Deadpool # 21 (Spidey team-up)

[Combustible Pumpkins]

Well, what did you guys think of the final part of the story? Overall it was very enjoyable to me.

I wrote a review of it here:

http://www.spidermanreviews.com/2010/04/deadpool-21-review.html

Thanks.

[Ubu Roi]

...and I was iffy on it, from the solicits. I'm still not wholly sold on Hit Monkey, but I thought the character was underplayed, considering who/ what the character is. The emphasis was on Spidey and 'Pool, which was where it should have been, and that Spider-Man got the last word felt correct; Wade may have gone through this quest before, but he still doesn't have it together enough to realize where he's gone wrong. I'm glad Way has acknowledged one of Deadpool's character flaws (one which I find endearing), which is that he doesn't understand fully the work that goes into being a hero yet; he's akin to heroic equivalent of the famous admonition that one might know the notes, but not the music. I was afraid this would be an arc where Deadpool upstages Spider-Man and gains some kind of snarky victory, but I was taken aback a bit by how little Wade had actually learned- it ended up being rather poignant by the end. I think that some good storytelling avenues have been opened up by "Whatever a Spider Can" for Wade, and I hope Dan Way and co. take advantage of them.

[Karl Cook]

Well, what did you guys think of the final part of the story? Overall it was very enjoyable to me.

I wrote a review of it here:

http://www.spidermanreviews.com/2010/04/deadpool-21-review.html

Thanks.

It turned out better than I expected but I'm still not a Hit-Monkey fan.
I know it's a comicbook storyline but I can't fathom how a monkey gave both Deadpool and Spider-Man so much trouble.

[Karl Cook]

...and I was iffy on it, from the solicits. I'm still not wholly sold on Hit Monkey, but I thought the character was underplayed, considering who/ what the character is. The emphasis was on Spidey and 'Pool, which was where it should have been, and that Spider-Man got the last word felt correct; Wade may have gone through this quest before, but he still doesn't have it together enough to realize where he's gone wrong. I'm glad Way has acknowledged one of Deadpool's character flaws (one which I find endearing), which is that he doesn't understand fully the work that goes into being a hero yet; he's akin to heroic equivalent of the famous admonition that one might know the notes, but not the music. I was afraid this would be an arc where Deadpool upstages Spider-Man and gains some kind of snarky victory, but I was taken aback a bit by how little Wade had actually learned- it ended up being rather poignant by the end. I think that some good storytelling avenues have been opened up by "Whatever a Spider Can" for Wade, and I hope Dan Way and co. take advantage of them.
Well, Cable & Deadpool #50 had Wade saving the day whilst Spider-Man - and several Avengers - were present.
Also, Deadpool never really learns anything. It was established a few years ago that his healing factor is constantly regenerating his brain.
All in all though, not a bad story arc.

[Combustible Pumpkins]

...and I was iffy on it, from the solicits. I'm still not wholly sold on Hit Monkey, but I thought the character was underplayed, considering who/ what the character is. The emphasis was on Spidey and 'Pool, which was where it should have been, and that Spider-Man got the last word felt correct;

Excellent point. Hit-Monkey was underplayed, perhaps giving him a small amount of mystique. This was probably Way's intent, compelling the reader to pick up Hit-Monkey #1.


Wade may have gone through this quest before, but he still doesn't have it together enough to realize where he's gone wrong. I'm glad Way has acknowledged one of Deadpool's character flaws (one which I find endearing), which is that he doesn't understand fully the work that goes into being a hero yet; he's akin to heroic equivalent of the famous admonition that one might know the notes, but not the music. I was afraid this would be an arc where Deadpool upstages Spider-Man and gains some kind of snarky victory, but I was taken aback a bit by how little Wade had actually learned- it ended up being rather poignant by the end.

Interesting choice of words, it was a good ending revealing Deadpool hasn't learned much from his latest foray into heroism. I wouldn't say the ending was poignant, however, it was definitely satisfying though. Were the earlier Deadpool stories more serious? Because they're more zany now.


I think that some good storytelling avenues have been opened up by "Whatever a Spider Can" for Wade, and I hope Dan Way and co. take advantage of them.

Yeah, I'm convinced now that the Deadpool / Spidey dynamic is a prize-winning formula for years to come. Thanks for the reply Ubu, it was definitely thoughtful.

[Combustible Pumpkins]

It turned out better than I expected but I'm still not a Hit-Monkey fan.
I know it's a comicbook storyline but I can't fathom how a monkey gave both Deadpool and Spider-Man so much trouble.

Hit-Monkey seems like a funny enough concept. I haven't read Hit-Monkey # 1 yet though. Have you? As I stated in the review, this comic is meant to be more humorous than realistic.

[shadow panther]

they need to cancel deadpool team-up in favor of a spidey deadpool team up monthly

[bulletproofsponge]

they need to cancel deadpool team-up in favor of a spidey deadpool team up monthly

Sounds good to me. I really enjoyed this. :)

[coconutphone]

...and I was iffy on it, from the solicits. I'm still not wholly sold on Hit Monkey, but I thought the character was underplayed, considering who/ what the character is. The emphasis was on Spidey and 'Pool, which was where it should have been, and that Spider-Man got the last word felt correct; Wade may have gone through this quest before, but he still doesn't have it together enough to realize where he's gone wrong. I'm glad Way has acknowledged one of Deadpool's character flaws (one which I find endearing), which is that he doesn't understand fully the work that goes into being a hero yet; he's akin to heroic equivalent of the famous admonition that one might know the notes, but not the music. I was afraid this would be an arc where Deadpool upstages Spider-Man and gains some kind of snarky victory, but I was taken aback a bit by how little Wade had actually learned- it ended up being rather poignant by the end. I think that some good storytelling avenues have been opened up by "Whatever a Spider Can" for Wade, and I hope Dan Way and co. take advantage of them.


I agree. I like that wade doesn't get why he's not considered a 'hero' by most. He thinks he's earned it but he hasn't and doesn't get why or even see it. Nice 3 issue arc.

[Karl Cook]

Hit-Monkey seems like a funny enough concept. I haven't read Hit-Monkey # 1 yet though. Have you? As I stated in the review, this comic is meant to be more humorous than realistic.

I can understand Hit-Monkey giving Deadpool a lot of problems but Spider-Man? Not really.
In response to your question: No, I haven't read Hit-Monkey #1 yet either. I may pick it up eventually but at this moment in time I'm in no hurry to.

[Andrew T]

I can understand Hit-Monkey giving Deadpool a lot of problems but Spider-Man? Not really.
In response to your question: No, I haven't read Hit-Monkey #1 yet either. I may pick it up eventually but at this moment in time I'm in no hurry to.

On a good day I could give Spider-Man problems. Just the way it is, unfortunately.

Pretty decent arc, I thought. Spidey's funeral was pretty great. Wish we'd gotten another page or two of Pete fielding calls from various people explaining to them that he's alive.

[Karl Cook]

On a good day I could give Spider-Man problems. Just the way it is, unfortunately.

Pretty decent arc, I thought. Spidey's funeral was pretty great. Wish we'd gotten another page or two of Pete fielding calls from various people explaining to them that he's alive.

I agree the arc was decent enough, I just wasn't really sold on Hit-Monkey.
I understand that a new character's introduction usually involves "jobbing out" established heroes to showcase the new guy's abilities (See any book by Loeb) but I think the story was over-the-top.
Or maybe that was the point to begin with?

[coconutphone]

I agree the arc was decent enough, I just wasn't really sold on Hit-Monkey.
I understand that a new character's introduction usually involves "jobbing out" established heroes to showcase the new guy's abilities (See any book by Loeb) but I think the story was over-the-top.
Or maybe that was the point to begin with?

Dude, it's Deadpool. Over the top is what he does best. lol You should know that better than anybody. :smile:

[Karl Cook]

Dude, it's Deadpool. Over the top is what he does best. lol You should know that better than anybody. :smile:

I know Wade's usually involved in wacky, OTT adventures. I just felt that Spider-Man's inclusion was a bit "off".
Wade getting pwned by Hit-Monkey, I can live with. Spider-Man however would have dealt with him instantly.
That's the only criticism I have with the arc itself though.:biggrin:

[coconutphone]

I know Wade's usually involved in wacky, OTT adventures. I just felt that Spider-Man's inclusion was a bit "off".
Wade getting pwned by Hit-Monkey, I can live with. Spider-Man however would have dealt with him instantly.
That's the only criticism I have with the arc itself though.:biggrin:

I blame Phisty.

[Karl Cook]

I blame Phisty.

LOL! You blame him for everything...:biggrin:

[Combustible Pumpkins]

I've read some complains that Deadpool was only a guest star in his own book. Do you feel that way, Don't P?

[Karl Cook]

I've read some complains that Deadpool was only a guest star in his own book. Do you feel that way, Don't P?

Not really. There were a lot of humourous moments and Wade was centre-stage for all of them.
As I've previously mentioned, I thought Spidey's characterisation was off. Then again, that could just be me, as I thought his recent appearance in Vengeance Of The Moon Knight was off and I haven't read ASM in over a year for the same reason.

[coconutphone]

LOL! You blame him for everything...:biggrin:

It's true. It doesn't go over well at work when I'm late or call in sick though.

[Karl Cook]

It's true. It doesn't go over well at work when I'm late or call in sick though.

You should have upgraded to the bonus mindwipe package...

[coconutphone]

You should have upgraded to the bonus mindwipe package...

Too expensive. I already lost my soul in a bet a few years back and it took a lot to win it back.