View Full Version : Would You Like Marvel Team-up to come back?
Gabe De Los Muertos
05-13-2010, 12:10 PM
It was a really fun series. And Spidey can team up with pretty much any character in the Marvel universe and it would be awesome. It would also be a great way to introduce lesser-known characters to new Marvel readers. So would you like this series to come back? Or would you rather have Astonishing Spider-man/_____ be the team-up title? Or just have random characters appear in ASM from here and there?
Lintu
05-13-2010, 12:13 PM
It was a really fun series. And Spidey can team up with pretty much any character in the Marvel universe and it would be awesome. It would also be a great way to introduce lesser-known characters to new Marvel readers. So would you like this series to come back? Or would you rather have Astonishing Spider-man/_____ be the team-up title? Or just have random characters appear in ASM from here and there?
Never had a problem with team up i would probaly by it depending on the creative team perhaps FVL or stern with nice art so yes i would like to return.
I would like a spiderman/Ms Marvel book though:biggrin:
coconutphone
05-13-2010, 12:19 PM
With ASMx3, Web, Astonishing mini, Peter Parker mini etc I'd rather they just do what they did with the current ASM mini.
John Zaleski
05-13-2010, 12:21 PM
i would say yes,, but i don't need another title rapign my wallet
remoteman
05-13-2010, 02:46 PM
With the right creative team it could work (I quite liked Kirkman's effort a few years back) but the concept isn't particularly appealing to me.
PabloD
05-13-2010, 02:49 PM
Hell yeah.
It'd be cool, but probably won't happen with Deadpool Team-Up still going.
matthewaos
05-13-2010, 06:22 PM
I voted option 2, but I want a team up book that has a known character teaming up with someone not so famous. I don't want this to be a Spider-Man only book.
I wouldn't mind seeing a spidey book where spiderman and well known and lesser known Marvel characters team up. Of course it would be interesting to see what villians that spidey and co would go up against.
oldschool
05-13-2010, 07:30 PM
I really would. I have long been a fan of this idea and consider the first 100 issues of the title (1970's) to be some of the best Spidey stories ever told.
The reason Marvel often gives for not reviving it is that, these days, Spidey interacts so much more frequently with the MU (and is now an Avenger) that seeing him team up with, say, Iron Man or Hawkeye is not that big a deal. But, as others have suggested, if you can have him team up with some lesser character and even give Spidey a rest every 3 or 4 issues and feature two other characters in the title it could work.
I'm all for it.
matthewaos
05-13-2010, 07:40 PM
I would love to see team up again really. The purpose o fthe book originally was to introduce the audience to some of the lesser know characters, so this should be the case for the book to work better. Also Spidey should really not be the only star. Other characters should appear. Personally I would be kind of bored reading issue after issue about a team up that Spidey had.
Mister Mets
05-13-2010, 09:44 PM
I'd vote "No." I can understand the arguments in favor of the book. It helps introduce readers to the various corners of the Marvel Universe. It could replace one of the three issues per month of Amazing Spider-Man, providing that book with a consistent schedule (once every two weeks) and decreasing the price point a little bit for new readers.
However, it seems to me that all things being equal, an issue of Amazing Spider-Man will outsell an issue of Marvel Team-Up.
If someone working on Amazing Spider-Man wants to do a team-up story, they're free to do so. Meanwhile, the creative teams on Marvel Team-Up will be limited to one form of superhero stories.
So, it would require greater effort for less rewards. And it could even result in restrictions for the creative team(s) of Amazing Spider-Man, as there might be pressure on them not to do team-ups if there's already a title for that.
whiteshark
05-14-2010, 04:38 AM
I voted yes,bit just as a bi-monthly title as is Spider-Man/Wolverine.
Meaning that when the storyline of Spider-Man/Wolverine finished,the title kept going but with Spider-Man teaming up with other super heroes in that bi-monthly title.
oldschool
05-14-2010, 06:07 AM
I'd vote "No." I can understand the arguments in favor of the book. It helps introduce readers to the various corners of the Marvel Universe. It could replace one of the three issues per month of Amazing Spider-Man, providing that book with a consistent schedule (once every two weeks) and decreasing the price point a little bit for new readers.
However, it seems to me that all things being equal, an issue of Amazing Spider-Man will outsell an issue of Marvel Team-Up.
If someone working on Amazing Spider-Man wants to do a team-up story, they're free to do so. Meanwhile, the creative teams on Marvel Team-Up will be limited to one form of superhero stories.
So, it would require greater effort for less rewards. And it could even result in restrictions for the creative team(s) of Amazing Spider-Man, as there might be pressure on them not to do team-ups if there's already a title for that.
Your point that I bolded is certainly valid.....but why should we be concerned if ASM outsells it (it always did)? As long as it sells enough copies to turn a profit, that should not be a concern of ours and, as far as Marvel is concerned, if it sells, say, 40,000 copies each month they might consider it a success as it introduces new readers (Spidey fans, their largest base) to new and underutilized characters. I believe that the rationale in 1972 and it seems to still be a wise move today.
Any argument about over-saturation is somewhat negated by the existence of Web, Peter Parker and the dozens of one-shots and mini's out there.....dump one or more of those and put a great creative team on MTU.
Mister Mets
05-14-2010, 06:35 AM
Your point that I bolded is certainly valid.....but why should we be concerned if ASM outsells it (it always did)? As long as it sells enough copies to turn a profit, that should not be a concern of ours and, as far as Marvel is concerned, if it sells, say, 40,000 copies each month they might consider it a success as it introduces new readers (Spidey fans, their largest base) to new and underutilized characters. I believe that the rationale in 1972 and it seems to still be a wise move today.
Any argument about over-saturation is somewhat negated by the existence of Web, Peter Parker and the dozens of one-shots and mini's out there.....dump one or more of those and put a great creative team on MTU.If MTU can sell 40,000 copies, in addition to the current three issues a month we have Amazing Spider-Man, it would be successful.
I'm not sure that's the case. And I'm certainly not in favor of reducing the output of Amazing Spider-Man in favor of MTU.
To be honest, I'm already in favor of dumping Web. Peter Parker is a venue for material which has already been commissioned, so that's a different project.
Though it begs the question of whether an online-based Marvel Team-Up title could work.
oldschool
05-14-2010, 06:49 AM
If MTU can sell 40,000 copies, in addition to the current three issues a month we have Amazing Spider-Man, it would be successful.
I'm not sure that's the case. And I'm certainly not in favor of reducing the output of Amazing Spider-Man in favor of MTU.
To be honest, I'm already in favor of dumping Web. Peter Parker is a venue for material which has already been commissioned, so that's a different project.
Though it begs the question of whether an online-based Marvel Team-Up title could work.
I totally agree with dumping WEB in favor of MTU....I also think a monthly MTU could reduce the need for a lot of the mini's and one-shots we get that feature guest-stars throughout the year.
matthewaos
05-14-2010, 06:52 AM
Though it begs the question of whether an online-based Marvel Team-Up title could work.
I hate online books but hmm...
contreras9977
05-14-2010, 07:04 AM
Yes. I think Marvel made a mistake by having Kirkman write the last volume. The guy has done a lot of bad writing at Marvel.
Kolymar
06-01-2010, 12:50 AM
Definitely yes. It's fun to see Spidey team-up with other characters.
Jim Thompson
06-01-2010, 03:46 AM
Hells to the yeah, I'd like to see it come back! In a perfect world, I'd like to see a publishing schedule where ASM comes out twice a month, with Marvel Team-Up being published once a month. I always though Marvel Team-Up was a good gateway book for readers to be introduced to the MU through perhaps its most recognizable character, Spider-Man.
derekakadrock
06-01-2010, 10:18 AM
I personally wouldn't be interested in a new Marvel Team-Up, and frankly, by this point in Spidey's career we've already seen him team up with almost everyone in the Marvel universe, so it seems redundant to me.
Mister Mets
06-01-2010, 10:42 AM
If Marvel Team-Up were to come back, who would you like as the creative team?
And are there any heroes in particular you'd like to see?
Scott Taylor
06-01-2010, 11:21 AM
Yes. With the caviat that before it can be feasible, Marvel needs to do some universe-building. I feel that right now the MU is so Avengers-Centric that everything else, aside from X-verse stuff which is its own entity, sort of gets pushed to the back burner by default.
In the day when MTU was popular, FF and Avengers shared top billing (with FF a little higher). You had several long-running books and heroes in their heydeys. Offbeat team books such as Champions and Defenders. X-Men was not in the same galaxy in terms of today's popularity. Spider-Man was the "everyman" character and he had not undergone a bunch of controversial editorial moves, like he has today. It was more innocent.
Maybe it would work best in the Ultimate series of titles? Dunno. I'd love to see it, just can't see how to make it work in the current MU.
Aziz Abbasi
06-01-2010, 11:32 AM
I don't need another title raping my walletThis part of his speech I agree with
E. Wilson
06-01-2010, 11:56 AM
Eh, I've never been a fan. Individual stories have been decent, but for the most part, no Team Up books have ever grabbed me.
oldschool
06-01-2010, 12:01 PM
If Marvel Team-Up were to come back, who would you like as the creative team?
And are there any heroes in particular you'd like to see?
This may sound bizarre, but I thought Chris Claremont was the best writer MTU ever had. Wouldn't mind seeing if he still has the chops for this kind of title and he does have a history at writing many of the MU characters.
Gabe De Los Muertos
06-01-2010, 12:11 PM
If Marvel Team-Up were to come back, who would you like as the creative team?
And are there any heroes in particular you'd like to see?
Jason Aaron with JRJr.
Will.S
06-01-2010, 12:26 PM
I think Kirkman's MTU was really good and didn't always follow a formula in which Spider-Man always has to be there.
If they could reduce the amount of Amazing titles I would probably check it out.
arp2008
06-01-2010, 12:27 PM
Jason Aaron with JRJr.
Jasona Aaron with anyone else.
RDMacQ
06-01-2010, 04:51 PM
Yes. I really loved Robert Kirkman's MTU run. It was a celebration of the Marvel U., and one of the best depictions of Spider-Man characters that I have ever seen.
StoneGold
06-01-2010, 05:13 PM
Outside of nostalgia purposes, Marvel Team-Up is a terrible, terrible name for a title. Only slightly better than Two-In-One, which is even worse.
Now that said, the business is run on nostalgia. But it is a terrible, terrible title.
Patrick Hultquist
06-01-2010, 08:41 PM
Outside of nostalgia purposes, Marvel Team-Up is a terrible, terrible name for a title. Only slightly better than Two-In-One, which is even worse.
Now that said, the business is run on nostalgia. But it is a terrible, terrible title.
Two-In-One is a bad title. Even as a kid I had to stifle a giggle because of it's entendres. But Marvel Team-Up is a fairly straightforward title, in my opinion. Why do you dislike it so?
Jim Thompson
06-01-2010, 08:43 PM
Two-In-One is a bad title. Even as a kid I had to stifle a giggle because of it's entendres. Part of that title's charm, I thought -- especially as it featured a character called The Thing. :biggrin:
Patrick Hultquist
06-01-2010, 08:45 PM
Part of that title's charm, I thought -- especially as it featured a character called The Thing. :biggrin:
Ahhh! You're killing me!! :biggrin:
Mister Mets
06-02-2010, 05:19 AM
Jason Aaron with JRJr.Aaron's a solid pick.
Romita Jr would excel, as the man's done excellent work in pretty much every corner of the Marvel Universe.
But I fear a generic Spider-man title with the two (or occasional highly promoted arcs of Amazing Spider-Man) would sell better.
On the other hand, putting an A-list team on MTU could help reestablish it as a credible title.
Hypestyle
06-03-2010, 10:21 AM
it's had it's day.. Astonishing can take care of this.. at least then you can have a consistent art team from issue to issue... "Team Up" began to suffer by all the fill in artists.. if a "new" marvel team up started now, it would be marred by late art, fill-ins, somebody leaves after 3 issues, etc. I don't want to be bothered with that..
janthonyh
06-03-2010, 10:43 AM
I really think Deadpool Team-up is filling this void nicely. I mean he is essentially a really mean, insane, funny version of Spidey. Plus i tyhink he works best when interacting with other heroes and villains in the MU. While I loved Marvel Team up, I like the old school feel of the deadpool book.
Mister Mets
06-18-2010, 08:26 AM
With the Bleeding Cool rumor that Dan Slott's the writer of Amazing Spider-Man (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=326839), I'm pretty sure Marvel's still interested in making as much money as possible. So I'm sure they'll try to additional Spider-Man titles (if the rumor is even true.) (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=326867)
And Marvel Team-Up could be one way to do it. Thought the execution matters a lot.
With less focus on Peter Parker's private life, it should be easier to coordinate with the Amazing Spider-Man writer (and writers of any other Spider-Man projects.)
The best sales and attention would probably come with an A-list writer who is comfortable in many corners of the Marvel Universe and preferrably active in those corners. A Brian Michael Bendis, Ed Brubaker, Matt Fraction or Mark Millar. The book may not outsell Amazing Spider-Man (although it might be possible) but it should outsell the likes of Ultimate Enemy, while serving as an accessible introduction to the Marvel Universe (and the perfect title to set up major events elsewhere.)
If there's not enough money in the budget, any of the current Amazing Spider-Man writers could do a fine job, although Joe Kelly might get first dibs, as the the majority of his Amazing Spider-Man work might as well be Marvel Team-Up storylines (Spider-Man/ Dark Avengers, Spider-Man/ Deadpool, Spider-Man/ Arachne/ Arana.)
There are two possibilities with the writers. Marvel can an artist or a rotating team capable of handling every type of Marvel character, to give the series artistic consistency. So you might have a rotating team of John Romtia Jr and Lee Weeks. Or they could go the Ultimate Marvel Team-Up route of getting whoever's appopriate for a story, somewhat continuing the experiments in Amazing Spider-Man (where we've seen the likes of Paul Azaceta, Erik Canete and Chris Bachalo.)
Patrick Hultquist
06-18-2010, 08:39 AM
I'd like Mark Waid to write initially, although MTU was often used as a springboard to launch new talent in the past, and could be used in such a manner again. I think having the artist be whoever's appropriate for the story is a good idea. One thing I like about possibly bringing Marvel Team Up back in today's storytelling fashion is the fact that you'll likely have 60+ pages of a team up per actual story. Even in the old days, the one and done was sometimes too short.
Jim Thompson
06-18-2010, 09:09 AM
I'd like Mark Waid to write initially, although MTU was often used as a springboard to launch new talent in the past, and could be used in such a manner again. I think having the artist be whoever's appropriate for the story is a good idea. One thing I like about possibly bringing Marvel Team Up back in today's storytelling fashion is the fact that you'll likely have 60+ pages of a team up per actual story. Even in the old days, the one and done was sometimes too short.I think it'd be a shame to lose Mark Waid from the Spider-verse. I'd actually like to see him be the permanent writer on ASM, as I think his work has been consistently enjoyable since the start of the new direction. If they are not going to do that, I would love to see him on a re-launched Marvel Team-Up.
tschamp
06-18-2010, 09:10 AM
I didn't vote because I am not sure about it. I have the majority the first series. (Read the final issue classic team up there) Spider-man is on the Avengers which some have a problem with because he supposed to be a "loner". Which for some reason always makes me wonder when I see the same people asking why he doesn't team up with this hero? I just find it odd in how they are thinking. Avengers bad. Constant team ups = Loner?
Jim Thompson
06-18-2010, 09:19 AM
I didn't vote because I am not sure about it. I have the majority the first series. (Read the final issue classic team up there) Spider-man is on the Avengers which some have a problem with because he supposed to be a "loner". Which for some reason always makes me wonder when I see the same people asking why he doesn't team up with this hero? I just find it odd in how they are thinking. Avengers bad. Constant team ups = Loner?I think that's a legitimate gripe. I always saw the difference as being that, in a city with as many heroes as MU's New York has, they were going to bump into one another periodically, hence Marvel Team-Up worked for me in that sense. Also, it's not so much I don't think Peter could be on a team as I think he wouldn't feel particularly comfortable or think of himself in terms where he thought he should be on a team.
Mister Mets
06-18-2010, 09:21 AM
I'd like Mark Waid to write initially, although MTU was often used as a springboard to launch new talent in the past, and could be used in such a manner again. I think having the artist be whoever's appropriate for the story is a good idea. One thing I like about possibly bringing Marvel Team Up back in today's storytelling fashion is the fact that you'll likely have 60+ pages of a team up per actual story. Even in the old days, the one and done was sometimes too short.
I've enjoyed Waid's work on Amazing Spider-Man, but I'm not sure he's the guy I'd want on the title. He handles the protagonist's private life well and hasn't touched on the other corners of the Marvel U. Plus, one reason he's on Amazing Spider-Man is that the schedule's flexible (he is EIC of a top ten comic book publisher.)
I do agree that the team-ups shouldn't be limited to one per issue. Though I am now wondering if there's any reason this book has to have 22 pages of content per issue. Why not 30 pages for four dollars? Or 40 pages for five dollars?
Jim Thompson
06-18-2010, 09:31 AM
I've enjoyed Waid's work on Amazing Spider-Man, but I'm not sure he's the guy I'd want on the title. He handles the protagonist's private life well and hasn't touched on the other corners of the Marvel U. Plus, one reason he's on Amazing Spider-Man is that the schedule's flexible (he is EIC of a top ten comic book publisher.)Waid's done well in the past encompassing a company's universe into a story (Kingdom Come & The Brave and The Bold) and so I think it's very possible he'd do a good job with that sort of thing in a re-launched Marvel Team-Up. He gets what makes individual characters work, and I think that is a very necessary quality for a writer in regard to a book like Marvel Team-Up.
As to him having enough time to do a regular monthly book, yeah, that'd certainly be a tough hurdle for an EIC to overcome.
I do agree that the team-ups shouldn't be limited to one per issue. Though I am now wondering if there's any reason this book has to have 22 pages of content per issue. Why not 30 pages for four dollars? Or 40 pages for five dollars?I'd buy a longer book for more money. But then again, I think ASM should come out once a month, and have 80-100 pages of content.
Scott Taylor
06-18-2010, 09:59 AM
I didn't vote because I am not sure about it. I have the majority the first series. (Read the final issue classic team up there) Spider-man is on the Avengers which some have a problem with because he supposed to be a "loner". Which for some reason always makes me wonder when I see the same people asking why he doesn't team up with this hero? I just find it odd in how they are thinking. Avengers bad. Constant team ups = Loner?
MTU worked before because it was basically just a throwaway title, with no practical connection to the rest of the MU. Just a writer's playground, that.
Jim Thompson
06-18-2010, 10:01 AM
Honestly, I'd be very interested in a re-pairing of Claremont and Byrne on the title. I buy that book in a shot.
Mister Mets
06-18-2010, 10:08 AM
Honestly, I'd be very interested in a re-pairing of Claremont and Byrne on the title. I buy that book in a shot.
Byrne's been approached by Marvel on numerous occassions. He has no interest coming back.
And I think Claremont's style is just too divisive to put him on a book that's meant to be accessible and potentially important.
Jim Thompson
06-18-2010, 10:27 AM
Byrne's been approached by Marvel on numerous occassions. He has no interest coming back.
And I think Claremont's style is just too divisive to put him on a book that's meant to be accessible and potentially important.Oh, I'm under no illusions this has any real chance of happening. I'd just be interested in the re-pairing of the two on such a book.
CyberHubbs
06-18-2010, 10:30 AM
I wouldn't want to see Claremont on this book. He really has seemed to lose all of his mojo over the last few years.
Jim Thompson
06-18-2010, 10:31 AM
I wouldn't want to see Claremont on this book. He really has seemed to lose all of his mojo over the last few years.Well, I don't think there's any danger of it actually happening, so you're in luck!
CyberHubbs
06-18-2010, 10:35 AM
Just sayin'. :cool:
Mr. Noodle
06-18-2010, 02:01 PM
Byrne's been approached by Marvel on numerous occassions. He has no interest coming back.
And I think Claremont's style is just too divisive to put him on a book that's meant to be accessible and potentially important.
'Cause too many bad experiences with Marvel, or too many bad experiences with Byrne?
Jim Thompson
06-18-2010, 02:08 PM
'Cause too many bad experiences with Marvel, or too many bad experiences with Byrne?The answer to both these questions is probably "Yes." :biggrin:
SlightlyMad
06-18-2010, 03:22 PM
I said yes, but I'd rather not have it as a Spider-Man + book, but a rotating title with different pairings each month, neither of whom have to be Spidey. I'd also rotate the writers & artists too, so it's a book that people can pick up & dip into as they fancy.
David Walton
06-18-2010, 03:43 PM
The answer to both these questions is probably "Yes." :biggrin:
It's truly amazing how many brilliant collaborations fall apart over...whatever it is they fall apart over.
CMBMOOL
06-18-2010, 05:29 PM
I would love to see Marvel team-up come back in it's classic mode of Spidey teaming up with the heroes of the Marvel Universe.
I would also love a Maxi-series showing the Marvel Team-up version of Spider-girl and her teaming up with the heroes of her world. :tongue:
Jim Thompson
06-18-2010, 05:30 PM
I would love to see Marvel team-up come back in it's classic mode of Spidey teaming up with the heroes of the Marvel Universe.
I would also love a Maxi-series showing the Marvel Team-up version of Spider-girl and her teaming up with the heroes of her world. :tongue:I'd love to see the return of Marvel Two-In-One, too -- penned by Dan Slott, who did a fantastic job with Ben Grimm's character when he was working with it.
Patrick Hultquist
06-18-2010, 11:24 PM
I'd love to see the return of Marvel Two-In-One, too -- penned by Dan Slott, who did a fantastic job with Ben Grimm's character when he was working with it.
Yeah, but as stated earlier, that name's gotta change.
matthewaos
06-19-2010, 07:55 AM
As I said, I would like this NOT to be a Spider-Man title, I don't understand why it has to be. A marvel team up with a known protagonist and a lesser one could really work, considering it will not be very attched to the general MU.
Jim Thompson
06-19-2010, 08:11 AM
Yeah, but as stated earlier, that name's gotta change.Negative! Keep it old school!
Jim Thompson
06-19-2010, 08:15 AM
As I said, I would like this NOT to be a Spider-Man title, I don't understand why it has to be. A marvel team up with a known protagonist and a lesser one could really work, considering it will not be very attched to the general MU.
Well, beyond just liking Spider-Man, he's arguably Marvel's most recognizable character. Having him as a steady presence in a book like Marvel Team-Up could draw in readers and then introduce them to other aspects and characters of the MU. I know that's one of the big things the book did for me.
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