CBR: Pak and Van Lente Crown a New "Prince of Power"

[CBR News]

Teen genius Amadeus Cho will soon have new responsibilities and a new ongoing series in My, and CBR spoke with co-writer Greg Pak about what to expect now that the former "Incredible Hercules" co-star has his own title.


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24812).

[Beast]

Yep. Called it. Gonna be about Amadeus Cho. So I'll be passing.

[drwho]

Interesting but dont see it lasting. Kind of cool if they have a big storyline worked out from the beginning. I cant see how Amadeus is interesting without Herc.

[Soundrave]

The supporting cast of "Prince of Power" is rounded out by several more major mythological figures. "We are going to get up close and personal with a couple of other major pantheons, who are going to get the Marvel treatment in a big, big way during the course of this storyline," Pak revealed. "For a long, long time, we've also wanted to delve into the Egyptian pantheon and we're finally getting the chance to do that in this storyline. We're also going to see some of the Hindu pantheon as well.


"One of the great themes of classic mythology has been the risk that mortal heroes take by encroaching on the turf of the gods," continues Pak. "We're about to see the impact of the biggest transgression a mortal can make upon multiple pantheons in the Marvel Universe. And the end of the story will bring an insane twist that no one's going to see coming that may split the heavens themselves."


http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/godsegpt1.jpg (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/godsegpt.htm)

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/hindug1.jpg (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/hindug.htm)

Sweet!! This is what I've been waiting for since the Marvel Mythology Handbook!! Bring on the Celtic gods, too!!

I wonder if Cho's brush with the Egyptian gods will bring him into conflict with Black Panther or Moon Knight?

Here's a better interview . . .

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/Prince-of-Power-Pak-Ven-Lente-Brown-100211.html

[The Cat]

Yep. Called it. Gonna be about Amadeus Cho. So I'll be passing.

Heh, heh. :biggrin:

I might give it a try. But a lot of the appeal for this book has disappeared!

[Hatut Zeraze]

Interesting but dont see it lasting. Kind of cool if they have a big storyline worked out from the beginning. I cant see how Amadeus is interesting without Herc.

Oh ye o little faith! Pak and Van Lente have been knocking this series out of the ballpark very consistently, including the solo Amadeus Cho story that alternated with the Thorcules story where he fought Pythagoras whatsisname.

Herc has been hands-down my favorite Marvel title of the last few years. These guys have their hooks in me and I'm signing up for the entire ride.

[Expletive Deleted]

Interesting but dont see it lasting.It's a mini-series.

[Soundrave]

Interesting but dont see it lasting. Kind of cool if they have a big storyline worked out from the beginning. I cant see how Amadeus is interesting without Herc.

Erm, it's not supposed to last . . .


"Prince of Power" is both a mini-series and an ongoing in that it's the next stage of the story that Pak and Van Lente began telling in "Incredible Hercules." "In your longboxes [Laughs], I would recommend following Incredible Hercules' #141 with 'Fall of An Avenger' #1 and #2 and then 'Prince of Power.' Those stories just follow one right after the other. So, it's a mini, but it's the next stage in this storyline and sets up the next huge incarnation of this book," Pak explained. "And when 'Prince of Power' ends, the story will continue in a huge way, but I can say no more about that.


Fred and I have made an extra special effort to make Prince of Power new-reader-friendly. Yes, we're paying off some major things we set up earlier in the series and launching an insane new era in the "Incredible Hercules" saga (just wait 'til you see how this baby ends!). But if you've been tempted to check the book out, this is a great place to start.

[ThunderWolf!!!]

Bummer.I want Herc.

Newsarama says Prince of Power it's an ongoing.

[Rahul]

Hindu Pantheon???


Well, this could be interesting in the good way, or in the bad way. I still remember that debacle over Lord Shiva. That was really offensive.....

[Soundrave]

Heh, heh. :biggrin:

I might give it a try. But a lot of the appeal for this book has disappeared!

Don't you guys read between the lines? This is a mere mini-series starring Cho that is more likely than not leading up to Herc's return to the title.


Van Lente: The tone is the same -- although it's a new #1 and a... minor shake up of the cast, PRINCE OF POWER is the natural continuation of the INCREDIBLE HERCULES saga under a different title.

And who knows? We may not be done evolving yet... (laughs evilly)

And from Marvel.com (http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.11267.the_heroic_age~colon~_prince_of _power) . . .


Though Amadeus will receive a massive amount of power in the coming months, he may need even more to complete a very personal mission.

"He's going to spend much of the series getting even more power, in order to rescue someone close to him," hints Van Lente.

[Beast]

Heh, heh. :biggrin:

I might give it a try. But a lot of the appeal for this book has disappeared!
I only picked it up for the Agents of Atlas back-ups.

But kinda started to like Herc. Cho doesn't interest me at all. Especially as the star.

[Beast]

Don't you guys read between the lines? This is a mere mini-series starring Cho that is more likely than not leading up to Herc's return to the title.
Don't care. I don't wanna read a book starring Cho. He was fine as Herc's sidekick.

[Soundrave]

Don't care. I don't wanna read a book starring Cho. He was fine as Herc's sidekick.

OK, your choice -- but to me it’s like saying you don’t want to see “Return of the Jedi” because your favorite character was Han Solo and now he’s frozen in carbonite.

[Beast]

OK, your choice -- but to me it’s like saying you don’t want to see “Return of the Jedi” because your favorite character was Han Solo and now he’s frozen in carbonite.
He was only frozen in carbonite for the beginning of the movie. And Han isn't everything.

[Soundrave]

He was only frozen in carbonite for the beginning of the movie. And Han isn't everything.

But how would you know that if you didn't see the movie?

[Triiiple Threat]

Don't care. I don't wanna read a book starring Cho. He was fine as Herc's sidekick.

Agreed, the duo is what made the Incredible Hercules great. Infact the issuses when Cho ran off by himself back to his hometown were quite boring.

[CMBMOOL]

Sweet. I can't wait for this title to come out. :tongue:

[Sentry76]

So both Ares & Hercules will be in Hades at the same time? Interesting :)


I'll check the this series out. I've enjoyed what Pak has been doing the past few years.

[protege]

(sigh) i guess i'll be picking this up, because of all the mythological elements at play here- but :
1) WHY did it haver to be Amadeus Cho, who i have no interest in apart from hercules?
2) WHY did they have to launch a new number #1 for the book, when I'm still smarting over the dark Avengers' debacle?. Honestly, why does Marvel ALWAYS have to introduce a new number #1 with their titles, when they KNOW it's going to be a finite series? the completist in me wants long complete runs, not shorter ones that are always broken up by relaunches that barely last two years. It's really getting tiresome for me.

[Beast]

(sigh) i guess i'll be picking this up, because of all the mythological elements at play here- but :
1) WHY did it haver to be Amadeus Cho, who i have no interest in apart from hercules?
2) WHY did they have to launch a new number #1 for the book, when I'm still smarting over the dark Avengers' debacle?. Honestly, why does Marvel ALWAYS have to introduce a new number #1 with their titles, when they KNOW it's going to be a finite series? the completist in me wants long complete runs, not shorter ones that are always broken up by relaunches that barely last two years. It's really getting tiresome for me.
Cause a new #1 means a bump in sales. Which considering Incredible Herc, is a good thing.

Also, the nature of the book is changing signifigantly. What with the death of Herc.

Frankly Incredible Herc shoudln't have continued Incredible Hulk's numbering either.

[Triiiple Threat]

So both Ares & Hercules will be in Hades at the same time? Interesting :)

Maybe something good will come out of this after all.

[Gene M.]

Reilly Brown has really stepped up his game since the last time I read something he drew.

[Soundrave]

Here's an interesting exchange from the Newsarama interview (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/Prince-of-Power-Pak-Ven-Lente-Brown-100211.html) . . .


Nrama: The book arrives as part of the “Heroic Age”. What’s your take on that title? Is the Marvel Universe experiencing renewed heroism, or is it an age of optimism after a particularly dark chapter? Does Cho at this point even view himself as a hero?

Van Lente: That's a good question. Like a lot of heroes, he didn't actually ask for this calling. But in many ways, despite his smarts, that makes him a better hero -- more able to relate to the people he's saying.

Bottom line is he is now what Hercules once was -- a Mythslayer, called to defend the world from the worst monsters of beasties and legends, which are now even more riled up than usual thanks to the approach of the Chaos King -- Amatsu-Mikaboshi, who destroyed Olympus and killed Zeus, whose return we've been foretelling since SECRET INVASION.

This being the Marvel Universe, of course, a lot of the "mythical" monsters are represented by seemingly science-based super villains who find their powers amped up to, well, legendary levels by this coming crisis ... and our book opens with a smack-down, drag-out between the Prince of Power and one such creature -- and we get to see how even though he now wields the adamantine mace, Amadeus Cho is very different sort of champion.

So it sounds like Earth's pantheons are fearing the imminent return of Mikaboshi, and as a result start maxing-out the powers of their Earth-bound benefactors for protection.

Who could we see with increased powers? My guesses are . . .

Black Panther (Bast of the Egyptian gods)
Moon Knight (Khonshu of the Egyptian gods)
Man-Ape (Ghekre of the African gods)
The Santerians (of the African/Vodu gods)
Brother Voodoo (of the African/Vodu gods)
Shaman & Talisman (of the Inuit gods)
Snowbird (of the Inuit gods)
Absorbing Man & Stonewall (Loki of the Norse gods)
The Wrecking Crew (Karnilla of the Norse gods)
Black Knight (Niamh of the Celtic gods)
Sebastian Druid (of the Celtic gods)
Red Wolf (Owayodata of the Native American gods)
Toltec (of the Aztec gods)
The Knights of Pendragon (of the Celtic gods)
Wildpride (of the Celtic gods)
Spider-Man (Anansi of the African gods)

Any others?

[Doc Goblin]

This actually looks pretty damn cool. I love the Herc/Cho dynamic duo, but I'll check this out too. Pak and Van Lente have done such a good job on Incredible Hercules that I've got to give them a chance here. And I don't believe that Herc is gone for good anyway. If this is the seventh arc of the story (...kinda funny since Cho is 7th smartest person), I expect Herc in for the 8th.

The new Cho design is awesome too.

[Joe Franklin]

Yep. Called it. Gonna be about Amadeus Cho. So I'll be passing.

Same here. :frown:

But, on a positive note, I'll be saving some money. One less comic book I'll be buying every month.

[Beast]

The new Cho design is awesome too.
It looks like he raided Pete Wisdom's closet.

[RolandJP]

Looking forward to the CHo mini. Lovin the Marvel Heroic Age..they are really taking chances.

I applaud breaking from the herd.

[Freakzeek]

Yes! Awesome , Cho for the win!

[Til]

I'll give it a chance, but I've never liked Cho. For me, Hercules was the main draw of Incredible Herc.

[motteditor]

A little disappointed that Herc's series is coming to an end, since I've enjoyed it so much and am not quite as sure about Amadeus being the titular character (and don't like Thor as much as Herc), but if PoP maintains the quality, I'll stick around.

Glad to see Reilly Brown's doing art. I really enjoyed his run on Cable & Deadpool, especially the little touches (like the things he'd write on DP's gun) that I think would probably work well in Herc/PoP.

Curious about the other mythologies they'll be playing with.

[The Black Guardian]

Yep. Called it. Gonna be about Amadeus Cho. So I'll be passing.
Me too. And I love Cho.

[invasionforce]

I suspect and hope that Hercules will not be gone for long. Hasn’t Marvel already released solicitations for a “Hercules” comic with the numbering beginning at 1? I don’t think Amadeus Cho can support his own title, but I wouldn’t mind if he remains Herc’s sidekick, especially if he gets superpowers, and can fight alongside Herc. Athena’s last champion had the Aegis, so why not give that weapon to Cho? Rick Jones finally got his own superpowers after decades. I hope they don’t make Cho wait as long.

[dkostus]

It looks like Cho's nemesis will be Agamenon from the Pantheon and Peter David's run on Incredible Hulk! Awesome!!!

[motteditor]

I don’t think Amadeus Cho can support his own title, but I wouldn’t mind if he remains Herc’s sidekick, especially if he gets superpowers, and can fight alongside Herc. Athena’s last champion had the Aegis, so why not give that weapon to Cho?

I didn't think Herc (or Nova, for that matter) could support his own title either, so why not Cho? If the book maintains the same type of buddy-tone, but with Cho as the sort of titular character (and Prince of Power is far less specific than just using Cho's name), is it really all that different?

[The Black Guardian]

I suspect and hope that Hercules will not be gone for long. Hasn’t Marvel already released solicitations for a “Hercules” comic with the numbering beginning at 1? I don’t think Amadeus Cho can support his own title, but I wouldn’t mind if he remains Herc’s sidekick, especially if he gets superpowers, and can fight alongside Herc. Athena’s last champion had the Aegis, so why not give that weapon to Cho? Rick Jones finally got his own superpowers after decades. I hope they don’t make Cho wait as long.
Yeah. I'm sure Herc will be back.

But no, the Hercules solicits are for the 2-issue mini-series Hercules: Fall of an Avenger.

[Soundrave]

I suspect and hope that Hercules will not be gone for long. Hasn’t Marvel already released solicitations for a “Hercules” comic with the numbering beginning at 1? I don’t think Amadeus Cho can support his own title, but I wouldn’t mind if he remains Herc’s sidekick, especially if he gets superpowers, and can fight alongside Herc. Athena’s last champion had the Aegis, so why not give that weapon to Cho? Rick Jones finally got his own superpowers after decades. I hope they don’t make Cho wait as long.

Despite all of the crying on this thread, the interviews pretty much state that this is only a mini-series and that Hercules will factor back into things once the mini is over (if not sooner).

[Beast]

Despite all of the crying on this thread, the interviews pretty much state that this is only a mini-series and that Hercules will factor back into things once the mini is over (if not sooner).
Who's crying? Just cause we don't like Cho Boy?

In other words, skip the mini and wait for the good book to start up again.

[Sanity or Madness?]

It looks like Cho's nemesis will be Agamenon from the Pantheon and Peter David's run on Incredible Hulk! Awesome!!!

Where'd you get that? And isn't Agamenon's dead (as of Hulk #425) and in Hel?

[The Black Guardian]

I didn't think Herc (or Nova, for that matter) could support his own title either, so why not Cho? If the book maintains the same type of buddy-tone, but with Cho as the sort of titular character (and Prince of Power is far less specific than just using Cho's name), is it really all that different?
The only problem: there's no buddy.

To be honest, Cho was only about 10% of the reason I was buying the Herc series. By himself, he's gods-awfully boring, and I still think he's one of the best characters to come from Marvel in the past decade.

And then I wonder if Marvel's doing a Captain Marvel/Shazam concept, which I really, really, really, really, really, really hope they're not, because there are few concepts in comics that I dislike more than that one.

[Soundrave]

Who's crying? Just cause we don't like Cho Boy?

In other words, skip the mini and wait for the good book to start up again.

Wow, man, don't get all defensive! The mini is advancing Herc's story. Who's to say that he doesn't factor into this mini? It sounds like Cho is on a mission to rescue him from Hades.

But why let logic get in the way of gut reactions based on little information?


Though Amadeus will receive a massive amount of power in the coming months, he may need even more to complete a very personal mission.

"He's going to spend much of the series getting even more power, in order to rescue someone close to him," hints Van Lente.

[Beast]

The only problem: there's no buddy.

To be honest, Cho was only about 10% of the reason I was buying the Herc series. By himself, he's gods-awfully boring, and I still think he's one of the best characters to come from Marvel in the past decade.

And then I wonder if Marvel's doing a Captain Marvel/Shazam concept, which I really, really, really, really, really, really hope they're not, because there are few concepts in comics that I dislike more than that one.
Maybe if they would have made it a buddy book with Cho and Phobos it would have been cool.

[Soundrave]

Where'd you get that? And isn't Agamenon's dead (as of Hulk #425) and in Hel?

From here . . .


"And we are going to introduce Amadeus' new arch-nemesis, who is someone that is formidable enough to match him on just about every level. Hulk fans take note! This is a character who comes from the pages of a classic run on 'Incredible Hulk' and has a very interesting link to the mythological milieu in which we're playing," Pak continued. "So starting rifling through your collections, because exactly who it is will be revealed fairly soon, but you can start guessing now. We're really excited about this character. This is a great character who is really a perfect match for this book. We've been looking for the right place to bring them in for some time now, and I think it's going to be a lot of fun to see this person and Amadeus go toe-to-toe."

[FlyingFox]

Its good to see that Thor isn't under one writer's thumb anymore. He's actually part of the Marvel universe again.

[protege]

It looks like Cho's nemesis will be Agamenon from the Pantheon and Peter David's run on Incredible Hulk! Awesome!!!

NOW they're bringing back the pantheon? talk about adding insult to injury.:mad:

[CMBMOOL]

YaY, I can't wait to see it come out. :redface:

[Arschloch]

Yay we get to see Amadeus Cho humiliating more gods. I can't wait...

[Riffleraffle]

It's amazing seeing Joe Franklin and Beast talk so much shit about this book when they also talk about how great Ultimates 3, Red Hulk, and Ultimatum was. It's like they live in backwards land.

[Expletive Deleted]

The only problem: there's no buddy.There is: Thor. It's mentioned in the interview.

[Soundrave]

It's amazing seeing Joe Franklin and Beast talk so much shit about this book when they also talk about how great Ultimates 3, Red Hulk, and Ultimatum was. It's like they live in backwards land.

Ah, backwards land . . . where Claremont is still relevant.

[tjarvis]

Yeah, I'm going to pass on this mini and wait for the Herc book to start up again. I read Hercules for Herc, not for Cho. I thought his side story issues were far more boring than the Herc ones from their recent split.

If I hear enough good things I might check it out in trades, but until then I guess I get to save a little money.

[HulkSmash!]

It looks like Cho's nemesis will be Agamenon from the Pantheon and Peter David's run on Incredible Hulk! Awesome!!!
This should be fun...I wasn't really too much a fan of Agamemnon (two m's, not together) or the Pantheon (nearly made me stop buying the Hulk back then), but by themselves, this shouldn't be too shabby. Definitely worth a look.

And Greg & Fred have been teasing the return of the Pantheon for a while now.

~G.

[Haquim]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agamemnon_%28comics%29

Well I'd say Agamemnon is more than likely as cho's archenemy...

[CaptainCanada]

So, five-six issues in the mini, presumably (four's the minimum, but this series usually does five issues per story, counting prologues).

If this is part seven of eight, can't wait to see how it plays out. This has been my favourite series pretty consistently since it debuted, and the stuff trailed here sounds excellent.

Amadeus working with Hebe is an interesting dynamic (she said earlier she'd be willing to be his surrogate mom).

And Reilly Brown on art is fantastic; after Ariel Olivetti was assigned the Fall of an Avenger mini, I was worried, because he is teh suck.

[Beast]

It's amazing seeing Joe Franklin and Beast talk so much shit about this book when they also talk about how great Ultimates 3, Red Hulk, and Ultimatum was. It's like they live in backwards land.
You might want to check your facts....

Ultimates 3 wasn't bad. And followed up some of the plot points of Ultimates 1 and 2.

Red Hulk? I have never even read that. Cause I hate the Hulk. Horrid character.

And Ultimatum was disappointing. Since the deaths were craptastic. It could have had potential.

Regardless, I would still rather read all three over a book focusing on Amadeus Cho.

[Beast]

Ah, backwards land . . . where Claremont is still relevant.
Ahh, troll land. Where people get pissy insulted cause you don't adore their favorite crap.

[HeckBoy]

Can't believe I'm actually interested about this. If you had told me a couple years ago that I'd actually care about Amadeus one day, I would've laughed in your face, but Herc's run has really gotten me to open up to Cho [though to be honest, he still works best when paired up w/ Herc, so we'll see what happens after the mini ends]. Also, don't know why, but I am really excited that Amadeus gets to use Herc's mace.

[Soundrave]

Ahh, troll land. Where people get pissy insulted cause you don't adore their favorite crap.

It's not about adoring anyone's crap. It's about trashing a book that you haven't even read yet . . . and from the hints dropped in the interviews, it seems that your stated reasons for not liking the book are non-existent.

I'm not "pissy insulted" at all -- I'm just trying to counter the tidal wave of misinformed opinions with quotes from the interviews that prove those opinions invalid.

[Beast]

It's not about adoring anyone's crap. It's about trashing a book that you haven't even read yet . . . and from the hints dropped in the interviews, it seems that your stated reasons for not liking the book are non-existent.

I'm not "pissy insulted" at all -- I'm just trying to counter the tidal wave of misinformed opinions with quotes from the interviews that prove those opinions invalid.
Yes, cause that's what you've done in your post. Wait, you didn't, you decided to take potshots.

Me and others don't like Amadeus Cho. Deal with it. Those who were reading more for Herc, will prolly wait for the series to return.

[Soundrave]

Yes, cause that's what you've done in your post. Wait, you didn't, you decided to take potshots.

Me and others don't like Amadeus Cho. Deal with it. Those who were reading more for Herc, will prolly wait for the series to return.

Bringing Claremont into this crossed the line?

Dude, I'm not crazy about Cho either. But although Cho takes center stage, it's still about Hercules.

[Beast]

Bringing Claremont into this crossed the line?

Dude, I'm not crazy about Cho either. But although Cho takes center stage, it's still about Hercules.
Cause you've read the solicit and the book already. Trust me, it's all about Cho.

[Peter F.]

In other words, skip the mini and wait for the good book to start up again.

And what if low sales on this mini means that they decide not to start a new Hercules book once the mini ends?

[Lot 49]

Actually, I'm looking forward to this very much...I think that Cho has matured to a point where he doesn't require a sidekick like Hercules anymore...

Personally, I think it's great that in a medium where the most popular characters are relatively static, Marvel is promoting a book where the main character can actually change and grow...

And of course Hercules will eventually be back...but, it's great to see Cho take over the spotlight once again, as he did during the excellent "Secret Origin of Mastermind Excello" arc in Incredible Herc....

And Agamemnon back? Again, awesome...

[Freakzeek]

...........

[Freakzeek]

"Gotta love the people complaining.

You guys do realize that nobody is forcing you to read it either?

tis silly to act like Marvel is doing something wrong by publishing a book you don't like." - Beast , Atlas thread

the pure irony of this statement

[Scavenger]

It looks like Cho's nemesis will be Agamenon from the Pantheon and Peter David's run on Incredible Hulk! Awesome!!!

Yeah..my immediate thought as well.

[Beast]

"Gotta love the people complaining.

You guys do realize that nobody is forcing you to read it either?

tis silly to act like Marvel is doing something wrong by publishing a book you don't like." - Beast , Atlas thread

the pure irony of this statement
Who's complaining. I'm simply saying I have no interest in reading a book about Cho.

Now if it was Hercules and Cho, I would probably stick around. Since IH was kinda fun.

But I don't like Cho, and don't feel like dropping $3.99 for 4 issues featuring him.

More than happy that other people are going to enjoy it. Just not for me.

I'm not crying that Marvel is publishing it. Which is the point of that quote you've taken out of context.

[Freakzeek]

I only picked it up for the Agents of Atlas back-ups.

But kinda started to like Herc. Cho doesn't interest me at all. Especially as the star.


Don't care. I don't wanna read a book starring Cho. He was fine as Herc's sidekick.


Who's crying? Just cause we don't like Cho Boy?

In other words, skip the mini and wait for the good book to start up again.


Maybe if they would have made it a buddy book with Cho and Phobos it would have been cool.


You might want to check your facts....

Ultimates 3 wasn't bad. And followed up some of the plot points of Ultimates 1 and 2.

Red Hulk? I have never even read that. Cause I hate the Hulk. Horrid character.

And Ultimatum was disappointing. Since the deaths were craptastic. It could have had potential.

Regardless, I would still rather read all three over a book focusing on Amadeus Cho.


Ahh, troll land. Where people get pissy insulted cause you don't adore their favorite crap.


Yes, cause that's what you've done in your post. Wait, you didn't, you decided to take potshots.

Me and others don't like Amadeus Cho. Deal with it. Those who were reading more for Herc, will prolly wait for the series to return.


Cause you've read the solicit and the book already. Trust me, it's all about Cho.


Who's complaining. I'm simply saying I have no interest in reading a book about Cho.

Now if it was Hercules and Cho, I would probably stick around. Since IH was kinda fun.

But I don't like Cho, and don't feel like dropping $3.99 for 4 issues featuring him.

More than happy that other people are going to enjoy it. Just not for me.

I'm not crying that Marvel is publishing it. Which is the point of that quote you've taken out of context.

WE GET IT BRO, you won't buy the book, don't need 5 pages of you saying it. I don't like S.W.O.R.D. because of Beast, but you don't see me going into a Sword thread saying it a hundred times

[Beast]

WE GET IT BRO, you won't buy the book, don't need 5 pages of you saying it. I don't like S.W.O.R.D. because of Beast, but you don't see me going into a Sword thread saying it a hundred times
And again. Where did I ever complain that Marvel is publishing it?

We get it Bro. You can't stand someone having an opinion that isn't yours.

This is a Discussion Forum, in case you missed that. And I'm discussing the announcement.

[Supermutant2099]

Why go in this dumb direction? Why ruin a great book? Marvel is lucky it is mini-series because it wouldn't last more then 5 issues. Marvel is really is bad shape when they do things like this.

[Beast]

Why go in this dumb direction? Why ruin a great book? Marvel is lucky it is mini-series because it wouldn't last more then 5 issues. Marvel is really is bad shape when they do things like this.
I can see it as an attempt to try to grow the fan interest in Hercules' return when the series restarts after these 4 issues.

But if so, doing it with Amadeus Cho would be like using Bat-Mite to hype Batman's return.

[Supermutant2099]

LOL. That is true but if they really killed off Herc then it's really just latest in the now boring dying and coming back. Death is such just a joke in most comic but the never bring back some real good minor characters.

[The Black Guardian]

There is: Thor. It's mentioned in the interview.
The interview also alludes to them not being buddies.

[Soundrave]

The interview also alludes to them not being buddies.

Well, if we're splitting hairs, Herc and Cho haven't been buddies since Incredible Hercules #131 -- 10 issues ago.

[John Zaleski]

You might want to check your facts....

Ultimates 3 wasn't bad. And followed up some of the plot points of Ultimates 1 and 2.



Ultimates 3 was the biggest piece of crap ever. I even found it was than Ultimatum. This book was a steaming pile of crap that completely ruined characters.

Having said that I'm probably gonna try this book out. I was thinking about getting into Hercules but I came a little late to the party. Should be picking this up though.

[Beast]

Ultimates 3 was in no way, shape, or form worse than Ultimatum.

None of the characters outside of Pyro were any more ruined than they were by Millar from the start.

[Fatguy]

It's difficult to describe just how little I want to read an Amadeus Cho comic.

[powbiffbang]

I disagree with all of the anti-Cho sentiment in this thread. I've found that character fascinating because as a genius he's given the authors a platform to deal with all sorts of intriguing concepts from astrophysics to our need for myths to a varied handful of different philosophical conundrums--and it's been funny along the way. It's just about as good as a super-hero comic can get.

Maybe it's too good for too many?

[Methalius]

I'll give it a chance. I agree with some thought that Cho is really only interesting because of his friendship with Herc. I think Cho on his own will end up being underwhelming. While I enjoyed his solo story in Incredible Hercules I likely won't be interested in a solo Cho book but I'll give it a shot before I decide.

[Nite-Wing]

Cho without Hercules is like Gilbert without Sullivan.
Marvel is taking a big risk with Cho but then again having Herc take over The Hulk's series in the first place was a big risk.

[Venom Melendez]

Agreed, the duo is what made the Incredible Hercules great. .

No, it was the ritters that made the book great.

It's still Pak and Van Lente, it's still great. Plus, it great that Cho has a chance to step out on his own.