Captain Marvel: dream creative team

[mathew101281]

I've always thought that a creative team of Grant Morrison and
Ed Mcguinness would be the ideal creative team for series staring this character. Mcguinness's would capture the larger then life aspect of the character and Morrison's tendancy towards big crazy ideas would work quite well with the Marvel family.

what do you guess think?

[Jimmy Bond]

Is Cameron Stewart a reasonable subsitute for you?

I'm mixed on Ed McGuinness's art. Don't dislike him though.

[Duy]

Morrison is my pick for this as well. While not my favorite writer, I can't help but think he'd be perfect on the title.

As for the artist, I definitely don't want McGuinness on it - just can't stand the man's art. But it's got to be someone who can bring the whimsy. I say Frank Quitely, Pete Poplaski, or hell, just keep Mike Norton on it.

[Jimmy Bond]

Morrison is my pick for this as well. While not my favorite writer, I can't help but think he'd be perfect on the title.

As for the artist, I definitely don't want McGuinness on it - just can't stand the man's art. But it's got to be someone who can bring the whimsy. I say Frank Quitely, Pete Poplaski, or hell, just keep Mike Norton on it.

Cameron Stewart is doing the art for the Captain Marvel issue of Multiversity.

[Duy]

Cameron Stewart is doing the art for the Captain Marvel issue of Multiversity.
Have there been previews? I like Stewart fine, but not everyone "gets" Cap.

Either that, or I just really love C.C. Beck.

[Pól Rua]

My ideal Captain Marvel project would use an array of creative teams. You want the clean-lined bombast of Cap himself, a more smooth, illustrative style for Mary's adventures, and a detailed, dynamic style for Junior's stories.

Personally, I think Mike Norton did a great job , but the strength of a rotating creative team is that it allows creators who wouldn't work on an ongoing monthly series to create 'dream projects'.
I mean, there's no way Gilbert and Jaime Hernandez are ever going to do a monthly ongoing series for DC, but wouldn't it be nice to see them do a Mary Marvel story?
Similarly, you could get Darwyn Cooke, Cliff Chiang, or Bruce Timm doing a Captain Marvel story... hell, why have ONE Dream Team, when you can have all of them?

[Jimmy Bond]

Have there been previews? I like Stewart fine, but not everyone "gets" Cap.

Either that, or I just really love C.C. Beck.

No previews yet, that I've seen at least. This won't even be out until summer. I think Stewart is a good choice though. His art is close to Quitely's, and if anything it's less bulgy, which is a good fit for Cap.

[Duy]

My ideal Captain Marvel project would use an array of creative teams. You want the clean-lined bombast of Cap himself, a more smooth, illustrative style for Mary's adventures, and a detailed, dynamic style for Junior's stories.

Personally, I think Mike Norton did a great job , but the strength of a rotating creative team is that it allows creators who wouldn't work on an ongoing monthly series to create 'dream projects'.
I mean, there's no way Gilbert and Jaime Hernandez are ever going to do a monthly ongoing series for DC, but wouldn't it be nice to see them do a Mary Marvel story?
Similarly, you could get Darwyn Cooke, Cliff Chiang, or Bruce Timm doing a Captain Marvel story... hell, why have ONE Dream Team, when you can have all of them?
How about using different artists for ONE story, like they did back then? (Or one artist with multiple styles)

I've mentioned this here (http://comicscube.blogspot.com/2010/06/mixing-styles-promethea-batman-and.html), but the original Mary Marvel story definitely had a mixture of styles, either with Swayze on Mary, Raboy on Junior, and Beck on Cap; or Swayze just copying their styles for their respective characters. Actually, I'd love to see that today!

And I want to say: Ty Templeton. That is all.

[protonik]

Morrison yes... now throw Chris Sprouse in the mix and we got a deal!

[Jbenn]

My old dream team would have been Mark Waid and the late Mike Wieringo (in fact I think Grant Morrison has said that Waid was scheduled to do a post Infinite Crisis Marvel Family book but they went in another direction).

Right now I think it would be Gail Simone (I don't think there's another DC writer right now who has proclaimed her love of the Marvels or desire to write them so much) and Jesus Saiz (love the work he's done on Brave and the Bold).

If not them I think Paul Cornell (who has a flair for the dramatic and the ridiculous, both of which I think a proper Shazam title needs) and Shane Davis (who said he'd love to do the Marvel Family at SDCC). Too bad the only real Shazam work I can find from Davis alone is this "Black Mary" cover from the Countdown http://www.comiconart.com/images/ShaneDavis/Covers/Countdown36.jpg although even there Mary looks better than how anyone drew her within the title itself (where the art was usually dreadful).

[dupersuper]

Grant Morrison/Jeff Smith

[Ex_]

Morrisonites think he's perfect for everything. Bah humbug.


Bring me Paul Tobin and Daniel Acuña.

[LightningRider]

Gail Simone.

I don't know why, but I can imagine Nicola doing good with it.

Or Cameron Stewart lol.

[Joe Rice]

The last time I thought about this I came up with something similar to Pol.

For Cap, let's have Morrison and Quitely. Stewart could be nice, too. For Junior, let's just hand it over to Paul Pope. And for Mary? The Immonens seem perfect to me.

[Joe Rice]

Oooh! And then when you have them all together, JH Williams, who's shown great aptitude at mixing other peoples' styles!

[doctormistermaster]

I would read this title if only to read more of Morrison's tkae on Doctor Sivanna

[Dave Hackett]

Morrison would be great, but he's said he'll say all he has to say in Multiversity (although he also said he'd only do Batman for a year and then fell in love with Bruce, so you never know)

As a second choice I'd take Dini. I thought his take in the "Power of Hope" was pretty good.

And really, I'm sad the current "Billy Batson" is ending, because I like that fine just as it is as well.

[Schornforce]

Morrison would be great, but he's said he'll say all he has to say in Multiversity (although he also said he'd only do Batman for a year and then fell in love with Bruce, so you never know)

As a second choice I'd take Dini. I thought his take in the "Power of Hope" was pretty good.

And really, I'm sad the current "Billy Batson" is ending, because I like that fine just as it is as well.

What? Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam! is ending? :frown:

My choice would be Jeff Smith. I loved what he did with the Captain Marvel & The Monster Society of Evil.

[Aelle3]

For me, i would have Paul Cornell and Leonard Kirk.

[Joe Franklin]

There are so many crazy goofy villains in the Captain Marvel rogues gallery, I would love to see Giffen/DeMatteis have a comedy centered crack at them.

And Chris Sprouse would fit perfectly with this title.

[stelok]

Tohru Fujisawa is the perfect creative writer-artist for Capt. Marvel

[Cayman]

Morrison and Chris Sprouse.

[Brother Justin Crowe]

Jeff Smith. Just Jeff Smith.

[mkeeler]

Tom Peyer and Rags Morales.

[Desaad]

Dream? Neil Gaiman and Alan Davis.

Reasonable?

Mike Carey - Who has shown he understands powerful magic in Lucifer and kids in Crossing Midnight - would be the absolute perfect person for a book like this.

And Chris Sprouse seems like he'd be a perfect artist for it, yes.

[daveageallen]

alex ross i think is the ultimate marvel artist.

not his painted style though. his straight forward pen and inks are really gorgeous aswell.
i want him drawing, and dan slott, or grant morrison writing

ross even pitched a captain marvel series and was shot down.
dc seems to shoot down alot of cool ideas. we have herd so many lately, ross cap marvel, darwyn cooke WW, someother WW more anime style for female readers, mr.miracle big barda series.

its a shame

[Ex_]

Tom Peyer and Rags Morales.

Holy crap. This would be glorious. I loves me some Tom Peyer, and Rags Morales has a nice pencil.

[Punchdrunk]

Samnee and Landridge who are currently on Marvel's Thor: the Mighty Avenger would be outstanding.

They would have the right mix of whimsy and action both in the book and the look. I love 'em on TTMA but that pair was meant to do Captain Marvel.

My dream team would be Alex Ross and Jim Butcher.
Butcher writes so well about the arcane while maintaining a sense of humor and nobody draws the Big Red Cheese with the impact that Ross gives him.

[Aaron Kashtan]

Paul Tobin and a rotating team of artists.

[Mr Prince]

Gail Simone and Rags Morales or Gail and Stefano Caselli for me.

[Punchdrunk]

Paul Tobin would be another outstanding choice -pair him up with Dave Johnson.
Generally - if you can write all ages stuff that is intelligent and inclusive / operating on an entertaining level for both adults and kids simultaneously then you have a good first step on Captain Marvel - Paul Tobin does this consistently.

Of course my uber dream would be a Mike Mignola run on Captain Marvel.

He could take the whole Billy Batson - child as champion of magic to such a creepy place that no one would ever dismiss the concept as too immature again.

The Old Wizard vs the Seven Lords of Chaos sounds just about right to me.

[Pól Rua]

If we're talking DREAM teams...

Otto Binder and C.C. Beck...

[dupersuper]

Morrisonites think he's perfect for everything. Bah humbug.


Hardly, I just liked his Captain Marvel in JLA, and think Jeff Smith could polish his sometimes iffy storytelling flow, while Morrison keeps Smith in the mainstream DCU.



As a second choice I'd take Dini. I thought his take in the "Power of Hope" was pretty good.


Yeah, Dini/Ross could be awesome.


There are so many crazy goofy villains in the Captain Marvel rogues gallery, I would love to see Giffen/DeMatteis have a comedy centered crack at them.

And Chris Sprouse would fit perfectly with this title.

They handled the Marvels pretty well in JLI and the Super Buddies stuff...

Who ever did it, I'd love to get the odd painted Ordway covers in the series...

[Joe Rice]

They handled the Marvels pretty well in JLI and the Super Buddies stuff...


Really? Cap was a simpleton and Mary a sex object. Typical bullshit from DC.

[Duy]

If we're talking DREAM teams...

Otto Binder and C.C. Beck...
MMMMMMMmmmmmmm..... Binder and Beck.......

[Pól Rua]

MMMMMMMmmmmmmm..... Binder and Beck.......
It's a hard act to follow...


They handled the Marvels pretty well in JLI and the Super Buddies stuff...
Couldn't disagree more. They turned both characters into one-note parodies.
Honestly, it's the equivalent of writing every Batman comic as a variant on "My Parents Are DEAD!!!" or as Dave Sim's 'Cockroach', and every Superman comic as Kurtzman and Wood's 'Superduperman'.

Fine if what you're after is cheap laughs... which isn't a bad thing... but nope. Definitely not 'characterization'.

[dupersuper]

Really? Cap was a simpleton and Mary a sex object. Typical bullshit from DC.


It's a hard act to follow...

Couldn't disagree more. They turned both characters into one-note parodies.
Honestly, it's the equivalent of writing every Batman comic as a variant on "My Parents Are DEAD!!!" or as Dave Sim's 'Cockroach', and every Superman comic as Kurtzman and Wood's 'Superduperman'.

Fine if what you're after is cheap laughs... which isn't a bad thing... but nope. Definitely not 'characterization'.

I was keeping in mind that they were comedy books...

[Duy]

I was keeping in mind that they were comedy books...
Dude, let's just take this all the way and scrap the Captain Marvel project. ANd let's bring back FATMAN THE HUMAN FLYING SAUCER!!

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/f/fatman1.htm

[David O Burcham]

Evan Dorkin & Sarah Dyer writing with Eric Powell on art

[Punchdrunk]

Well if you are going comedy just have Powell do the whole shebang.

Something tells me Talking Tawny would get into hi jinks never dreamed of

[T-Bolt]

just back a truckload of money up to Darwyn Cooke's house, using the Multiversity book as a series bible.

[Electric Version]

Giffen, DeMatteis and Maguire.

Or Dan Slott and Alan Davis.

[daveageallen]

Or Dan Slott and Alan Davis.

ooo nice one.

i like the idea of dan slott and one of his current spiderman artists marcos martin.

[Punchdrunk]

Dan Slott and Cristos Gage - masters of resurecting the underapreciated or outcast superhero.

[daveageallen]

Dan Slott and Cristos Gage - masters of resurecting the underapreciated or outcast superhero.

gage i can see since he is not exculsive to one company. dan is gonna be with spiderman i am guesing years.

[Darrell D.]

Evan Dorkin & Sarah Dyer writing with Eric Powell on art
Very nice idea. I would actually let Dorkin do the art, though.

alex ross i think is the ultimate marvel artist.

not his painted style though. his straight forward pen and inks are really gorgeous aswell.
i want him drawing, and dan slott, or grant morrison writing

ross even pitched a captain marvel series and was shot down.
dc seems to shoot down alot of cool ideas. we have herd so many lately, ross cap marvel, darwyn cooke WW, someother WW more anime style for female readers, mr.miracle big barda series.

its a shame
When looking at Ross' art, the last thing that comes to mind is 'whimsical' which is what you need for characters like Cap and Plastic Man. The first thing that comes to mind is boring and aging cosplayer, though.
It seems there are more writers and artists outside the super-hero genre than inside that actually understand the character, and that's pretty telling.

[Munkiman]

The WW thing reminds me - Darwyn Cooke would be awesome on Captain Marvel.

[Joe Franklin]

Really? Cap was a simpleton and Mary a sex object. Typical bullshit from DC.

Really?

Lol, Captain Marvel's rouges gallery has Bwahaha..... written all over it. :biggrin:

Arson Fiend, Doctor Smashi, Jorrk, Mr. Mind, Rowdy Sparkle, The Dummy, Mr. Who, Oggar, and King Kull, just to name a few. These guys are cheesecake city, and so is Billy, and the rest of his white bread gullible family.

Bwahaha.... is the way to go with Captain Marvel.

[Rakzo]

Grant Morrison or Darwyn Cooke.


Really?

Lol, Captain Marvel's rouges gallery has Bwahaha..... written all over it. :biggrin:

Arson Fiend, Doctor Smashi, Jorrk, Mr. Mind, Rowdy Sparkle, The Dummy, Mr. Who, Oggar, and King Kull, just to name a few. These guys are cheesecake city, and so is Billy, and the rest of his white bread gullible family.

Bwahaha.... is the way to go with Captain Marvel.

I don't think Captain Marvel should be a series that takes itself too seiously (After all, he has a mad scientist midget and a worm wearing glasses as nemesis), however I neither think that it should make fun about itself all the time.

I would love to see a series paying homage to the Golden Age (Captain Marvel represents that era), bringing old ideas and concepts and making new stories about them.

[Duy]

Really?

Lol, Captain Marvel's rouges gallery has Bwahaha..... written all over it. :biggrin:

Arson Fiend, Doctor Smashi, Jorrk, Mr. Mind, Rowdy Sparkle, The Dummy, Mr. Who, Oggar, and King Kull, just to name a few. These guys are cheesecake city, and so is Billy, and the rest of his white bread gullible family.

Bwahaha.... is the way to go with Captain Marvel.
As opposed to a clown, a guy who talks in riddles, a rather-very-exactly-burned burn victim, and a fowl-shaped crime boss, right?

[Duy]

I don't think Captain Marvel should be a series that takes itself too seiously (After all, he has a mad scientist midget and a worm wearing glasses as nemesis), however I neither think that it should make fun about itself all the time.

Seriously, what makes the little mad scientist any less credible than the little psychopath who controls minds?

It's superheroes; NONE of them should take themselves too seriously.



I would love to see a series paying homage to the Golden Age (Captain Marvel represents that era), bringing old ideas and concepts and making new stories about them.

Jeff Smith did it. Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam does it. It's just that no one is reading it.

[Hawk_fan]

Dream Teams...

Writer: Paul Dini
Artist: Paul Smith

Writer: James Robinson
Artist: Ed Mcguinness

Writer: Mark Waid
Artist: Alan Davis

I'd like to see the writer(s) to show us the difference of Billy when he's a teenager and when he's an adult hero with the wisdom of Solomon.

[T-Bolt]

Seriously, what makes the little mad scientist any less credible than the little psychopath who controls minds?

It's superheroes; NONE of them should take themselves too seriously.



Jeff Smith did it. Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam does it. It's just that no one is reading it.

The Jeff Smith miniseries really dissapointed me, I expected something a lot more exciting and over the top. I did like his take on Mary, but aside from the pretty pictures, the book is a bore. Ordway got the characters and had a geat run with them, don't know if DC wants to go back to that well, tho.

[Duy]

The Jeff Smith miniseries really dissapointed me, I expected something a lot more exciting and over the top. I did like his take on Mary, but aside from the pretty pictures, the book is a bore. Ordway got the characters and had a geat run with them, don't know if DC wants to go back to that well, tho.
Sorry, sir, I have to completely disagree with you. I loved Smith's book, and so did my 11-year-old nephew and 5-year-old niece, and 32-year-old brother. It was quite honestly the first book I bought for the entire family, and it paid off in spades.

Ordway's take - THAT was the bore. It was so muddled up in ridiculous minutiae and Billy just looked like a moron for a good portion of the time. I was not a fan at all. Having said that, I showed the kids the Power of Shazam GN that kicked off that entire run and they laughed out loud - with no external provocation whatsoever - at the scene where Billy got his powers and started beating up the wizard.

"That trick may have worked on my parents, but I lived on the streets." Ugh.

[Pól Rua]

Really?
Lol, Captain Marvel's rouges gallery has Bwahaha..... written all over it. :biggrin:
Arson Fiend, Doctor Smashi, Jorrk, Mr. Mind, Rowdy Sparkle, The Dummy, Mr. Who, Oggar, and King Kull, just to name a few.
Yeah, but they're light-hearted and fantastical. Whereas Giffen & DeMatteis' approach seems driven by cynicism and mockery.


These guys are cheesecake city, and so is Billy, and the rest of his white bread gullible family.
Bwahaha.... is the way to go with Captain Marvel.
Hell no. Yeah, sure, Cap is optimistic, light-hearted and fantastical... but that doesn't make him into a gullible half-witted grinning idiot the way he's depicted in the Giffen/DeMatteis books.

He needs to be written as a character aimed at kids, not as a character aimed at a bunch of jaded faux-cynics who think that genuinely good, noble and heroic characters can only be the subject of cynical mockery or some kind of hepcat irony.

[Duy]

Yeah, but they're light-hearted and fantastical. Whereas Giffen & DeMatteis' approach seems driven by cynicism and mockery.


Hell no. Yeah, sure, Cap is optimistic, light-hearted and fantastical... but that doesn't make him into a gullible half-witted grinning idiot the way he's depicted in the Giffen/DeMatteis books.

He needs to be written as a character aimed at kids, not as a character aimed at a bunch of jaded faux-cynics who think that genuinely good, noble and heroic characters can only be the subject of cynical mockery or some kind of hepcat irony.
To be fair, that's how everyone is written in Giffen/DeMatteis stuff. No one gets off unscathed.