Could Ultron ever become an Avenger?

[Arschloch]

I mean, if his intelligence continues to evolve, he should eventually outgrow his Oedipus Complex and need to destroy.

I think Millar or someone introduced the idea of a reformed Ultron.

[Jake V]

I mean, if his intelligence continues to evolve, he should eventually outgrow his Oedipus Complex and need to destroy.

I think Millar or someone introduced the idea of a reformed Ultron.

In current continuity, no. It is something I could see happening in a story set in the future.

[StoneGold]

Ultron 12 was a not-evil robot that sacrificed itself to save Pym.


But much like in the original story, much like in Young Avengers, you get a good version of a character with multiple versions, you're going to have the evil version chasing them down at some point.

[Gabe De Los Muertos]

What thread is he mocking? The Rulk one?

[marvell2100]

I mean, if his intelligence continues to evolve, he should eventually outgrow his Oedipus Complex and need to destroy.

I think Millar or someone introduced the idea of a reformed Ultron.

No. I don't care if he is an evolved, kinder, gentler Ultron. No. Let him go join the X-Men.

[Wildways]

Maybe Jocasta can give him a virus and hack into his system when they both eventually have sex in the last couple Mighty Avengers issues.

[Monty_Cristo]

it could happen. but he'd have to kill Pym, first.

[motteditor]

As others have noted, Mark 12 reformed. He could have joined the Avengers had he not sacrificed himself. If Millar is playing with the same concept, it's not new (not that that makes it bad; I try not to read Millar's stuff, so I'm not making a judgment).

[Babylon23]

I hope not. Removing Ultron would take away possibly the Avengers greatest villain. We don't really need more reformed villains out there. Enough of that goes on in the x-universe.

I liked the Mark 12 story but its not something i'd want to see as a permanent change.

[Global Honored]

If it's the hot chick Ultron and take away her genocidal tendencies...then maybe I'd buy it. She should probably smack Jocasta around though first thing to show her who is boss.

[KrullWall]

I like it, every other good guy seems to start out this way

[quisquis]

No, sexual tension between him and Pym would be unbearable

[bjtrdff]

It would seem pretty analagous to Danger joining the X-Men.

[Sighphi]

If he changes that angry screaming face he has now.

[Monty_Cristo]

No, sexual tension between him and Pym would be unbearable

i think he should be written as a comically rebellious teenager. but way over the top. like he'd constantly be saying, "Get off my back old man! I don't want your life!" before slamming the door to his infinite mansion room and turning his music up really loud. and he needs a leather jacket and Edward Furlong's voice.

[marvell2100]

No to Ultron! I don't care how many donuts and mocha lattes he brings to the meetings!

[meethraa]

If Hawkeye can do it, anyone can.

[Monty_Cristo]

No to Ultron! I don't care how many donuts and mocha lattes he brings to the meetings!

that's how Veranke got membership. that and her muffins.

[marvell2100]

that's how Veranke got membership. that and her muffins.

Muffins and pie according to some.

[Alan2099]

If Hawkeye can do it, anyone can.

Well, Ultron slaughtered an entire country. Hawkeye just attacked Ironman with a bow and arrow. There's a little bit of a difference.

[XPac]

As someone else mentioned, Ultron Mark 12 wasn't evil. He evoled into something better.

So I think it's a possible we could see a good Ultron, that could eventually become an Avenger. I don't think it'll ever happen, because it would cost us a perfectly good villain (and one can argue too many are already becoming goodguys).

[marvell2100]

Well, Ultron slaughtered an entire country. Hawkeye just attacked Ironman with a bow and arrow. There's a little bit of a difference.

Well he did second guess Cap a couple of times.

[Arkady]

Well he did second guess Cap a couple of times.

The monster!

[meethraa]

Well, Ultron slaughtered an entire country. Hawkeye just attacked Ironman with a bow and arrow. There's a little bit of a difference.
I meant that at least Ultron is potentially interesting.

[stelok]

Could Ultron ever become an Avenger? Yes he could. If Ultron 12 could be a good Ultron, then maybe the number 24 could as well.

[Alan2099]

Ulton 24? Didn't he get up into ther 500s during Ultron Unlimited?

[celticguy]

If Ultron 5 did not reform there is no hope.

[Shellhead]

It would be funny to see Ultron wearing one of those brown Avengers bomber jackets from the early '90s.

[celticguy]

Good Ultron can work with Clor and Ben the Clone to develop the

Experiment Avengers

[Gabe De Los Muertos]

Wait a minute, this isn't a mock thread?

[Alan2099]

Wait a minute, this isn't a mock thread?

I can't even tell anymore. :redface:

[Shellhead]

Ultron!
Ultron!!
ULTRON!!!

Avengers Assemble!!!

[celticguy]

Ultron!
Ultron!!
ULTRON!!!

Avengers some Assembly required!!!


fixed it for ya

[Kieran_Frost]

Previously someone has suggested a "white Vision" return, in a former Ultron body. I like that idea, we get back old-school Vision with a new school-twist... AND it is a different direction (meaning we don't "have to" revisit the Scarlet Witch issues). Kudos to whoever suggested that before!
:smile:

[Taskmaster]

I really don't see the argument that he can't be an Avenger because he's too great of a villain, that's Ultron's deal, he's a FREAKING ROBOT one version can be an Avenger while another version tries to kill him and the rest of the Avengers while yet another version just decides to work at the local Dairy Queen, there are no limits needed. The whole argument that villains shouldn't reform because then we "lose" good villains is weak, i'd much rather read about a once villainous characters road to redeption (whether they make it or fail) than just another cookie cutter story of them as the villain of the month

[nuclearman]

sure why not ??

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