View Full Version : How about Neil Gaiman for a Superman run?
NotSuper
07-29-2010, 03:54 PM
He's a great writer, a big fan of the character, and would encourage those who have never read a Superman book to pick it up. I'd like to see what he would do for the character on a one or two year run.
ArnoldoAAD
07-29-2010, 04:00 PM
I dont Know
how about Alan Moore for a Superman run?
NotSuper
07-29-2010, 04:06 PM
I dont Know
how about Alan Moore for a Superman run?
I realize you're being facetious, but why wouldn't Gaiman want to work on Superman? He's on good terms with DC and he recently wrote a Batman issue.
I'm not understanding the comparison.
carabas
07-29-2010, 04:10 PM
I realize you're being facetious, but why wouldn't Gaiman want to work on Superman?Because it's a mainstream superhero? He might do a oneshot or mini, but not a run.
Jimmy Bond
07-29-2010, 04:10 PM
I can't see him committing to a superhero book long term. He could do a mini or a special like WHTTCC. I think Paul Cornell is good enough to do whatever we may have wanted from a Gaiman Superman.
NotSuper
07-29-2010, 04:13 PM
Because it's a mainstream superhero? He might do a oneshot or mini, but not a run.
Why? Does he have some rule against year-long runs on a super-hero? Just because he's never really done it before doesn't mean he can't or wouldn't.
Ilash
07-29-2010, 04:17 PM
Why? Does he have some rule against year-long runs on a super-hero? Just because he's never really done it before doesn't mean he can't or wouldn't.
Gaiman would indeed rule but he hasn't done an ongoing at all since Sandman. He clearly likes to do a bunch of different stuff in a bunch of different media so it's unlikely that he would commit to something so time consuming.
NotSuper
07-29-2010, 04:20 PM
Gaiman would indeed rule but he hasn't done an ongoing at all since Sandman. He clearly likes to do a bunch of different stuff in a bunch of different media so it's unlikely that he would commit to something so time consuming.
True, but there's no harm in DC asking him, right? They could sweeten the pot, so to speak, and give him the power to do what he wants.
At the very least, he could do an in-continuity mini-series about Superman (around four issues).
Ilash
07-29-2010, 04:26 PM
True, but there's no harm in DC asking him, right? They could sweeten the pot, so to speak, and give him the power to do what he wants.
At the very least, he could do an in-continuity mini-series about Superman (around four issues).
Oh absolutely. Like I said, I would love a Neil Gaiman Superman story. In fact, Supes seems to be a better fit for him than Batman and if he could do such a great job with the Dark Knight, I would love to see what he could do with the other half of the World's Finest. It would most probably have toi be limited though, is all I'm saying.
It would have to be something Gaiman really wants to do, like "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader." Otherwise DC probably wouldn't be able to afford him. When they (DC) approached him about doing a Sandman anniversary miniseries Gaiman wanted to be paid the same as if he was writing a novel.
Awesome!
07-29-2010, 04:43 PM
True, but there's no harm in DC asking him, right? They could sweeten the pot, so to speak, and give him the power to do what he wants.
I'm pretty sure any time Gaiman wants to write anything at DC he has a green light. The better question would be asking him why he doesn't want to do it but I think that's pretty obvious itself.
Beacon
07-29-2010, 04:45 PM
Didn't he do a GL/Superman one-shot?
FunkyGreenJerusalem
07-29-2010, 10:40 PM
It would have to be something Gaiman really wants to do, like "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader." Otherwise DC probably wouldn't be able to afford him. When they (DC) approached him about doing a Sandman anniversary miniseries Gaiman wanted to be paid the same as if he was writing a novel.
I think that's quite a reasonable request - it would have sold through the roof.
Was it more he wanted his novel advance fee, or did he just want more than their standard rate?
Either way, I think he proved his point by taking the pitch and turning into a novel, Graveyard Book, and getting his usual advance from it (plus his take of the profits).
I would pay money to see Neil Gaiman describe Kandor.
That is all.
carabas
07-29-2010, 11:53 PM
Didn't he do a GL/Superman one-shot?Originally intended as one or two filler issues for Action Comics or whatever, lingered in some editor's drawer for years, and eventually reworked into a one-shot.
True, but there's no harm in DC asking him, right? They could sweeten the pot, so to speak, and give him the power to do what he wants.And while they're at it, they can ask Steven King if he'd like to do a run on The Flash. You just never know, right?
There is just no way that Neil Gaiman will do a few years of in-continuity Superman, with all the editorial constraint inherent in such a thing, especially since he has never expressed any in the character.
The Green Lantern/Supemrman thing was ancient, dating from before Sandman, and just a job from when he was a no-name rookie, not some personal project.
dumbstruck
07-30-2010, 05:31 AM
True, but there's no harm in DC asking him, right? They could sweeten the pot, so to speak, and give him the power to do what he wants.
At the very least, he could do an in-continuity mini-series about Superman (around four issues).
Considering Gaiman turned DC down to write an anniversary Sandman project because they wouldn't pay him the same rate he earns writing a novel, him writing a run of any title will never happen.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
07-30-2010, 06:50 AM
Considering Gaiman turned DC down to write an anniversary Sandman project because they wouldn't pay him the same rate he earns writing a novel, him writing a run of any title will never happen.
As I say, he proved his point by doing the novel though.
Pretty good negotiating tactic for next time - they know he's not bluffing about how much his work can make!
I think that's quite a reasonable request - it would have sold through the roof.
Was it more he wanted his novel advance fee, or did he just want more than their standard rate?
Either way, I think he proved his point by taking the pitch and turning into a novel, Graveyard Book, and getting his usual advance from it (plus his take of the profits).
My understanding was he wanted the same amount of money he gets writing a novel. That would probably put him a zero away from what DC wanted to pay him.
666MasterOfPuppets
07-30-2010, 11:07 AM
He's a great writer, a big fan of the character, and would encourage those who have never read a Superman book to pick it up. I'd like to see what he would do for the character on a one or two year run.
Seconded. Perhaps not a long run, but a mini. His essay on Superman is freakin' brilliant.
NotSuper
07-30-2010, 11:12 AM
And while they're at it, they can ask Steven King if he'd like to do a run on The Flash. You just never know, right?
Well, considering he was involved in the Dark Tower stuff with Marvel--not as a writer but involved--that doesn't sound that crazy.
And it's "Stephen."
Mat001
07-30-2010, 11:14 AM
King is doing some DC work in October.
Gabe De Los Muertos
07-30-2010, 12:42 PM
They can't afford him.
T Hedge Coke
07-30-2010, 01:03 PM
I realize you're being facetious, but why wouldn't Gaiman want to work on Superman? He's on good terms with DC and he recently wrote a Batman issue.
He wrote two issues of one Batman story.
The thing is, DC's not going to pay him what he can make doing to the same amount of work, elsewhere, most likely in prose. So, a lengthy run is pretty unlikely.
carabas
07-30-2010, 02:07 PM
Well, considering he was involved in the Dark Tower stuff with Marvel--not as a writer but involved--that doesn't sound that crazy.You're not up to date. King has done actual comics scripts since then. For DC, no less. But not superheroes, and not an ongoing run.
Which won't happen in a million years because Stephen King does not care about superheroes and wouldn't write 30 issues of The Flash matter how much money DC threw at him.
Same goes for Gaiman and Superman. It's just not a character he has ever shown much affection for. And writers in that tier write what they like to write, not what brings in megabucks.
Sean Walsh
07-30-2010, 04:08 PM
I can't see him committing to a superhero book long term. He could do a mini or a special like WHTTCC. I think Paul Cornell is good enough to do whatever we may have wanted from a Gaiman Superman.
Isn't Gaiman a big fan of Paul Cornell? Perhaps that Cornell's on ACTION could lure Neil toward Superman somehow....
Darrell D.
07-30-2010, 04:26 PM
Yeah, DC couldn't afford Gaiman.
And good on him, he should get paid what he's worth. Doing a run of 12 or 24 issues is time he could be using to write prose, and he certainly should be compensated accordingly.
carabas
07-30-2010, 05:20 PM
Yeah, DC couldn't afford Gaiman.Oh, I bet they can afford him, they just won't. They're too cheap to pay what they writers are worth. I don't reckon Marvel is any better in this.
Talisman
07-30-2010, 05:46 PM
I'd rather see a graphic novel by him.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
07-30-2010, 11:25 PM
They can't afford him.
They can, they just don't want to pay him that much - his stuff sells through the roof.
It's just he'd want a much bigger chunk of that than they would be prepared to give him.
Also, he probably wouldn't want to - he's only ever done one monthly, and the monthliness of it was his least favourite part.
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