X-Speculation: The thread for speculating about what may happen (spoilers!!!)

[Brian Cronin]

Feel free to share here any speculations you may wish to make about what will happen in the future in all of the X-Books!

Go crazy! :)

Here, for instance, are Bishop Proudstar's thoughts about what would be cool in X-Men: The End.

Wouldn't it be a nice "out" if?

It's probably all a bad dream of Franklin's (who is a pre-teen with a crush on a very grown Rachel)..lol!

Franky probably is making her feel "weird" like her Franklin did in "Days of Future Present"...He's taping her powers again..

That's probably why Rachel just isn't in a good mood...

The spirit of the adult Franky that resides in her psyche probably wants Phoenix to return to help him change reality (so that Rachel is born, and that the adult Rachel goes back to the Askani future)..

He links up with the kid, and creates the downfall of the X-men inadvertently..

Jean Grey must return to help him, then give her Phoenix power to the adult Rachel, and give birth to the child.

He impersonates Lilandra's general, and guides her, but she has her own motives implanted by Cassandra X. Lil will probably figure out who he is, and then try to kill him.

Sinister is probably just playing along until he can force the adult Franklin to inpregnate the adult Rachel...What a kid!

He has to get Franklin and Rachel together whille serving Lilandra by helping to kill the X-Men..

He knows that either Rachel or this offspring can erase the new mutant virus, (and make Essex human again).

Have fun! :)

-Brian

[Karl J. Barnes]

From the story arc in Uncanny where Rachel and Emma have hooked up to take on Ross and Viper: do you think that Rachel may at some point truely become a protege` of Emma's. As much as she says she hates Emma, she surely was taken aback by Emma's abilities to handle her psychic onslaught. I can actually see Rachel warming up to Emma, if only in a student-pupil sort of way.

What do the rest of you think?

[Vector]

Shaw is forcing Tessa to work for him again in return for revealing where Bogan was keeping Psylocke and how to free her from the statue.

:p

[fishtaco]

Shaw is forcing Tessa to work for him again in return for revealing where Bogan was keeping Psylocke and how to free her from the statue.

:p


now THAT is an awesome idea!!

[Karl J. Barnes]

I think that Roberto De Costa/Sunspot will start to be more "corrupt"(little grayer in his thinking) the longer he hangs out with Shaw and The Inner Circle. Actually would be pretty cool to see Roberto go down that slippery slope and then gradually reclaim his optimism and ideals.

[Vector]

I think that Roberto De Costa/Sunspot will start to be more "corrupt"(little grayer in his thinking) the longer he hangs out with Shaw and The Inner Circle. Actually would be pretty cool to see Roberto go down that slippery slope and then gradually reclaim his optimism and ideals.

I could see that. He always was, IMO, a little edgier than the other New Mutats. Like father like son.

[The Fury]

Priest, I agree with the Emma/Rachel tutorage thing. With more of a I hate you but respect you type of thing going on.

Sunpsot becomming more corrupt would be a good development, after all he is a businessman like many of the HellFire. His corruption could also cause him to loose a large part of his wealth. Great for character development.

[Bishop_Proudstar]

Priest, I agree with the Emma/Rachel tutorage thing. With more of a I hate you but respect you type of thing going on.

Sunpsot becomming more corrupt would be a good development, after all he is a businessman like many of the HellFire. His corruption could also cause him to loose a large part of his wealth. Great for character development.

If I was writing The X-Men:

(Sunspot Speculation)

Bobby would promise Sammy and Boom that he can do more good in The Hellfire Club (after Bogan, Shaw, and Selene are eliminated)..

As The New Black or White King he could weaken the evil remaining from within.. He could reveal more to Magma that Selene has held...

Sure, The other Hellfire members have interests in X-Corp, but he can control them as a founder of a new inner circle (also Xavier owns a great amount)

Magma doesn't trust Sam because Empath is his partner. Empath promises that he feels that same way as DaCosta. They can take over THe Hellfire Club, but they'll need a "power boost" from Sage....

Cable and Domino warns the aspiring White King (Sunpspot) and White Rook (Empath)

[fishtaco]

eh. I dont look at Sebastion Shaw as the villain in this arc. Remember X-men/HFC vs Nimrod? yeah. that kind of thing.

What issue was that by the way?

[DDM]

eh. I dont look at Sebastion Shaw as the villain in this arc. Remember X-men/HFC vs Nimrod? yeah. that kind of thing.

What issue was that by the way?

Uncanny X-Men #207-209

[Bishop_Proudstar]

Emma could be talking to Mr.Sinister in Astonishing about Cyclops' well-being..

[If I was the writer]

To prevent the events happening in "Claremont's X-Men: The End" in The 616:

Adam X (who could be the secret manipulator in Lillandra's court) should be the next in line for The Sh'iar Throne (although several Sh'iar do not approve of a "half-breed" and quietly seek solutions----The one on Earth wears red).

Lilandra comes to Earth and cause problems between Chuck and Magneto in Genosha..

[Bishop_Proudstar]

Juggernaut could end up in "Exiles"..

TJ could join X-Force or Excalibur..


The New Green Goblin and his siter are mutants who could attract the interest of Purity..

[fishtaco]

Emma could be talking to Mr.Sinister in Astonishing about Cyclops' well-being..

[If I was the writer]

To prevent the events happening in "Claremont's X-Men: The End" in The 616:

Adam X (who could be the secret manipulator in Lillandra's court) should be the next in line for The Sh'iar Throne (although several Sh'iar do not approve of a "half-breed" and quietly seek solutions----The one on Earth wears red).

Lilandra comes to Earth and cause problems between Chuck and Magneto in Genosha..


See my post on the "Whats Emma up to?" thread.

[The Fury]

Juggernaut could end up in "Exiles"..

Actually I like that idea. Maybe Xorns head is an interdimensional gateway and Juggs, The Brotherhood all could travel to another world where they are confronted by the Exiles who have to stop them, with in the end, TJ and Juggs joining the group.

[Phoenix]

didn't we see Berto go down the corrupt road as Reignfire????

[fishtaco]

didn't we see Berto go down the corrupt road as Reignfire????


no. i cant explain it. See X-Force issues 78-80 :)

[Elias Bogan]

Here is what I think is going to happen in Uncanny:

Sage discovered that Psylocke is really alive somewhere and Shaw knows where she is and is working for him to learn where she is as repetence for not being able to save Phoenix from the HFC back in the day. 454 is the X-Men teaming up with the HFC to defeat Peirce as Selene continues to linger in the shadows. Bishop will plead with Sage to return to the team but she refuses saying her place is with Shaw. Emma warns Roberto not to let Shaw, etc corrupt him and Emma and Rach come to a final understanding as Rach see's Emma crying at Jeans grave.

The "On Ice" savage land story will do this: Storm, Nightcrawler, Rach and Bish journey to the savage land as Selene continues to stalk Rach. Wolverine learns someone is trying to awaken Garrok and rushes to the savage land. Meanwhile, Shaw reveals to Sage that Bogan has Psylocke and is willing to make a trade.

Basically, Selene finally attacks and drains Rach of her powers rapidly aging her back into her mother askani form, just as Sage comes upon Psylocke's comatose body but discovers its a trap as Bogan takes possession of her. Selene with her enhanced powers awakens Garrok as the savage land turns to stone(line in the tv show). IN the battle, Bish and Kurt become separated from Logan and Storm as Lo and Ro loose their memories and Rach vanishes.

It would basically be another version of the arc from Uncanny 251-268 where the X-Men were scattered across the globe and really not a team. Except this time, Psylocke would do the searching and reuniting.

[Doom Hammer]

CYCLOPALYPSE!!!

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=20923

Seen here, for those of you un-familiar with my incoherent ramblings.

[Vegetarian Goat]

I Don't know how many of you are familiar with Micro-Heroes, but in the Micro Hero Archive Site: http://www.majorbend.com/micros/archiveindex.html , There are two Deadpool Micros by two different people where he's wearing the same costume... . and it has X's all over it, and looks a LOT like Cyke's... is he joining Milligan's X-Men?

[Doom Hammer]

I Don't know how many of you are familiar with Micro-Heroes, but in the Micro Hero Archive Site: http://www.majorbend.com/micros/archiveindex.html , There are two Deadpool Micros by two different people where he's wearing the same costume... . and it has X's all over it, and looks a LOT like Cyke's... is he joining Milligan's X-Men?

In Cable and Deadpool, he has currently teamed up with the X Men and is wearing an X-costume which looks like Cyke's only with the "eyes" that Deadpool has. (Wade first wore Phoenix' old costume, but it made everyone sick. Y'know, the yellow thong and all.)

Thats where those pictures are probably from. Lemme check.

[Doom Hammer]

Im not sure if this has been established yet, but watch out for Bogan in the Savage Land.

By chance, I went back and read the "Prisoner of Fire" XXM arc, and I caught a little red flag. Upon searching Bogan's quarters, the team notices several head trophies of dinosaurs and other, big animals. After considering this, Bobby DaCosta states, "Either this guy has been around for a very long time, or he safaris in the Savage Land pretty often" (or something to that tune).

Now, in consideration of the fact that man and dinosaur never coexisted (duh, thank you Dr. DoomHammer), and I doubt that Claremont would breach that line out of respect for believability, Id say Elias Bogan has a Savage Land Hideaway.

If this was already definitely established, well, theres a little support of that.

[Vegetarian Goat]

In Cable and Deadpool, he has currently teamed up with the X Men and is wearing an X-costume which looks like Cyke's only with the "eyes" that Deadpool has. (Wade first wore Phoenix' old costume, but it made everyone sick. Y'know, the yellow thong and all.)

Thats where those pictures are probably from. Lemme check.

That 'splains everything. thanks!

[jeangreydp]

Emma and Rach come to a final understanding as Rach see's Emma crying at Jeans grave.

Okay, as for the whole emma/rachel thing- I bet they will become i hate you, but respect you type. I really WISH they would continue to both hate and disrespect, but I never get what I want.

As for Emma crying at Jean's grave, why would she do that? Does sheer happiness bring her to tears?

[PerfectBrak]

Astonishing X-Men Second Arc Villain Discussion:

Over at another messageboard, someone proposed the idea of the Danger Room being the villain in Astonishing. It makes sense, it either gained sentience or is being manipulated/possessed by something like Cassandra Nova. This would explain why Wing killed himself, he was coerced by the Danger Room. Emma would therefore not be a traitor but is also being manipulated. If you think back, many conversations between the team took place within the Danger Room. Perhaps the Danger Room is afraid of Kitty's phasing powers effect on machinery, and thats why Emma comments on her at the end of #6. Also, the title of the story arc is "Dangerous", and "Chaos" over in Avengers hinted at Wanda being the culprit...

[Fede]

Perhaps the Danger Room is afraid of Kitty's phasing powers effect on machinery

what an imagination |o|

[mushroom2703]

And that would be where i drop the title

[fishtaco]

I would actually kind of enjoy that I think. Kinda reminds me of Krakoa.

[mushroom2703]

Having been a fan of Whedon for a long while, its not necessarily the idea thats that awful ( well i hate that notion but it could be written decnetly), i just know he could write something alot bigger than that.

[fishtaco]

Is anyone under the impression that Elias Bogan is behind the mutant slave trade thing in Uncanny?

[Bishop_Proudstar]

A more mature Legion is The Timebroker?

Maybe, his mistake was trying to kill Magneto, sort of cuased a "ripple effect" of multiple realities..

Maybe, Legion creating the AoA caused Rory Campbell to become Ahab for Rachel's reality.

Now legion is taking "refugees from all of his "problem realities" to solve certain problems in the others...

[Vegetarian Goat]

A more mature Legion is The Timebroker?

Seriously? or is this just speculation.. i dropped exiles a long time ago...

[PhoenixBoyX]

Oh god Oh god. I just had the saddest notion. Wing died in the Danger Room. Possibly from a projection. The solict for Astonishing X-Men 9 says
"Danger takes on a whole new meaning as the Astonishing X-Men are forced to confront a reality they never thought possible."
And the arc is called "Dangerous."
What if the traitor is the Danger Room itself. OR an evil being in the Danger Room computer. Like Cassandra Nova is running amuck in the X-Mansion. And Emma is possibly evil because of Cerebro and the person in is there too. Xavier left because of it. And now it's programmed itself into the Danger Room. Oh good gracious. I so hope not.
-PhoenixBoyX

[xmanson]

Oh god Oh god. I just had the saddest notion. Wing died in the Danger Room. Possibly from a projection. The solict for Astonishing X-Men 9 says
"Danger takes on a whole new meaning as the Astonishing X-Men are forced to confront a reality they never thought possible."
And the arc is called "Dangerous."
What if the traitor is the Danger Room itself. OR an evil being in the Danger Room computer. Like Cassandra Nova is running amuck in the X-Mansion. And Emma is possibly evil because of Cerebro and the person in is there too. Xavier left because of it. And now it's programmed itself into the Danger Room. Oh good gracious. I so hope not.
-PhoenixBoyX

First Cerebro, now the Danger Room...what's next? Blackbird goes evil? The X-men should live in a cave and take the bus and train with sticks.

[Corey Dreher]

Again I'm taking a stab in the dark but I think (as everybody else) something big is going down. First lets start out with X-men. In the new arc Golotha, in issues 166 0r 167 you see that Emma has glowing red eyes. Could it be Bogan controling her again? Then in Uncanny X-men, they are going to the Savage Land where Bogan is suppose to be at. And also I think Psylocke is back in a different body, (the cover of issue 457). And then in Astonishing X-men the Tratior is creating all kinds of havok. I think that either Sinister or Bogan is helping Emma.(And plus I think that Emma is controling Scott) And in the New X-men Acdemy X, they are visited by a "ghost' (could it be Carter?) and I think that might have something to do with that. And last but not least In Excalubier Dark Beast is back. So this is just what I think and... um..... start posting.

[HarrisonJohn]

Probably all building up for this House of M thing which involves Magneto...

[Headhunter]

I enjoy how Marvel constantly belittles DC for their overbearing crossover events, then sets up their own...

[mattbib]

Where has Marvel belittled DC for crossovers? Really, I'd like to read that article. :)

Anyway, this will be the first real crossover (Disassembled doesn't count) Marvel's had in many years. Anyway, please refer to the dozens of existing "House of M" threads. :)

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

Oh yay!

I think it'll be great if Psylocke comes back in yet another body!

(I once was thinking about what I'd do if I could write x-men, and decided I'd slowly have psylocke lose her limbs, and instead of an arm she'd have a purple telekinetic one, until eventually she had no body at all. figured it'd look kill, and get rid of that whole confusing body swap thing all together.

[Vegetarian Goat]

I'd slowly have psylocke lose her limbs, and instead of an arm she'd have a purple telekinetic one, until eventually she had no body at all.

Like the Tin Woodsman!!

But on topic... I do think there are a lot of pieces to a giant puzzle: Bogan, Sinister, & Magneto.. but i don't think there's enough information YET to form a solid hypothesis...

[Ugoff]

Mind control...a traitor storyline....ugh

No slavery

When will it end?

[Twigglet]

I can't see their being an X-men crossover with all the books really, but if their was you can guarentee Marvel would hype it. THye wouldn't announce solits without saying it was a tie in.

[handOFfate]

A crossover is definantely possible. However, I would wait to read a few more issues of the "big three" X-books before making a hypothesis to what it's about.

[LoneWolf21]

Giving this thread a boot back up top due to conversations in the X-spoilers thread

[Beast]

Giving this thread a boot back up top due to conversations in the X-spoilers thread
Thanks for finding it LoneWolf, hopefully BP will make use of it. :p

[fishtaco]

And I thought nobody listens to me :p

[Kid Seven]

I speculate that I will be very angry if Emma turns out to be bad.

(Does that count? ;) )

But seriously, my guess is that it's Cassandra that Emma was talking to at the end of issue six. Just a hunch.

[Doom Hammer]

I think this thread is more relevent than ever, what with the massive amounts of loose ends House of M left untied.

So, let's being posting our Post-House-of-M/DeciMation speculation!

As we saw on the last page of House of M #8, something in space is absorbing all the extra mutant energies that have left the thousands of mutants. My guess? The new villain from X-Men: Deadly Genesis, who first appears in (you guessed it) space. This guy is supposed to be super-powerful, no?

I was thinking about X-Factor and all the de-mutantifications that have occured already, and I started to think about how many of these guys will keep their powers. The natural assumption is that this group bands together as some of the last mutants, but really, they could be more of an ex-mutant support group, you know? We know Wolfsbane and Jamie are keeping their powers, (and probably Guido, but he just might be a big guy), but the rest? I dunno. Just a thought. Keep 'em coming.

I know someone had an idea about Hawkeye...

[Cayman]

I think this thread is more relevent than ever, what with the massive amounts of loose ends House of M left untied.

So, let's being posting our Post-House-of-M/DeciMation speculation!

As we saw on the last page of House of M #8, something in space is absorbing all the extra mutant energies that have left the thousands of mutants. My guess? The new villain from X-Men: Deadly Genesis, who first appears in (you guessed it) space. This guy is supposed to be super-powerful, no?

I was thinking about X-Factor and all the de-mutantifications that have occured already, and I started to think about how many of these guys will keep their powers. The natural assumption is that this group bands together as some of the last mutants, but really, they could be more of an ex-mutant support group, you know? We know Wolfsbane and Jamie are keeping their powers, (and probably Guido, but he just might be a big guy), but the rest? I dunno. Just a thought. Keep 'em coming.

I know someone had an idea about Hawkeye...


I think it might be Krakoa coming back from space. He feeds on mutant energies. I guess he's shown up in Quasar a few times, but other than that, he's been dormant.

Cay