Damn: It's Official: The End of the Shield and the Web

[Free-Man]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25352

Major bummer. I wonder what's next for these two.

[Karl O'Neill]

That sucks hard.

Not even 2 trades worth of stuff before they cancel it.

The first trade could have sold lots.

I was even interested in buying it.

[Joe Acro]

My main issue with these projects, and First Wave as well, is that they advertised it as "this writer is re-envisioning a bunch of characters" and then having that writer not be involved in the ongoings.

[Artificial idiot]

A shame about Shield, really enjoying that book and starting to love the character. Hopefully that's not the end of him and hopefully Trauntmann is put on something else soon.

[Desaad]

Dammit.

Oh well. I hope Trautmann and Rudy get on something more high profile. I always said that it wasn't the concept that really interested me, just the execution.

Get this creative team on A Seven Soldiers ongoing!

[mperiolat]

The funny thing is just as they are ending the series, in the same solicitation, they're putting the trade out for The Shield. Go figure.

[Munkiman]

Aw, man. That's annoying. And I was just about to start picking up the Web in addition to the Shield, too.

[EMeadow]

I get the feeling we're getting a Mighty Crusaders project out of this and they're just consolidating everything.

[Karl O'Neill]

Yeah aren't they going to be stars in the mighty crusaders event? Tell me more.

[K-DoG7p7]

My god.. its the first time in ages DC cans a series before the 12th issue .. TWO even!

[Free-Man]

Yeah aren't they going to be stars in the mighty crusaders event? Tell me more.

As far as I can tell, Mighty Crusaders is merely a one-shot at this point.

[DubipR]

My main issue with these projects, and First Wave as well, is that they advertised it as "this writer is re-envisioning a bunch of characters" and then having that writer not be involved in the ongoings.

First Wave at least got a mini out of it rather than just injecting the monthlies into the readers. If DC planned out the Archie characters out a bit better and introduced these characters to a newer audience and given us a mini or something, it might have at least had 12 issues instead of ending at 10. Maybe a trade of older books by these characters would've sufficed as well.

Ball dropped by DC on this one.

[Ilash]

No offence to all of you who liked this but who didn't see this coming? What chance in hell did these characters ever have of carying their own ongoing?

[Apathetic-piggy]

My god.. its the first time in ages DC cans a series before the 12th issue .. TWO even!

This surprised me a bit, considering they usually stand by their lower-selling titles for a year or two's time, examples being Blue Beetle, Manhunter, and Blue Beetle. Then I realized all those books feature minorities in their leads (females and a Hispanic male, respectively), so that's probably a part of it.

Were the sales really that bad on the Red Circle books, or could this be a creative cancellation, such as some of the Bat books before the Batman RIP/Reborn event?


No offence to all of you who liked this but who didn't see this coming? What chance in hell did these characters ever have of carying their own ongoing?

I didn't think any of the other three titles were going to last more than 40 issues either. It's more about getting a decent run of stories out of a character for the time being than trying to keep running for 10 years. It's near impossible to do that without established and marketed characters. JSA almost made it, but it got relaunched. There probably is an example I'm not aware of that breaks this logic, but for the most part it seems sound.

[Free-Man]

This surprised me a bit, considering they usually stand by their lower-selling titles for a year or two's time, examples being Blue Beetle, Manhunter, and Blue Beetle. Then I realized all those books feature minorities in their leads (females and a Hispanic male, respectively), so that's probably a part of it.

Were the sales really that bad on the Red Circle books, or could this be a creative cancellation, such as some of the Bat books before the Batman RIP/Reborn event?



I didn't think any of the other three titles were going to last more than 40 issues either. It's more about getting a decent run of stories out of a character for the time being than trying to keep running for 10 years. It's near impossible to do that without established and marketed characters. JSA almost made it, but it got relaunched. There probably is an example I'm not aware of that breaks this logic, but for the most part it seems sound.

Well, JSA made it well past 40 issues and was only relaunched after Infinite Crisis.

It's definately not a creative cancelleation. Both titles were selling around 80000 issues.

[Apathetic-piggy]

Well, JSA made it well past 40 issues and was only relaunched after Infinite Crisis.

It's definately not a creative cancelleation. Both titles were selling around 80000 issues.

I mentioned JSA (almost being that it got to 87, a significantly longer run than most series, but still didn't breach 100 such as Birds of Prey), and you may have thrown an extra 0 in your figure, because if they both sold 80000, or even collectively, they certainly wouldn't be canceled. lol

I'll give you JSA, I could have worded that better.

[ryerye17]

No offence to all of you who liked this but who didn't see this coming? What chance in hell did these characters ever have of carying their own ongoing?

Agree.

This news made me just go..."meh."

[Free-Man]

I mentioned JSA (almost being that it got to 87, a significantly longer run than most series, but still didn't breach 100 such as Birds of Prey), and you may have thrown an extra 0 in your figure, because if they both sold 80000, or even collectively, they certainly wouldn't be canceled. lol

I'll give you JSA, I could have worded that better.

Yes, thanks for the correction.

[zurenarrh]

Dang, i just started getting into The Shield too...what a shame.

[Frisky Dingo]

No offence to all of you who liked this but who didn't see this coming? What chance in hell did these characters ever have of carying their own ongoing?

Have to respectfully agree with that. They should have introduced the characters into some other books as supporting characters to allow the growth of a fan base. Then spin them off into some mini's to see if the interest is even there.

[DonEMC]

The stories, nor the art, were very good in either of these books. Until DC decides to put its top talent on these characters, they will continue to suck and sales will suck even worse.
i had high hopes for these books when they announced that JMS would be the writer, but then he left after the one shots and those weren't even that good.
Then, DC sticks no-name writers and artists on the books and they expect them to sell? C'mon, their marketing guys know better than that and you'd think Archie Comics would have known better, too. Impact! anyone?

[Free-Man]

Have to respectfully agree with that. They should have introduced the characters into some other books as supporting characters to allow the growth of a fan base. Then spin them off into some mini's to see if the interest is even there.

Adding in a co-feature also didn't do them any favors. It's a shame, because the writing on the Shield was excellent. I hope Eric gets more work after this.

[Retro315]

Ball dropped by DC on this one.

I'd say "ball dropped by comic readers".

I'll say about The Shield primarily (It's actually the only Red Circle title I've been reading ...) but it's a tremendously good comic. Tons of people in tons of forums try to spread a little word-of-mouth about how good Eric Trautmann is doing, how top notch Marco Rudy's art is.

But it's true what they say - a great storyteller and a great artist can't just magically make a Z-List character popular. It's credit enough to them that they even made Joe "The Shield" Higgins credible and awesome so when he shows up in further DC appearances, at least people will be like: "Who is this guy, and what's his story?" and they'll have Trautmann's TPBs to go back and read and be impressed.

Sometimes it takes a bit of time for the demand to actually catch up to the quality, sometimes it's vice-versa.

There was word that The Shield may, at some point, start to interact with General Lane's crew in the Superman books. I think it's fairly reasonable to assume that once Mighty Crusaders Special hits and their storyline settles, we'll see the Red Circle guys turn up - probably in a Superman or JSA title.

I do hope Trautmann totally calls dibs on Marco Rudy from now on (And Don Kramer while he's at it ...)

[jAWSH!]

Well shoot... :frown:

Gotta agree with Ilash though. This was inevitable.

Poorly planned by DC management IMO. I see the same thing happen over and over again. New character stars in an ongoing or mini without giving the character a chance to be seen in other books first.

Haven't read The Web, but the Shield was incredible! Gonna miss that book a lot.

[Mundungus]

And there was just a DC Nation page showing off a page of The Web art.

I'll admit, I only picked up the first issue of The Shield. I liked it, but I stopped picking it up because of, I dunno, budget and other interests that came first. And I'm piss poor, so when I buy one comic book I'm already spending beyond my means.

And I agree, this was inevitable. But, DC owns the characters now and I feel like even though the ongoings were shafted, the characters (at least The Shield and The Web) will pop up across the DC Universe.

[Ilash]

And there was just a DC Nation page showing off a page of The Web art.

I'll admit, I only picked up the first issue of The Shield. I liked it, but I stopped picking it up because of, I dunno, budget and other interests that came first. And I'm piss poor, so when I buy one comic book I'm already spending beyond my means.

And I agree, this was inevitable. But, DC owns the characters now and I feel like even though the ongoings were shafted, the characters (at least The Shield and The Web) will pop up across the DC Universe.

Probably. They should have done it the other way around though. Introduce them in the DCU first and then try out an ongoing or, more logically, a mini and go from there.

[FanboyStranger]

I guess I'm part of the problem. I've been meaning to pick up The Shield after hearing all the praise that Trautmann and Rudy were getting on the title, but for some reason, kept forgetting about it when I was shopping for comics. I'll definitely pick up the trade, though.

[Bo-Man]

As much I liked these characters especially The Shield, they should put them in The Justice League. These other characters should be featured in a The Brave and Bold or a DC Showcase or co feature is some book. I hope they don't make the same mistake with the other Red Circle and the Milestone Characters. to be honest how DC and Marvel expect fans to buy all these comics. Introducing new characters plus crossovers like Blackest Night, etc.We are living in bad economic times. I don't mind new or re-invited characters, but I can't afford to get all these titles.I collect afew and then may wait for tpb.

[Constantine Drakon]

Major bummer.

No offense to Shield/Web, but there was a series that really really shouldn't have gotten the axe. But did. But comic fans didn't try new things back then, and still won't now.

[paulski]

No surprise whatsoever to me. No slight on the creators or anything like that - it's just a case of characters that simply could not sustain monthly series, especially on $4 books.

And I'm sure that DC kept the books alive as long as possible. I think we can see from other recent examples how quickly these titles would have been axed if they were published by another (particular) company.

[BrianT]

But, DC owns the characters now and I feel like even though the ongoings were shafted, the characters (at least The Shield and The Web) will pop up across the DC Universe.

They don't own the characters. They are licensed from Archie Comics. Personally, I hope the rights revert back to them and they give the characters a shot. I'm not interested in them as a part of the DCU, it's already crowded enough, but I would check out a new universe with them in it.

[md62]

No surprise whatsoever to me. No slight on the creators or anything like that - it's just a case of characters that simply could not sustain monthly series, especially on $4 books.

And I'm sure that DC kept the books alive as long as possible. I think we can see from other recent examples how quickly these titles would have been axed if they were published by another (particular) company.

I agree. These books would have been gone within 5 issues at Marvel. I LOVE The Shield & have read & supported it but the price to have a backup killed it. It also would have been a good idea to have had JMS write the first arc on the books to generate some interest.

[lautreamax]

I don't get it. This is from DC's own description of the Mighty Crusaders Special on their website:


(...) this extrasized dose of high-stakes metahuman action is a perfect jumping-on point for new readers and faithful followers alike, setting the stage for the future of the Red Circle — and the coming of the MIGHTY CRUSADERS!

Doesn't that suggest there will be an ongoing series after it? Why would they need a "jumping-on point for new readers" if there was nothing to jump on?

[BrianT]

I don't get it. This is from DC's own description of the Mighty Crusaders Special on their website:



Doesn't that suggest there will be an ongoing series after it? Why would they need a "jumping-on point for new readers" if there was nothing to jump on?

Perhaps you're right and they'll relaunch as a team book. Probably a good reason for the Red Circle supporters not to give up yet. This is a question best posed for Dan Didio if he still does that Q&A.

[Doc Goblin]

No surprise. I think all of us saw this coming sooner than later.

The Web never captured my interest, but the Shield is an excellent book. I'll gladly keep reading until its final issue. I don't know if I'll follow a team book or whatever DC plans to continue the Red Circle heroes with though. If it's the same creative team as the Shield, I'm obviously sold. Otherwise, I'm not sure.

[zurenarrh]

If they were able to get a good artist and get Trautmann to write an ongoing Mighty Crusaders, l would definitely get on that.

[Desaad]

As I said before, I'm not really that interested in these characters, even after having really really enjoyed the Shield and enjoyed most of the Web. I just don't think there is much that is particularly interesting about the Shield, especially, conceptually. It was always the excellent craft that was put into the book that did it for me. In other words, 50% of the reason I was buying this book was Trautmann and 50% was for Rudy.

On the one hand, it makes me sad, but on the other hand it makes me hopeful that this team MIGHT move onto a concept or character that I can really dig into. Trautmann's combination of Ellis and Rucka is really engaging to me, and his diversity is really exceptional -- reading this book is NOTHING like reading JSA vs Kobra, or the one-off issue of Checkmate that he did solo. I'm very confident that he could do a whole slew of different books and do them well. I'd especially love to see him do Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) in some capacity. He's obviously got the 'big scale chops' for it, but also familiarity with military that would be perfect for an Airforce pilot.

And Marco Rudy is some weird combination of Steranko, Williams III and Coipel. I mark him out as the best, most unique new artist to come out of either Marvel or DC in the last 5 years. The guy is amazing, seriously.

So lets go guys. Start the pitching. A Green Lantern mini. Seven Soldiers mini or ongoing, picking up some of the threads Grant Morrison left lying. JLA mini. Lets doooooo it. :)

[Den]

Well, damn.

The Shield was probably running neck and neck with Green Lantern for my favorite comic book. I also enjoyed the Web.

And now both seem to be ending :(

Well, IF they (Please) try a "Mighty Crusaders" Series, I hope they give it to Trautmann and Rudy. They've been amazingly good together.

And if the Mighty Crusaders is just a one shot... well, I hope Trautmann and Rudy get another assignment from D.C. Pronto. Seriously, it would be a waste not to use them both.

Here's hoping the Shield gets a few more guest appearances in the DC universe even when the series is done. Heck, the Web too. I've grown fond of these incarnations of them.

[infinitesnowboy]

I really like The Shield but I always feel hesitant to buy it because of the $4 price tag. I'm not that interested in the stories they tag onto it...

[burr787]

Well, damn.

The Shield was probably running neck and neck with Green Lantern for my favorite comic book. I also enjoyed the Web.

And now both seem to be ending :(

Well, IF they (Please) try a "Mighty Crusaders" Series, I hope they give it to Trautmann and Rudy. They've been amazingly good together.

And if the Mighty Crusaders is just a one shot... well, I hope Trautmann and Rudy get another assignment from D.C. Pronto. Seriously, it would be a waste not to use them both.

Here's hoping the Shield gets a few more guest appearances in the DC universe even when the series is done. Heck, the Web too. I've grown fond of these incarnations of them.

Rudy is being put on Powergirl. As for Trautmann, I'm not sure, he's been co-writing Action Comics so maybe he's going to eventually take over that.

[Ryaztek]

Both of these books were better than the crap that is MAGOG and yet DC continues to waste paper and print on a Kingdom Come reject...Go figure! I guess maybe because Keith Giffen is writing it they are giving it a longer hospice stay ?

[Dave Hackett]

I got the first arc of "The Shield" and it was good. I like Trautman's writing, but push came to shove and I had to make room on my list and it was an early casualty. The $4 price tag definitely hurt, especially when the back-up ("Inferno" at the time) was really lacking.

Hopefully Trautman lands somewhere else and DC gets a better plan to integrate the Crusaders into the DCU.

Sales Estimates (Stolen from M.O Frisch Here (http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#more-10000) and ICV2 Here (http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/17020.html))

THE SHIELD
08/2009: RC: Shield #1 -- 19,088
09/2009: The Shield #1 -- 16,997 (-11.0%)
10/2009: The Shield #2 -- 10,401 (-38.8%)
11/2009: The Shield #3 -- 8,546 (-17.8%)
12/2009: The Shield #4 -- 7,316 (-14.4%)
01/2010: The Shield #5 -- 6,444 (-11.9%)
February - 6,010

THE WEB
08/2009: RC: Web #1 -- 19,535
09/2009: The Web #1 -- 15,507 (-20.6%)
10/2009: The Web #2 -- 9,421 (-39.3%)
11/2009: The Web #3 -- 7,631 (-19.0%)
12/2009: The Web #4 -- 6,653 (-12.8%)
01/2010: The Web #5 -- 5,809 (-12.7%)
February - 5,276

Those are some pretty disastrous numbers.

[AdamYJ]

It's not unexpected, but it is still disappointing.

I read both The Shield and The Web and I hope they reappear somewhere shortly after their titles end.

[burr787]

Both of these books were better than the crap that is MAGOG and yet DC continues to waste paper and print on a Kingdom Come reject...Go figure! I guess maybe because Keith Giffen is writing it they are giving it a longer hospice stay ?

Have you read Magog?

[DubipR]

Rudy is being put on Powergirl.

Uh....no he's not.
Take a look at your solicits, bro. Sam Basri is taking over Power Girl's art chores.

[galactica]

I just hope DC is smart enough to put Eric Trautmann and Marco Rudy on something good.

[Justin D.]

The funny thing is just as they are ending the series, in the same solicitation, they're putting the trade out for The Shield. Go figure.

Until you see the sales numbers, that is bizarre. My last trip to the comic book store, I was about to buy the first few issues when I realized a trade was likely coming out soon and held off. I may still buy the trade, but I doubt the last four issues of the book will ever be collected.


I got the first arc of "The Shield" and it was good. I like Trautman's writing, but push came to shove and I had to make room on my list and it was an early casualty. The $4 price tag definitely hurt, especially when the back-up ("Inferno" at the time) was really lacking.

Hopefully Trautman lands somewhere else and DC gets a better plan to integrate the Crusaders into the DCU.

Sales Estimates (Stolen from M.O Frisch Here (http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#more-10000) and ICV2 Here (http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/17020.html))

THE SHIELD
08/2009: RC: Shield #1 -- 19,088
09/2009: The Shield #1 -- 16,997 (-11.0%)
10/2009: The Shield #2 -- 10,401 (-38.8%)
11/2009: The Shield #3 -- 8,546 (-17.8%)
12/2009: The Shield #4 -- 7,316 (-14.4%)
01/2010: The Shield #5 -- 6,444 (-11.9%)
February - 6,010

THE WEB
08/2009: RC: Web #1 -- 19,535
09/2009: The Web #1 -- 15,507 (-20.6%)
10/2009: The Web #2 -- 9,421 (-39.3%)
11/2009: The Web #3 -- 7,631 (-19.0%)
12/2009: The Web #4 -- 6,653 (-12.8%)
01/2010: The Web #5 -- 5,809 (-12.7%)
February - 5,276

Those are some pretty disastrous numbers.

They really are. I think it was a major disaster including back-ups of virtually unknown characters in a brand new book with a virtually unknown character. Neither of them pushed sales, but the combo of the two raised the price of the book, which likely ended up driving sales down. I understand they were trying to build a new brand with the characters, but to keep them in the DCU and help push sales, I would've put on a fan-favorite character or set of characters in the back-up. The Metal Men back-up that was Doom Patrol probably would've worked better in The Shield.

[Den]

Rudy is being put on Powergirl. As for Trautmann, I'm not sure, he's been co-writing Action Comics so maybe he's going to eventually take over that.

Thanks for informing me. I may have to look into those

EDIT: Actually, looks like as of June, Marc Guggenheim and Pete Woods will be taking over Action

[marvelprince]

Hmm, considering all the praise the Shield's getting in this thread I'm sorry I didn't pick it up. I was underwhelmed with his one shot so the Web was the only one I was getting, and it was good. Might have to check out the Shield trade.

[dumbstruck]

This comes as no surprise. These characters bombed the first time around. I saw nothing to convince me they wouldn't bomb again. The same can be said for the Milestone characters.

[zurenarrh]

Does the cancellation factor into everyone's decision to pick up the last 3 issues of each series or will you be dropping it all together?

[jsf]

I'm buying them for the complete run.

Yeah, the opening mini was slow. But the series themselves -- especially the Shield -- were good. I'm really bummed to see they're cancelling them.

[Drcharles]

Hahahahahahah..................

Great ..........:biggrin:

The Shield, such a great concept and design, but DC got their lad involved in a BS war, and look whats happened to sales !
says a lot to me...........

as for the Web,
boring and no excitemnet will kill any title,
suffered from a lack of passion.................

They're the weakest link..........GoodBye !

[Den]

Does the cancellation factor into everyone's decision to pick up the last 3 issues of each series or will you be dropping it all together?

I'm in it until the last. Both the Shield and the Web have been very entertaining, and I don't think that's suddenly going to change just because it won't last as long as I hoped.

[hondobrode]

Have really enjoyed The Shield. Bought the Web but waiting for an issue I was missing before I read it. Liked the concept and was looking for more Red Circle Crusaders as well as The Hangman, and The Fox by Michael Avon Oeming.

Hopefully the characters will continue somehow somewhere.

[BrianT]

Eric Trautmann's Twitter seems to imply life after the end of THE SHIELD for the character. Whether that's a relaunch or a team book or what has not been revealed yet.

[protege]

Have really enjoyed The Shield. Bought the Web but waiting for an issue I was missing before I read it. Liked the concept and was looking for more Red Circle Crusaders as well as The Hangman, and The Fox by Michael Avon Oeming.

Hopefully the characters will continue somehow somewhere.

What about the Crusaders? is that still going ahead?

[BrianT]

What about the Crusaders? is that still going ahead?

I think the only thing that has been announced so far is the MIGHTY CRUSADERS one-shot out in May. There have been hints that there is more with the Red Circle characters coming though. What exactly is unknown at this time.

[TonyStark1012]

Man I'm really sorry to here this. I've never read sheild, but I really liked the web. I pretty much new from the start that the series was'nt going to last long. Hell it's hard for some established characters to sustain a book nowadays much less newer ones.

[mperiolat]

Well, speaking for myself, I'd enjoyed both books very much, both with the Red Circle launch and then the individual issues.

HOWEVER...

I really think the biggest thing going against both books as they were not very interface friendly. You couldn't jump in in the middle of an arc and expect to get everything. Books structured like that make it very hard to gain readers who are not in on the ground floor.

I do hope something new is coming for the characters, since I know the Web is going to be showing up in a few other DC books in the next few months. I don't recall on the Shield, besides him showing up in Magog recently.

I will say, if Shield and Web are gone, I'd be getting mighty nervous were I Magog and Power Girl, because their necks are probably next.

[Melfice]

Well Power Girl is selling better than Supergirl if I remember right. Or near it, but I do hope the book lasts a good amount of time. It's a very fun and cool read each month.

As for The Shield and The Web, they will be missed big time :frown: I really do enjoy these series, and I guess I'll pick up The Spirit and Doc Savage ongoings in their place.

[dupersuper]

Bad news for me, good news for my wallet.

[Artificial idiot]

Bad news for me, good news for my wallet.

Pretty much how I feel. But I'll be with Shield to the very last issue, that's been a quality comic and I don't see that changing in the last few issues.

[jsf]

Hahahahahahah..................

Great ..........:biggrin:

The Shield, such a great concept and design, but DC got their lad involved in a BS war, and look whats happened to sales !
says a lot to me...........

as for the Web,
boring and no excitemnet will kill any title,
suffered from a lack of passion.................

They're the weakest link..........GoodBye !

Um ... yeah ... that story set in Bialya and those flying-saucer Nazis in Brazil were completely BS.

Clearly you didn't actually read the books -- so why don't you go p!ss on someone else's parade.

[Free-Man]

Um ... yeah ... that story set in Bialya and those flying-saucer Nazis in Brazil were completely BS.

Clearly you didn't actually read the books -- so why don't you go p!ss on someone else's parade.

Yeah, everytime the Shield gets mentioned, he gets his panties in a bunch about how they "disgraced" Archie by putting the character in Afghanistan.

Clearly, since he has no idea what he's talking about, he should just be ignored and go back to reading Ultimates 3 or something.

[Judge-Dredd]

Damn, it's a pity Shield sold so little for such a good comic.

[jAWSH!]

Does the cancellation factor into everyone's decision to pick up the last 3 issues of each series or will you be dropping it all together?

I'm definately picking up the rest of The Shield. Great writing and absolutely gorgeous art!

[Sean Walsh]

I get the feeling we're getting a Mighty Crusaders project out of this and they're just consolidating everything.

The books are now well below the 10K mark.

If there's any further expansion of the Red Circle line, it's proof that DC just has buildings full of cash and gold bullion at their disposal and can afford to print it when the numbers just simply aren't there.

I'm sad to see THE WEB go, but it's a mercy killing at this point. DC just couldn't get people interested unfortunately.

[Drcharles]

Um ... yeah ... that story set in Bialya and those flying-saucer Nazis in Brazil were completely BS.

Clearly you didn't actually read the books -- so why don't you go p!ss on someone else's parade.


I fancy its your parade thats got pissed over..................


..........................now that the books got fcuked off..............:smile:

[celticguy]

I liked the Shield and the Hangman but not others.

[Dave Hackett]

Well Power Girl is selling better than Supergirl if I remember right. Or near it, but I do hope the book lasts a good amount of time. It's a very fun and cool read each month.

ICV2 Numbers for February:

POWER GIRL #9 - 20,900
SUPERGIRL #50 - 33,338

Granted Supergirl gets a bump for being an anniversary issue, but even in January, SG was about 6K above PG.

[Tekamthi]

I thoroughly enjoyed The Web under the Robinsons, a true follow-up to what Straczynski set up originally, then DC pulled the writer, actually allowed Marc Guggenheim a rare missfire, and then seemed to get right back on-track with Matt Sturges. I hope the story at least gets completed in that one.

As for Magog (OT somewhat), although it's been something of a slow starter, it's only gotten better with recent issues, breaking him off from the Justice Society (finally) and introducing more of his mythology. It's been like the reverse Aztek, really...

[jAWSH!]

As for Magog (OT somewhat), although it's been something of a slow starter, it's only gotten better with recent issues, breaking him off from the Justice Society (finally) and introducing more of his mythology. It's been like the reverse Aztek, really...

Aside from the Mighty Crusaders one-shot, I think that's the only other title that the Shield will be appearing for the moment.

I loved the Army/Marine alpha dog banter between Magog and The Shield the first time they met up. I might just try Magog out. Keith Giffen's Doom Patrol has been good...

[Melfice]

ICV2 Numbers for February:

POWER GIRL #9 - 20,900
SUPERGIRL #50 - 33,338

Granted Supergirl gets a bump for being an anniversary issue, but even in January, SG was about 6K above PG.

Thanks for the info Dave. I think anything over 10K is good for the most part. I'm hoping Power Girl will be around for a long time.