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RoguishGurl
03-11-2010, 08:59 PM
Here it is folks! Enjoy!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4674&disp=table

*excited*

In my excitement I forgot to add that the art is amazing.

darknessatnoon
03-11-2010, 09:02 PM
Oh, damn. She called Jubilee stupid.

RoguishGurl
03-11-2010, 09:06 PM
Oh, damn. She called Jubilee stupid.
So badass. This issue needs to be out NOW.

Marjorie Liu has such a great grasp of the character. This preview reminds me a lot of the writing in her Hunter series.

Arkady
03-11-2010, 09:06 PM
Looking a bit old school Frank Miller there.

Bigmike
03-11-2010, 09:30 PM
Well, hopefully the book is more than just superpowered teenage angst.

Brian M.
03-11-2010, 09:38 PM
Jubilee is stupid.

Pach!
03-11-2010, 09:39 PM
More characters should be this honest.

Hi-Fi
03-11-2010, 09:47 PM
Laura is a rude bitch.

RoguishGurl
03-11-2010, 09:59 PM
Laura is a rude bitch.
She tells the truth. Sometimes it hurts.

Perfection/Emma 2
03-11-2010, 10:07 PM
Oh, damn. She called Jubilee stupid.

Laura wouldn't say that to Pixie, gutless bitch only picks on the depowered. So I guess this comes out next week to...great and just when I had to pay my bills.

MarvelGirlBoy
03-11-2010, 10:09 PM
"Say that again." What are you going to jubes, poke her with your wit?

Talisman
03-11-2010, 10:14 PM
I'm excited about the verbal berating of Jubilee. This should have been done years ago, besides M givin' her mad digs in Gen. X that is.

Dudebro McTypo
03-11-2010, 10:19 PM
So even Laura addmits that Logan is the closest thing she has to a father...if she wasn't his clone.

And was that jealousy of Jubilee i detected?

This will be next week's highlight for me :biggrin: :cool:

Bigmike
03-11-2010, 10:20 PM
Blah, it's just the X-Verse equivalent of someone picking on the handicapped.

Not an auspicious way to start a story.

Of course, it's only a preview so I'll withhold judgment until the book is out.

RoguishGurl
03-11-2010, 10:23 PM
Blah, it's just the X-Verse equivalent of someone picking on the handicapped.

Not an auspicious way to start a story.

Of course, it's only a preview so I'll withhold judgment until the book is out.
She's not picking on Jubilee. X-23 has been shown to tell anyone of the mistakes they have made. She's told Wolverine many times in X-Force when he does something stupid. She saw that Jubilee made a wrong decision and told her.

Arkady
03-11-2010, 10:28 PM
She's not picking on Jubilee. X-23 has been shown to tell anyone of the mistakes they have made. She's told Wolverine many times in X-Force when he does something stupid. She saw that Jubilee made a wrong decision and told her.

Girl needs to learn to be more tactful.

I'm just happy Jubilee is in something.

Dudebro McTypo
03-11-2010, 10:31 PM
Girl needs to learn to be more tactful.

I'm just happy Jubilee is in something.

Actually Laura's blunt tell it how it is is refreshing and it shows that she cares about the person. If she didnt' care she wouldn't have said anything. :biggrin:

Laura is a caring person, she loves all :tongue:

RoguishGurl
03-11-2010, 10:31 PM
Girl needs to learn to be more tactful.

I'm just happy Jubilee is in something.
That's the thing though, she has not yet perfected her social skills yet. She probably sees no problem in telling Jubilee what she did.

Dudebro McTypo
03-11-2010, 10:32 PM
That's the thing though, she has not yet perfected her social skills yet. She probably sees no problem in telling Jubilee what she did.

Actually if i was in Laura's shoes i would have called Jubilee's plan dumb too.


SO have we figured out the bad guy of this story yet....and did Laura try to commit suicide?

Ziral
03-11-2010, 10:36 PM
Jubilee didn't make a wrong decision here(for once). Helping out people/ looking for support as a former mutant is the right thing to do. X-23 is emotionally immature, she only looks at situations from a tactical point of view.

I thought she would learn her lesson by now. Wolverine abused her the last time she did that Wolfsbane.

Bigmike
03-11-2010, 10:46 PM
She's not picking on Jubilee. X-23 has been shown to tell anyone of the mistakes they have made. She's told Wolverine many times in X-Force when he does something stupid. She saw that Jubilee made a wrong decision and told her.

That's true, I may just be judging a preview too harshly.

CyberHubbs
03-11-2010, 10:47 PM
Marjorie Liu, for some reason, always gives me this sort of Neil Gaiman vibe.

Talisman
03-11-2010, 10:50 PM
Marjorie Liu, for some reason, always gives me this sort of Neil Gaiman vibe.

It's because they have similar haircuts, and both get their vages Brazilian waxed.

CyberHubbs
03-11-2010, 10:56 PM
It's because they have similar haircuts, and both get their vages Brazilian waxed.

Factually untrue. Everyone knows that Brits are 90-95% body hair. Neil probably looks like a Furby down there.

jubilees_boyfriend
03-12-2010, 01:10 AM
This is awesome! I've always wanted to see Jubilee and X-23 interacting together... with the added bonus of Wolverine. What better way to have it done than by Marjorie Liu?
Miss Liu has always loved Jubilee as a character, and does a phenominal job with Laura. From what I've read... I love it.
This one-shot also sets up Marjorie's story with Logan and Jubes in the Girl Comics anthology that is out in April or May. She stated it as being a 'between the scenes' storyline.

Godlike13
03-12-2010, 01:34 AM
I want :biggrin:

worstblogever
03-12-2010, 01:49 AM
Blah, it's just the X-Verse equivalent of someone picking on the handicapped.

It reminds me of the X-Men re-dubbing spoof where Jubilee is portrayed as completely mentally challenged from being mentally probed by Xavier too much.

Seresecros
03-12-2010, 03:22 AM
This looks fantastic. Great style.

Dead former mutants? Oh dear, poor Wind Dancer and Chamber.

MarvelMaster616
03-12-2010, 03:31 AM
Can there be too many X-23 mini-series? I think not! X-23 has become one of my favorite characters since she first showed up in X-men Evolution. I thought her comic series by Kyle and Yost were some of the best stories of the past 10 years. I'm a little bummed that K&Y aren't doing this one because they really had a good feel for her character, but based on the preview it looks like it's going to be a treat.

One thing I was glad to see was how Laura seemed to look at Logan as more of a father figure and not just a clone. That was something I feel the writers never played up enough. Because technically, Logan is her father when you consider it was his genetics mixed with some of her mother's, Sarah Kinney, that made her. I hope this mini plays that up and show X-23 doing what she does best. :biggrin:

Ratstar
03-12-2010, 03:47 AM
It's because they have similar haircuts, and both get their vages Brazilian waxed.
I googled and it turns out Marjorie Liu is actually quite hot. wow.


Factually untrue. Everyone knows that Brits are 90-95% body hair. Neil probably looks like a Furby down there.
I wish this were true :(


One shot looks nice, the cutting always really makes me uncomfortable though, seems pretty clear that X-Force basically regressed her progress a lot.

Any chance if this sells well and she's not dead after SC we'll get another mini or even an ongoing? Or have they completely given up on risky monthlies now?

Foon4000
03-12-2010, 03:59 AM
Teenage girls are awful.

timbox
03-12-2010, 04:24 AM
It's nice to see X-23 acting like herself.

Jmacq1
03-12-2010, 05:08 AM
Any chance if this sells well and she's not dead after SC we'll get another mini or even an ongoing? Or have they completely given up on risky monthlies now?

Probably depends on both this mini-series' sales and on how well some of the other female-centered comics that Marvel's pushing this year do. I think X-23 is probably popular enough to carry a moderately-selling solo series. The trick, of course, is making sure the series isn't just "Wolverine with boobs" yet still including enough action that the guys will pick up the series, too.

darknessatnoon
03-12-2010, 05:15 AM
It's nice to see X-23 acting like herself.

I can't wait to see her lay it down for Rogue when Anna tries to "teach" her or something.

Charybdis4
03-12-2010, 05:27 AM
That scene could only have been improved if Laura had stuck a foot claw into Jube's fugly ass face, then shat on her hideous yellow coat.

Otherwise, well done Laura. Some razor sharp abuse (& claws) directed at Pixie next would be most appreciated.

chickrockguitar
03-12-2010, 05:34 AM
Dude! Okay, so you guys know I'm a BIG X-23 fan. BIG X-23 FAN! Been stoked for this since it was announced. That said,

CRAP, AM I SO DISAPPOINTED. And it hurts.

Two things. The ART. *sighs* I don't like it. I was praying for good art, and this kind of art I do not like... For me... is almost passable. I can read the story, just, with this kind of art. I like detailed, modern art. Where the characters look real. Like Choi for example. I guess I was hoping for the art looking more like what's on the cover.

Also, and, yes, I realise its nit-picking, but Wolvie and X are Bro/Sis not Father/daughter figures. C&C said so.

HOWEVER, apart from those two things, the story, so far, looks great, and I will be picking it up - because it's X-23. And despite what I have said, I really do want this to sell out, so Marvel realise we need more X-23.

darknessatnoon
03-12-2010, 05:38 AM
Dude! Okay, so you guys know I'm a BIG X-23 fan. BIG X-23 FAN! Been stoked for this since it was announced. That said,

CRAP, AM I SO DISAPPOINTED. And it hurts.

Two things. The ART. *sighs* I don't like it. I was praying for good art, and this kind of art I do not like... For me... is almost passable. I can read the story, just, with this kind of art. I like detailed, modern art. Where the characters look real. Like Choi for example. I guess I was hoping for the art looking more like what's on the cover.

Also, and, yes, I realise its nit-picking, but Wolvie and X are Bro/Sis not Father/daughter figures. C&C said so.

HOWEVER, apart from those two things, the story, so far, looks great, and I will be picking it up - because it's X-23. And despite what I have said, I really do want this to sell out, so Marvel realise we need more X-23.


This is detailed modern art. What you like. I think, is "naturalism" or grittier "realism." No impressionistic influences. I am the same way except it's manga influences that make me feel like there are knives coming at my eyes.

The Bro/Sis thing is ridiculous when you think about it, tho, no matter what those two guys say about "laura." No one is 150 years younger than their brother.

timbox
03-12-2010, 05:39 AM
Dude! Okay, so you guys know I'm a BIG X-23 fan. BIG X-23 FAN! Been stoked for this since it was announced. That said,

CRAP, AM I SO DISAPPOINTED. And it hurts.

Two things. The ART. *sighs* I don't like it. I was praying for good art, and this kind of art I do not like... For me... is almost passable. I can read the story, just, with this kind of art. I like detailed, modern art. Where the characters look real. Like Choi for example. I guess I was hoping for the art looking more like what's on the cover.

Also, and, yes, I realise its nit-picking, but Wolvie and X are Bro/Sis not Father/daughter figures. C&C said so.

HOWEVER, apart from those two things, the story, so far, looks great, and I will be picking it up - because it's X-23. And despite what I have said, I really do want this to sell out, so Marvel realise we need more X-23.

The Pixie book is more your style anyways.

Vivica Kang
03-12-2010, 05:40 AM
Miss X-23 better watch her tone. Talking to that grown-up Jubliee like that. I understand she's doing the Logan but...Stick your personality as the troubled teen that has a heart. BTW the art was good on the building but after that....ehh. But Majorwill be giving this a comic to read.

darknessatnoon
03-12-2010, 05:47 AM
Miss X-23 better watch her tone. Talking to that grown-up Jubliee like that. I understand she's doing the Logan but...Stick your personality as the troubled teen that has a heart. BTW the art was good on the building but after that....ehh. But Majorwill be giving this a comic to read.

Jubilee's emo schtick isn't going to fly with Generation Z. Surge already had to call her out as a poseur wannabe homeless.

Bigmike
03-12-2010, 05:57 AM
Jubilee's emo schtick isn't going to fly with Generation Z. Surge already had to call her out as a poseur wannabe homeless.

I can't wait for Generation Steaksauce.

Home made ectoplasm
03-12-2010, 06:06 AM
That scene could only have been improved if Laura had stuck a foot claw into Jube's fugly ass face, then shat on her hideous yellow coat.

"Should Wolverine and X-23 shit on the ground more?"

Jmacq1
03-12-2010, 06:08 AM
The Bro/Sis thing is ridiculous when you think about it, tho, no matter what those two guys say about "laura." No one is 150 years younger than their brother.

Yeah, no kidding. I mean, I guess you could make an argument that it'd be one of those "brother/sister" relationships where the older brother is already an adult when the younger sister is born, but even in that case I don't think there's really any way someone can argue that Logan isn't the closest thing Laura currently has to a father figure.

chickrockguitar
03-12-2010, 06:09 AM
This is detailed modern art. What you like. I think, is "naturalism" or grittier "realism." No impressionistic influences. I am the same way except it's manga influences that make me feel like there are knives coming at my eyes.Yes, you're right, I think it's the "naturalism" kind of art that I like.


The Bro/Sis thing is ridiculous when you think about it, tho, no matter what those two guys say about "laura." No one is 150 years younger than their brother.Firstly, X is Wolvie's GENETIC TWIN. When you are a twin, you have a sibling. Therefore Brother and sister makes sense. And also, no one is 150 years younger than their father either. That statement works both ways.



The Pixie book is more your style anyways.What?! No. Excuse me! It's too "girl-y". Yes, I'm picking it up - as it's got X in it - but, it's a little so "Soap Opera" for me. I'm waiting for some ass-kicking.

X-Force and the X-23 Mini's is what I like. Kick-Ass rocked. Violence!
I don't pick up meny soap opera titles. I like me some ass-kicking, and death.

Or were you talking art? If so, see above.


EDIT:
I forgot to add, I even thought Nation X had better art this this... *sighs*

darknessatnoon
03-12-2010, 06:13 AM
Yes, you're right, I think it's the "naturalism" kind of art that I like.

Firstly, X is Wolvie's GENETIC TWIN. When you are a twin, you have a sibling. Therefore Brother and sister makes sense. And also, no one is 150 years younger than their father either. That statement works both ways.


What?! No. Excuse me! It's too "girl-y". Yes, I'm picking it up - as it's got X in it - but, it's a little so "Soap Opera" for me. I'm waiting for some ass-kicking.

X-Force and the X-23 Mini's is what I like. Kick-Ass rocked. Violence!
I don't pick up meny soap opera titles. I like me some ass-kicking, and death.

Or were you talking art? If so, see above.

OK, sure. But most twins are not born 150 years after their sibling. It stretches the concept of twinning to its breaking point. And when a sibling takes responsibility to raise their much younger brother or sister, then the relationship is a parental one. For example, even if Hope were to be genetically identical to Jean Grey, Cable would still be the one who raised her (even though she would be his biological mother). He'd still be her dad. It's about the role you play in a child's life, not the blood relation. If Wolverine had met X-23 through the Big Brother program and was taking her out to a ballgame once a week, that would feel different to me.

Vivica Kang
03-12-2010, 06:19 AM
Jubilee's emo schtick isn't going to fly with Generation Z. Surge already had to call her out as a poseur wannabe homeless.

LOL! Surge keeps an attitude! It ain't Jubliee's fault that she tries to maintain a realtionship with them.

Jmacq1
03-12-2010, 06:19 AM
Nevermind that if Laura were really Logan's "genetic-twin-except-a-girl", she'd be a heck of a lot uglier (and have genetically-mandated Logan-hair), even with that second X chromosome. Instead, she's practically the spitting image of her mother, which strongly implies there's a lot more of Dr. Kinney's DNA in Laura than has been advertised. As someone above posted, it looks far more like genetically speaking X really is effectively more like a daughter than a twin.

timbox
03-12-2010, 06:21 AM
I’m sure they’ll straighten it all out at the next family reunion.

Chaos_Alfa
03-12-2010, 08:47 AM
Nevermind that if Laura were really Logan's "genetic-twin-except-a-girl", she'd be a heck of a lot uglier (and have genetically-mandated Logan-hair), even with that second X chromosome. Instead, she's practically the spitting image of her mother, which strongly implies there's a lot more of Dr. Kinney's DNA in Laura than has been advertised. As someone above posted, it looks far more like genetically speaking X really is effectively more like a daughter than a twin.

They have never said Laura has gotten any of Dr. Kinney's DNA.

Her looking like Dr. Kinney is just artistic license.

RoguishGurl
03-12-2010, 09:02 AM
They have never said Laura has gotten any of Dr. Kinney's DNA.

Her looking like Dr. Kinney is just artistic license.
That is exactly what Craig Kyle said at one point. He confirmed that Laura's DNA is completely from Wolverine's but like you said, they used artistic license.

And about the brother/father thing, Laura could still see Wolverine as a brother and yet at the same time he could be the closest thing she has to a father like d@n pointed out. I'm sure that's what Liu was hinting at.

Also, I really want to know the significance of those first two pages.

chickrockguitar
03-12-2010, 09:08 AM
OK, sure. But most twins are not born 150 years after their sibling. It stretches the concept of twinning to its breaking point.Children aren't born 150 years after their parents either. That's not what I'm talking about.


And when a sibling takes responsibility to raise their much younger brother or sister, then the relationship is a parental one. For example, even if Hope were to be genetically identical to Jean Grey, Cable would still be the one who raised her (even though she would be his biological mother). He'd still be her dad. It's about the role you play in a child's life, not the blood relation. If Wolverine had met X-23 through the Big Brother program and was taking her out to a ballgame once a week, that would feel different to me.Yes, I understand that completely. I didn't just mean only Genetics. Yes, as I said, they are genetic twins, but what I see when I read the comics, is Logan as a big brother, not a father.


Nevermind that if Laura were really Logan's "genetic-twin-except-a-girl", she'd be a heck of a lot uglier (and have genetically-mandated Logan-hair), even with that second X chromosome. Instead, she's practically the spitting image of her mother, which strongly implies there's a lot more of Dr. Kinney's DNA in Laura than has been advertised. As someone above posted, it looks far more like genetically speaking X really is effectively more like a daughter than a twin. Genetic twins can be born and look nothing alike. My mother and aunt are twins, and they have different hair colour and totally different builds. Identical twins will look alike. Also, regarding the DNA, read below.


They have never said Laura has gotten any of Dr. Kinney's DNA. Her looking like Dr. Kinney is just artistic license.Amen to that. Laura hasn't got any of Kinney's DNA. She just carried Laura to term.

At the end of the day, I guess it depends on how each of us sees the story and the characters. As C&C have stated the Genetic twin thing, so following that, I have always seen Logan as a "Big Brother" to Laura rather than a father. In a way, I guess, yes, being the big brother is kind of being a father figure. I just get miffed when I see "Father/daughter" brought up in the text when it comes to Laura and Logan, lol.

Really, darknessatnoon, when have you and me ever agreed on anything regarding X-23? :tongue:


I’m sure they’ll straighten it all out at the next family reunion.LMAO! :biggrin: Yeah, a family reunion. I'm still waiting for the X-23/Wolvie/Daken one-shot.

Dudebro McTypo
03-12-2010, 09:38 AM
Can there be too many X-23 mini-series? I think not! X-23 has become one of my favorite characters since she first showed up in X-men Evolution. I thought her comic series by Kyle and Yost were some of the best stories of the past 10 years. I'm a little bummed that K&Y aren't doing this one because they really had a good feel for her character, but based on the preview it looks like it's going to be a treat.

While C&C have the best understanding of Laura, since they created her, its also good to see how other writers handle a character. Marvel has a some talented writers doing the X-Books. Every one should get the experience to write Laura.



One thing I was glad to see was how Laura seemed to look at Logan as more of a father figure and not just a clone. That was something I feel the writers never played up enough. Because technically, Logan is her father when you consider it was his genetics mixed with some of her mother's, Sarah Kinney, that made her. I hope this mini plays that up and show X-23 doing what she does best. :biggrin:

This is another thing i wish was explored more: the family relationship between Logan/Laura. Also Laura is a pure clone, both her X chromosomes come from Logan. Sarah was just the surrogate mother. Though at first i thought the say way you did, because Laura looks more like Sarah's clone than she does Logan's.

Uncanny Madman
03-12-2010, 09:38 AM
Aww did pour liddle X-23 get all jealous of Jubilee and Logan's relationship so she had to lash out and call Jubilee stoopid?

lol, in all seriousness though:


She's not picking on Jubilee. X-23 has been shown to tell anyone of the mistakes they have made. She's told Wolverine many times in X-Force when he does something stupid. She saw that Jubilee made a wrong decision and told her.

This is exactly right. Much as I love Jubilee and admire her trying to do something productive (what happened to the "depowered mutant bureau" when she was a New Warrior though?) identifying yourselves as former mutants in a public outreach programme was hardly the most sensible idea.

Book looks good. Interesting art. Nice grasp on X-23's character. I'll get.

Dudebro McTypo
03-12-2010, 10:10 AM
LMAO! :biggrin: Yeah, a family reunion. I'm still waiting for the X-23/Wolvie/Daken one-shot.

Yeah or a Daken/X-23 mini would be cool too :cool:



Also, and, yes, I realise its nit-picking, but Wolvie and X are Bro/Sis not Father/daughter figures. C&C said so.

While C&C might have said it and when they write Laura and Logan it will be a Bro/Sis relationship, by no means are other writers tied down to C&C's creedo.

Also i think who ever made the Hope/Cable point deserves a cookie for making an excellent point. Its the role you play in the child's life that determines the relationship. Also take Jango and Boba from Star Wars. Yes Boba was a clone but Jango was his father because that's the role Jango decided to play.

I think in the last issues of "Not Forgotten" Logan's starting flirt between the lines of "older brother" and "father". And i think that's an idea that would be great for future issues.

But all arguments aside... they're family...plain and simple.And with Clan Wolverine where the patriarch is about 150 years old yet he looks like he's 35-40, the eldest son is 60+ and he looks mid twenties, and the clone/sister/daughter is 16 it get's a little tricky.

Personamanx
03-12-2010, 10:19 AM
Im gonna pick this up most definitely.

Faded
03-12-2010, 10:22 AM
LOL I like all the conflict Jubilee is having with these triflin' bitches.

chickrockguitar
03-12-2010, 10:31 AM
I think in the last issues of "Not Forgotten" Logan's starting flirt between the lines of "older brother" and "father". And i think that's an idea that would be great for future issues.Yes. I agree. I would love to see some more of this. :biggrin:

I'm hoping this one-shot show some of that.

Pixie_Solanas
03-12-2010, 10:33 AM
"stupid"??? lol, no she didn't. This sounds hilarious. I will be buying it.

Dudebro McTypo
03-12-2010, 10:53 AM
Yes. I agree. I would love to see some more of this. :biggrin:

I'm hoping this one-shot show some of that.

ME too :biggrin: :cool:


"stupid"??? lol, no she didn't. This sounds hilarious. I will be buying it.

I think Pixie's bitchyness is rubbing off on Laura

Dudebro McTypo
03-12-2010, 12:03 PM
If you look closely enough on the last page of the preview, it almost looks like Laura's smirking when she's calling Jubilee stupid. :biggrin::cool:

Ryan W
03-12-2010, 12:05 PM
Jubilee's emo schtick isn't going to fly with Generation Z. Surge already had to call her out as a poseur wannabe homeless.

I know it's Jubilee, but Surge can shut the fuc* up always.

RoguishGurl
03-12-2010, 12:27 PM
I am wondering if Logan will notice Laura cutting herself in this issue. He was doing it a few feet from him and he didn't notice a thing.

chickrockguitar
03-12-2010, 12:44 PM
I am wondering if Logan will notice Laura cutting herself in this issue. He was doing it a few feet from him and he didn't notice a thing.Hmm. I don't know. Maybe. If not, then the old man is loosin' he touch. He should be able to smell blood.

Dudebro McTypo
03-12-2010, 12:45 PM
I am wondering if Logan will notice Laura cutting herself in this issue. He was doing it a few feet from him and he didn't notice a thing.

Yeah, i mean you think he would have smelled the blood.

Seresecros
03-12-2010, 02:35 PM
Jubilee all-but-says in this preview that Wind Dancer has been murdered.

CMBMOOL
03-12-2010, 02:41 PM
I can't wait for Jubilee to put Laura in her place.

I mean powers or no powers, Wolvie did taught them better. :tongue:

I mean the least X-23 can do is show some respect. :evilangry:

Dudebro McTypo
03-12-2010, 02:45 PM
Jubilee all-but-says in this preview that Wind Dancer has been murdered.

OH NOES!

Maybe thats why Laura was smirking at the end :tongue:

Prodigy55
03-12-2010, 03:10 PM
Jubilee all-but-says in this preview that Wind Dancer has been murdered.

No you are astupid liar

Dudebro McTypo
03-12-2010, 04:20 PM
No you are astupid liar

It might be possible that she did die...but i doubt it

creaky
03-12-2010, 04:23 PM
I am wondering if Logan will notice Laura cutting herself in this issue. He was doing it a few feet from him and he didn't notice a thing.

Or he didn't care. It wouldn't be the first time he's been a p.o.s towards Laura.

Mia
03-12-2010, 04:43 PM
Laura is a rude bitch.

You say bitch like it's a bad thing!

Seriously though, I am actually glad that Liu wrote her as being straight-to-the-point. I was sort of afraid that she would go to the other extreeme. But I am glad that she understands that Laura has a core of iron. I'm anxious to read this issue. And it has been a long time since I've been anxious to read a comic book.

Jackraow21
03-12-2010, 04:45 PM
Looks good. I'll be picking this up. Is it just a one-shot or a mini series?

Mia
03-12-2010, 04:48 PM
A one shot.

Jhudiel
03-12-2010, 04:49 PM
They have never said Laura has gotten any of Dr. Kinney's DNA.

Her looking like Dr. Kinney is just artistic license.

It could be a soft retcon. Characters' origins are always in flux, and because she looks so much like Dr. Kinney a writer could easily fill in the blanks. Not saying this is the case, but it could be true.

jawbreaker
03-12-2010, 04:50 PM
Jubilee's emo schtick isn't going to fly with Generation Z. Surge already had to call her out as a poseur wannabe homeless.

Jubliee's the one being emo? :confused:

Mia
03-12-2010, 04:51 PM
Also, I really want to know the significance of those first two pages.

You mean the ones in red? She's recounting how she got sucked into prostitution. Pretty standard story of how it happens.


It could be a soft retcon. Characters' origins are always in flux, and because she looks so much like Dr. Kinney a writer could easily fill in the blanks. Not saying this is the case, but it could be true.

Or comic book version of science.

Dudebro McTypo
03-12-2010, 04:54 PM
It could be a soft retcon. Characters' origins are always in flux, and because she looks so much like Dr. Kinney a writer could easily fill in the blanks. Not saying this is the case, but it could be true.

True it could happen. But it if it did it wouldn't' be for a few years?



You say bitch like it's a bad thing!

Seriously though, I am actually glad that Liu wrote her as being straight-to-the-point. I was sort of afraid that she would go to the other extreeme. But I am glad that she understands that Laura has a core of iron. I'm anxious to read this issue. And it has been a long time since I've been anxious to read a comic book.

This is a rarity coming from Mia and her heart of ice :tongue:

AdamYJ
03-12-2010, 05:32 PM
Y'know, I just don't get the appeal of this X-23 character.

No offense to her fans, but I think I've had enough "damaged, deadly badasses" of pretty much every kind. I considered picking this one-shot up for the Jubilee appearance, but I think I'll pass.

The Blinkmeister
03-12-2010, 06:05 PM
I googled and it turns out Marjorie Liu is actually quite hot. wow.


Yeah, I kinda had an image of a bit larger, older Chinese woman (with glasses) in my mind.

Definitely not this woman (who is actually my age):

http://www.gamingangels.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/300px-Marjorie_M._Liu.jpg


http://www.fpusadailyplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/MarjorieM.Liu.jpeg.jpg


http://72.167.126.174/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Marjorie-Liu-red.jpg


What was this thread about again :biggrin:

Personamanx
03-12-2010, 06:29 PM
^^^^^^

Holy Snikeys!!!

Damn my teenaged Hormones!!!

Dudebro McTypo
03-12-2010, 06:35 PM
I think a quote from Wayne's World would be quite appropriate right now: She's a total babe.

drownedbyimmolation
03-12-2010, 09:01 PM
Her (Marjorie Liu) novels are pretty awesome too. I am surprised people didn't already know hot she was.







X-23 is looking/sounding awesome! So can't wait, please turn into an ongoing!!!! I like Jubes too.

orkoni1
03-12-2010, 09:08 PM
I am wondering if Logan will notice Laura cutting herself in this issue. He was doing it a few feet from him and he didn't notice a thing.

He could prolly smell the blood from where he was b/c of his heightened senses. Uh yeah I just realized it's been commented on.

Well. I can't wait to get my hands on this little cupcake of a book, yummy for my mind.

And as to the father/daughter thing, it wouldn't be the first time in the world where and older brother/sister took in his/her siblings and raised them as their own, I watched a movie about something just like this. This 17 or 18 yr old girl through hard work got complete custody of her two little brothers from their drug addict absentee mother. So they can have a father/daughter relationship knowing that they are technically brothers.

And to comment on what someone said earlier, there was a case I watched on tv (crap don't remember it was a few years ago) where two parents had invitro fertiization, which resulted in twins, they decided to have one then while keeping the other frozen, then a few years later like 3 or 4 they had the other twins, tada! twins of different ages. Of course we are talking about 150 yrs dif, but it is comics so please have som sense of suspended disbelieve.

chickrockguitar
03-13-2010, 04:19 AM
Of course we are talking about 150 yrs dif, but it is comics so please have som sense of suspended disbelieve.Amen to that. Regarding the whole "age thing".

Nite-Wing
03-13-2010, 06:13 AM
Laura needs to be put in her place.
How dare she call Jubes stupid in front of wolvie.
Jealous bitch

MuhollandDriver
03-13-2010, 06:46 AM
i'd love for Marjorie Liu to snatch a main title.

Seresecros
03-13-2010, 06:59 AM
i'd love for Marjorie Liu to snatch a main title.

Maybe she could enter the Aaron-Swierczynski X-Force battle royale.

MuhollandDriver
03-13-2010, 07:02 AM
Maybe she could enter the Aaron-Swierczynski X-Force battle royale.

i'd take that. i want her on Uncanny. Come on, Marvel..make this "Year of Women" mean somethin'.

Mundungus
03-13-2010, 07:06 AM
This was awesome!

Seresecros
03-13-2010, 07:08 AM
i'd take that. i want her on Uncanny. Come on, Marvel..make this "Year of Women" mean somethin'.

I think her writing works better when it plays to genre. Uncanny is a cursed title anyway, it shouldn't be wished upon anyone.

Waterlily
03-13-2010, 07:13 AM
i'd love for Marjorie Liu to snatch a main title.

I love her right where she is, writing the characters I want to read about.

Last Cold Soda
03-13-2010, 08:54 AM
Really looking forward to this, especially for the X-23 inner dialogue. Love the art style too, but Logan needs to ditch the cowboy hat and neckerchief and soon.

chickrockguitar
03-13-2010, 09:18 AM
Laura needs to be put in her place.
How dare she call Jubes stupid in front of wolvie.
Jealous bitchAnd that shows that you do not know the character.

She was not being jealous. She was stating the obvious. Laura is right. Sticking a group of people together is the easiest way for them to become a target.

Someone should point this out to Scott as well.

Dudebro McTypo
03-13-2010, 10:11 AM
Really looking forward to this, especially for the X-23 inner dialogue. Love the art style too, but Logan needs to ditch the cowboy hat and neckerchief and soon.

The cowboy hat is a quintessential piece of Clan Wolverine clothing. Daken's rocks it, Logan rocks it, Laura should start wearing one and throw in some cowboy boots for good measure.


And that shows that you do not know the character.

She was not being jealous. She was stating the obvious. Laura is right. Sticking a group of people together is the easiest way for them to become a target.

I'd say it was a mixture of jealousy and Laura being Laura. If you promote a place for former mutants to gather and do stuff they're going to be targeted. BUT if you see Laura's monologue she talks about how Logan is kinda like her father, yet she's a clone. And that Jubilee is Logan's protegee and Laura will never have a bond that Jubilee and Logan have. Add to the fact that she's cutting herself means she's experiencing some heavy emotions



Someone should point this out to Scott as well.

People have tried, but Scott's living in la la land and isn't listening

Slant
03-13-2010, 10:21 AM
Someone should point this out to Scott as well.

Probably not, considering its a completely different situation.

chickrockguitar
03-13-2010, 10:26 AM
People have tired, but Scott's living in la la land and isn't listeningLol! That made me laugh. :biggrin:

Dudebro McTypo
03-13-2010, 10:35 AM
Lol! That made me laugh. :biggrin:

Sometimes i think im typing tried but i end up typing tired lol.

chickrockguitar
03-13-2010, 01:24 PM
Sometimes i think im typing tried but i end up typing tired lol.Lol! I didn't even notice that. And that wasn't the part I was laughing at - to begin with. It is now, lol.

jubilees_boyfriend
03-13-2010, 03:57 PM
I would love for Marjorie to write a series with Wolverine, Jubilee, and X-23. I think she would jump at the opportunity, seeing as she is a fan of all three.

Also- has anyone else read her novel, X-Men: Dark Mirror? I rather enjoyed it...

SPOILERS____

Wolverine, Jean, Rogue, Cyclops, and Nightcrawler were all body snatched and Storm, Gambit, Jubilee, and Beast had to solve the crisis and fight their doubles.

Faded
03-13-2010, 06:02 PM
I'd say it was a mixture of jealousy and Laura being Laura. If you promote a place for former mutants to gather and do stuff they're going to be targeted. BUT if you see Laura's monologue she talks about how Logan is kinda like her father, yet she's a clone. And that Jubilee is Logan's protegee and Laura will never have a bond that Jubilee and Logan have. Add to the fact that she's cutting herself means she's experiencing some heavy emotions

Agreed.

I really like that her dominate characteristic is her cold statement of facts, but inside of her statements is a hint of human emotion (and in this case--jealousy).

tunasammiches
03-13-2010, 07:30 PM
i'm torn about jubilee's age. i mean i know she's been on x-men for years, but i'm kinda not ready for her to not be a teenager any more. i want her to be 16 yrs old tops. i miss the bratty, powder keg. i don't like this responsible x-men veteran/ex-ninja who-was-on-another -team-for-while persona. it's nothing like how she used to be written. but then again that would make her and x23 the same age and i guess that doesn't make much sense. i just miss when she used to be the youngest one in the group.

creaky
03-13-2010, 08:00 PM
i'm torn about jubilee's age. i mean i know she's been on x-men for years, but i'm kinda not ready for her to not be a teenager any more. i want her to be 16 yrs old tops. i miss the bratty, powder keg. i don't like this responsible x-men veteran/ex-ninja who-was-on-another -team-for-while persona. it's nothing like how she used to be written. but then again that would make her and x23 the same age and i guess that doesn't make much sense. i just miss when she used to be the youngest one in the group.

The classic problem with child-star characters. Personally, I like grown-up Jubes. In a way, I feel she grew up better than Kitty.

Mia
03-14-2010, 08:09 AM
I picked up some of my HC yesterday. And among them was Dark Wolverine. I have to say that I was extreemely disapointed. The authors seemed to be breaking the (or at least my) cardinal rule when it comes to storytelling. In that the only reason the villain/hero is successful is because everyone around them is stupid. I know that Liu is one of the writers on DW. So I really hope that I won't be treated to the same hackneyed ham fisted storytelling in this book.

SugarMan
03-14-2010, 09:05 AM
Laura wouldn't say that to Pixie,

That's a joke, right?

Dudebro McTypo
03-14-2010, 09:47 AM
Agreed.

I really like that her dominate characteristic is her cold statement of facts, but inside of her statements is a hint of human emotion (and in this case--jealousy).

Laura is blunt, and should stay blunt. Even when she finds her happy medium in life.

Jubilee should consider herself lucky that Laura's grown emotionally stronger. Because the last time Laura got jealous...bye bye girls restroom :eek:

RoguishGurl
03-14-2010, 07:26 PM
You mean the ones in red? She's recounting how she got sucked into prostitution. Pretty standard story of how it happens.

Oh okay! I was beginning to think it was about the person who is mentioned in the solicits who will try to control her. Since it mentioned him being lonely. Though that makes sense too.

Dudebro McTypo
03-14-2010, 07:30 PM
Oh okay! I was beginning to think it was about the person who is mentioned in the solicits who will try to control her. Since it mentioned him being lonely. Though that makes sense too.

That was my thought too though Zebra Daddy does make sense. We'll find out in a few days...though i won't get my issue till thursday :frown:

q.u.e.e.n.
03-14-2010, 10:25 PM
Mmm.. a bit late, but when Whit showed me this preview it kind of got me back into an X-23 mood!

Alina Urusov's X-23 is fantastic! She looks slightly Elektra-ish. I'm liking it.