Best Brand New Day arc so far..(Now With Poll)

[Cheesedique]

Was wondering which BND arc you guys and gals thought was the best, or should I say, your favorite, and why.

This is NOT a thread in which to bash the direction the books took or the editorial staff. Thanks in advance.

Also, I went ahead and threw in Grim Hunt even though it's not over yet. Also, feel free to break down longer arcs like The Gauntlet via the 'Other' choice (for something like "Mysterioso").

EDIT: This was supposed to be poll-based, but I clicked too soon..stay tuned.

[Jim Thompson]

Was wondering which BND arc you guys and gals thought was the best, or should I say, your favorite, and why.

This is NOT a thread in which to bash the direction the books took or the editorial staff. Thanks in advance.

Also, I went ahead and threw in Grim Hunt even though it's not over yet. Also, feel free to break down longer arcs like The Gauntlet via the 'Other' choice (for something like "Mysterioso").Mark Waid's Unscheduled Stop. I thought that was a great little arc that captured much of what makes Spider-Man work for me, and introduced a potentially interesting new character J. Jonah Jameson, Sn.

[Will.S]

Doesn't the Brand New Day stuff technically end here?

http://comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/274/134974_20080703013856_large.jpg

[Jim Thompson]

Doesn't the Brand New Day stuff technically end here?

http://comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/274/134974_20080703013856_large.jpgThat's a great cover!

[arp2008]

That's a great cover!
Too bad the contents aren't.

[Dan_Slott]

Too bad the contents aren't.

Wait! This's groundbreaking! Previously you've said you've NEVER read any issues of BND. Are you saying you've FINALLY tried some? 'Cause that would be VERY open-minded of you. Thanks.

I think more people should follow arp2008's excellent example and actually read what's on the inside of the book before making any judgments about it. Good for you, sir!

[Will.S]

That's a great cover!
Yeah it's certainly eye popping.

[Jim Thompson]

Yeah it's certainly eye popping.Yeah, when he is on, he really knocks stuff out of the park, I think. I just find him to be very inconsistent, personally.

[Will.S]

Yeah, when he is on, he really knocks stuff out of the park, I think. I just find him to be very inconsistent, personally.
I agree, especially as of late.

I like the style for the most part but it's not the most fluid or easy to follow.

[arp2008]

Wait! This's groundbreaking! Previously you've said you've NEVER read any issues of BND. Are you saying you've FINALLY tried some? 'Cause that would be VERY open-minded of you. Thanks.Are you sure I've I said that? I may have said "don't" because times most of the stories simply don't interest me or that I don't "buy" the title for the same aforementioned reason, but NEVER? No, that's not me.


I think more people should follow arp2008's excellent example and actually read what's on the inside of the book before making any judgments about it. Good for you, sir!Yep. They should follow my example, all right, and not buy four dollars titles or titles that raze decades of history and one of the most heartwarming relationships in fiction by way of a retcon. You have no idea how much I abhor retcons.

[Jim Thompson]

I agree, especially as of late.

I like the style for the most part but it's not the most fluid or easy to follow.It can be, and I think he's improved over time, but there are still times when I don't care much for his compositions and layouts.

That said, his art was about the only thing I enjoyed about the latest Lizard arc.

[arp2008]

Mark Waid's Unscheduled Stop. I thought that was a great little arc that captured much of what makes Spider-Man work for me, and introduced a potentially interesting new character J. Jonah Jameson, Sn.Ditto! And why was it so, I'm sure you're all no doubt wondering? Because it had nigh nothing to do with the changes made by the retcon. It was like what the title would have been has it not been unnecessarily raped.

[Jim Thompson]

Back to the thread, I thought the Electro Arc was pretty good, too -- and the Rhino story was pretty well done.

[arp2008]

Back to the thread, I thought the Electro Arc was pretty good, too -- and the Rhino story was pretty well done.The artistry in the Rhino arc was incredible at times. At others, it had me wondering how this guy landed a job.

[Jim Thompson]

The artistry in the Rhino arc was incredible at times. At others, it had me wondering how this guy landed a job.Yeah, I agree the art wasn't the best, but the story itself was pretty good, I thought. I don't think it's in the same league as "Flowers for Rhino", but since the start of the new direction, that's been one of the stories I've enjoyed.

[Froggy]

Back to the thread, I thought the Electro Arc was pretty good, too -- and the Rhino story was pretty well done.

I loved the electro arc

the sandman one was good IMO, really good

[Jim Thompson]

I loved the electro arc

the sandman one was good IMO, really goodI thought the Sandman arc was okay. Not great, but not bad.

[NickFury90]

"Kamina's Castle" and "Shed" are some of my favorite Spidey stories of all-time. "Grim Hunt" is shaping up to be really good, too. The Paparazzi/Unscheduled Stop are awesome, with that wonderful Marcos Martin artwork. I quite liked ASM #600 and its the shining example on how anniversary issues should be(DC failed on that count THREE times in the last month).

Out of all of them, I'm leaning toward "Shed", but that's probably because its the most recent. Amazing story, though.

[Jim Thompson]

...(DC failed on that count THREE times in the last month). Just a quick side note: Couldn't disagree with you more here. I liked all those anniversary issues. The only one I think Marvel put out that was comparable in terms of how much I enjoyed hem was Thor's anniversary issue.

[Joseph C.]

Dan Slott's and JrJr's New Ways to Die was great and my favorite Spider-Man story arc I've ever read.

[Will.S]

With regards to Shed, having finally read it I thought it was a mixed bag. On one hand the ideas were interesting but the execution left something to be desired.

Like I still continue to hate the whole Peter/Felicia dynamic to the point in which I'm completely turned off by Felicia as a character now since she's lost a lot of redeeming value. And while I liked the handling of the Lizard himself with regards to pushing him to a point of no return, his new'ish powers (and somewhat silly new look) was portrayed in a way that was truly bizarre and disturbing.

Especially for a Spider-Man title.

[Cheesedique]

I quite liked ASM #600 and its the shining example on how anniversary issues should be(DC failed on that count THREE times in the last month).



Out of the 3 DC issues you mention, I only read Batman #700, which I thought was piss-poor. And this is coming from a huge Morrison fan, and a Batman-by-Morrison fan. I can barely remember a thing about the issue now.

Not that I thought ASM #600 was a lot better, mind you, but better it was.

[Froggy]

I thought the Sandman arc was okay. Not great, but not bad.I think it was moreso the end of it, the last issue that got me choked up


Just a quick side note: Couldn't disagree with you more here. I liked all those anniversary issues. The only one I think Marvel put out that was comparable in terms of how much I enjoyed hem was Thor's anniversary issue. and YES THOR 600 was godly
pun intended

[NickFury90]

Just a quick side note: Couldn't disagree with you more here. I liked all those anniversary issues. The only one I think Marvel put out that was comparable in terms of how much I enjoyed hem was Thor's anniversary issue.

I enjoyed Batman #700 and the Amanda Couller story of WW, but they still paled in comparison to ASM #600. I felt ripped off paying five bucks for 33 pages and a bunch of fricken' pin-ups with Batman #700.

[Scott Taylor]

Dan Slott's and JrJr's New Ways to Die was great and my favorite Spider-Man story arc I've ever read.

Yah. The more I think about it, the more I like this one.

[MisterSmith]

"Kamina's Castle" and "Shed" are some of my favorite Spidey stories of all-time. "Grim Hunt" is shaping up to be really good, too. The Paparazzi/Unscheduled Stop are awesome, with that wonderful Marcos Martin artwork. I quite liked ASM #600 and its the shining example on how anniversary issues should be(DC failed on that count THREE times in the last month).

Out of all of them, I'm leaning toward "Shed", but that's probably because its the most recent. Amazing story, though.

I think I'm basically in complete agreement with you.

[Kevin Nichols]

Mark Waid's Unscheduled Stop. I thought that was a great little arc that captured much of what makes Spider-Man work for me, and introduced a potentially interesting new character J. Jonah Jameson, Sn.

Unscheduled Stop was great stuff! Was that Marcos Martin's first work on Spider-Man? I can't remember now, but it was definitely the story that made me recognize his amazing talent.


Back to the thread, I thought the Electro Arc was pretty good, too -- and the Rhino story was pretty well done.

Electro has never been my favorite character and (as usual) I found his Gauntlet story to be blah. The Rhino story, on the other hand, I thought was brilliant.


With regards to Shed, having finally read it I thought it was a mixed bag. On one hand the ideas were interesting but the execution left something to be desired.

Like I still continue to hate the whole Peter/Felicia dynamic to the point in which I'm completely turned off by Felicia as a character now since she's lost a lot of redeeming value. And while I liked the handling of the Lizard himself with regards to pushing him to a point of no return, his new'ish powers (and somewhat silly new look) was portrayed in a way that was truly bizarre and disturbing.

Especially for a Spider-Man title.

The Lizard's new look IS pretty silly. But, other than that, I really enjoyed Shed. To me, the Lizard's always been a one-trick pony. And I never understood Spidey's never-ending sympathy for him. The first couple of times were OK, but after awhile it's like how many people does the Lizard have to kill before Spidey stops feeling bad for him? Now that he has killed Billy, perhaps he's finally crossed that line.

[Jay R.]

Like right have most plots reading same listed then.

[CyberHubbs]

Hard for me to decide.

Of the more recent stories, the Rhino two-parter and Slott's Mysterioso were my favorites. Pre-600, the Paparazzi arc and Character Assassination. American Son would come in third.

[Mikey Brown]

New Ways to Die
American Son
Shed
24/7
Electro/Sandman/Rhino/Mysterio Gauntlet arcs
Spider Man 600

[Leocomix]

There were very few arcs to chose from (BND finished two years ago) but the new Kraven Girl was a good one. Most of the stories quoted aren't from BND.

[Duy]

Honestly? I can read Book 3 (Peter Parker: Paparazzi and the Bookie vs Enforcers Saga) and Death and Dating any time. And I loved Something Can Stop the Juggernaut. Absolutely loved it.

Any time we've got Dan Slott, Mike McKone, Roger Stern, Marcos Martin, Mark Waid, and Lee Weeks in any kind of combination, I am so totally sold.

[Karl Cook]

I'd go with "Sometimes It Snows In April" and "Unscheduled Stop".

[Aziz Abbasi]

My favorite arc is the first one by Slott & McNiven
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So good the contents are fun.Here, truer than your original post

[Mister Mets]

Poll forthcoming.

[Mister Mets]

Was wondering which BND arc you guys and gals thought was the best, or should I say, your favorite, and why.

This is NOT a thread in which to bash the direction the books took or the editorial staff. Thanks in advance.

Also, I went ahead and threw in Grim Hunt even though it's not over yet. Also, feel free to break down longer arcs like The Gauntlet via the 'Other' choice (for something like "Mysterioso").

EDIT: This was supposed to be poll-based, but I clicked too soon..stay tuned.

I'll add a poll, but I'm going to wait a week since it's more appropriate to do this after "Grim Hunt" comes to an end.

[The Superior Michael Deery]

I loved Slott and McNivens first arc. I was going to drop the book but the strenght of that arc kept me

[Jim Thompson]

I loved Slott and McNivens first arc. I was going to drop the book but the strength of that arc kept meI went back and re-read that the other day, and while I still don't think it's a particularly strong arc, it was better than I remembered it being.

[E. Wilson]

I've actually liked several of the post-2007 arcs. I'm going to single out the Hammerhead two-parter because I don't see it getting a lot of love.

[tornshattered]

spidey|ff;
24/7;
american son.

[sirvk]

There were very few arcs to chose from (BND finished two years ago) but the new Kraven Girl was a good one. Most of the stories quoted aren't from BND.

By BND they mean since the new status quo, it is all kind of a 100 issue arc.

I remember reading the first part of that hammerhead arc and thinking that it was one of the best stories I've read, so I would say that is my favourite along with American Son, Shed and the 600th issue. Grim Hunt too, although it isn't over yet. I thought bringing Kraven back could be the worst thing to happen to ASM, but I actually like it now.

[coconutphone]

Wait! This's groundbreaking! Previously you've said you've NEVER read any issues of BND. Are you saying you've FINALLY tried some? 'Cause that would be VERY open-minded of you. Thanks.

I think more people should follow arp2008's excellent example and actually read what's on the inside of the book before making any judgments about it. Good for you, sir!

Do you now just follow posters who don't like the book and post exclusively to them? Kinda seems that way.

[Dan_Slott]

Do you now just follow posters who don't like the book and post exclusively to them?
Nah. Though I'm quite fond of the guys who've read less than 2% of the 90+ issue run-- and yet feel the need to spend great swaths of time coming to the boards to bash it. There's a very special place in my heart for those wayward souls. :wink:

[E. Wilson]

Hey, Mr. Slott: what's your favorite post-2007 Spidey arc?

[coconutphone]

Nah. Though I'm quite fond of the guys who've read less than 2% of the 90+ issue run-- and yet feel the need to spend great swaths of time coming to the boards to bash it. There's a very special place in my heart for those wayward souls. :wink:

I look forward to these posts of yours where you don't just bash the people who don't like the book. Is there a way to set up an e-mail alert notifciation for when these do eventually appear?

[John Zaleski]

That's a great cover!

Yeah Bachalo has established himself as one of my favorite artists for sure.


Too bad the contents aren't.

Seriously? You remember hating this specific issue, when you hate every comic? That was jsut an unnecessary comment that shows you will use anything as an excuse to complain.

[Dan_Slott]

Hey, Mr. Slott: what's your favorite post-2007 Spidey arc?

To be fair, I gotta do this for all my fellow Spidey-Writers...
So, in chronological order:

Zeb and Chris's SOMETIMES IT SNOWS IN APRIL.
Bob and Mike's THE OTHER SPIDER-MAN.
Mark and Marcos' UNSCHEDULED STOP.
Marc and JR JR's CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.
Fred and Javier's KEEMIA'S CASTLE
Joe and Max's RAGE OF THE RHINO/ENDANGERED SPECIES
and, of course, Roger and Lee's SOMETHING CAN STOP THE JUGGERNAUT

That's a WHOLE lot a' spidery-goodness there! Seriously, those are all gems! And combined just THOSE issues constitute over 20% of the run to date! And there are so many OTHER home runs that don't get mentioned in there: AMERICAN SON, SHED, GRIM HUNT, the stories that brought back Electro, Chameleon, and Hammerhead! The giant-sized Punisher team-up, FLASHBACKS (imo, Marc wrote one of the best MARVEL done-in-ones in YEARS with that issue! And Barry's art was fantastic!)! It's REALLY hard to pick!

[Jim Thompson]

By BND they mean since the new status quo, it is all kind of a 100 issue arc.That's how I took your meaning. A lot of people seem to use BND to refer to what's been done since the start of the new editorial direction.

[Jim Thompson]

and, of course, Roger and Lee's SOMETHING CAN STOP THE JUGGERNAUTI forgot about this one, but I agree, it was pretty enjoyable, too.

[John Zaleski]

Character Assassination

New Ways to Die

Shed (never have i once enjoyed art so much in a comic book)

[ShaggyB]

To be fair, I gotta do this for all my fellow Spidey-Writers...
So, in chronological order:

Zeb and Chris's SOMETIMES IT SNOWS IN APRIL.
Bob and Mike's THE OTHER SPIDER-MAN.
Mark and Marcos' UNSCHEDULED STOP.
Marc and JR JR's CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.
Fred and Javier's KEEMIA'S CASTLE
Joe and Max's RAGE OF THE RHINO/ENDANGERED SPECIES
and, of course, Roger and Lee's SOMETHING CAN STOP THE JUGGERNAUT

That's a WHOLE lot a' spidery-goodness there!

if i may ask, What was your favorite one you did? (thats been released)

[Dan_Slott]

if i may ask, What was your favorite one you did? (thats been released)

Oy. I'm too close to my stuff to pick. And I really have had a BLAST working with EVERY SINGLE ARTIST that I was lucky enough to be paired off with! :biggrin:

[Jim Thompson]

Oy. I'm too close to my stuff to pick. And I really have had a BLAST working with EVERY SINGLE ARTIST that I was lucky enough to be paired off with! :biggrin:I liked the two issue arc you did in ASM 590-91 with Kitson.

[oldschool]

Hmmm, this is tough. Much easier to pick the stories I didn't like since BND launched but, off the top of my head, my favorites would be:

*Unscheduled Stop

*Rhino Two-Parter

*"Something Can Stop The Juggernaut"

*Whatever happened to Flash Thompson?

*FVL's Spot issue

*Mysterio arc

**It's not an issue of ASM "proper" but the Slott/Kubert Spidey Dark Reign tie-in was excellent!

"Grim Hunt" has the potential to make this list, but wanna see how it ends. I though "New Ways To Die" started out fantastic, but it faltered at the end. I think both "American Son" and "Shed" just miss making this list for me.

[Jim Thompson]

*Whatever happened to Flash Thompson?

*FVL's Spot issue

Forgot about both these, too, but I liked them as well.

[Rahul]

I haven't read much but Spidey hasnt interested in me in a while since BND....save for the following:-

1. Zeb Wells and Chris Bachalo's starting arc with the Deity.

2. Amazing Spider-Man issue with the Punisher(forgot the number).

3. Amazing Spider-Man Extra 2 with Wolverine guest starring.

The rest which I've read have been disappointing to various degrees. But Grim Hunt looks promising.

[comicfan411]

american son.great art and story.new ways to die is also my favorite.

[whiteshark]

Generally speaking since the start of Amazing Spider-Man i just have been reading good Spidey stories.
So from all those cool Spider-Man stories the best ones so far were#

-Amazing Spider-Man#546 to 548 by Dan Slott and Steve McNiven.Just a brilaint first story arc for Spider-Man new phase of stories and with the first apearence of one of the best new Spidey villains all ilustrated by a quality illustrator.

-Amazing Spider-Man#555 to 557.Sometimes it snows in April.A good example of a story arc of Spider-Man be great both in story and art.

-Amazing Spider-Man#559 to 561.Peter Parker Paparazzi.The first story arc illustrated by Marcos Martin,one of the best new artists to illustrate Spider-Man stories in many years.With a great story to boot as well.

Amazing Spider-Man#565 to 567.Again another story great both in art and writing.With the first apearences of very relevants new Spidey villains.

Amazing Spider-Man#568 to 573.One of the most action packed story arcs i enjoyed reading in the Spider-Man stories.

Amazing Spider-Man#575 and 576.Family Ties.One of my all time favorite Hammerhead stories in a cool story arc be it either art wise or story wise.

Amazing Spider-Man#577. A great team up story of Spider-Man and Punisher.

Amazing Spider-Man#578 and 579.A classic Spider-Man story arc which deserves to be seen as one of the best Spider-Man stories in my opinion.

Amazing Spider-Man#584 to 588. Just a great script illustrated in a great way by John Romita Jr makes this one of the best Story arcs in ASM since ths start of BND.

Amazing Spider-Man#589. Van Lente had already wrote a cool limited series with some C-villains in Villains Team Up Modok 11,and took one of the characters of that story back to Spidey stories in a funny story.

Amazing Spider-Man#590 and 591.One thing that the Spidey stories in Amazing Spider-Man had been great was the team up stories Spidey had with other super heroes,and this is no exception.A proper story which shows how Spider-Man is almost family to the Fantastic Four in a cool scenario and in a creative way move forward the subplots of the stories of Spider-Man.

Amazing Spider-Man#600. Its what a cool centenary issue of a Spider-Man story should be.

Amazing Spider-Man#606 and 607.The return of Black Cat was in one of the best story arcs of Amazing Spider-Man since the start of BND.So a double win there.

Amazing Spider-Man#612 to 614.The start of the Gauntlet was thriling in a story arc by Mark Waid and Paul Azaceta,with Electro being the first villain to be re-invented in the context of the Gauntlet.

Amazing Spider-Man#617 and 625.Post ASM#600 one of the best examples of great Spider-Man stories.Especially in the writing aspect.

Amazing Spider-Man#618 to 620.One of the best Mysterio story arcs.

Amazing Spider-Man#627 to 629. A continuation of one of the best stories of Spider-Man by Roger Stern and Lee Weeks.Enough said.

Amazing Spider-Man#630 to 633.Another great example of how the Gauntlet have been where the best stories of classic Spidey villains been made.

As a side note after having read just the first two chapters of Grim Hunt,i d say that it will be one of the best story arcs in Amazing Spider-Man since the start of the BND as well.

[Mikey Brown]

Hmmm, this is tough. Much easier to pick the stories I didn't like since BND launched but, off the top of my head, my favorites would be:

*Unscheduled Stop

*Rhino Two-Parter

*"Something Can Stop The Juggernaut"

*Whatever happened to Flash Thompson?

*FVL's Spot issue

*Mysterio arc

**It's not an issue of ASM "proper" but the Slott/Kubert Spidey Dark Reign tie-in was excellent!

"Grim Hunt" has the potential to make this list, but wanna see how it ends. I though "New Ways To Die" started out fantastic, but it faltered at the end. I think both "American Son" and "Shed" just miss making this list for me.Damn, I forgot all about that one!! Kubert does not draw enough comics! Though Spider-Man/Wolverine is quickly becoming a classic. Too bad its not ongoing.

[comicfan411]

asm #591 has a continuity issue.im not saying what it is.try to find out.

[oldschool]

asm #591 has a continuity issue.im not saying what it is.try to find out.

Too lazy. Spill it.

[Dan_Slott]

I look forward to these posts of yours where you don't just bash the people who don't like the book.
No offense, but I'm of the opinion that someone needs to experience more than 2% of the 90+ issues we've put out-- to QUALIFY as someone who "doesn't like the book."

I don't have a problem with people who've actually read it and are critical with what's come out.

I think it's REASONABLE of me to take some well deserved shots at someone who's gotten their info 2nd hand-- or through incomplete peeks at preview pages-- while still chronically showing up on the boards for 2 and 1/2 years to whinge-about-the-thing-they-haven't-read-for-themselves. That's a silly person. And I should be able to take shots at a silly person.

When you look at THIS thread, there are lot of CBR posters here who are talking about their love of different BND arcs-- arcs by guys like Joe Kelly and Mark Waid-- with art from superstars like John Romita Jr. and Michael Lark!

There's OBVIOUS merit to the the arcs that are being lauded in this thread. Yet it boggles my mind that there are some posters who devote great swaths of time to complain about something they haven't REALLY given a fair shot to-- just to piss in the soup, derail threads, and voice their displeasure about skewed 2nd hand info they've heard from partisan parties.

It's frustrating. Because I think that comic book fans are a bunch of fun-loving guys. And when they work towards things in positive ways (like the SPIDER-GIRL fans who kept that book going for 130 issues THROUGH their efforts), they can make good things happen-- as opposed to just hating on something in principle-- WITHOUT even experiencing it for THEMSELVES.

That's my 2¢.

[normanosborn21]

I think it's REASONABLE of me to take some well deserved shots at someone who's gotten their info 2nd hand-- or through incomplete peeks at preview pages-- while still chronically showing up on the boards for 2 and 1/2 years to whinge-about-the-thing-they-haven't-read-for-themselves. That's a silly person. And I should be able to take shots at a silly person.

.

.

i don't mind telling you i had to look up whinge in the dictionary, by the way it means to complain. are you showing off or is your thesaurus handy?

[Dan_Slott]

i don't mind telling you i had to look up whinge in the dictionary, by the way it means to complain. are you showing off or is your thesaurus handy?

Sorry. Spent my teen years in the UK-- some Brit-speak sneaks in every now and then. As well as a few extra U's if I'm not careful. (Like when I type "colour").

[oldschool]

Sorry. Spent my teen years in the UK-- some Brit-speak sneaks in every now and then. As well as a few extra U's if I'm not careful. (Like when I type "colour").

Ah yes....and "parlour".

[Karl Cook]

Sorry. Spent my teen years in the UK-- some Brit-speak sneaks in every now and then. As well as a few extra U's if I'm not careful. (Like when I type "colour").

Whereabouts in the UK did you live, Dan?

[Dan_Slott]

Whereabouts in the UK did you live, Dan?

London. About 4 or 5 blocks from Victoria Station. :)

[Karl Cook]

London. About 4 or 5 blocks from Victoria Station. :)

I've only been to London once - when I was fifteen - and haven't been back since, even though I keep promising myself I'll get around to revisiting there eventually.
If you don't mind me asking, how long did you live there for?

[Karl Cook]

Ah yes....and "parlour".

That is the correct spelling. Well done!:biggrin:

[arachnid-guy]

Sorry. Spent my teen years in the UK-- some Brit-speak sneaks in every now and then. As well as a few extra U's if I'm not careful. (Like when I type "colour").


I remember you mentioned on yo' twitter that you used to frequent Forbidden Planet, in your younger days?

I was there yesterday, and for some reason I thought of you. Perhaps it was the fact that I was buying the first part of your recent Mysterio arc (sadly missed it first time round!) and it just triggered the memory when I saw your byline.

I hope you're regular on the book in the coming years. Heck, dude, I used some of your work for my college thesis! :cool:

I hope I don't sound like a bit of an annonymous-internet-stalker # 124, but I suppose it's hard to give any bit of opinion on the internet, without it being read in one context or the next. But, basically, you've got a great hold on the Parker narrative and it would be a godsend if you're on the book full-time.

Preferably with Marcos. The perfect Spidey duo, for me at least! :smile:

[Dan_Slott]

I've only been to London once - when I was fifteen - and haven't been back since, even though I keep promising myself I'll get around to revisiting there eventually.
If you don't mind me asking, how long did you live there for?
About 6 years, and I visited infrequently for another 5. But it's been some time since I've been back.


I remember you mentioned on yo' twitter that you used to frequent Forbidden Planet, in your younger days?
Practically every Saturday. :)


I was there yesterday, and for some reason I thought of you. Perhaps it was the fact that I was buying the first part of your recent Mysterio arc (sadly missed it first time round!) and it just triggered the memory when I saw your byline.
Aww.


Preferably with Marcos. The perfect Spidey duo, for me at least! :smile:
I LOVE working with Marcos! He's one of my favorite artists EVER!:biggrin:

[ShaggyB]

I've only been to London once - when I was fifteen - and haven't been back since, even though I keep promising myself I'll get around to revisiting there eventually.
If you don't mind me asking, how long did you live there for?

you got one time on me... I want to go and check out london

[Cheesedique]

Okay I'm ready to weigh in--I hope everyone comes back to vote in the poll.

http://creative.myspace.com/groups/_mcb/mycupojoe/week016/ASM569_DW-100.jpg

New Ways To Die: definitely as entertained as I've been reading comics in a long while--great summation of everything in the Spider-verse up to that point, including Gargan-Venom and Norman's rise to power. Also got me into the Ellis-penned Thunderbolts for a time. JR Jr.'s art is great in this arc as well.


tied with

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Red Headed Stranger: love the premise, love to see a meaner, more twisted Chameleon; the story unfolded in a very cool, cinematic way, and it was great to see fake Pete talking to people and doing things in a way he never would. I thoguht MJ was brought back in a decent enough way in Van Lente's postscript issue--more's the pity they've chosen not to do much of anything with her since she's returned.


There have been lots of bright spots in the run as a whole as well--Ana Kraven, Screwball and Vulture III have all been great new characters. There were some good revamps of classic support characters as well, like Flash's war injury and JJJ becoming Mayor.

[Three]

In order from greatest to almost greatest:

1. New Ways to Die
2. Shed
3. American Son
4. Character Assassination
5. Who Was Ben Reilly?

"Grim Hunt" should make it to my number one depending on its conclusion.

Favorite new villains, from greatest to great:
1. Paper Doll (the whole concept is awesome)
2. Menace
3. Mr. Negative
4. Screwball
5. Rulture

Favorite supporting cast members since BND:
1. Black Cat
2. Harry
3. Carlie
4. Michelle
5. Norah

[Kevin Nichols]

Man, there have been some really great arcs mentioned here that I forgot about! Red-Headed Stranger was great! Character Assassination too. And the Mysterio arc! That one is easily my favorite Mysterio of all time. Marcos Martin is amazing, especially the covers of those issues.

[Duy]

No offense, but I'm of the opinion that someone needs to experience more than 2% of the 90+ issues we've put out-- to QUALIFY as someone who "doesn't like the book."

I don't have a problem with people who've actually read it and are critical with what's come out.

I think it's REASONABLE of me to take some well deserved shots at someone who's gotten their info 2nd hand-- or through incomplete peeks at preview pages-- while still chronically showing up on the boards for 2 and 1/2 years to whinge-about-the-thing-they-haven't-read-for-themselves. That's a silly person. And I should be able to take shots at a silly person.

When you look at THIS thread, there are lot of CBR posters here who are talking about their love of different BND arcs-- arcs by guys like Joe Kelly and Mark Waid-- with art from superstars like John Romita Jr. and Michael Lark!

There's OBVIOUS merit to the the arcs that are being lauded in this thread. Yet it boggles my mind that there are some posters who devote great swaths of time to complain about something they haven't REALLY given a fair shot to-- just to piss in the soup, derail threads, and voice their displeasure about skewed 2nd hand info they've heard from partisan parties.

It's frustrating. Because I think that comic book fans are a bunch of fun-loving guys. And when they work towards things in positive ways (like the SPIDER-GIRL fans who kept that book going for 130 issues THROUGH their efforts), they can make good things happen-- as opposed to just hating on something in principle-- WITHOUT even experiencing it for THEMSELVES.

That's my 2¢.

You said it, Dan. I mean, sure, I get it, people preferred Spider-Man when he was married, but I don't really see why that would be enough to deny themselves some other Spider-Man stories. Too much emphasis on "progressing," I think, and not enough on "fun." The Brand New Day books have been more fun for me than anything Spider-Man has had to offer in many, many years.

Except for Spider-Man/Human Torch. That was awesome.

[Jay R.]

Reading first Grim Hunt course made having then.

[klaww]

Im going to say Grim Hunt.
It may be the only one ive read...but its still good. :/

[sirvk]

I haven't read much but Spidey hasnt interested in me in a while since BND....save for the following:-

1. Zeb Wells and Chris Bachalo's starting arc with the Deity.

2. Amazing Spider-Man issue with the Punisher(forgot the number).

3. Amazing Spider-Man Extra 2 with Wolverine guest starring.

The rest which I've read have been disappointing to various degrees. But Grim Hunt looks promising.

I think he's the best Spider-Man writer atm too

[Fried Couch Potato]

The Chameleon-story was pretty good.

[Aziz Abbasi]

asm #591 has a continuity issue.im not saying what it is.try to find out.You are talking about the difference in time moving forward, right? First the Macroverse was shown to have its time moving g=faster than Earth time, then all of a sudden a month on Earth is a day in the Macroverse. I asked Mr. Slott about it before, but he gave me the cold shoulder

Unless there is a different continuity error you talk about

[Aziz Abbasi]

I think he's the best Spider-Man writer atm tooYou mean "Zeb Wells" or "Joe Kelly"?

[Duy]

You are talking about the difference in time moving forward, right? First the Macroverse was shown to have its time moving g=faster than Earth time, then all of a sudden a month on Earth is a day in the Macroverse. I asked Mr. Slott about it before, but he gave me the cold shoulder

Unless there is a different continuity error you talk about
They addressed this not soon after the issue was out, including some "correct" panels. I'm sure it'll be fixed in the trade.

I miss the days when an error like this would result in a no-prize.

[Dan_Slott]

They addressed this not soon after the issue was out, including some "correct" panels. I'm sure it'll be fixed in the trade.

Yeah. I screwed up. That one's all on me.

I got it right in the plot, I goofed it up in the script.
We fixed it in "patches" that we included in the letter column that ran 2 issues later (in ASM #593). And we more OFFICIALLY fixed it when we used those patches in both the hardcover and the trade.

Sorry. :(

Won't happen again. :)

[oldschool]

Yeah. I screwed up. That one's all on me.

I got it right in the plot, I goofed it up in the script.
We fixed it in "patches" that we included in the letter column that ran 2 issues later (in ASM #593). And we more OFFICIALLY fixed it when we used those patches in both the hardcover and the trade.

Sorry. :(

Won't happen again. :)

That is very gracious of you, Dan but I think he is really after that no-prize! :wink:

[Jim Thompson]

Yeah. I screwed up. That one's all on me.

I got it right in the plot, I goofed it up in the script.
We fixed it in "patches" that we included in the letter column that ran 2 issues later (in ASM #593). And we more OFFICIALLY fixed it when we used those patches in both the hardcover and the trade.

Sorry. :(

Won't happen again. :)You know, for whatever reason, those are the kind of "screw ups" that don't bother me at all. Keeping track of things like that must be a bear, and occasionally something is going to slip through the cracks, especially given the publishing schedule ASM is currently maintaining.

[John Zaleski]

All the talks about these arcs just shows me I am liking post- BND a helluuva lot more than pre-bnd

[Jim Thompson]

All the talks about these arcs just shows me I am liking post- BND a helluuva lot more than pre-bndWell -- I know personally I don't find that to be the case. I don't hate ASM like some do right now, but neither do I see the post OMD stories as being some sort of renaissance period for the book or the character. For me, this period is a considerable step down from the JMS/Bendis-era. But that's not really in keeping with the nature of this thread, so I haven't really written about it.

That said, the Aaron Spider-Man/Wolverine story is shaping up to be a story that might be one of the most enjoyable I have read in a decade. That Spider-Man story is all kinds of good right now, I think.

[Duy]

Yeah. I screwed up. That one's all on me.

I got it right in the plot, I goofed it up in the script.
We fixed it in "patches" that we included in the letter column that ran 2 issues later (in ASM #593). And we more OFFICIALLY fixed it when we used those patches in both the hardcover and the trade.

Sorry. :(

Won't happen again. :)

I want that no-prize!


All the talks about these arcs just shows me I am liking post- BND a helluuva lot more than pre-bnd

Me too!

[oldschool]

All the talks about these arcs just shows me I am liking post- BND a helluuva lot more than pre-bnd

Well, while I am greatly enjoying ASM right now, I am not sure what you mean by "pre-BND". I assume you mean the JMS period; if so, I would agree that I am enjoying the title far more right now than at any time during JMS' tenure except for his first year on the title which I still consider to be among the best runs on this title.

Otherwise, I guess I would say one of the reasons I have enjoyed this title so much from #546 right up till now is that it has felt like a recentering of what makes Spidey great, some things that I thought JMS got a bit too far from in his efforts to create a different Spidey during his tenure.

[John Zaleski]

I feel like the JMS period is a bit overrated and I think its glorified just because his name is on it. I found some of his arcs goood, while others to be just odd and they didn't feel like Spider-Man stories.

I also like how BND has brought some new villains into the fold that actually seem like they'll stick around; my favorites being Mr. Negative and Screwball (she is not really a villain but moreso just plain awesome)

[Rahul]

Well -- I know personally I don't find that to be the case. I don't hate ASM like some do right now, but neither do I see the post OMD stories as being some sort of renaissance period for the book or the character. For me, this period is a considerable step down from the JMS/Bendis-era. But that's not really in keeping with the nature of this thread, so I haven't really written about it.

That said, the Aaron Spider-Man/Wolverine story is shaping up to be a story that might be one of the most enjoyable I have read in a decade. That Spider-Man story is all kinds of good right now, I think.
Same here.....Jason Aaron should write Spidey on a regular basis!

[Jim Thompson]

Same here.....Jason Aaron should write Spidey on a regular basis!If he were to be announced as the full time writer for the book, and it went to a bi-weekly(or better still monthly) magazine again, with Kubert as the book's regular artist, I'd be very pleased indeed!

[Rahul]

If he were to be announced as the full time writer for the book, and it went to a bi-weekly(or better still monthly) magazine again, with Kubert as the book's regular artist, I'd be very pleased indeed!
Although given Kubert's slow speed it might be just a painful pleasure....

[Duy]

I didn't read much of the run between the end of the Clone Saga and before BND, but quite frankly, most of what I read was at best passable. Nothing made me want to read Spidey on a regular basis.

Not that I'm saying that the Clone Saga did towards the end there, by the way.

Exceptions would be that poker issue of Spectacular and the entire Spidey/Torch series.

[Brandon McKinnis]

It's not BND but I've really been digging "The Gauntlet" especially Shed, Grim Hunt, the Rhino and Electro arcs.

[daveageallen]

tie between new ways to die and the mysterio arc(i can never remember the name!)

to be honest i really likes all of dan slotts arcs. the FF story, the paparazi one, molten man(least liked of slotts but still enjoyed)

honerable mention :american son.

[Mister Mets]

Added a poll now that "Grim Hunt" came to an end.

[CyberHubbs]

Torn, but I'll go with Kelly and Fiumara's Rhino story.

[Spidey808]

Unscheduled Stop wins. Not just best BND story, one the best Spidey stories of the past decade. Also the MM doing the pencils!

Gauntlet: Rhino comes as close second. Kelly has been the best BND writer IMO. Not to mention he introduced Norah, which gets him bonus points.

[Joseph C.]

I loved New Ways to Die because it has one of my favorite artist (JrJr) and one of the best Spider-Man writers I've read (Dan Slott) the overall plot was pretty interesting and it had some memorable scenes with Norman fighting one on one with Menace and their banter back and forth, the first appearance of Anti-Venom, and seeing Spider-Man being pushed to his limit with Norman Osborn/Green Goblin (almost killing him)

[CSM101]

gotta go with New Ways To Die. Great art, great writing. mostly because of anti-venom.

On a totally unrelated note, does MJ know about what she did during the Brand New Day storyline? I seem to recall a panel where she says "Go get em, Tiger" after seeing him on TV

[derekakadrock]

She knows Peter is Spider-Man, but doesn't remember ever being married or making a deal with Mephisto.

[DKR]

She knows Peter is Spider-Man, but doesn't remember ever being married or making a deal with Mephisto.

There's still alot of speculation she does remember.

[Jim Thompson]

For me, it's Unscheduled Stop. I thought that was a really tight, well told, enjoyable Spider-Man story.

[Zolton]

1. Grim Hunt
2. Shed
3. Unscheduled Stop

[Chris S.]

To be fair, I gotta do this for all my fellow Spidey-Writers...
So, in chronological order:

Zeb and Chris's SOMETIMES IT SNOWS IN APRIL.
Bob and Mike's THE OTHER SPIDER-MAN.
Mark and Marcos' UNSCHEDULED STOP.
Marc and JR JR's CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.
Fred and Javier's KEEMIA'S CASTLE
Joe and Max's RAGE OF THE RHINO/ENDANGERED SPECIES
and, of course, Roger and Lee's SOMETHING CAN STOP THE JUGGERNAUT

That's a WHOLE lot a' spidery-goodness there! Seriously, those are all gems! And combined just THOSE issues constitute over 20% of the run to date! And there are so many OTHER home runs that don't get mentioned in there: AMERICAN SON, SHED, GRIM HUNT, the stories that brought back Electro, Chameleon, and Hammerhead! The giant-sized Punisher team-up, FLASHBACKS (imo, Marc wrote one of the best MARVEL done-in-ones in YEARS with that issue! And Barry's art was fantastic!)! It's REALLY hard to pick!

I have to say that those are some pretty good stories that've been told. For all my bitching about the occasional misfires with the new direction we have truly gotten some great stories. There's a few here I don't agree with, but I loved a lot of them.

Also disappointed Character Assassination is not in the poll. That'd probably be my number one!

[derekakadrock]

There's still alot of speculation she does remember.

Someone asked Brevoort on his Formspring if she remembers and he just said no. No hint that it's up in the air and we'll learn for sure in OMIT or anything... just a flat no.

[DKR]

Someone asked Brevoort on his Formspring if she remembers and he just said no. No hint that it's up in the air and we'll learn for sure in OMIT or anything... just a flat no.

Of course he'd say no.

[Duy]

For me, it's Unscheduled Stop. I thought that was a really tight, well told, enjoyable Spider-Man story.
I'm inclined to agree with you. I gave it to my girlfriend and she couldn't turn the pages quickly enough, needing to see what was happening next. That panel with the rats had her eyes jump out of her sockets.

[Karl Cook]

I voted for "Sometimes It Snows In April" and "Unscheduled Stop".
However, the poll only accepted my vote for "Unscheduled Stop"...

[Karl Cook]

I see "The Grim Hunt" is getting a lot of love here; is it really that good?

[Duy]

I see "The Grim Hunt" is getting a lot of love here; is it really that good?
I could do without Peter using his sticking power to stick onto Sasha Kravinova's face and rip her skin off. And I could also do with better artwork with more exaggeration and cartooning rather than those limp drawings that look like they were traced from photos.

But yeah, aside from those, I'd say it's pretty good.

[Karl Cook]

I could do without Peter using his sticking power to stick onto Sasha Kravinova's face and rip her skin off. And I could also do with better artwork with more exaggeration and cartooning rather than those limp drawings that look like they were traced from photos.

But yeah, aside from those, I'd say it's pretty good.

Wait... Peter ripped somebody's face off?:confused:

[Aziz Abbasi]

Wait... Peter ripped somebody's face off?:confused:Maybe the fact is Kaine is still alive & Peter is the man who died.

[Karl Cook]

Maybe the fact is Kaine is still alive & Peter is the man who died

It sounds very similar to "The Other" then?

[Jim Thompson]

I see "The Grim Hunt" is getting a lot of love here; is it really that good?It's the most recent, which certainly isn't hurting its performance in this poll, I think. That said, to answer your question, no, I personally think it's one of the weaker arcs since the start of the new direction. For me it was a lot of flash, very little bang.

[Karl Cook]

It's the most recent, which certainly isn't hurting its performance in this poll, I think. That said, to answer your question, no, I personally think it's one of the weaker arcs since the start of the new direction. For me it was a lot of flash, very little bang.

Oh, right. I guess it's another "Marmite" story then? (You either love it or hate it?)

[Mister Mets]

I could do without Peter using his sticking power to stick onto Sasha Kravinova's face and rip her skin off. And I could also do with better artwork with more exaggeration and cartooning rather than those limp drawings that look like they were traced from photos.

But yeah, aside from those, I'd say it's pretty good.Edited to add spoil boxes.

You could answer the question, without spoiling a comic book that just came out yesterday.

[Jim Thompson]

Oh, right. I guess it's another "Marmite" story then? (You either love it or hate it?)Oh, hell, I don't know. I just know I really didn't enjoy it.

[Karl Cook]

Oh, hell, I don't know. I just know I really didn't enjoy it.

Fair enough.:biggrin:

[Karl Cook]

Edited to add spoil boxes.

You could answer the question, without spoiling a comic book that just came out yesterday.

I didn't know that was from the current issue, so I've put spoiler tags on my response.
Sorry, folks.

[Mister Mets]

AC-WEB, eSoldier, Farmernudie, Fried Couch Potato, Proteus69 and anyone else who is going to choose Other (Please Specify)...

What story did you guys choose?

[Duy]

Edited to add spoil boxes.

You could answer the question, without spoiling a comic book that just came out yesterday.

Sorry about that.

[SpideyCzar]

I consider the Brand New Day era as Amazing Spider-Man #546-the current issue. Kind of how DC fans say 'Pre Crisis DCU' and 'Post Crisis DCU' #546 to me bega a whole new line of continuity, and basically a restart for the character and his supporting cast.

Think what you want about the horrendous One More Day, but Brand New Day and it's new status quo has brought us some very good to great Spider-Man stories as of late. Yes, I agree the creative teams got off to a rocky start for the first 15 issues or so of Brand New Day but I think starting with 'New Ways To Die' they found their stride and I have enjoyed Amazing Spider-Man ever since Slott's 'New Ways To Die'

Back to the topic at hand I voted for New Ways To Die but here are some of the stories that stood out to me.

-Amazing Spider-Man #600-probably one of the best anniversary issues to date from either Marvel or DC. Not really a fan of Aunt May getting married but enjoyed the Doc Ock story.

-Grim Hunt-At first was against Kraven returning but the way the story was done justified the resurection, and hell the character was dead for over 300 issues, so I am looking forward to some badass Kraven stories down the road.

-Gauntlet: Sandman by Fred Van Lente-I can't ever remember reading a good Sandman story but this story stood out as probabl the best Sandman story I've ever read.

-Gauntlet: Rhino by Joe Kelly hats off to Joe Kelly for making the Rhino a tragically sympathetic character, eager to read more stories by Joe Kelly featuring the Rhino

[coconutphone]

Oh, right. I guess it's another "Marmite" story then? (You either love it or hate it?)

You Brits have the oddest references.

:biggrin:

PS Marmite = gross. :tongue:

[Karl Cook]

You Brits have the oddest references.

:biggrin:

Yes, we do.:biggrin:


PS Marmite = gross. :tongue:

Says you!:tongue:

[Mister Mets]

Oh, right. I guess it's another "Marmite" story then? (You either love it or hate it?)

I think I'd give it a "B." Poll and new thread coming up.

[Karl Cook]

I think I'd give it a "B."

So it's good but not great then?

[Evil-Spidey]

This poll just reminded me how lackluster many of the BND were. The first few BND arcs and many of the gaunlet arcs did nothing for me except boring me to death.

[John Zaleski]

between new ways to die and character assassination

[Mister Mets]

So it's good but not great then?

In my opinion, yes. I don't love it or hate it, although I do like it. I would recommend it, but I wouldn't give it my highest possible recommendation.

I haven't read the whole story in its entirety, so I might change my view when I do that over the weekend.

[Karl Cook]

In my opinion, yes. I don't love it or hate it, although I do like it. I would recommend it, but I wouldn't give it my highest possible recommendation.

I haven't read the whole story in its entirety, so I might change my view when I do that over the weekend.

Fair enough.

[Combustible Pumpkins]

I can't pick just one. I might be able to do a top five, but I'll probably forget something. Oh well, I'll give it a shot.

Unscheduled Stop: The art was beautiful and Waid writes classic Spidey, with wonderful pacing. (Something that I miss lately, most of the newer arcs feel too rushed.)

Van Lente's Red Headed Stranger segment: Absolutely loved The Chameleon retake, tons of action and suspense, and psychologically gripping.

# 600: Although I don't really care for the new Doc Ock look, that didn't prevent me from thoroughly enjoying the Spidey / Torch interactions. Actually I remember being really impressed with how much content was in that one comic. Great work there fellas!

The Guantlet Mysterio: Artwork was wonderful and I loved that it was all about the gag!

The Guantlet (first)Rhino issue: For the very first time, i was relating to the Rhino, he was portrayed as seasoned warrior, filled with integrity; plus the love story was written well. (Too bad the ending of the second Rhino ish felt rushed, they could of held on to these ideas for a while).

[Gabe De Los Muertos]

For me it's either Grim Hunt or Unscheduled Stop. THere has been a lot of good stories, but these are my favorites.

[JGC]

I voted for "Grim Hunt". What can I say, I loved the original KLH and Grim Hunt totally won me over.

My second favourite arc was "American Son".

It seems I love Joe Kelly. Huh.

[EuphemismForSex]

Grim Hunt for me, I like the action.

[yadadaimhollaing]

Edited to add spoil boxes.

You could answer the question, without spoiling a comic book that just came out yesterday.

Thanks mets, i wont get my comics for another month and this is very much appreciated

[Evil-Spidey]

From the poll:

I liked:
New Ways to Die ((Amazing Spider-Man #568-573)
Flashbacks (Amazing Spider-Man #574)
Unscheduled Stop (Amazing Spider-Man #578-579)
American Son (Amazing Spider-Man #595-599, Extra #3)
Gauntlet: The Rhino (Amazing Spider-Man #617, 625)
Grim Hunt (Amazing Spider-Man #634-637)

Medicore:
Kraven's First Hunt (Amazing Spider-Man #565-567)
24/7 (Amazing Spider-Man #592-594)
Last Legs (Amazing Spider-Man #600)

I disliked:
Brand New Day (Amazing Spider-Man #546-548)
Sometimes It Snows in April (Amazing Spider-Man #555-557)
Gauntlet: Electro (Amazing Spider-Man #612-614)
Gauntlet: Sandman ((Amazing Spider-Man #615-616)
Shed (Amazing Spider-Man #630-633)

[Dean MD]

I came to vote, but it's closed.

I see a few differences between the two polls already.

[Mister Mets]

I came to vote, but it's closed.

I see a few differences between the two polls already.

This poll was done while One Moment in Time and Origin of the Species had yet to come out, and Grim Hunt was still ongoing.

If the poll were reopened, I doubt there would be a rush of people trying to change their vote to OMIT or Origin of the Species.

But nearly forty percent went with a story that was just coming out.

So the results of the two polls might be a little different. And I think this one worked as a way to capture the mood at CBR at a very specific time. That time has passed.

There's still a purpose for a new poll, now that it's been a few months since the BND era ended. (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=367596)

[Dean MD]

The number of Grim Hunt votes are surprising. I'm sure that now that time has passed and the whole story has come out those numbers will go down, as the new one seems to show.

I liked the first parts of Grim Hunt, and probably would have considered voting for it on the strength of the first two issues but I found the ending to be a bit weak. Spider-Man ripping a woman's face off and the return of Kraven didn't sit right with me.

[argon31pf]

'Sometimes It Snows In April' (555-557) = 0 ???!!! I can't believe it! Tight plot by Zeb Wells and detailed art by Chris Bachalo. Cameos by Dr. Strange and Wolverine. New York wrapped in a mystic blizzard. Spidey going up against a Mayan god. And that unforgettable moment with Peter and the homeless guy. C'mon people!