View Full Version : Superboy Prime are Powerful ?
Phil3940
03-05-2010, 09:21 PM
I notice that Superboy prime very powerful than Superman and Superboy also Superman earth-2
I notice that Superboy prime very powerful than Superman and Superboy also Superman earth-2
So it would seem. I understand it has something to do with his Krypton not blowing up or something to that effect. However, I want to see him "finger pluck" Doomsday's lights out to prove it though -- otherwise :confused:
edublz14
03-05-2010, 10:24 PM
So it would seem. I understand it has something to do with his Krypton not blowing up or something to that effect. However, I want to see him "finger pluck" Doomsday's lights out to prove it though -- otherwise :confused:
Ummmm... not really.
His power levels have all to do to with the Pre-Crisis DCU of which Superboy Prime comes from.
Pre Crisis superman was INSANELY powerful and superboy prime was just as powerful, after the events of infinite crisis, SBP re-entered the DCU at his pre crisis powerlevels.
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kal-El_%28Earth-Prime%29
one of the things that DC did Post CoIE was power down Superman, pre crisis, superman could do things like move planets, was faster than the Flash etc...
hope that helps
Sentry76
03-06-2010, 09:47 AM
You know what this makes me think of? Why was the Earth-2 Superman so underpowered? He was marginally less powerful than the Pre-Crisis Superman wasn't he?
Superboy Prime being so strong makes sense but Kal-L's lack of strength always puzzled me.
The Joker
03-06-2010, 10:12 AM
You know what this makes me think of? Why was the Earth-2 Superman so underpowered? He was marginally less powerful than the Pre-Crisis Superman wasn't he?
Superboy Prime being so strong makes sense but Kal-L's lack of strength always puzzled me.
That's a good question.
Yeah, Kal-L was typically depicted as being less powerful than the Pre-Crisis Superman, but not significantly. During the final battle with the Anti-Monitor in COIE, it was Kal-L that actually knocked out Pre-Crisis Supes and decided upon taking on the Anti-Monitor alone while other's made their way to safety. Which basically conveyed that Kal-L was a VERY powerful figure in his own right. With Infinite Crisis, I believe the reason Kal-L's power level was a bit downplayed, was simply to project SBP as more of a threat.
Paul Newell
03-06-2010, 02:44 PM
The in story reason wass because of his age. Pre-Crisis that was sometimes applied and other times wasn't.
edublz14
03-06-2010, 11:51 PM
You know what this makes me think of? Why was the Earth-2 Superman so underpowered? He was marginally less powerful than the Pre-Crisis Superman wasn't he?
Superboy Prime being so strong makes sense but Kal-L's lack of strength always puzzled me.
this puzzeled me as well, also puzzling is that PG was also a pre=crisis lvl kryptonian as well albiet from pre crisis E2 however she is sometimes shown as weaker than SG or supes.... puzzeling:confused:
Alex L
03-08-2010, 12:11 AM
I have a No-Prize theory that it actually has to do with the respective universe's sun itself -- that New Earth's sun gives less juice to the Kryptonians than the old Earth-1's.
So if Clark were to somehow travel to SBP's original Earth, he'd be exposed to his sun and be proportionately as amped as he is.
This would also serve to scale back SBP for any future stories. He'd have used up his old battery charge, so to speak, and any recharges would be from a source that just isn't as good.
Kevin Vetter
03-08-2010, 01:17 AM
I think it would be better if the reason was that there are differences between them because they are from different universes so various things in all the different universes affect each of them differently. Like kryptonite and magic not having any effect on prime except when it was from his universe.
There could be a universe where earth-2 supes gets a bigger boost and primes power level drops or there could be a difference in how long it takes them to charge up or how long they can retain the power. It didn't take prime very long at all to recharge once he got back to earth after sitting in front of a red sun for a year.
I think the best answer would be that since he is considerably older than prime is it takes longer for him to recharge and his power fades quicker and he was in that little pocket dimension for quite a long time.
Ribbonz
03-08-2010, 01:41 AM
It boggles the mind that Superboy-Prime is this uber powerfull killing machine,, yet mainsteam Superman has stood toe to toe with him on a few occasions and lived. Superman never technacialy won the fights (Nor did he lose) but he still has gone one on one with him. Consistancy PEOPLE!
Damiean Dark
03-08-2010, 04:30 AM
It boggles the mind that Superboy-Prime is this uber powerfull killing machine,, yet mainsteam Superman has stood toe to toe with him on a few occasions and lived. Superman never technacialy won the fights (Nor did he lose) but he still has gone one on one with him. Consistancy PEOPLE!
Agreed he always was just a plot device for an event really (just like Doomsday was) but instead of killing them off DC continue to use them.
Prime has the power to rip supermans head off while making tea and they have put him in the stupid situations we have seen since his last big appearance? its crazy.
tommo123
03-08-2010, 05:03 AM
yeah, should be used sparingly as a huge big bad - like darkseid should really
Pipthetroll
03-08-2010, 09:40 AM
It's just another "threat" to superman.
Damiean Dark
03-08-2010, 12:55 PM
yeah, should be used sparingly as a huge big bad - like darkseid should really
But Darkseid has/had an actual place in the DCU (at least before DC turned him into such a wimpy whipping boy for superman) he was at one time the ultimate schemer master maniplater and had an arrogant streak a mile wide who would rarely sully his hands in actual combat but when he did he was capable of beating Superman.
And who remembers that time a long long ago when the Omega Effect was feared throughout the universe? he was a bit like a super powered Dr Doom.
Its a damn shame what they did to one of the best villains in comics Darkseid is a shadow of what he used to be imo.
tommo123
03-09-2010, 12:23 AM
that's what i mean. a character powerful enough to beat on superman without fearing any consequences should be used sparingly otherwise you get the spectre effect = oh, somethings come up, i have to go. whoops, here's a convenient plot device that takes me down etc etc etc.
there was an elseworlds type story with supes being raised by darkseid and eventually turns on him. that supes (one who doesn't hold back in the least) takes on big D and gets bloodied. only a secondary plot device saves his a$$.
that's the Darkseid i want. not someone equal in strength to supes, but someone vastly stronger. Someone who can break his ribs, jaw whatever he hits with 1 punch. a "God" who can kill him if he chooses to - and that's without the omega effect.
Superboy prime should be in an 'almost there' power level IMO and why either character should only appear very rarely due to the power they have and because no 1 character (barr Spectre) can take them on.
AugustEngine
03-09-2010, 12:56 AM
A wizard did it.
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