on the consoles, everyone I talk to playing on a console say it runs smoother then Fallout 3.

More of a "bug" than a glitch really. And I'm pretty sure that was on a PC. Either they forgot to fix it before launch, or his computer was a few megs short. (I'm not good with PCs so I don't know.)


Also, if you guys haven't finished the game on Hardcore, (or if you bothered) the "special prize" turned out to be nothing. (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/falloutnewvegas/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-56859615&pid=959557)

Unless you care enough for one lousy achievement, challenges, or just want to role play, don't even bother. I turned off hardcore as soon as I heard about this yesterday.

Although at the same time, I would have gone for it anyway if Oblivion had it. Mostly 'cause I like the fantasy setting more.

[sHayden]

Also, if you guys haven't finished the game on Hardcore, (or if you bothered) the "special prize" turned out to be nothing. (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/falloutnewvegas/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-56859615&pid=959557)



I sort of figured that is what it would be once I saw a 100gp achievement.
Checked out that link, seems some people are quite upset about that. What do they want, avatar gear? That's just as intangible as as achievement points.

[Astonishing X-Fan]

Well some games, like Dead Rising and Mass Effect, give you in-game rewards for achievements that you can use on future playthroughs. Something like that would have been nice.

[StreetFighterRyu]

I sort of figured that is what it would be once I saw a 100gp achievement.
Checked out that link, seems some people are quite upset about that. What do they want, avatar gear? That's just as intangible as as achievement points.

They could of at least let us start the game with your saved character. Like Mass Effect and Alpha Protocol. That's all I want from it really.

And lol @ avatar gear. I could care less if they offered me that. Some people believe that they will release a pack where the "real" prize will be. But I doubt it.

[Sheldon]

I got Fallout 3 on PS3, but since I've upgraded my laptop since then I've gone with the pc game for New Vegas. I must say using the console to get the mysterious stranger's 44 magnum is pretty fun. I went north into that Deathclaw Quarry and had a ton of fun.

[carabas]

Damn, this game throws you some seriously unbalanced encounters...

Just pissed off the Legion. Killed off that guy in Nipton and they send a squad of assassins after me. Couldn't even dent their armour with my best guns at level 6. I'm shooting the bastard point blank in the face and he barely loses a stripe of life while he and his four buddies rip me to pieces...

In the end I got rid of them by fast-travelling to Sloan and introducing them to a pack of Deathclaws...

[sHayden]

So what faction are you supporting? Mr. House, NCR, Caesar's Legion, your own, etc.?
I've sided with House but am helping the NCR somewhat.

[carabas]

I'm not really far enough into it for that.
Legion's extremely unlikely as they kill me in sight, and I am as yet unfamiliar with this House fellow.

Last thing I did was run away from a veritable army of robots, right into the arms of an army of Ghouls, glowing Ones, and a Feral Reaver even. This game does not like it when you get off the road for five minutes and start to explore.

[Agent Helix]

The game is significantly more difficult than 3 was, but I haven't encountered anything I'd call really unbalanced.

[Specimen 297]

So, I was trying to play off all the factions at once, and not get on any of their bad sides, but as the story progresses you have to pretty much either side with the legion or go against them. A bit annoying. I'm stuck now, me and Boone keep getting killed in the Legion fort where they have chainsaws and what not.

[Donald M.]

The game is significantly more difficult than 3 was, but I haven't encountered anything I'd call really unbalanced.

Seriously. If you try to take on a squad of heavily armed soldiers all by yourself at level 6, it should give you a bit of trouble. That's not unbalanced, that's common sense.

[Donald M.]

So, I was trying to play off all the factions at once, and not get on any of their bad sides, but as the story progresses you have to pretty much either side with the legion or go against them. A bit annoying. I'm stuck now, me and Boone keep getting killed in the Legion fort where they have chainsaws and what not.

I didn't set foot in the Legion fort until I was level 30. Though Vilified by the Legion, I managed to get into Caesar's tent unnoticed by disguising myself. It was a tense battle, but I killed Caesar and all of his elite guards. One of them was carrying a weapon called the Ballistic Fist, a wrist-mounted, pressure plate activated shotgun that doesn't require ammo.

Abandoning my disguise, I then stepped outside Caesar's tent and punched everyone to death.

[Donald M.]

Finally beat the game, boy was that depressing.

No spoilers, but basically, no matter what you do, somebody you like is going to get seriously screwed and it was all your fault.

[carabas]

Seriously. If you try to take on a squad of heavily armed soldiers all by yourself at level 6, it should give you a bit of trouble. That's not unbalanced, that's common sense.With a bit of prep time that isn't much of a problem. The problem starts when their mates, who seem to have at least ten or fifteen levels on you, start chasing you around the map, no matter where you go.

[Jeff-E]

Damn, this game throws you some seriously unbalanced encounters...

Just pissed off the Legion. Killed off that guy in Nipton and they send a squad of assassins after me. Couldn't even dent their armour with my best guns at level 6. I'm shooting the bastard point blank in the face and he barely loses a stripe of life while he and his four buddies rip me to pieces...

In the end I got rid of them by fast-travelling to Sloan and introducing them to a pack of Deathclaws...

spoilers on how to deal
















plant dynamite in as many pockets as you can in nipton, then fight while running in reverse. it may take a few try's. Then when you get to the next confrontation, check where you are. die, then reload. Use a stealth boy,plant as much dynamite as you can and fight in reverse again, i.e. blast away with the 357, and keep moving backwards, use the merchants and their merc's to do as much damage as they can. Thats how I did it. It took a long, and I mean a long time to get past, or just run, and keep running along the road, north, eventually you run in to NCR.

[sHayden]

speaking of Deathclaws, I was doing the bit to clean them out in Quarry Junction. The regular ones would see me from ridiculous distances and two seconds later I'd have a Deathclaw in my face. Mama Deathclaw..just stood there and let me blast her to pieces.

[Specimen 297]

I didn't set foot in the Legion fort until I was level 30. Though Vilified by the Legion, I managed to get into Caesar's tent unnoticed by disguising myself. It was a tense battle, but I killed Caesar and all of his elite guards. One of them was carrying a weapon called the Ballistic Fist, a wrist-mounted, pressure plate activated shotgun that doesn't require ammo.

Abandoning my disguise, I then stepped outside Caesar's tent and punched everyone to death.

I can get into Caesar's Tent but then I die straight away coz there's a guy stood RIGHT next to you when you enter the tent and a dog who instantly alerts them that you're not a member of the legion. Fed up of it.

[Silver Knight]

Damn, this game throws you some seriously unbalanced encounters...

Just pissed off the Legion. Killed off that guy in Nipton and they send a squad of assassins after me. Couldn't even dent their armour with my best guns at level 6. I'm shooting the bastard point blank in the face and he barely loses a stripe of life while he and his four buddies rip me to pieces...

In the end I got rid of them by fast-travelling to Sloan and introducing them to a pack of Deathclaws...Ah that was a tough fight.

I couldnt sit their and let them walk away after they killed the town so as they where walking away single file I went in front and swtiched to Armor Pearcing ammo.

I unloaded on Lupta's head as well as some of the others....That didnt work out as good as I hoped. I hate the way armor is represented now, to go along with the new ammo types armor is given a significant boost, the only ammo worth carrying is armor pearcing.


Anyway I was lucky to survive, I ended up backing up throwing dynamite and grenades untill they all died.


So what faction are you supporting? Mr. House, NCR, Caesar's Legion, your own, etc.?
I've sided with House but am helping the NCR somewhat.

Ive decided House.


NCR has no rightful claim to New Vegas. They want it and its resources simply because they feel entitlled to it. Screw that, im not letting them take this land away from the people that worked hard on it.


But they can help with the Legion so i'll string them along:evilsmile:


speaking of Deathclaws, I was doing the bit to clean them out in Quarry Junction. The regular ones would see me from ridiculous distances and two seconds later I'd have a Deathclaw in my face. Mama Deathclaw..just stood there and let me blast her to pieces.

I hated Deathclaws, no matter the weapon, they seemed neigh invincible untill I hit around mid 20 levels.

I went around that whole area, found some Khans(and aside form the two that buried me, I have no problem with Khans) and took a quest. Speaking of which that Khan sounded like Zoe Bell, I'll have to check the credits.

Anyway they where almost on top of the quarry, I got on a crane so as to have high ground and pulled out my Sniper Rifle and armor pearcing ammo. They took a hell of a lot to kill, even with sneak attack crit's.

The baby's I used my Marksman carbine, worked pretty well.


Alpha and Momma-Claw I saved something special for them, Geass Rifle:cool:



On a unrelated note, Why is the Brotherhood of Steel such pricks? In 3 they where cool, but they treated me like shit and attacked me, so I showed them no mercy. Besides they are easy to kill, shoot the gun out of their hands and they can only do h-2-h fighting, which they arnt trained for, then ya just use armor pearcing ammo and explosives till they all fall down.



In fact why did the NCR and Brotherhood get into it in the first place. NCR should thank the BoS for dealing with the Master and his legions of super mutants, not fighting with them. They should be working together instead of against each other.

I can get into Caesar's Tent but then I die straight away coz there's a guy stood RIGHT next to you when you enter the tent and a dog who instantly alerts them that you're not a member of the legion. Fed up of it.

Ive tried to get to the Fort but it seems almost everyway up the hill is blocked unseend glitch-walls.

Ive got three Stealthboys saved...I wanna shoot that slaving Prick in the head already:evilangry:

[Bored at 3:00AM]

When the big mega-patch finally came a little while back, I decided to give Fallout New Vegas another shot because I figured that would have fixed most of the major problems.

Nope. This game is still a near unplayable mess.

It's a damn shame that the engine is so damn buggy and outdated, because there's a pretty interesting game somewhere in there. Unfortunately, the frustrations of constant game crashes (I was playing on PS3, maybe it's not as bad on PC & Xbox) and little annoyances like having to track down your companions because they got lost somewhere, or being forced to sit through four or five load screens just to do the most routine stuff became so unbearable I had to stop.

I finished the game, but I'm sure there were hundreds of side-quests and locations I never even got to, but never will because I simply don't want to piss away any more time getting invested into something that regularly causes me to stop enjoying myself and get frustrated.

Plus, after Mass Effect showed how cinematic and compelling RPGs can look & feel, I simply can't handle the bland presentation anymore. A few years ago, this was fine, but it just doesn't fly anymore. Can you imagine how much better this game could have been had they taken all these great storylines, characters & dialogue trees, but done them with a similar style & feel to Mass Effect 2? You could still have all the RPG minutae, but only if you wanted it, like Hardcore Mode.

Ah, I can dream, can't I?

Again, it's too bad the game is such a mess on the technical side because it's a stronger game than Fallout 3 in terms of characters and story. Here's hoping the next Fallout will try to be a little more forward thinking in terms of presentation & game mechanics while continuing to bring back what worked from the older Fallout games.

[Vaiyt]

Anyway, everyone takes multiple bullets to the head to stay down, what's with that? Are they all hopped on radiation or something?

or is represented now, to go along with the new ammo types armor is given a significant boost, the only ammo worth carrying is armor pearcing.

I'm at the beginning of the game, and already noticing the enemies are getting hard to kill. Thanks for the advice.

[Jeff-E]

I finished Dead Money and made sure to save an extra slot before I left incase I want to go back. Wasn't all that impressed with the patch, was fun but didn't overwhelm me. I've been helping the NCR, and trying to get them to patch things up with the Kahns. I may go kill ceasar next as, I figure, hell, who likes slavers? All in all though, this is the only game I've really played for the past 2 months. To those who talk about the game crashing, and being all buggy, what are you refering to? I've had almost no problems and no crashes. Maybe its your system? The closest thing I have to a "bug" is when I fire the Minigun it keeps making the noise sometimes after I quit firing. It doesn't fire, just makes the noise. Can't wait for another DLC, I used to be really against DLC, I mean I hated it with a passion, but once I gave it a shot, I'm a convert. Anyone else hear that they will not do a "Broken Steel" patch, where you continue the game after it finishes? This ensures I will probably never finish the game again. I did it once just to see what happened, ran through as quick as I could, I think I missed alot of the story though.

[pariah-1972]

Ok from what i've read that New Vegas has very little mutants or ghouls or irradiated monsters or bugs of any kind right? so who do you spend most of the time fighting?

[Agent Helix]

Uh, no, I don't know where you read that, but that's wrong.

[Jeff-E]

Ive come across a fair amount of bugs, and gouls, not to many supermutants though, except for the nightkin at different missions. Alot of the game is spent battleing tribes, or leigon, or factions. Alligning yourself with one faction usually makes another angry at you.

[pariah-1972]

Uh, no, I don't know where you read that, but that's wrong.Pretty sure it was Wikipedia...

[Agent Helix]

Pretty sure it's wrong.

[carabas]

Ok from what i've read that New Vegas has very little mutants or ghouls or irradiated monsters or bugs of any kind right? so who do you spend most of the time fighting?Not a whole lot very little mutants. Lots of bugs though :)

[pariah-1972]

Not a whole lot very little mutants. Lots of bugs though :)Ugh i would prefer fighting Mutants than bugs anyday.

[jesse_custer]

I was doing the quest where you have to get the three specialized whores for the Wrangler Casino. I found the ghoul cowgirl and smooth talker with no problem, but it took me a while to find Cerulean Robotics for the sexbot. After activating the sexbot, I leave the building only to be attacked by three old women with rolling pins (Rancorous Ruth, Irate Ida, and Malefic Maud).

Undoubtedly the result of the Wild Wasteland perk, which I highly recommend.

[FalconX2000]

Pretty sure it was Wikipedia...

I think Wikipedia was referring to the New Vegas strip, rather than the game as a whole.

[pariah-1972]

I think Wikipedia was referring to the New Vegas strip, rather than the game as a whole.That's quite possible.

[FalconX2000]

Ugh i would prefer fighting Mutants than bugs anyday.

I never found any mutant as terrifying as the Cazador. Damn things are nearly impssible to hit as they buzz blitz to your location and sting you with their unnervingly potent poison. And they attack in swarms of 5-6. Geesh.



Ive come across a fair amount of bugs, and gouls, not to many supermutants though, except for the nightkin at different missions. Alot of the game is spent battleing tribes, or leigon, or factions. Alligning yourself with one faction usually makes another angry at you.

They're definitely not as prevalent as in Fallout 3 (which takes place on the eastern side of America), largely because the earlier Fallout games thinned their numbers in the western region considerably. There's 2 areas where you can find a lot of them though; Black Mountain and Jacobstown.




I just went through Vault 34. Damn place burnt through nearly my entirely supply of radaway.

[Kurase]

Finished Dead Money. Was incredible and loved everything. Though story/charachters foremost. Best (also deepest) written charachters/dialouge since ages. I can see the speakers get annoying though.

On the whole actually a better experience than the main game. Naturally they are not really comporable since they operate on a totally different scope, still...

[Jeff-E]

Honest Hearts, the newest expansion just came out, and I currently have it downloading. Has anyone checked it out? I just got Alan Wake from gamefly so im waiting to check it out so I don't end up letting Wake just sit there.

[Jeff-E]

Double post

[FalconX2000]

Ugh i would prefer fighting Mutants than bugs anyday.

Lots of organised factions are fighting each other. So you'll be fighting loads of NCR or Legion soldiers, the Mob in New Vegas, escaped convicts who've taken over an NCR prison. As mentioned, plenty of ghoul infested areas too, and this time there's two areas filled with deathclaws.

As for bugs, Cazadors are fucking scary, especially if you're precision gun dependent character like mine was. They're impossible to hit reliably due to their erratic movements, are so damn fast they'll close on you in a couple of seconds, and pack an extremely nasty wallop in that stinger. Not to mention they always appear in groups.

[HollowKyubi Espada]

Lots of organised factions are fighting each other. So you'll be fighting loads of NCR or Legion soldiers, the Mob in New Vegas, escaped convicts who've taken over an NCR prison. As mentioned, plenty of ghoul infested areas too, and this time there's two areas filled with deathclaws.

As for bugs, Cazadors are fucking scary, especially if you're precision gun dependent character like mine was. They're impossible to hit reliably due to their erratic movements, are so damn fast they'll close on you in a couple of seconds, and pack an extremely nasty wallop in that stinger. Not to mention they always appear in groups.

That is why you carry an Incinarator with you at all time. Especially if you are playing Hardcore mode.:evilsmile:

[TsaiMeLemoni]

Honest Hearts, the newest expansion just came out, and I currently have it downloading. Has anyone checked it out? I just got Alan Wake from gamefly so im waiting to check it out so I don't end up letting Wake just sit there.

I've only played a bit, but it seems pretty interesting.

I am working with the Legion on my current playthrough with the achievements, so I wonder how things will eventually with the Graham character. I've read that he can be a follower at the end...I don't know all the circumstances of how it would happen yet, but I guess we'll see.

I will say the Giant Green Geckos can be a pain in the ass.

[Specimen 297]

Can anyone help me...

I tried doing the G.I. Blues mission where you follow the bodyguard and have to find out he's conning people. I failed the intelligence and medicine checks after his staged ambush during the mission and was told to go do it again. Now though when I go do it there is no ambush and I'm never prompted to use my intelligence and medicine. Nothing happens.

What am I supposed to do?

[carabas]

Can anyone help me...

I tried doing the G.I. Blues mission where you follow the bodyguard and have to find out he's conning people. I failed the intelligence and medicine checks after his staged ambush during the mission and was told to go do it again. Now though when I go do it there is no ambush and I'm never prompted to use my intelligence and medicine. Nothing happens.

What am I supposed to do?
Reload old save.
Read a Today's Physician magazine for a cool +20 in Medicine.
???
Profit.

Alternatively, shoot one of the 'dead' thugs. Might be a though fight depending on your level though.

[Specimen 297]

Don't have an old save before that moment. I have got my medicine and intelligence up yet whenever I hire him again he doesn't take the detour and I'm never prompted to do anything.

[carabas]

Don't have an old save before that moment. I have got my medicine and intelligence up yet whenever I hire him again he doesn't take the detour and I'm never prompted to do anything.Just attack one of the 'dead' goons then. That'll expose him too.

For future reference, you don't ever get to retake a failed ability/skill test. If the text tells you don't have the stats to succeed, don't try it anyway.

[carabas]

Just started playing this again a few weeks ago by the way...

Wasn't really into it when it first came out (probably because I'd replayed Fallout 3 not too long before that).

I'm into it a good 100 hours, level 34 or so. Finally gotten around to confronting Benny.

I'm not allowed to gamble anymore anywheer in the game, by the way. The last I was banned at (The Topps) was just plain ludicrous. I played jackpot 3 times, won 200.000 chips, and got kicked out for cheating...

I also recently discovered the Ranger Sequoia... It frelling one-shots Deathclaws with a bit of luck.

[Jeff-E]

Just finished Honest Hearts for the 3rd time. Much better than Dead Money IMO if for no other reason than because you can return to Zion. Next month, Old World Blues gets released.

[Redem]

Just finished today great game, went beyond my expectation and i'll probably will replay it soon enough, although they seem to be something lacking story-wise IMO things seem to rush after you discover try to take back the platinum chip

Need to make more caps and need more to boost my skills

[TsaiMeLemoni]

I really liked Honest Hearts. Made a save before having to make that final choice so I could get both achievements, and it was pretty awesome how different the endings were.

Looking forward to the next DLC, and I also need to get around to playing Dead Money!

[Specimen 297]

Just attack one of the 'dead' goons then. That'll expose him too.

For future reference, you don't ever get to retake a failed ability/skill test. If the text tells you don't have the stats to succeed, don't try it anyway.
No no no, the problem was there was NO goons at all or prompts to do anything. He would just take me to the entrance to the strip and leave. Anyway, I pickpocketed him which seemed to initiate a conversation with him which let me complete the quest.

It's getting to the point in the game where I'm gonna have to pick a side. Not looking forward to it, I like just being faithful to all the sides.

[carabas]

Well, at some point merely being friendly with the NCR is going to mightily piss off the Legion and vice versa.

[Irtyu Vixen]

Well, at some point merely being friendly with the NCR is going to mightily piss off the Legion and vice versa.

So, you have to choose a side:frown: Is there a way to keep both of them neutral towards your character? I think I'm to the point where one more move and the NCR, and the Legion are gonna start attacking me on sight, or not support me anymore.

[Specimen 297]

You can play off both sides for quite a while. Just gotta avoid the missions that obviously are anti-Legion or anti-NCR to not lose favour with either of them. Obviously as you progress you need to kind of pick a side.

[jesse_custer]

This Machine is awesome.

[FalconX2000]

This Machine is awesome.

Best medium rifle in the game. Durable as granite, decent clip size, good reload time, high power shots, fires as fast as you click. If its accuracy variance was better it'd be the best sniper rifle as well.

[carabas]

I prefered the scoped Hunting Rifle. Slightly less damage, but, well, scope.

[FalconX2000]

I prefered the scoped Hunting Rifle. Slightly less damage, but, well, scope.

The hunting rifle had great damage and superb accuracy, but it was bolt action and thus filled a more specialised role imo, a role that I used the fully modified sniper rifle for. This Machine could empty its clip in half a second if you clicked fast enough.

[carabas]

The hunting rifle had great damage and superb accuracy, but it was bolt action and thus filled a more specialised role imo, a role that I used the fully modified sniper rifle for. This Machine could empty its clip in half a second if you clicked fast enough.Well, I was playing a dedicated stealthy sniper type. Speed was never much of an issue. Even the lowly Ratslayer remained a very effective weapon against most things for most of the game. Things coming up close generally wasn't much of a factor (and I had the Ranger Sequoia as backup weapon, tends to kill Deathclaws in 2 shots with a bit of luck).

[Jeff-E]

Anyone else playing Old World Blues? If so anyone else hit a glitch where the sink wont give you caps when you sell to it?

[Jeff-E]

Lonesome Road came out. It is fantastic! Lots of fun and backstory. Anyone else playing?

[jesse_custer]

I'm still playing through the main game for the first time. I put it down for months and have gotten back into it.

Right now I'm getting as much as I can from the Omertas before I murder all of them.

[Jeff-E]

Im debating finishing the game finally. No broken steel like expansion has me apprehensive

[Simbob4000]

I was forced to quit playing, went to talk to someone outside New Vegas on a little farm, game glitched up, turned the Xbox off...never was able to get it to turn back on.

[FalconX2000]

Well, I was playing a dedicated stealthy sniper type. Speed was never much of an issue. Even the lowly Ratslayer remained a very effective weapon against most things for most of the game. Things coming up close generally wasn't much of a factor (and I had the Ranger Sequoia as backup weapon, tends to kill Deathclaws in 2 shots with a bit of luck).

The Avenger minigun was my 'backup' weapon.:biggrin: You need something with spread or auto fire to reliably hit those damn giant hornets, I find.

[sHayden]

Lonesome Road came out. It is fantastic! Lots of fun and backstory. Anyone else playing?

If they do a disc with the extra content on it for cheap, then I would buy.

[carabas]

The Avenger minigun was my 'backup' weapon.:biggrin: You need something with spread or auto fire to reliably hit those damn giant hornets, I find.You just need something with good accuracy to shoot offf their wings in VATS and then you can just leasurely pick them to death with your worst gun...

It helps if you have a compagnon/damage sponge with you, of course, but I found that progressing very slowly and not using un-silenced weapons, picking them off one by one, got me through Cazador territory in one piece.