Smallville: You Will Believe A Man Can Fly (Just Not Who You Think - Spoilers)

[WorstThingUS]

So, the latest episode of Smallville returns full time to the struggle between Clark and Zod. Zod is losing influence over the Kandorians and knows Clark destroyed the towers to keep them all powerless. He blames the recent abductions of Kandorians on Clark because they were left powerless (don't bring up the fact that, as trained soldiers they should still be quite capable). One of whom is a girl who clearly has a crush on Clark. Clark and her sister go looking one way while Zod goes another. And while that happens the kidnapper actually goes straight to Lois and when she rebuffs him, he kidnaps her too, bringing her to his lab where the girl is still alive, while the others are dead and being dissected. He's convinces of an alien invasion and plans on using their bodies as proof. We learn with Clark they were not chosen at random. They were in fact taking bodies from the hospital morgue to experiment on as a way to finding out how to regain the powers that Jor-El took away when he cloned them. Through Lois we learn the kidnapper was one such corpse and was basically driven crazy by the procedure (we see his Hellraiser/Pinhead like skull). Zod finds Lois first and frees her, but is fatally wounded. Clark shows up and clearly unbeatable the kidnapper commits suicide. Clark then saves Zod by giving him some of his fully solar charged blood. Zod later hides the fact that aside from healing him, the blood has replicated and restored his ability to take power from the yellow sun as he flies from the roof of the Daily Planet. Luckily, Green Arrow and Chloe are hiding from Clark the fact that they're stockpiling kyrptonite weapons just in case Zod and his people ever did get powers. Well, Chloe was, then Ollie found out and now they're doing it together and trying to keep them from Tess. Also, Lois kept a sample of the blood the kidnapper gave her and it was taken by Waller and Checkmate.

Not a bad little episode. The Kandorian plot means a minimal amount of the horrible "witty patois" the writers think they do well, but actually suck so badly at it should actually be used to torture people at Guantanamo. Of course I still fast forward through Lois & Clark scenes because a) I didn't watch that show the first time and b) that's when they do use that crappy dialogue and it's never as bad as when Lois is doing it.

Next week: Clark learns Zod has powers and does the thing he probably should have done for all the Kandorians first thing: takes them to the Fortress. Maybe he'll finally get around to telling them what the real Zod did on Krypton and tried to do on earth. Though it would be kind of stupid to tell one Zod there's another one in the Phantom Zone.

[celticguy]

I think I saw some some nipple when that Kandorian was in the ziplock bag.

[dumbstruck]

Yet another Kryptonian who has his powers for all of 30 seconds and immediately knows how to fly. Yet Clark, who's been drinking in the sunlight and learning his powers for 20 something years, does not.

Pretty lame.

[WorstThingUS]

Yet another Kryptonian who has his powers for all of 30 seconds and immediately knows how to fly. Yet Clark, who's been drinking in the sunlight and learning his powers for 20 something years, does not.

Pretty lame.

It's been established that Clark has a mental block that prevents him from flying (though he did fly when in Kal-El mode in season 4). He does, however, leap tall buildings in a single bound, so there's actually some pure Superman mythos still going on.

[dumbstruck]

It's been established that Clark has a mental block that prevents him from flying (though he did fly when in Kal-El mode in season 4). He does, however, leap tall buildings in a single bound, so there's actually some pure Superman mythos still going on.

Also lame. Considering Clark, depending on which continuity you prefer, could either fly as Superboy, or developed flight in his late teens, prompting him to "walk the earth, like Cane in Kung Fu" before debuting as Superman.

But, for arguments sake, even taking this so-called mental block into account, it's still stupid that all these other Kryptonians instantly have their powers and know how to use them, while Clark's are doled out slower than molasses.

And on that note, why wouldn't MM help him to overcome his mental block?

[Gabe De Los Muertos]

I hate Tom Welling.

[WorstThingUS]

Also lame. Considering Clark, depending on which continuity you prefer, could either fly as Superboy, or developed flight in his late teens, prompting him to "walk the earth, like Cane in Kung Fu" before debuting as Superman.

But, for arguments sake, even taking this so-called mental block into account, it's still stupid that all these other Kryptonians instantly have their powers and know how to use them, while Clark's are doled out slower than molasses.

And on that note, why wouldn't MM help him to overcome his mental block?

Clearly it's a producer's edict, much like Power Girl having nothing to do with New Krypton being an editorial edict. But in terms of "in story logic" (which doesn't exist for Power Girl) Clark acquired his powers one by one as a teenager. Everyone else got theirs as a full-grown adult. Also, no one else secretly wants to be nothing more than human the way he does.

And I thought it was pretty sweet how they decided to go with "leaping tall buildings" as a way of getting around "no flights."


I hate Tom Welling.

Dude, it's not his fault he's pretty.

[dumbstruck]

Clearly it's a producer's edict, much like Power Girl having nothing to do with New Krypton being an editorial edict. But in terms of "in story logic" (which doesn't exist for Power Girl) Clark acquired his powers one by one as a teenager. Everyone else got theirs as a full-grown adult. Also, no one else secretly wants to be nothing more than human the way he does.

And I thought it was pretty sweet how they decided to go with "leaping tall buildings" as a way of getting around "no flights."



Dude, it's not his fault he's pretty.


I understand it's an edict from a production standpoint. But if you're going to have powers develop a certain way for one person, and have everyone else get them another, they are simply ignoring their own set of rules. In this case, all it's doing is highlighting one of the shows weaknesses.

[WorstThingUS]

I understand it's an edict from a production standpoint. But if you're going to have powers develop a certain way for one person, and have everyone else get them another, they are simply ignoring their own set of rules. In this case, all it's doing is highlighting one of the shows weaknesses.

Again, every other Kryptonian who arrives on earth has done so as a full-grown adult. Clark is the only one to grow up here and developed his powers one at a time. There's not a lot of conflict.

[dumbstruck]

Again, every other Kryptonian who arrives on earth has done so as a full-grown adult. Clark is the only one to grow up here and developed his powers one at a time. There's not a lot of conflict.


Except that the idea is that a Kryptonian needs to charge his cells in order for the powers to manifest themselves. Without that charge, no powers. It's ridiculous that Clark seems to be the only one who needs to charge.

But again, for arguments sake, even assuming a Kryptonian instantly has powers, (see the introduction of Kara when she was fished out of the bottom of the lake where she had no sunlight and immediately flew off upon her release), what's the logic behind them knowing how to use their powers? It's like any other skill. You may have an innate talent for something, but you still need to learn how to use it and cultivate it. As I said, the showrunners have one set of Kryptonian power rules for Clark, and a completely different set for every other Krytonian.

[Rix]

Ummm, I must've missed something this season. Why don't all the Kandorians already have the powers under a yellow sun? How would their plan of turning (or filtering) the sun red thru a wacky tower give them powers? And why do they talk as if they used to have powers? I mean, being on Krypton, they shouldn't have had any.

Back to the recent episode... Maybe Clark should have wondered how Zod got on the roof.

[WorstThingUS]

Except that the idea is that a Kryptonian needs to charge his cells in order for the powers to manifest themselves. Without that charge, no powers. It's ridiculous that Clark seems to be the only one who needs to charge.

That's a comic book conceit from John Byrne. It's never been in the show. The sun turns yellow, everyone is instantly powered up.


But again, for arguments sake, even assuming a Kryptonian instantly has powers, (see the introduction of Kara when she was fished out of the bottom of the lake where she had no sunlight and immediately flew off upon her release), what's the logic behind them knowing how to use their powers? It's like any other skill. You may have an innate talent for something, but you still need to learn how to use it and cultivate it. As I said, the showrunners have one set of Kryptonian power rules for Clark, and a completely different set for every other Krytonian.

The powers Clark had to "learn" to use were x-ray vision, heat vision and super-hearing. Powers we've yet to see any Kryptonian use. Flight appears to be very natural as shown by Jor-El's visit to earth in the past. Still no conflict.

[RockinRobin182]

It's not like its very graceful flying either. It's just like..."Go.", and kinda comet like. It's zooming, not really soaring. Doesn't seem like its so hard to master. But, whatever, someone is still flying, so logic only comes into play minimally...

[Tracer Bullet]

Ummm, I must've missed something this season. Why don't all the Kandorians already have the powers under a yellow sun? How would their plan of turning (or filtering) the sun red thru a wacky tower give them powers? And why do they talk as if they used to have powers? I mean, being on Krypton, they shouldn't have had any.


Back to the recent episode... Maybe Clark should have wondered how Zod got on the roof.
This.... And whereis Kara?(yes I know the actress is on V) she was supposed to be looking for Kandor, yes?

[RockinRobin182]

This.... And whereis Kara?(yes I know the actress is on V) she was supposed to be looking for Kandor, yes?

I thought she was keeping Brainiac in space or the phantom zone or something?

[Tracer Bullet]

I thought she was keeping Brainiac in space or the phantom zone or something?

Braniac sent her to the Phantom Zone, but Clark freed her some time later and she said she was going to go look for Kandor.

[dumbstruck]

That's a comic book conceit from John Byrne. It's never been in the show. The sun turns yellow, everyone is instantly powered up.

It's a logical conceit though. They've established the yellow sun is the source of powers, but it isn't magic. Having powers and knowing how to use them 5 seconds after exposure to yellow sunlight is stretching suspension of disbelief in a big way.

[WorstThingUS]

It's a logical conceit though. They've established the yellow sun is the source of powers, but it isn't magic. Having powers and knowing how to use them 5 seconds after exposure to yellow sunlight is stretching suspension of disbelief in a big way.

But it's been a constant for all full grown Kryptonians on the show. You also forget that, unlike Clark, they knew they were supposed to have powers and presumably were briefed on them. Aside from being the only person to have to grow up on earth, he's the only Kyrptonian not to know this. The show's internal logic still holds...and I'd never, ever thought I'd say that about Smallville.

[dumbstruck]

But it's been a constant for all full grown Kryptonians on the show. You also forget that, unlike Clark, they knew they were supposed to have powers and presumably were briefed on them. Aside from being the only person to have to grow up on earth, he's the only Kyrptonian not to know this. The show's internal logic still holds...and I'd never, ever thought I'd say that about Smallville.

I have to disagree. Expecting powers and actually knowing how to use them are two different things. Having the capacity to read and write doesn't automatically make you a good reader and writer. The same holds true for a fictional ability, such as super powers. This was also a problem with Superman 2. Zod and crew were released from The Phantom Zone, and immediately had powers. Even the animated series Phantom Zone criminals had their powers a lot quicker than they should have. Although they did alleviate this by having a few scenes where they were actually learning how to use their newfound powers.

It's also ridiculous that Clark, who has mastered and accepted all his powers, somehow still refuses to accept his ability to fly. Especially because he knows that it is a Kryptonian ability. He knows he has the ability to fly. Not only when he was "Kal El", but in the pilot I believe, he woke up in the morning and found himself floating above his bed. He also told Jonathan he felt as though he were flying when he saved Lana from the tornado. And he wasn't talking about the tornado's winds keeping him aloft. There is nothing logically that should be keeping Clark's feet on the ground. The only thing keeping him from flying is the producers now ridiculous "no flights, no tights" rule which flies in the face of everything they've established over the years.

[WorstThingUS]

I have to disagree. Expecting powers and actually knowing how to use them are two different things. Having the capacity to read and write doesn't automatically make you a good reader and writer. The same holds true for a fictional ability, such as super powers. This was also a problem with Superman 2. Zod and crew were released from The Phantom Zone, and immediately had powers. Even the animated series Phantom Zone criminals had their powers a lot quicker than they should have. Although they did alleviate this by having a few scenes where they were actually learning how to use their newfound powers.

It may challenge your suspension of disbelief, but honestly there are no rules but for the ones that are given to you.


It's also ridiculous that Clark, who has mastered and accepted all his powers, somehow still refuses to accept his ability to fly. Especially because he knows that it is a Kryptonian ability. He knows he has the ability to fly. Not only when he was "Kal El", but in the pilot I believe, he woke up in the morning and found himself floating above his bed. He also told Jonathan he felt as though he were flying when he saved Lana from the tornado. And he wasn't talking about the tornado's winds keeping him aloft. There is nothing logically that should be keeping Clark's feet on the ground. The only thing keeping him from flying is the producers now ridiculous "no flights, no tights" rule which flies in the face of everything they've established over the years.

Everyone knows it's a producer's edict but it's been given an in-story explanation, albeit silly. Again, it challenges your suspension of disbelief but the show continues to follow its own rule of Clark cannot consciously will himself to fly.

[Dick/babs]

dumbstruck

You need to remember Clarke is a farm boy and Zod is a well Traind Kryptonian Soldier and Zod and his Soldiers are the Kryptonian Military Finest

And there is no evidence that Earth is the first planet Zod and his Soldiers did Visit with a Yellow Sun

[dumbstruck]

It may challenge your suspension of disbelief, but honestly there are no rules but for the ones that are given to you.



Everyone knows it's a producer's edict but it's been given an in-story explanation, albeit silly. Again, it challenges your suspension of disbelief but the show continues to follow its own rule of Clark cannot consciously will himself to fly.

Yes, they're maintaining that rule, but it's a rule that no longer makes sense given what the same producers have established.

[dumbstruck]

dumbstruck

You need to remember Clarke is a farm boy and Zod is a well Traind Kryptonian Soldier and Zod and his Soldiers are the Kryptonian Military Finest

Doesn't change the fact that Clark is essentially the expert when it comes to powers. He's had his powers for years, and knows he should be flying. There is really no in-story reason that makes sense anymore. If they hadn't introduced the insta-powers every other Kryptonian gets, then it would be a different story. But as it is, Clark should be flying based on the show's logic.


And there is no evidence that Earth is the first planet Zod and his Soldiers did Visit with a Yellow Sun


And how do you explain Kara? She wasn't a soldier when she was sent to Earth.

It has been established Kryptonians have visited Earth in the past. So the effects of a yellow sun would be known to some. However, while there is no evidence that Zod and the K military haven't visited other yellow sun planets, there also is no reason to assume that they have. So until it's established they have, I'll continue to assume their knowledge of the yellow sun comes from Jor El and any others that may have visited Earth, rather than from interplanetary conquests that gave them yellow sun exposure.

[WorstThingUS]

Yes, they're maintaining that rule, but it's a rule that no longer makes sense given what the same producers have established.

How have they countered their own rules? Full grown adults get their powers instantly as shown by Jor-El, Zod (when he "possessed" Luthor) and Kara. Adolescents (which Clark started as) get them slowly one by one. Clark has a mental block on flying, which other Kryptonians do not, hence Clark's use of it when either dreaming or in an altered mental state such as Kal-El. Some powers like flying appear to be intuitive, whereas others are not, as Clark had to teach Kara how to use superhearing. Clark had no idea he was supposed to get powers much less which ones, the Kryptonians--especially the scientists and militia---have known from day one they get powers on Earth and presumably which ones.

[dumbstruck]

How have they countered their own rules? Full grown adults get their powers instantly as shown by Jor-El, Zod (when he "possessed" Luthor) and Kara. Adolescents (which Clark started as) get them slowly one by one. Clark has a mental block on flying, which other Kryptonians do not, hence Clark's use of it when either dreaming or in an altered mental state such as Kal-El.

So how do you explain the tornado?


Some powers like flying appear to be intuitive, whereas others are not, as Clark had to teach Kara how to use superhearing. Clark had no idea he was supposed to get powers much less which ones, the Kryptonians--especially the scientists and militia---have known from day one they get powers on Earth and presumably which ones.

Because it makes no sense. What's the logic behind sunlight magically bestowing powers? They've referred to Clark's cells as being solar batteries. Batteries don't spontaneously charge upon being plugged into a power source. They need time. So again, what's the logic? Even taking the magic sunlight as a given, even taking their foreknowledge as a given, they would still need to learn how to use their powers. Being quick on your feet doesn't make you an Olympic level sprinter. You have to train. Likewise the Kryptonians. There is no logic behind what they've established happens to Kryptonians vs what happens to Clark. Clark may not have had the knowledge of his powers, but he has embraced them, he's learned how to use them, and he knows flying is one of his powers. What's the logical, in-story reason he would still have a mental block for flying? "I accept my powers, uhhhhh, except that one." Makes. No. Sense.

[WorstThingUS]

So how do you explain the tornado?

He wasn't trying to "consciously" fly then either.



Because it makes no sense. What's the logic behind sunlight magically bestowing powers? They've referred to Clark's cells as being solar batteries. Batteries don't spontaneously charge upon being plugged into a power source. They need time. So again, what's the logic? Even taking the magic sunlight as a given, even taking their foreknowledge as a given, they would still need to learn how to use their powers. Being quick on your feet doesn't make you an Olympic level sprinter. You have to train.

And babies have a natural affinity to survive in water, yet hundreds of adults die from drowning every year. Flying as been shown repeatedly as something that is intuitive to pretty much everyone (the Warrior Angel kid could fly), while other abilities are not. There's been no contradiction to this shown. Also, Clark's developing body may have had to charge for his powers to develop but, when Zod's towers went down, his adult body had his powers instantly. John Byrne's "battery" rule has no bearing outside the comic and may not have any bearing post reboot currently.



Likewise the Kryptonians. There is no logic behind what they've established happens to Kryptonians vs what happens to Clark. Clark may not have had the knowledge of his powers, but he has embraced them, he's learned how to use them, and he knows flying is one of his powers. What's the logical, in-story reason he would still have a mental block for flying? "I accept my powers, uhhhhh, except that one." Makes. No. Sense.

To. You. You don't make the rules for this show. In his book "The Trouble With Tribbles, author David Gerrold talks about how when he first saw Star Trek he thought the transporter didn't make sense because you need a receiving booth. "Everybody" knows that, right? Then he realizes who is he to say what the rules are for this fantasy environment someone else created? If even one other Kryptonian needed flying lessons that would be a contradiction, but none have. You don't like the reasoning for Clark not flying? Fine. But a reason has been given.

[RockinRobin182]

The current argument is concerning a show predominantly featuring:
-aliens
-chaos magic
-reincarnated ancient Egyptians
-mutants caused by meteors
-a Martian
-super speed
-super strength
-invulnerability
-heat vision
-x-ray vision

...and you're worried about how logical flying is? Not even flying, but mastering it? I'd say it makes about as much sense as everything else has so far.

[dumbstruck]

He wasn't trying to "consciously" fly then either.



And babies have a natural affinity to survive in water, yet hundreds of adults die from drowning every year. Flying as been shown repeatedly as something that is intuitive to pretty much everyone (the Warrior Angel kid could fly), while other abilities are not. There's been no contradiction to this shown.

So Clark is the only person not intuitive enough to fly? Well, that makes complete sense.



Also, Clark's developing body may have had to charge for his powers to develop but, when Zod's towers went down, his adult body had his powers instantly.

Uhh, what? Zod got his powers from Clark's blood. The towers were meant to filter out the yellow wavelength, thus turning the sunlight red, which would have given the Zodites their powers.


John Byrne's "battery" rule has no bearing outside the comic and may not have any bearing post reboot currently.

The "battery rule" as you put it, does have bearing since they have referred to Clark's cells as batteries on Smallville.

To. You. You don't make the rules for this show. In his book "The Trouble With Tribbles, author David Gerrold talks about how when he first saw Star Trek he thought the transporter didn't make sense because you need a receiving booth. "Everybody" knows that, right? Then he realizes who is he to say what the rules are for this fantasy environment someone else created? If even one other Kryptonian needed flying lessons that would be a contradiction, but none have. You don't like the reasoning for Clark not flying? Fine. But a reason has been given.[/QUOTE]

So, you're telling me you don't have a logical reason why he has a mental block. No reason has been given. He just does. Even in a fantasy environment, you need to adhere to some realism. Saying he's got a mental block just because is a lazy writer's solution. Especially, as I said, since he's wholeheartedly embraced his powers as a part of him. I would get the mental block if he hadn't embraced them, or has a fear of heights or something. Not "He just does". If another Kryptonian needed flying lessons it would be in keeping with how they're treating Clark. It wouldn't be a contradiction at all. It would imply flight is a power that not everyone gets the first time. As it is, they've established everyone gets the first time, except Clark. That's the contradiction.

[dumbstruck]

The current argument is concerning a show predominantly featuring:
-aliens
-chaos magic
-reincarnated ancient Egyptians
-mutants caused by meteors
-a Martian
-super speed
-super strength
-invulnerability
-heat vision
-x-ray vision

...and you're worried about how logical flying is? Not even flying, but mastering it? I'd say it makes about as much sense as everything else has so far.

Not how logical flying is. How logical someone not flying is given the rules established by the show.

[WorstThingUS]

So Clark is the only person not intuitive enough to fly? Well, that makes complete sense.

No, it's a skill he'll naturally have if he could overcome the block that would let him get off the ground.



Uhh, what? Zod got his powers from Clark's blood. The towers were meant to filter out the yellow wavelength, thus turning the sunlight red, which would have given the Zodites their powers.

No, in the episode in the future some truly illogical nonsense means red solar radiation given the Kandorians powers. Now that contradicts all we've ever seen! In any case, the moment the towers come down, Clark is back to full strength.



The "battery rule" as you put it, does have bearing since they have referred to Clark's cells as batteries on Smallville.

Clark was an adolescent raised on earth. What applies to him clearly has never once applied to any fully grown adult Kryptonians on earth or even to Clark as a full adult



So, you're telling me you don't have a logical reason why he has a mental block. No reason has been given. He just does. Even in a fantasy environment, you need to adhere to some realism. Saying he's got a mental block just because is a lazy writer's solution. Especially, as I said, since he's wholeheartedly embraced his powers as a part of him. I would get the mental block if he hadn't embraced them, or has a fear of heights or something. Not "He just does".

No, I'm saying the reason for the non-flight has been given. The reason for the block itself is not known and is actually a sub-plot on the show that was addressed on the first episode of the this season. Logic suggests it's still the part of him that wants to just be a normal human, literally keeping him "grounded" but the show itself has not said so.



If another Kryptonian needed flying lessons it would be in keeping with how they're treating Clark. It wouldn't be a contradiction at all. It would imply flight is a power that not everyone gets the first time. As it is, they've established everyone gets the first time, except Clark. That's the contradiction.

No, because Clark has a block. You don't like it. But that's the reason. Without the block, we've seen him fly intuitively, without guidance as Kal-El. Just as everyone else who has the power to fly, human or Kryptonian has done.

http://www.tvcrazy.net/tvclassics/wallpaper/superman/smallville/kal-el.jpg

[RockinRobin182]

Not how logical flying is. How logical someone not flying is given the rules established by the show.

Clark can fly, he just doesn't want to. In his mind, it's the last straw between him and humanity (but it's not really, and I think he'll have to overcome that). More evidence to suggest that the last five seconds of the series finale will be him flying in the costume.

[dumbstruck]

No, in the episode in the future some truly illogical nonsense means red solar radiation given the Kandorians powers. Now that contradicts all we've ever seen! In any case, the moment the towers come down, Clark is back to full strength.

It was established Jor-El manipulated their DNA. Presumably so the yellow sun does not give them their powers. Hence the need for the tower. Jor-El didn't foresee Zod figuring out a way to turn the sun red.

[WorstThingUS]

It was established Jor-El manipulated their DNA. Presumably so the yellow sun does not give them their powers. Hence the need for the tower. Jor-El didn't foresee Zod figuring out a way to turn the sun red.

He treated the clone DNA with blue kryptonite which then begs the question, if being treated with blue K gives you superpowers, it wasn't used on Krypton why?

[dupersuper]

I think I saw some some nipple when that Kandorian was in the ziplock bag.

Kryptonian nudes...how exotic.



Dude, it's not his fault he's pretty.

So...don't hate him because he's beautiful? :tongue:


Except that the idea is that a Kryptonian needs to charge his cells in order for the powers to manifest themselves. Without that charge, no powers. It's ridiculous that Clark seems to be the only one who needs to charge.

Actually, the fact that it takes so little time for full grown Kryptonians to build up to full power may point to Clark having MASSIVE reserves, assuming the stories in which he looses his powers didn't purge his cells of energy.



But again, for arguments sake, even assuming a Kryptonian instantly has powers, (see the introduction of Kara when she was fished out of the bottom of the lake where she had no sunlight and immediately flew off upon her release), what's the logic behind them knowing how to use their powers? It's like any other skill. You may have an innate talent for something, but you still need to learn how to use it and cultivate it. As I said, the showrunners have one set of Kryptonian power rules for Clark, and a completely different set for every other Krytonian.

Well, Kara HAD been to Earth before...


Ummm, I must've missed something this season. Why don't all the Kandorians already have the powers under a yellow sun? How would their plan of turning (or filtering) the sun red thru a wacky tower give them powers? And why do they talk as if they used to have powers? I mean, being on Krypton, they shouldn't have had any.


Their dna was altered; they need red sunlight for powers, not yellow.


He treated the clone DNA with blue kryptonite which then begs the question, if being treated with blue K gives you superpowers, it wasn't used on Krypton why?

Maybe it was, and that's why every one knows how to fly...? :cool: Seriously, I think you have to just accept Jor el was just THAT smart...otherwise you might wonder why they didn't have a tower on Krypton to turn the suns rays yellow, or just have artificial yellow sunlight.

[Daybreak_st]

The no flights no tights rule is outdated and serves no real purpose. Originally it was designed to make the show more credible and grounded. This was a teenage Clark but not superboy so there would be no costume. Also he was getting one new power a season. It would’ve been easy to make flight the last power. Also there were no other characters in costume or flying. So the rule was across the board not simply applied to Clark. That is no longer the case.

Currently the no flights no tights rule ONLY applies to Clark and what’s the point in that? All it does is make him look weak in comparison to other characters. The worst example is all of season 7 when Kara was a regular on the show. Now you have a series regular who can fly while Clark can’t? :confused: Then near the end of the season Brainiac comes back, he can also fly now, so you have kara and brainiac flying, while Clark is stuck on the ground. During the episode (and this was in the official advertisement “Clark learns to fly”) kara tries to teach Clark to fly so they will both be on the same level as brainiac. The scene is only a few seconds and Clark basically says it’s a waste of time and that’s it. Episode ends with Kara and B flying off into space leaving Clark on earth. He looked so incredibly weak at that point it’s hard to put into words. :mad:

When you have the actual characters of the show like chloe telling Clark (after he told her bizarre could fly) “geez Clark you really need to get on that one”. You have the show making fun of itself.

The season 4 premiere was awesome, seeing Clark fly for the first time, I think most fans really enjoyed that scene, it was a wow moment. Up til then we’d gotten hints about his ability growing (season 1 episode 2 – floating over his bed, season 2 – premiere saving lana from tornado, then telling his dad he thinks he was flying, later in season 2 Clark dreams he’s flying over Smallville, only to be found by lex in the middle of the road [to name just a few]) . At that point no other character had been shown to fly so seeing Clark do it was fantastic.

Now we’ve seen flight over and over again and are constantly reminded of how lame it is that Clark can’t fly. At some point they’re going to make him fly probably on the last episode but instead of the “wow” moment they’re thinking of it’ll just be a “it’s about time” reaction from the fans.

I honestly think the only reason that rule is still around is b/c they’ve written themselves into a corner by continuing the show for so long. To end the show with a bang their only option is to make him fly and wear the suit. In the past they could’ve ended the show in a variety of ways, he’s starting his world travels, he finds the fortress or begins training at the fortress, his first day at the Daily Planet. But now they’ve done all that. The only thing left is for him to fly and put on the suit to become superman. Now what should’ve been an awesome moment that leaves fans cheering is just an inevitable conclusion to Clark’s retarded progress. :confused:

[colossus34]

The only thing left is for him to fly and put on the suit to become superman. Now what should’ve been an awesome moment that leaves fans cheering is just an inevitable conclusion to Clark’s retarded progress. :confused:

HARSH but true... honestly I do not think the producers ever invisioned the show lasting this long. It could have ended many seasons ago and seems to get greenlite for a new season near the end of the previous one so the writers are always left with a problem of how to end the season but leave "just one last thing" for next season and keep fans wanting to see more. The "seeing clark flying in tights" basically was always intended to be the last image/shot of the series from the beg. its just a shame its taking so long to get there becuase the series has lasted much longer than originally intended.

[Daybreak_st]

Yeah a little harsh but true. I hope they just make him fly in season 10 already.

[John Asperger]

Ummm, I must've missed something this season. Why don't all the Kandorians already have the powers under a yellow sun? How would their plan of turning (or filtering) the sun red thru a wacky tower give them powers? And why do they talk as if they used to have powers? I mean, being on Krypton, they shouldn't have had any.

Back to the recent episode... Maybe Clark should have wondered how Zod got on the roof.

...Yeah , but not only in S&S's origin in ACTION #1 , but well into the 1940s , the comics stayed with the " Krypton as a planet of super-people " concept !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:win k:
So , as far as tradition goes:biggrin:...

[Mat001]

He treated the clone DNA with blue kryptonite which then begs the question, if being treated with blue K gives you superpowers, it wasn't used on Krypton why?

It takes the powers away like Pre-Crisis Gold Kryptonite. That's why Dax-Ur had a bracelet made of it and Zor-El manipulated Alura in giving a ring to Clark.


I hope they just make him fly in season 10 already.

Not going to happen until the show ends.