Jean Grey Appreciation II [Archive] - Page 21

The_Greatest_Username

03-26-2011, 08:33 PM

The homecoming issue is X-Men 70. Jean and Scott leave in 71. They were supposed to come back a couple issues later and Seagle/Bachalo would have written the more classic team with Cyclops, Phoenix, Wolverine, Storm, Rogue and, Nightcrawler in Uncanny X-Men. Kelly/Pacheco would have had Beast, Marrow, Maggot, Cecilia Reyes, and some of the newer X-Men in their title. Sadly editorial got in the way.

I really wish they've could've continued. :frown:

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 08:34 PM

Is that Jean or just a redhead who has a costume really similar to Jean's?

What is AOX Jean doing around? I'm not really following up on that story. Are the actual canonical characters experiencing what is going on in AOX or is it just another alternate reality?

No it really is Jean in her Marvel Girl suit. Marvel did a series of crossovers with Image in the late 90s. Jean was featured in all 3 out of the 4.

The Silver Age one had gorgeous art by Jim Lee and Jean in her Marvel Girl duds. The Modern Age had her as Phoenix, drawn fabulously by Adam Hughes. It was awesome. The Dark Age was set in the future, drawn by Brett Booth.

The theories are still out on what AOX really is.

fortyseven

03-26-2011, 08:39 PM

Thanks Bart Simpson! You are awesome!

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 08:40 PM

I agree. I've openly stated that I believe Jean would pull up her roots from the X-Men at this point. I don't see her playing lapdog to any of their actions right now. She'd either make her own team (X-Factor's not associated with the X-Men right now either) or join another hero team (like Avengers).

Ick, is that like Ruby Summers?

She and Cap WOULD make a good couple.

Mmmm. HOT Can we get more of these images in?

Here's one:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/jlee13.jpg

Here's one from the modern age one with Adam Hughes:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/wildc61.jpg

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 08:44 PM

Thanks Bart Simpson! You are awesome!

No prob. :biggrin:

ButterRum

03-26-2011, 08:46 PM

here's one:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/jlee13.jpg

I _AM_ _SHIPPING_ _THEM_ _VERY_ _HARD_ RIGHT_ NOW! (It lol, lowercased my caps)

Jim Lee draws a great Jean.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 08:49 PM

I _AM_ _SHIPPING_ _THEM_ _VERY_ _HARD_ RIGHT_ NOW! (It lol, lowercased my caps)

Jim Lee draws a great Jean.

Grifter and Jean would be awesome.
They definitely had chemistry....too bad he's owned by DC. It made me think Grifter is very similar to Gambit. Hmmmm

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 08:53 PM

42n8s1

03-26-2011, 08:59 PM

Jean Grey is da sex.
(2nd)

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:00 PM

Jean Grey is da sex.
(2nd)

Agreed. Thanks for showing da appreciation. :biggrin:

The Thunderbird

03-26-2011, 09:00 PM

I love the way Pacheco and Jim Lee draws Jean.

I think Jean will be coming back after they deal with the Hope/Phoenix plot within the next year or two.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:02 PM

From the previous thread we were discussing the hotness that is Jean Grey and Grifter.

He proclaims she's the hottest redhead he's ever seen, he makes her weak in the knees. They have chemistry. The only thing separating them is a publishing company. Bah!

Check it:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/Marvel%20Girl/24.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/Marvel%20Girl/25.jpg

JeanGreyForever

03-26-2011, 09:02 PM

Hail to the White Phoenix of the Crown!

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:04 PM

This thread has over 5000 posts.

To be continued here:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=363213

The Thunderbird

03-26-2011, 09:09 PM

Phoenix Egg

03-26-2011, 09:09 PM

Jean Grey, the original Marvel Girl and the one true Phoenix.

Phoenix Egg

03-26-2011, 09:14 PM

This thread has over 5000 posts.

To be continued here:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=363213

You should have waited until it was over nine thousaaaaand!

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:18 PM

Jean Grey, the original Marvel Girl and the one true Phoenix.

I see you're a Jean/Logan shipper. I like them too. But I will convert you to Jean/Grifter, mark my words. :biggrin:

ButterRum

03-26-2011, 09:18 PM

I see you're a Jean/Logan shipper. I like them too. But I will convert you to Jean/Grifter, mark my words. :biggrin:

Jean/Grifter is OTP now. I didn't see them kiss in the first issue of Wildcats/X-Men Silver Age. Are there anymore?

Phoenix Egg

03-26-2011, 09:22 PM

I see you're a Jean/Logan shipper. I like them too. But I will convert you to Jean/Grifter, mark my words. :biggrin:

Jean/Logan is destiny. They're like the heroes from Hancock. Who else have they got?

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:27 PM

Jean/Grifter is OTP now. I didn't see them kiss in the first issue of Wildcats/X-Men Silver Age. Are there anymore?

They did. It happens right after this page:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/jlee13.jpg leads to:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/lee13.jpg

ButterRum

03-26-2011, 09:28 PM

What'd she say afterwards?

Vivica Kang

03-26-2011, 09:29 PM

It feels soo refreshing!! Jean Grey your numero uno!

zulu

03-26-2011, 09:29 PM

What a beautiful pair. Alex or Warren can be body doubles for this dude.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:29 PM

Jean/Logan is destiny. They're like the heroes from Hancock. Who else have they got?

I'm still a Jean/Grifter shipper, though Logan is more reasonable. haha. What are your favorite Jean/Logan issues Phoenix Egg?

ZehnWaters

03-26-2011, 09:31 PM

The other thread was getting a little big. Here's the new one for our favorite redhead!

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/x_men_evolution_jean_grey_by_paulrenaud-d3a7ict-1.jpg

From the other thread:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=305112

Hot, hot, hot. I looove this pic of Jeannie. The one of her New X-Men is awesome and strong.

From the previous thread we were discussing the hotness that is Jean Grey and Grifter.

He proclaims she's the hottest redhead he's ever seen, he makes her weak in the knees. They have chemistry. The only thing separating them is a publishing company. Bah!

Check it:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/Marvel%20Girl/24.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/Marvel%20Girl/25.jpg

Oooooh, he's like a less grumpy Wolvie. I like.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/NosDos/90%20Jim%20Lee%20Jean%20Grey/pachecophoenix1.jpg

Wait, I have this issue! And I remember this era! I loooooved the artwork from this era.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:32 PM

What'd she say afterwards?

It's been a while since I read it, but if I remember correctly, Jean pulls away and tells Grifter that she has someone---Cyclops. Grifter says he's a lucky guy.

42n8s1

03-26-2011, 09:34 PM

Angie Everheart should have played JG on the big screen.

http://www.mastemag.com/wallpapers/data/media/85/Angie-Everhart-3.JPG

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:34 PM

Angie Everheart should have played JG on the big screen.

http://www.mastemag.com/wallpapers/data/media/85/Angie-Everhart-3.JPG

She definitely has the looks, but can she act?

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:36 PM

Hot, hot, hot. I looove this pic of Jeannie. The one of her New X-Men is awesome and strong.

Oooooh, he's like a less grumpy Wolvie. I like.

Wait, I have this issue! And I remember this era! I loooooved the artwork from this era.

I thought he's more like a less sleazy version of Gambit myself. Grifter has Warren's looks, Gambit's charm, and Wolverine's ruggedness. Damn, Jean shouldn't have let him go!!:biggrin:

I liked that era too. Pacheco draws a lovely Jean Grey.

What a beautiful pair. Alex or Warren can be body doubles for this dude.

Yep yep. I wrote something similar.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:38 PM

It feels soo refreshing!! Jean Grey your numero uno!

It is! Like a phoenix reborn! :tongue: :biggrin:

The_Greatest_Username

03-26-2011, 09:50 PM

I'm still a Jean/Scott shipper, but I'll take Jean/Grifter over Jean/Logan any day :wink:

ButterRum

03-26-2011, 09:54 PM

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 09:57 PM

When Jean comes back, she needs to start dating again...and I don't mean a serious, long-term relationship (unless she finds someone she really likes). There's plenty of men to go around. She was held back in the dating field with Cyclops, so she should start living as a single and just freely date whomever she wants. That would be fun.

I definitely agree there. Cyclops was allowed to move on, so should Jean. It would be interesting to see the dynamic if they are on the same team, since they've sort of always been together.

I also wouldn't mind if Jean was single (no dating) for a while too.

I'm still a Jean/Scott shipper, but I'll take Jean/Grifter over Jean/Logan any day :wink:

I just can't see them together anymore. I feel they've grown past that. Scott/Emma make a fine pairing. And it wouldn't be good for Jean's character to go back to him after all that transpired.

The_Greatest_Username

03-26-2011, 10:01 PM

I also wouldn't mind if Jean was single (no dating) for a while too.
I think Jean should be single for a while once she gets back. Like Scott, Jean's never really been single and I think it would be nice to see how she acts as a character.

I just can't see them together anymore. I feel they've grown past that. Scott/Emma make a fine pairing. And it wouldn't be good for Jean's character to go back to him after all that transpired.
I think they could be worked back together over the course of a few years. With the right story telling.

ButterRum

03-26-2011, 10:08 PM

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:11 PM

Would it be in-character for Scott and Jean to accidentally consummate in the heat of the moment (while he was still with Emma)? It would just be a one time thing, of course, with either one of them deciding it wasn't working out or was awkward. I could see something like that happening, maybe.

Jean should definitely be single. All I meant was just casually dating around for the free food and other stuff. :wink:

Well Scott has done it before. Jean has given into her passions too on occasion. They're human after all. Would they go all the way? Dunno. lol But it would be awkward indeed. haha

Free food and other stuff...is always a good reason to go out on dates. Jean should look outside the X-Men since between them all, it's all sloppy seconds and thirds by now. lol

The_Greatest_Username

03-26-2011, 10:12 PM

Would it be in-character for Scott and Jean to accidentally consummate in the heat of the moment (while he was still with Emma)? It would just be a one time thing, of course, with either one of them deciding it wasn't working out or was awkward. I could see something like that happening, maybe.
I wonder which writer would be brave enough to write that scenerio.

Jean should definitely be single. All I meant was just casually dating around for the free food and other stuff. :wink:
Yeah, I can see Jean getting some random guy to buy her some drinks at a bar.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:14 PM

I think Jean should be single for a while once she gets back. Like Scott, Jean's never really been single and I think it would be nice to see how she acts as a character.

I think they could be worked back together over the course of a few years. With the right story telling.

Maybe over the course of several long years. It would have to be written really well though. I don't want Cyke to just drop Emma, and I don't want Jean to just go back to him. If it has to happen let it natural, let Emma/Scott grow apart on their own, let Jean play the field first for a while with others or be single and independent.

The_Greatest_Username

03-26-2011, 10:19 PM

Maybe over the course of several long years. It would have to be written really well though. I don't want Cyke to just drop Emma, and I don't want Jean to just go back to him. If it has to happen let it natural, let Emma/Scott grow apart on their own, let Jean play the field first.

If I were writing it (Yeah like that's gonna happen), I would probably have Cyke and Jean on the same team to create tension but not so much of a "love triangle", eventually Emma would get over her jealousy. After a few years Scott and Emma have some big disagreement involving the X-Men/mutants. After a while they fall out of love. A few years later (while Scott gets some time to be single for once) Jean and Scott have some big long conversation and they end up back together. It would be like one of the Nicholas Sparks books :tongue:

ButterRum

03-26-2011, 10:20 PM

I wonder which writer would be brave enough to write that scenerio.

It would be ironic if Scott cheated on Emma over Jean. LOL. I'd love to see that written, though. The buildup would have to be really slow and when it does happen, it would just be a one time thing. Scott would still go back to being with Emma (and not telling her, of course) and Jean would go back to doing whatever.

The_Greatest_Username

03-26-2011, 10:22 PM

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:22 PM

If I were writing it (Yeah like that's gonna happen), I would probably have Cyke and Jean on the same team to create tension but not so much of a "love triangle", eventually Emma would get over her jealousy. After a few years Scott and Emma have some big disagreement involving the X-Men/mutants. After a while they fall out of love. A few years later (while Scott gets some time to be single for once) Jean and Scott have some big long conversation and they end up back together. It would be like one of the Nicholas Sparks books :tongue:

That sounds like a decent pace for things.
lol@ it being like a Nicholas Sparks book.

The_Greatest_Username

03-26-2011, 10:24 PM

lol@ it being like a Nicholas Sparks book.
I had the Notebook in mind the whole time I was typing it :wink:

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:26 PM

It would be ironic if Scott cheated on Emma over Jean. LOL. I'd love to see that written, though. The buildup would have to be really slow and when it does happen, it would just be a one time thing. Scott would still go back to being with Emma (and not telling her, of course) and Jean would go back to doing whatever.

Jean doing whatever being Grifter right? or Captain America?...haha.

It would be ironic, but it would be interesting to see Jean, initially at least, kind of wanting to give Emma a taste of her own medicine, but realizing her mistake. She feels guilty about it for a while. Emma doesn't find out about it, Jean eventually tells her straight to her face. It sort of works with the rivalry and mutual respect they have for each other.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:26 PM

I had the Notebook in mind the whole time I was typing it :wink:

Thank gawd, it wasn't Last Song. LOL

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:28 PM

what the heck why are we back in the old thread, I thought it was going to be a new one at 5000 to make it easier on the servers?

zulu

03-26-2011, 10:29 PM

what the heck why are we back in the old thread, I thought it was going to be a new one at 5000 to make it easier on the servers?

They get touchy if you create it yourself. They want to do the honors. :tongue:

fortyseven

03-26-2011, 10:32 PM

I think JAM mentioned something about having one Jean thread and one Phoenix thread.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:34 PM

They get touchy if you create it yourself. They want to do the honors. :tongue:

Didn't know that. Saw the Storm one was created by a poster.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:35 PM

I think JAM mentioned something about having one Jean thread and one Phoenix thread.

I see....but Jean's codename is Phoenix. Maybe the other thread should be called Phoenix force or Other phoenixes. lol

Why couldn't the Jean appreciation thread have her real name and her code name like Storm's?

Thanks for the heads up through 47. :biggrin:

The Thunderbird

03-26-2011, 10:39 PM

I see....but Jean's codename is Phoenix. Maybe the other thread should be called Phoenix force or Other phoenixes. lol

Why couldn't the Jean appreciation thread have her real name and her code name like Storm's?

Thanks for the heads up through 47. :biggrin:

I think the thread was referring to her code name and not the force too. The PF itself as a character is no more popular than Loa or X-Cutioner lol.

Phoenix Egg

03-26-2011, 10:44 PM

I think JAM mentioned something about having one Jean thread and one Phoenix thread.

But Jean is Phoenix! No one else is using that codename right now, regardless of where you stand on the bird issue.

Will the Phoenix thread be for all the clones and alternate reality kids?

ZehnWaters

03-26-2011, 10:44 PM

When Jean comes back, she needs to start dating again...and I don't mean a serious, long-term relationship (unless she finds someone she really likes). There's plenty of men to go around. She was held back in the dating field with Cyclops, so she should start living as a single and just freely date whomever she wants. That would be fun. Heck, she and Wolvie can finally have at it with no guilt.

Mmhmm. Single wouldn't be bad. But I still like that Captain America pairing that came up in the last thread. Jean could go back to being a wholesome Good Girl and she and Cap could be America's Sweethearts! Jean could join the Avengers. It'd be WAY better than her returning to X-Men. She could find a new group dynamic and I think everyone would feel less inclined to fall into a plotline involving Phoenix.

But that's just me.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:45 PM

I think the thread was referring to her code name and not the force too. The PF itself as a character is no more popular than Loa or X-Cutioner lol.

Unless the other one is called Phoenix force or something, we will have technically have 2 threads to appreciate Jean in.

Jean's official Marvel bio used Phoenix as her codename.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:46 PM

But Jean is Phoenix! No one else is using that codename right now, regardless of where you stand on the bird issue.

Will the Phoenix thread be for all the clones and alternate reality kids?

I like Jean Grey/Phoenix. And then the other....Phoenix Force and other users/phoenixes or something to that effect

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:47 PM

Mmhmm. Single wouldn't be bad. But I still like that Captain America pairing that came up in the last thread. Jean could go back to being a wholesome Good Girl and she and Cap could be America's Sweethearts! Jean could join the Avengers. It'd be WAY better than her returning to X-Men. She could find a new group dynamic and I think everyone would feel less inclined to fall into a plotline involving Phoenix.

But that's just me.

+100000. I want to see Jean on the Avengers and start an all new, all different chapter of her life.

ButterRum

03-26-2011, 10:47 PM

Jean doing whatever being Grifter right? or Captain America?...haha.

It would be ironic, but it would be interesting to see Jean, initially at least, kind of wanting to give Emma a taste of her own medicine, but realizing her mistake. She feels guilty about it for a while. Emma doesn't find out about it, Jean eventually tells her straight to her face. It sort of works with the rivalry and mutual respect they have for each other.

The whole Scott/Jean thing I was talking about could totally happen, and it's not unrealistic for old couples to get back together for a one time thing like that.

I'd imagine Scott would want to continue, but Jean is the one who stops it because it's awkward and wouldn't feel right to her.

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 10:50 PM

The whole Scott/Jean thing I was talking about could totally happen, and it's not unrealistic for old couples to get back together for a one time thing like that.

I'd imagine Scott would want to continue, but Jean is the one who stops it because it's awkward and wouldn't feel right to her.

I agree I could see it happen too, I was just expanding on it and giving Jean some interesting motivation for why it happened and where to go with it.

ButterRum

03-26-2011, 10:56 PM

I agree I could see it happen too, I was just expanding on it and giving Jean some interesting motivation for why it happened and where to go with it.

I REALLY want this to happen now! Emma/Scott have always been my OTP and still are, but I can't get enough of the angst that comes with Scott/Jean!

Bart Simpson

03-26-2011, 11:46 PM

I REALLY want this to happen now! Emma/Scott have always been my OTP and still are, but I can't get enough of the angst that comes with Scott/Jean!

We need Jean back first. Though I want a writer who knows what they're doing.

nightw1ng

03-27-2011, 12:16 AM

when Jean comes back, I'd like Scott completely out of the picture. i loved Jean and Emma as frenemies and their interaction is much more refreshing than the played out love triangle drama.

MarvelMaster616

03-27-2011, 05:04 AM

I REALLY want this to happen now! Emma/Scott have always been my OTP and still are, but I can't get enough of the angst that comes with Scott/Jean!

when Jean comes back, I'd like Scott completely out of the picture. i loved Jean and Emma as frenemies and their interaction is much more refreshing than the played out love triangle drama.

I'm not saying that Cyclops and Jean Grey should get back together the moment she returns, whenever that may be. However, you can't expect them to stay away from each other with all the history they've shared. They're the X-men's oldest and most iconic couple. They're one of the few Marvel pairings that have gotten married and made it work for a long period of time. That sort of thing can't be glossed over unless you One More Day it. And I don't think the X-books need that. :wink:

The_Greatest_Username

03-27-2011, 06:23 AM

I think JAM mentioned something about having one Jean thread and one Phoenix thread.

Well I know which one I'm posting on.

Thank gawd, it wasn't Last Song. LOL

:biggrin:

I REALLY want this to happen now! Emma/Scott have always been my OTP and still are, but I can't get enough of the angst that comes with Scott/Jean!
Yes, angst is good and it helps to fuel the X-Books.
I would've like the Scott/Jean/Emma dynamic more if it weren't for the conclusion.

JeanGreyForever

03-27-2011, 07:08 AM

Once Jean comes back I'd prefer for them not to get back together instantly. Let Scott break up with Emma as he debates over who he loves more. Let him found out about Here Comes Tommorrow (not from Jean) and then finally realize that Jean was always in his heart.

vitruvian

03-27-2011, 07:33 AM

It would be ironic if Scott cheated on Emma over Jean. LOL. I'd love to see that written, though. The buildup would have to be really slow and when it does happen, it would just be a one time thing. Scott would still go back to being with Emma (and not telling her, of course) and Jean would go back to doing whatever.

Nah, he'd kick over Emma in a hot minute. Remember what happened with his wife and infant son the minute Jean came back that other time.

And as bad as Maddy Pryor became, consider that Emma was a villain to begin with. Who now knows all the X-Men's secrets.

SugarMan

03-27-2011, 08:51 AM

Jean won't get back with Scott. Even before she was "killed", Scott had made his decision, and the two were well on their way to breaking up anyway. But other than that, although she still has connections to her human side, she is way beyond humanity. She has "Phoenix work" to do. (Then again, Phoenix loves to experience emotions, so who knows).