View Full Version : Hulk/Thing issues 1 thru 4*spoilers possible*
Karl J. Barnes
12-13-2004, 06:41 AM
Who got this mini? Unfortunately, I did. I guess, Jones was secretly a Thing fan all a long.Who knew?
The story style was kind of interesting, yet the revisionism of the tale makes Hulk less than he is. The Thing , in their first major encounter, beat the Hulk soundly. Yeah, right. But of course, Jones couldn't tell his tale without the back-stabbing military and government people. Talk about cliche`! Plus, did we NEED 4 issues to tell this story? This story could have been a one shot with extra pages, at best. Nothing was accomplished here, otherthan me lossing out on my money.
Next time, Marvel wants to do something like this, give us something more than "This is what REALLY happened" type of revisionist story telling and actually have something to say and do.
sotosan
12-13-2004, 10:14 AM
Luckily #1 was the only one out of the four I picked up. I just could not stand the way the hulk looked. I thought the art and story in the 1st issue was terrible....I knew it would only get worse.
Darkoth
12-13-2004, 02:39 PM
I thought it was great! Then again,I am a big Thing fan. :D
Venomous
12-14-2004, 06:58 AM
I totally agree, pointless to have it in 4 issues, PAD could do it in one issue, heck everyone but Jones coudl do it in one extrasized issue.
About Thing beating the Hulk...no big deal, I even liked it. Hulk still takes a clear majority though :p
1HELLBOY
01-04-2005, 08:37 PM
I loved it, especially the last page in issue 3, that was awesome, but all in all, it was a great book
Cayman
01-05-2005, 03:35 PM
It was absolutely beautiful to look at, but it didn't have much substance. It just seemed a little pointless because we all know Ben is not just a monster. We love Ben! Ben is loved.
Cay
cable guy
01-09-2005, 09:29 AM
I just recently read all 4 issues and I have to say I thought it was great! just one thing though, I'm confused. are they editing history or was the whole story made up just to keep Hulk distracted long enough?
cable guy
01-14-2005, 04:28 AM
Anybody? Please?
Jomero
01-14-2005, 08:23 AM
I didn't read it as a rewrite in history.
The Wayner
01-14-2005, 12:19 PM
I didn't think it warranted the $3.50 cover price. I read it in the store and meh, it was okay.
tilleycs
01-17-2005, 11:48 AM
I didn't think it warranted the $3.50 cover price.
Man, preach it. :) When the series was first announced, I took one look at the cover price and said, "Nope! Maybe later, but not off the stands!" I went to a small local comic convention and picked up the first two issues for less than a dollar each. I'm planning to get #'s 3 and 4 eventually, but I'll either trade for them or pay the same price. (If anyone has them and would like to get rid of them, let me know)
They're worth a dollar each. Tops. I didn't see anything in the first two that warranted the $3.50 cover price.
I just read this. It does come off as though it's a Thing mini more than a Hulk issue. Both characters seemed...I don't know...out of character, I guess. I don't see this as being anything more than a Ben Grimm dream sequence.
I got the first issue but wasn't impressed enough to get anymore of the series.
Hulkamaniac
03-17-2005, 06:32 PM
It was good work but i agree with the fact that it could have been a one-shot or even PF would have been cheeper.
Thondred
03-19-2005, 10:42 AM
Are you guys talking about the Hulk/Thing: Hardknocks mini? Because if you are, I find it very hard to believe that any of you think it was good work. The artwork was simply atrocious, and from what I saw of the storyline ( I only flipped through, reading a couple of panels) it was not much better. I personally cannot even believe that Jae Lee can get work as a comic artist with stuff like this.
cable guy
03-19-2005, 11:51 AM
Are you guys talking about the Hulk/Thing: Hardknocks mini? Because if you are, I find it very hard to believe that any of you think it was good work. The artwork was simply atrocious, and from what I saw of the storyline ( I only flipped through, reading a couple of panels) it was not much better. I personally cannot even believe that Jae Lee can get work as a comic artist with stuff like this.
I really liked the story, but it could have been done in 2 issues. I say 2 because it had that mild cliffhanger at the end of issue 2.
Eric H.
03-19-2005, 12:00 PM
Are you guys talking about the Hulk/Thing: Hardknocks mini? Because if you are, I find it very hard to believe that any of you think it was good work. The artwork was simply atrocious, and from what I saw of the storyline ( I only flipped through, reading a couple of panels) it was not much better. I personally cannot even believe that Jae Lee can get work as a comic artist with stuff like this.
I thought it was great. I'm a huge Jae Lee fan and wasn't put off by the fact that he made Hulk and Grimm ... well ugly. They're supposed to look like monsters or freaks. The backstory was handled very well imo. The only thing I'd have liked to have seen was an actual winner in the present day fight. But other than that I don't have any complaints.
Have you guys seen Jae Lee's cover to #82? If you weren't a fan or hated his Hard Knocks work you'll probably still hate it. But I think it's even better than his work in HK. And really if you look closely, Jack Kirby's Frankenstein's Monster inspiration for the Hulk is evident.
Thondred
03-19-2005, 12:20 PM
No I have not seen the cover to #82, but as I am far from a Jae Lee fan, I doubt that I would like it. However, I would like to ask, what is it about this type of art that you like? I do not understand the appeal. To me it just looks like badly rendered figures with somewhat of a abstract feel.
Eric H.
03-19-2005, 01:03 PM
No I have not seen the cover to #82, but as I am far from a Jae Lee fan, I doubt that I would like it. However, I would like to ask, what is it about this type of art that you like? I do not understand the appeal. To me it just looks like badly rendered figures with somewhat of a abstract feel.
Here's a link to where you can see it:
http://www.comicboards.com/hulk/view.php?trd=050318210319
It's a perfect example of what I love about his work. He's able to show off the grace and beauty of one aspect and mesh it seemlessly with the awkwardness and ugliness of another.
I'm not a fan of abstract or metaphoric artists (in comics). Like Bill Sienkewicz(spelling is probably wrong), Sam Keith, David Mack. I don't get a similiar impression from Jae Lee's style. I don't know exactly where his style can be categorized.
Since the relaunch I've loved Jae Lee's and Mike Deodato's art. I've liked Kyle Hotz, Lee Weeks and Leandro Fernandez. I'm neutral about Stuart Immonen. I didn't like Garney's and Romita Jr's work. And I thought Robertson's and Braithwaite's art was awful. My tastes vary I suppose.
Thondred
03-19-2005, 04:25 PM
Well, I can certainly see what you mean when you say Kirby's Frankenstein monster Hulk is payed homage to. I think one of my biggest problems with his Hulk is the way it seems like the skin is just hanging off of him, as if he were extremely old. This is evident in the left arm of the cover for #82.
I'm also surprised that you didn't care for Garney and Romita Jr. Immonen is another artist who's work I don't care for, while I don't recall anything about Hotz. Deodato I thought drew him way too big, while weeks is almost perfect.
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