CBR: Daredevil Turns Killer In "Shadowland"?

[CBR News]

On the heels of its first "The Birth of the Marvel Universe's Greatest Villain" teaser, Marvel Comics has revealed a second shocking image pushing Matt Murdock down a murderous path in "Shadowland."


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26665).

[Gabe De Los Muertos]

Called it. I knew Bullseye would bite it.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Called it. I knew Bullseye would bite it.

Feh, that's barely a crime. Do a hundred hours of community service and you'll be forgiven, Matt!

[Gabe De Los Muertos]

Feh, that's barely a crime. Do a hundred hours of community service and you'll be forgiven, Matt!

Man though, Matt has come a long way. He was probably more anal than Steve Rogers about killing.

[Sighphi]

That's Bullseye killing DD.
Then he is going to Hell and fight the real devil then be revived and he will become more kick butt.

[agrich]

Man though, Matt has come a long way. He was probably more anal than Steve Rogers about killing.

Actually, he tried to kill Bullseye way back in Daredevil 181. He admitted it in a later issue...maybe 200? I forget.

Regardless, I've given up thinking Bullseye will ever actually die and be dead for good.

[Splatt]

I think there should be a rainbow in the background to accentuate the new brave bold direction DD is going.

[zur en arrh]

Man, I can't wait for Shadowland.

[The Man Without Fear]

Not all too shocking an image considering all the hints dropped over the last few months. At this point I'll be more surprised if Bullseye doesn't die in issue #1. Either way, though, he'll be back.

Also, Matt killed Nuke's helicopter pilot in Daredevil #233. He's not above killing should the situation call for it, although I think the biggest difference here is it looks like he'll be killing Bullseye when there are other options readily available.

- Manning

[CyberHubbs]

So does the first issue end with Matt getting the key to the city or something?

[CBR News]

On the heels of its first "The Birth of the Marvel Universe's Greatest Villain" teaser, Marvel Comics has revealed a second shocking image pushing Matt Murdock down a murderous path in "Shadowland."


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26665).

[Gabe De Los Muertos]

Actually, he tried to kill Bullseye way back in Daredevil 181. He admitted it in a later issue...maybe 200? I forget.

Regardless, I've given up thinking Bullseye will ever actually die and be dead for good.

Well, with the Hand involved bet on him coming back to life sometime again.

[Bevbos]

whoa! would be intense. Not that ol' Bulls doesn't deserve it. On the other hand, he's been through a lotta ---- in the last few years, what with his (second) paralysis and now this...

[daveageallen]

Man though, Matt has come a long way. He was probably more anal than Steve Rogers about killing.

steve killed people in WW2. i dount think daredevil has ever killed anyone. not even on accident.

[DannyWetts]

This is too much of a give-away. I'm guessing Bullseye won't die -- but maybe someone wearing his costume will....

Then again, maybe it's SO much of a give-away that we're expected to believe it won't happen, when in reality (er, comics), it WILL. Or something like that.

Yeah, Bullseye deserves it, but I've really warmed up to him lately.

[Aziz Abbasi]

Now they can really say "DareDevil Fist of Violence" (It was written a lot in the news during "Ann Nocienti" run on the man)

Master Izo was crazy, and DD sure made a crazy choice by listening to his late master old master

[Aziz Abbasi]

I really like Bullseye, and very much enjoyed seeing him officially a hero to the public eyes, but that thing he got was long overdo

[artiepants]

well, couldn't have happened to a nicer guy...

[Liv]

Lester! Why does Marvel only want to kill characters that I like? Well, he probably won't die anyways.

[CMBMOOL]

Finally. :tongue:

Payback's a ...you know. :biggrin:

[D. Perez]

Man for every teaser I'm getting more and more psych up for this one. I can't wait

[daveageallen]

marvel has let me down with every event so far.WWH,secret invasion, seige, dark reign, olympus...
let this please be the one that changes it all!

[XPac]

I'm not quite a DD expect... has he ever intentionally killed someone before? Or would this be a first (assuming it actually happens, and I'm guessing through some sort of loop hole or whatever it won't).

[The Man Without Fear]

I'm not quite a DD expect... has he ever intentionally killed someone before? Or would this be a first (assuming it actually happens, and I'm guessing through some sort of loop hole or whatever it won't).

From Daredevil #233:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/VanSlanzardeFanel/Daredevil233.jpg

But like I said in the other "Turns Killer" thread, I think the key difference here is Matt's going to kill Bullseye when he doesn't really have to.

- Manning

[XPac]

From Daredevil #233:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/VanSlanzardeFanel/Daredevil233.jpg

But like I said in the other "Turns Killer" thread, I think the key difference here is Matt's going to kill Bullseye when he doesn't really have to.

- Manning

Yeah, I'm willing to give him a pass for shooting at a helicopter shooting at him.

We'll see how the Bullseye thing goes down.

[Darediva]

DD also flipped a charging ninja over his head onto the sword of another ninja who was aiming for him (DD). This was very recently, in this arc that just concluded. So it's arguable at this point if he's ever killed anyone. Whether or not he did it with forethought, however, that is pretty dicey, too. It's not really seemed that he had a lot of chance to do otherwise, in the case of the helicopter, or the ninjas.

I do think he'll kill Bullseye. He's had the chance a couple of times, and this time he'll do it. Might resurrect him, though. Or someone else in the Hand will. We'll see soon enough.

[firefly13]

I love Bullseye as a villain. It's kind of like Joker to Batman. I can't see Matt killing Lester any time soon, not after his big MU experience during Dark Reign. Check out the Russian roulette issue...Matt used an empty gun then.


This is too much of a give-away. I'm guessing Bullseye won't die -- but maybe someone wearing his costume will....

Then again, maybe it's SO much of a give-away that we're expected to believe it won't happen, when in reality (er, comics), it WILL. Or something like that.

Yeah, Bullseye deserves it, but I've really warmed up to him lately.

I'm not sure if that's just the artist way of drawing Bullseye face after being gutted but I can't see Bullseye making that face.

Nice homage to Bullseye vs. Elektra.

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp355/malachi_ruttweil/comics/bullselek.jpg

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[XPac]

It really doesn't matter if someone a Daredevil character is killed... the freaking Hand will just resurrect them sooner or later.

So it's cool if DD kills him. He'll be back.

[firefly13]

It really doesn't matter if someone a Daredevil character is killed... the freaking Hand will just resurrect them sooner or later.

So it's cool if DD kills him. He'll be back.

True, that's how we got Elektra and Echo back.

Echo...I really hope she shows up soon.

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[Darth Tigris]

It really doesn't matter if someone a Daredevil character is killed... the freaking Hand will just resurrect them sooner or later.

So it's cool if DD kills him. He'll be back.

Shouldn't have ever made it that easy (do we have Miller or Millar to blame for that?). Death has to mean something to Matt or else Karen's doesn't resonate.

OT: Don't know much about Shadowland, but I just don't see DD becoming a villain. Swerve on the horizon? Regardless, whoever this 'villain' they're talking about is, Dr. Doom, Magneto and Thanos will have words with thee.

[Brother Justin Crowe]

Really feel like Lester should be wearing red in that picture...

In any event, I don't see how anyone could really think this is a poor idea. I want Clint Barton to shake his hand, for starters.

[B. Kuwanger]

I think Shadowland will be as unremarkable as every issue since issue #95, only with some "Battle for the Cowl" wackiness thrown in.

[stillanerd]

I'm just starting to get this bad and uncomfortable feeling Shadowland could wind up being a cross between Civil War and Green Lantern: Emerald Twilight...with ninjas.

Dear God, I hope I'm wrong because Daredevil has had an consistently excellent track record for years thus far and it would be a shame if Andy Diggle blew it now.

[B. Kuwanger]

I mean "Shadowland" itself is almost certainly the nerdiest name for a comic storyline ever.

Nerdiest name for a comic storyline ever.

[RatFace]

It's about freaking time!

[stillanerd]

I mean "Shadowland" itself is almost certainly the nerdiest name for a comic storyline ever.

Nerdiest name for a comic storyline ever.

Either that or the name of a novel by Peter Straub that going to become a movie. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gd7affocyQHQwPukztrC4IAS_I1Q

Or an album by k.d. lang: http://www.amazon.com/Shadowland-k-d-lang/dp/B000002LE9

Or a movie based on the marriage of C.S. Lewis and Joy Gresham starring Anthony Hopkins and Debra Winger. Although that was called ShadowLANDS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowlands_%28film%29

[the Dagman]

That pic of DD stabbing Bullseye? It's not Matt. Matt's a rightie and wears his billyclubs on his right leg, not his left.

Perhaps some mystic with the Hand harbors disapproval over being led by Matt Murdock and has created a shadow-like mirror image of him? Or actually split Matt in two, separating his mind and body into good and evil versions (like in the old Star Trek episode where Kirk went after Yeoman Rand and got scratched across the face for it), and the evil one becomes the leader the Hand follows?

For Matt to have gone evil, he would have had to totally given up his faith in the law. I just don't see that happening.

[examinationOfthe]

marvel has let me down with every event so far.WWH,secret invasion, seige, dark reign, olympus...
let this please be the one that changes it all!

I agree and I really hope they don't fuck this one up as well. Daredevil has always been my favorite and has proven to be the marvel comic that has steadily been good (the 90's don't really count). I pray they don't mess it up.

[whiteshark]

I take promotional covers for events with a graint of salt.
I dont think that is going to happen in the Shadowland,Daredevil is leading the HAND but have not turned into a anti-hero because of that.
Daredevil plan is to make the HAND a force to the good.

Anyways i am quite hyped to read Shadowlnad,and have it pre-ordered already.
A event focused in the more urban super heroes (the first event as that?) of Marvel with Ninjas in the mix sound as a win to me.
And the reactions from the more urban super heroes to Daredevil leading the Hand will be a interesting thing in the limited series.

[John Lynch]

Great to see Marvel sticking with that Age of Heroes thing. Its a nice change of pace to see iconic heroes acting with such honour and integrity.

[FearEmbodied]

There is no way I'm taking this teaser image at face value. In fact, I think Bullseye is going to die even less now.

[Patrick Hultquist]

Great to see Marvel sticking with that Age of Heroes thing. Its a nice change of pace to see iconic heroes acting with such honour and integrity.

Daredevil's iconic? Since when?

[CMBMOOL]

Daredevil's iconic? Since when?

Well who else is a blind Superhero with super-sonic sonar radar and a great example for the disable ? :biggrin:

[napafish77]

I am loving the tribute to Miller. Great stuff

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/93584610.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1276369536&Signature=FA4gqtEKJ1EtSReru0bLyQreofw%3D

[napafish77]

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/Drkemerld73/77_shadowland__bullseye_1_02.jpg


I have not been this excited about a crossover event since Civil War,

[agrich]

I am loving the tribute to Miller. Great stuff

There needs to be an homage to this classic cover

http://cache.coverbrowser.com/image/daredevil/184-2.jpg

[Tomacatawata]

Thank god they didn't do the Heroic Age dust up for Matt.

This will be my new favorite event if Matt does turn into a grey scale villain/hero with this.

[The Man Without Fear]

Echo...I really hope she shows up soon.

Me too. Jeff Parker said at HeroesCon (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/heroescon-marvel-shadowland-panel-100607.html) that she'll be coming back soon, though, so here's hoping it's in a big way.

- Manning

[the goddamn batman]

Shadowland: Bullseye #1 cover? Too bad the guns weren't rendered at the same level as the characters. :frown:

[napafish77]

Here is another nevermind added to othr post

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/12208storystory_full-2644057..jpg


http://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dd179-1.jpg

[napafish77]

Perhaps some mystic with the Hand harbors disapproval over being led by Matt Murdock and has created a shadow-like mirror image of him? Or actually split Matt in two, separating his mind and body into good and evil versions (

I think there maybe some truth to this. This last arc was called Left Hand Path. In some definitions, the Left-Hand Path is equated with malicious Black Magic. In more recent definitions, which base themselves on the terms' origins amongst Indian Tantra, the Right-Hand Path, or RHP, is seen as a definition for those magical groups which follow specific ethical codes and adopt social convention, whilst the Left-Hand Path (Snakeroot?) adopts the opposite attitude, espousing the breaking of taboo and the abandoning of set morality.

[firefly13]

Here is another nevermind added to othr post

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/12208storystory_full-2644057..jpg


http://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dd179-1.jpg

Nice add..Someone posted this soon after the teasers, for Shadowland, started to show up here on CBR. I can't remember who.

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp355/malachi_ruttweil/comics/wow_sl-1.jpg

[wayfarejourneyman]

Given the tendency of villains to magically lose the bulk of their powers when they become heroes, I wonder if the opposite will be true when matt goes overboard.

[Aziz Abbasi]

OH MAN, this event looks soooo sweeeet
Hopefully, I'm getting all covers & titles

[Tomacatawata]

I hope Marvel doesn't cop out like some people here are hoping.

I'm hopeful since it's Diggle, the crime writer. Not Slott, the silverage Superhero writer so there's far less of a chance of a copout like black magic Daredevil. And Hopeflly when he does turn to a villain he doesn't go the Parallax route in that he sometime is portrayed as mwhahaha evil and sometimes as a guy trying to write all wrongs.

But a crime writer is in charge of this. So I have hope it will be a greyish portrayal.

[ayof]

Based on these teaser images or misleading images one can assume: both Bullseye and Daredevil die and Spider-Man gets seriously injured.

Or one can assume from the Secret Invasion teasers: the entire Marvel Universe are Skrulls.

[solarstorm]

Given the tendency of villains to magically lose the bulk of their powers when they become heroes, I wonder if the opposite will be true when matt goes overboard.

Yeah. I think DD will be a far more powerful fighter when he lets go. In Brubaker's first arc, he tears up and 'tortures' Hammerhead by hitting a few nerve clusters. Bendis and Brubaker had lots of small scenes like that where they hinted that DD can do a lot more than he allows himself to.

With DD going all out, he'll be a threat. He was a more than capable fighter/hero when he held himself back. However, Iron Fist, Cage, and many other heroes have gotten upgrades while DD hasn't. I think the hand's mysticism will provide the opportunity to use some kind of ancient ninja magic to boost his power, enchant his batons, or something along those lines.

Plus, if he is leading the Hand, he'll have significant funds at his disposal and an army. A smart guy, like Matt, could do a lot with those resources. Some of the most effective villains aren't overly powerful, but rather resourceful. The Red Skull couldn't go 10 rounds with Thor, but with the right plan concocted, he could threaten the Avengers.

[paxton]

I cannot wait for this.All these teasers so far look really cool. would'nt mind this one for a poster!!!!!!

[Moose100]

Daaaaammnnn!!!

[firefly13]

Daaaaammnnn!!!

I second and third that comment. :cool:

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[Sighphi]

What's with all the killing of Bulleye art?
It's weird.

[arp2008]

Yeah. I think DD will be a far more powerful fighter when he lets go. In Brubaker's first arc, he tears up and 'tortures' Hammerhead by hitting a few nerve clusters. Bendis and Brubaker had lots of small scenes like that where they hinted that DD can do a lot more than he allows himself to.

With DD going all out, he'll be a threat. He was a more than capable fighter/hero when he held himself back. However, Iron Fist, Cage, and many other heroes have gotten upgrades while DD hasn't. I think the hand's mysticism will provide the opportunity to use some kind of ancient ninja magic to boost his power, enchant his batons, or something along those lines.

Plus, if he is leading the Hand, he'll have significant funds at his disposal and an army. A smart guy, like Matt, could do a lot with those resources. Some of the most effective villains aren't overly powerful, but rather resourceful. The Red Skull couldn't go 10 rounds with Thor, but with the right plan concocted, he could threaten the Avengers.Concured! :cool:

[PiercedMonk]

I've never really seen Daredevil as a dude who has a problem with killing when he thinks it necessary. Sure, he's not about to just start murdering guys for jaywalking, but if ever there was a Marvel hero, outside of the usual suspects like Wolverine and the Punisher, who wouldn't lose any sleep about the blood on his hands, Murdock would be top of the list.

In MAN WITHOUT FEAR, he stabbed some guy in an underwater fight, and it didn't really seem to phase him.

[napafish77]

I hope Marvel doesn't cop out like some people here are hoping.

I'm hopeful since it's Diggle, the crime writer. Not Slott, the silverage Superhero writer so there's far less of a chance of a copout like black magic Daredevil. And Hopeflly when he does turn to a villain he doesn't go the Parallax route in that he sometime is portrayed as mwhahaha evil and sometimes as a guy trying to write all wrongs.

But a crime writer is in charge of this. So I have hope it will be a greyish portrayal.

I am going to go on the record here. I believe he is being coerced or controlled by some Jedi mind thing. Someone or something is manipulating him. Left Hand Path=Black Magic. Master Izo perhaps??

[Gabe De Los Muertos]

What's with all the killing of Bulleye art?
It's weird.

It's called "foreshadowing".

[arp2008]

It's called "foreshadowing".That's a bit too explicit to be foreshadowing. If anything it's a red herring since it pretty much spoils what solites and interviews with Diggle have been implying.

[Gabe De Los Muertos]

That's a bit too explicit to be foreshadowing. If anything it's a red herring since it pretty much spoils what solites and interviews with Diggle have been implying.

There has to be a catalyst to the event, like Stamford for CW and the destruction of Bears stadium for Siege. The death of Bullseye by Matt's hand will be the catalyst for this one.

[arp2008]

There has to be a catalyst to the event, like Stamford for CW and the destruction of Bears stadium for Siege. The death of Bullseye by Matt's hand will be the catalyst for this one.Sure, but I highly doubt they'd spoil such a vital moment of the event in a teaser a whole month before it's set for release. Doing so wouldn't be very prudent at all.

[The Crime Dentist]

Sure, but I highly doubt they'd spoil such a vital moment of the event in a teaser a whole month before it's set for release. Doing so wouldn't be very prudent at all.

Sure it would. These characters don't garner a ton of attention these days, but now a lot of people who aren't Daredevil readers are interested in this event.

[arp2008]

Sure it would. These characters don't garner a ton of attention these days, but now a lot of people who aren't Daredevil readers are interested in this event.From a promotional standpoint, yes, it may be indeed. From a story standpoint, they just ruined what has been hinted at for months as the springboard for the event. In latter standpoint, it was a very imprudent decision assuming, of course, it is indeed what it going to happen at the end of Shadowland #1 for they just ruin what could have been a very shocking cliffhanger.

[arp2008]

Does anyone else here think it's a tad pathetic that DD would be minipulated to this extent?