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nepenthes
02-18-2010, 08:01 PM
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This is an issue I'd urge everyone to check out next week when you go in for your Batman & Robin. Actually you really need to just buy it as it won't read well off the shelf and you need to sit down with it.

This series may have got off to a bumpy start but with the end of the opening arc last issue I decided I'd continue with number 5, a fresh arc, and see if it comes through. And well it's not a new arc entirely, more like an epilogue, but it's very impressive.

Anyone who likes Grant Morrisons Batman VS The Devil angle should know that the twist in issue 4 developed Michael Lanes connection to that even further. Lane was an ex-soldier and policeman when his family was murdered by Satanic cultists, as you may know, and in the Deaths Dark Knight miniseries he began sleeping with his dead brothers widow, Jennifer. Both are crippled with grief over their loss and naturally find comfort in each other. Well last issue we learnt that

Jennifer was the one who killed their family, under some sort of hypnosis. She remembers the event and breaks down hysterically.

Issue 5 shows her coming to grips with that and Michael hinting to the larger connection. Where this will go remains to be seen.

We also see why Michaels old cop friend (his "Commisioner Gordon") Pete O'Farrel is such a good foil to Michael as they meet in the local Irish bar for drinks. Lane also has an interesting support cast in the Order of Purity and a headquarters in the "old white money" brownstone they've bequethed to him.

The real meat and bones of this issue though, which I won't go into too much, is in the Ragman and how he questions the familiar religious motivations in the Azrael concept. Ragman is of Jewish origins and the issue unfolds over the backdrop of Holy Land tensions in Gothams streets.

When Jennifer confronts Michael about the purpose of his crusade he says that he must be Azrael because it's "all I know how to do". Ragman pushes it even further and overturns his whole reason for being. With the contradictions and futility of the Azrael brand exposed it will be interesting to see where Nicieza goes with this series. Intruiging, and definitely unique among DC's hero titles.

Doug Side
02-19-2010, 05:04 AM
I like Ragman so I might jump on with this arc to see how it is going.

I Actually like Bachs sometimes, if the story can compliment his style. I do know a lot of people from my LCS were dropping the title based on the art alone. But Nicieza is a good writer, so I'll give it a shot.

Choppa
02-19-2010, 07:36 AM
I skipped the spoilers in your summary but I'm intrigued. I will check it out and come back.

Oskar Von Strange
02-19-2010, 10:03 AM
Picked it up on wednesday, but I haven't read it today, hopefully tonight I will.

I don't what is it, but at my LCS Azrael is selling like hot cakes. By the time I get there-around noon- theres like a couple of issues left.

FabianNicieza
02-19-2010, 10:50 AM
Maybe your LCS is only ordering 3 copies? :-)

-- fabian

FabianNicieza
02-19-2010, 10:51 AM
It's Matt's covers, baby. They're gold.

-- fabian

Gabe De Los Muertos
02-19-2010, 10:53 AM
Lane has such a cool costume.

Karl O'Neill
02-19-2010, 10:55 AM
I am a fan of Fabian's work.

So I will be getting this when it comes out in TPB.

The art is nice and grimy.

Gabe De Los Muertos
02-19-2010, 11:02 AM
Fabian's work with Tim was great. I hope DC gives him more Gotham work in the future.

burr787
02-19-2010, 11:12 AM
I read it, it was just alright. But I am thinking about dropping this book, since Fabrian has completely dropped the ball on Lane. I loved the mini because it showed Lane as a truly dark and tragic character. But this series has just taken away all of his darkness and made him pretty bland. Not only are his nephews and family pretty cool with him maiming people for a living but whenever he's out of costume he's just a normal, boring guy, not someone that I could see cutting someone's legs off or torturing Batman.

derekw13029
02-20-2010, 11:19 AM
I loved this issue, and love the book as a whole. I've always liked the Azrael character, JPV was a great character, and Lane has the pontential to be a real big player in the Batworld. I think the guys on this book are doing a good job of character development, and the aspect of Lane being a normal, boring guy after hacking off limbs is a good element, IMO. He's been wearing the Suit of Sorrows, killing people for God (which now he may be starting to question), who wouldn't be a little disconnected? The covers are great, the art is pretty good, and the story is great.

I dunno, I grew up with a religious upbringing, and maybe someone who has had personal questions of faith can dig a story like this more. Especially when you start looking at all the atrocities a lot of religions have done throughout the world. And the whole sort of cultist, secret organization of wild killers is intriguing.

Oskar Von Strange
02-20-2010, 03:00 PM
This book seems to get better and better....storywise of course.:tongue:

nepenthes
02-23-2010, 03:14 PM
I skipped the spoilers in your summary but I'm intrigued. I will check it out and come back.

I should have been more clear - the spoiler appeared last month in issue 4 and they talk about it some more in the Ragman issue. You might be confused if you don't already know the spoiler.



So I will be getting this when it comes out in TPB.

The art is nice and grimy.

It's weird that DC hasn't announced a trade yet, 3 issues in miniseries and 5 of the regualr is more than enough for one trade.

I like the art as well, especially the painted colours which have really looked nice over the last coupe issues.



I read it, it was just alright. But I am thinking about dropping this book, since Fabrian has completely dropped the ball on Lane. I loved the mini because it showed Lane as a truly dark and tragic character. But this series has just taken away all of his darkness and made him pretty bland. Not only are his nephews and family pretty cool with him maiming people for a living but whenever he's out of costume he's just a normal, boring guy, not someone that I could see cutting someone's legs off or torturing Batman.

I had the same reaction to the first couple of regular issues - Lane seemed just a little too talky and well adjusted. Also the inner voice in black captions barely appears anymore ("Kill him". ha ha). But I also see it as Lane simply moving on with his new life. He's a soldier, this IS almost normal for him. As well as the points derekw raised ^.

Sidian
02-25-2010, 01:46 PM
I plan on picking this issue up...Rag man sold it for me. I absolutely love the character from what ive seen of him so far which sadly isnt much.

however im a little torn on Azrael himself..the character intrigues me but i havent been blown away by what comics ive read that hes appeared in. Maybe this current series could change my mind...

how would you say this series stacks up against previous ones?

agentofthebat
02-26-2010, 01:17 PM
very good issue!

nepenthes
03-17-2010, 04:20 PM
Preview for Azrael 6 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4687) out today

I'm pretty interested in where this series is going. It's subtle and moody and the art seems to suit better with every issue.