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You know them. You joke about them. Every show they appear on is doomed. If it's a new project it won't last a full season; while established shows tank within weeks of them showing up.
Ted McGinley is their leader. Eric Balfour is one of them. So is Lindsay Price. One could make a case that Lucy Liu , Blair Underwood and Alfre Woodard are among their ranks, while on another thread dupont2005 IS making the case for Summer Glau: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=305065
They are the Showkillers Defend them, condemn them, identify them.
Jared
01-22-2010, 02:54 PM
http://www.wchstv.com/abc/blindjustice/renasofer.jpg
Rena Sofer. She's fine actress, with striking good looks. But when there's a new series and she's a regular, I know no to get attached, because it won't last. IIRC, she took over as female lead on Just Shoot Me before it ended.
She's fine as a guest star and for limited stints. She did happen to be in the worst season of 24, but her character wasn't a problem.
Interesting factoid, she was in the pilot for Charmed, but was replaced by Holly Marie Combs (or maybe it was Doherty) when the series aired.
StoneGold
01-22-2010, 03:53 PM
Yeah, McGinley is such a show killer, Married with Children only lasted six seasons after he joined the cast! Hell, Happy Days lasted four seasons after he joined, even.
Jared
01-22-2010, 04:32 PM
Yeah, McGinley is such a show killer, Married with Children only lasted six seasons after he joined the cast! Hell, Happy Days lasted four seasons after he joined, even.
Never understood how he got that rep. Did he join Happy Days in the infamous "Shark Jumping" season?
StoneGold
01-22-2010, 04:38 PM
Never understood how he got that rep. Did he join Happy Days in the infamous "Shark Jumping" season?
Way, way after. Basically, he got hired to replace Ritchie (although the show lasted for a good number of years), he came on Love Boat in like its 8th season, and was on Dynasty late in its run, although it went on for a bit even after he left. It's more of a quality issue with McGinley than an actual show kill thing, but it's like the guy who created JTS said - it has nothing to do with McGinley, he's just the guy producers hired for a while there after their shows had tanked creatively because he was a pretty face.
That said, it is easily arguable that Married With Children improved after his addition.
Maybe it's because of the sheer number of doomed shows that Ted McGinley was on, and people would still see him and go "Hey, it's that bastard child from Happy Days!" which would lead to the association.
Anyway, nobody's in on the joke more than McGinley himself. Whenever he gets a patron saint award of failed shows or something like that, he always shows up to accept it in good nature with that trademark grin of his, perhaps knowing full well that he's got shows like Married with Children and Hope and Faith under his belt. IIRC, he even poked fun at his own show-killer rep on Married with Children, when he called Al the Captain from Love Boat.
Younger actors would kill to have his resume.
marshal99
01-22-2010, 06:10 PM
You know them. You joke about them. Every show they appear on is doomed. If it's a new project it won't last a full season; while established shows tank within weeks of them showing up.
Ted McGinley is their leader. Eric Balfour is one of them. So is Lindsay Price. One could make a case that Lucy Liu , Blair Underwood and Alfre Woodard are among their ranks, while on another thread dupont2005 IS making the case for Summer Glau: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=305065
They are the Showkillers Defend them, condemn them, identify them.
Isn't Lindsay Price on Eastwick which is still ongoing ?
Monty_Cristo
01-22-2010, 07:00 PM
Seven killed Married with Children.
Athena Bast
01-22-2010, 07:25 PM
I don't know if he's a show killer but Simon Baker has been steadily employed in the 10 years or so but the shows he's on can't seem to stay on the air for very long.
titanfan
01-22-2010, 07:35 PM
Isn't Lindsay Price on Eastwick which is still ongoing ?
Cancelled.
Treqqor
01-22-2010, 08:03 PM
Nathan Fillion before Castle.
Stupid Castle tarnished his flawless record...
marshal99
01-22-2010, 08:05 PM
Cancelled.
Ah , i see. Did not know that it got cancelled.
I don't know if he's a show killer but Simon Baker has been steadily employed in the 10 years or so but the shows he's on can't seem to stay on the air for very long.
Well , i hope the mentalist stays around. I like the show.
The Black Guardian
01-22-2010, 09:49 PM
At one time, Paget Brewster was one of these. However, as can be seen with Criminal Minds, it's not permanent. Jon Cryer had a bad run, until 2.5 Men. Heck, Clooney was once known in Hollywood as a "pilot killer." For like 10 years, any show that he was affiliated with just wouldn't get off the ground. Then ER happened...
Jason Gedrick is a better king than McGinley. The guy has failed series all over the place: Class of '96, Sweet Justice, EZ Streets, Falcone, Murder One, The Beast, Boomtown, Windfall.
Paula Marshall was on a bad run before Gary Unmarried, but that series is kind of iffy so... maybe her bad luck is not completely done.
Nathan Fillion before Castle.
Stupid Castle tarnished his flawless record...
Just like poor Eric Close. He had a great track record of picking good shows doomed to an early death - Dark Skies, Now and Again, Magnificent Seven - then someone tricked him into signing up for Without a Trace, and now he's trapped in a show that has run several seasons.
Ted even had his own category on Jump The Shark.com (before TV Guide took it over.)
kalorama
01-23-2010, 02:34 AM
I don't know if he's a show killer but Simon Baker has been steadily employed in the 10 years or so but the shows he's on can't seem to stay on the air for very long.
I think he's really only been a lead/regular in 3 (American) shows in the past 10 years: The Guardian lasted 3 years (God only knows how) which is a decent run for a new show. Smith came and went pretty quickly. The Mentalist is in its second year with strong ratings and good critical response, so it'll probably be around for a little while longer.
How many failed shows has Tim Daly showed up in between the demise of Wings and the inexplicable success(?) of Private Practice?
kalorama
01-23-2010, 02:36 AM
Just like poor Eric Close. He had a great track record of picking good shows doomed to an early death - Dark Skies, Now and Again, Magnificent Seven - then someone tricked him into signing up for Without a Trace, and now he's trapped in a show that has run several seasons.
Well, it was canceled last season, if that makes you feel any better.
Well, it was canceled last season, if that makes you feel any better.
Good to know Eric is back on form.
Lord of Denial
01-23-2010, 03:48 AM
The dude that is the lead on Royal Pains.
Mark Feuerstein or something, before his USA show he must have been on at least 6 shows that died a quick death.
Which brings us to Alex O'Loughlin; back to back cancellations but under consideration for the CBS revival of Hawaii Five 0
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1533927/news#ni1436259
RonnieThunderbolts
01-23-2010, 01:04 PM
Nathan Fillion before Castle.
Stupid Castle tarnished his flawless record...
He was a regular cast member of Two Guys and a Girl for three seasons before it ended, so from the beginning he's shown he CAN choose shows that don't get canceled before.
Treqqor
01-23-2010, 04:18 PM
He was a regular cast member of Two Guys and a Girl for three seasons before it ended, so from the beginning he's shown he CAN choose shows that don't get canceled before.
The premier was one of the highest rated comedies for abc at the time.
Fillion shows up and then it's a slow painful death into cancellation (they certainly didn't end of their own choice).
Cancelled is cancelled. And he was part of it.
RonnieThunderbolts
01-23-2010, 04:55 PM
The premier was one of the highest rated comedies for abc at the time.
Fillion shows up and then it's a slow painful death into cancellation (they certainly didn't end of their own choice).
Cancelled is cancelled. And he was part of it.
That is ridiculous. Three years is three years, and his involvement didn't create any decline, or cause the cancellation. This is specious and faulty reasoning. Everyone is a show-killer except for the cast of the Simpsons (they are still on) and Seinfeld (they ended on their own terms) by this logic, because every show ends, and "canceled is canceled".
DubipR
01-23-2010, 05:00 PM
Jason Gedrick is a better king than McGinley. The guy has failed series all over the place: Class of '96, Sweet Justice, EZ Streets, Falcone, Murder One, The Beast, Boomtown, Windfall.
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Disagree with Murder One. Steven Bocho created Murder One to be one court case for the season. Once the case was done, the show should've cancelled. It was Anthony LaPaglia and the 2nd season people that killed that show.
At one time, Paget Brewster was one of these. However, as can be seen with Criminal Minds, it's not permanent. Jon Cryer had a bad run, until 2.5 Men. Heck, Clooney was once known in Hollywood as a "pilot killer." For like 10 years, any show that he was affiliated with just wouldn't get off the ground. Then ER happened...
Jason Gedrick is a better king than McGinley. The guy has failed series all over the place: Class of '96, Sweet Justice, EZ Streets, Falcone, Murder One, The Beast, Boomtown, Windfall.
Paula Marshall was on a bad run before Gary Unmarried, but that series is kind of iffy so... maybe her bad luck is not completely done.
You know, I've seen Jason on several shows; but never remember him. He was also on the doomed LAX.
I kind of preferred Lola Glaudini to Paget....
Jared
01-23-2010, 06:02 PM
If Huff still around? Paget Brewster was on that for a while.
For your consideration: the late Robert Urich (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001810/).
StoneGold
01-23-2010, 06:52 PM
How many failed shows has Tim Daly showed up in between the demise of Wings and the inexplicable success(?) of Private Practice?
Yeah, but the fact that Wings lasted longer than most ice ages trumps all.
That, and Superman.
The Black Guardian
01-23-2010, 09:24 PM
If Huff still around? Paget Brewster was on that for a while.
Huff was the show that broke Brewster's bad luck streak. It ended in 2006.
For your consideration: the late Robert Urich (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001810/).
In the late-90s, he certainly had some bad luck. And I really liked Lazarus Man.:frown: Of course, he tended to act in made-for-TV movies a lot more than series.
Treqqor
01-23-2010, 09:25 PM
That is ridiculous. Three years is three years, and his involvement didn't create any decline, or cause the cancellation. This is specious and faulty reasoning. Everyone is a show-killer except for the cast of the Simpsons (they are still on) and Seinfeld (they ended on their own terms) by this logic, because every show ends, and "canceled is canceled".
No, no, you misinterpret a bit.
Every show ends. Not every show is cancelled. 3 of the 4 modern Star Treks ENDED. The last was CANCELLED. Quite a large difference.
Buffy ENDED. Firefly CANCELLED.
Cheers ENDED. 2 Guys and a Girl (notice the revamp in the name and setting of the show? That's never a good sign) was CANCELLED.
And, sure, it wasn't Fillion's fault, it was most likely the schedule changes of the show. But ratings declined and they set up a fifth season by having people vote on the ending of the fourth and the direction it would take. They didn't even have a chance to play that out.
If Fillion WAS cursed (And one can argue he was, his movies did just as poor as his shows), then tangentially, we can still put the blame on him and his curse. :biggrin:
No, no, you misinterpret a bit.
Every show ends. Not every show is cancelled. 3 of the 4 modern Star Treks ENDED. The last was CANCELLED. Quite a large difference.
Buffy ENDED. Firefly CANCELLED.
Cheers ENDED. 2 Guys and a Girl (notice the revamp in the name and setting of the show? That's never a good sign) was CANCELLED.
And, sure, it wasn't Fillion's fault, it was most likely the schedule changes of the show. But ratings declined and they set up a fifth season by having people vote on the ending of the fourth and the direction it would take. They didn't even have a chance to play that out.
If Fillion WAS cursed (And one can argue he was, his movies did just as poor as his shows), then tangentially, we can still put the blame on him and his curse. :biggrin:
But many of the shows that end without cancellation did so long after they lost their spark. A lot of these shows have made casting changes that didn't appeal to fans....
comicsmetal
01-24-2010, 01:49 AM
Nathan Fillion before Castle.
Stupid Castle tarnished his flawless record...
:tongue:See that what usally happens to actors form the city of Edmonton. they are usally have bad records.
Okey I might be kidding but it could be.
Big up to my boy from E-town.
Ratstar
01-24-2010, 03:58 AM
Are there any actors who have done the opposite, where a show has gained ratings/ popularity/ success with their introduction to the cast (other than cameo guest stars)?
Are there any actors who have done the opposite, where a show has gained ratings/ popularity/ success with their introduction to the cast (other than cameo guest stars)?
Criminal Minds saw a ratings increase after Joe Mantegna replaced Mandy Patinkin.
NCIS gained viewers when Cote de Pablo joined.
The Black Guardian
01-24-2010, 11:09 AM
Criminal Minds saw a ratings increase after Joe Mantegna replaced Mandy Patinkin.
On average though, not so much. Season 3, the season Mantegna joined, saw the weakest ratings in the show's history, and now, they're back up to what they were before Patinkin left.
Ronald Bryan
01-24-2010, 12:08 PM
How about Summer Glau with one other thing? She was in Firefly, Terminator, both which were killed by Fox. She appeared on The Unit, which then got cancelled, and now she was on Dollhouse, which then got cancelled. The Unit is the glaring problem, as the show was pulling in good ratings, better than some of the other shows on CBS, and it was cancelled before them, even though it was always showing late due to football and golf. But then she shows up, is on for a few episodes, and the show gets cancelled.
I don't know if he's a show killer but Simon Baker has been steadily employed in the 10 years or so but the shows he's on can't seem to stay on the air for very long. The Mentalist is going strong though. Sometimes, it comes down to a network or show runner who really loves an actor, so they will keep throwing them in new shows until one of them sticks.
Nathan Fillion before Castle.
Stupid Castle tarnished his flawless record... Fillion was too busy picking quirky shows with odd concepts that would never run long in America. He just got lucky with a procedural.
Eliza Dushku is in the same boat, where everything she is in has no chance of connecting with the American audience.
The premier was one of the highest rated comedies for abc at the time.
Fillion shows up and then it's a slow painful death into cancellation (they certainly didn't end of their own choice).
Cancelled is cancelled. And he was part of it. I blame it on thinking Fillion could replace the pizza place. That pizza place was such a good actor. I wish Ryan Reynolds would help the pizza place out with a job. Maybe it could play Mogo.
Criminal Minds saw a ratings increase after Joe Mantegna replaced Mandy Patinkin.
NCIS gained viewers when Cote de Pablo joined. That's what happens when you put a spicy Chilean in her mid twenties on the show. And then pretend she's Israeli.
StoneGold
01-24-2010, 01:18 PM
Are there any actors who have done the opposite, where a show has gained ratings/ popularity/ success with their introduction to the cast (other than cameo guest stars)?
Jerry Orbach on Law & Order.
For that matter Sam Watterson on Law & Order.
Jared
01-24-2010, 03:11 PM
Jerry Orbach on Law & Order.
For that matter Sam Watterson on Law & Order.
Heather Locklear took Melrose Place to another level. I think she bailed out T.J. Hooker, as well.
EZMOHR
01-24-2010, 03:58 PM
Jerry Orbach on Law & Order.
For that matter Sam Watterson on Law & Order.
A show I know you like....Married with Children didn't become water cooler esque talk until Steve Rhodes left and Ted McGinley came in (plus, the Michigan mom I think that tried to picket Fox because of the show.)
Libaax
01-25-2010, 02:50 PM
Cote de Pablo is awesome as Ziva but it was the writers writing fun lines,character moments for the cast that made NCIS bigger.
NCIS at first was generic crime of the weak like Law and Order. It got much better character wise. Heck i enjoy it for the witty humor,characters and not for the crime,story arcs.
Chiasm
01-25-2010, 04:55 PM
Are there any actors who have done the opposite, where a show has gained ratings/ popularity/ success with their introduction to the cast (other than cameo guest stars)?
Jeri Ryan. Though it was her costume and assets more than Ryan's ability that led to Star Trek Voyagers revival.
You could also probably make a long list of bad guy characters who weren't around in the beginning of a show but whose introduction helped spark an uptick in popularity or creativity: Spike in Buffy, Scorpius in Farscape, Sylar in Heroes, Sark and Irina in Alias, and Ben Linus in Lost just to name a few.
marshal99
01-25-2010, 06:57 PM
Spike in Buffy ? If anything , Spike brought it down. Season 2 was good with him but when he came back in season 4 , it was all downhill with him. Spike became a lovesick puppy that is hard to bear. Ugh !
Wenatchee the Hatchet
01-25-2010, 07:16 PM
Uh, Sylar's identity and stopping him was pretty much the whole point of season 1 of Heroes. I wouldn't say he was introduced "later" in the show.
Spike did make things more interesting in season 2 of Buffy no matter how badly he was used later on. Remember that his introduction to the last season of Angel means he's actually two for two making a series more interesting even if there was a long stretch where he was lame. Sure, season 4 of Angel was pretty lame but if it was lame enough that post season 4 Buffy Spike made things better maybe that's saying something about how low season 4 Angel dropped.
Chiasm
01-25-2010, 07:27 PM
Uh, Sylar's identity and stopping him was pretty much the whole point of season 1 of Heroes. I wouldn't say he was introduced "later" in the show.
Yes but it was Zachary Quinto's characterization of him that really did the trick. The show was popular already at that time but Sylar, once he finally showed up on screen, quickly became the most popular character. And I think that its all about Quinto more than the character. A bad casting job and the character would have been killed off at the end of season one (which might actually have been a good thing creatively for the show).
Ronald Bryan
01-25-2010, 07:34 PM
Spike in Buffy ? If anything , Spike brought it down. Season 2 was good with him but when he came back in season 4 , it was all downhill with him. Spike became a lovesick puppy that is hard to bear. Ugh !
But he didn't kill the show. It wasn't cancelled right after he showed up. And the actor didn't kill Smallville after appearing on it, which is what the thread is about, someone who kills shows by being on them.
Then again, at this point, I don't think anything can kill Smallville.
Wenatchee the Hatchet
01-26-2010, 03:39 AM
Not even kryptonite ... :frown:
Okay, point taken about Quinto's take on the character, Chiasm. There were a lot of times in Heroes from season 2 on where I only put up with all the crap because as bad as the show got I loved Quinto and Coleman's way of making their characters interesting. I keep pretending that Heroes was just a one-season show that didn't send Hiro into the past. He could have just disappeared after killing Sylar and I wouldn't have cared. :smile:
Libaax
01-26-2010, 10:11 AM
Spike helped Buffy more than he hurt. I watched it 60% for Spike and 40% for Buffy.
He made seasons 4+ enjoyable.
He was much more interesting as a bad guy early on and later one of Buffy crew.
Much better than lovesick puppy that was Angel in Buffy.....
Brother Justin Crowe
01-26-2010, 10:43 AM
Brian Cox - Kings wound up a one-season wonder, announced as canceled not long after his character Vesper Abbadon was introduced, and Deadwood ended the season his character Jackie Langrishe was introduced. Great actor, though.
Summer Glau - Firefly, Terminator: TSCC, Dollhouse.
Sean Maher - Ryan Caulfield Year One, Firefly, The $treet, Party of Five
John Aylward - The Others, Carnivale, The West Wing, The Fugitive (2000-2001)
Cara Buono - The Dead Zone, The Sopranos, Third Watch, guest-starred in the final episode of ER
Ottmeister X
01-26-2010, 10:52 AM
Here's a great showkiller from The Flintstones.
carabas
01-26-2010, 11:34 AM
Spike in Buffy ? If anything , Spike brought it down. Season 2 was good with him but when he came back in season 4 , it was all downhill with him. Spike became a lovesick puppy that is hard to bear. Ugh !Spike had been in seasons 2 through 7. So if he really was a show killer, he certainly took his sweet time doing it.
You'd have more of an argument if you'd said "Spike in Angel".
kalorama
01-26-2010, 08:23 PM
Spike had been in seasons 2 through 7. So if he really was a show killer, he certainly took his sweet time doing it.
You'd have more of an argument if you'd said "Spike in Angel".
Not really. Angel was already on life support when Marsters joined the cast. One of the reasons he was brought in was to try and boost ratings.
Not really. Angel was already on life support when Marsters joined the cast. One of the reasons he was brought in was to try and boost ratings.
They also added Harmony, and had Faith and Andrew appear...
Wenatchee the Hatchet
01-27-2010, 01:55 AM
And Willow, too. Actually, given all the cross-over stuff happening it did send off the signal that the end was nigh and they knew it.
carabas
01-27-2010, 02:30 AM
And Willow, too. Actually, given all the cross-over stuff happening it did send off the signal that the end was nigh and they knew it.Well, what really killed it was that the network really didn't want to do two vampire shows. And then that other vampire show (forgot the name) was canceled after one season or half a season.
IIRC Angel's ratings were not critically bad. It was just an assbackwards decision.
Rena Sofer's preparing to work her magic on Bones: http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/
Omega Alpha
02-10-2010, 06:34 PM
Rena Sofer is definitively one of them. The woman is stunningly hot, but whether by bad luck or bad choices, nothing she does lasts long.
kalorama
02-10-2010, 07:05 PM
Well, what really killed it was that the network really didn't want to do two vampire shows. And then that other vampire show (forgot the name) was canceled after one season or half a season.
IIRC Angel's ratings were not critically bad. It was just an assbackwards decision.
Other Vamipre show? I don't recall another vampire show on the WB at the time Angel was on.
Chiasm
02-11-2010, 05:09 AM
Other Vamipre show? I don't recall another vampire show on the WB at the time Angel was on.
Me either. The only similar show I can think of was Charmed but it certainly wasn't a vampire show.
Moonlight on CBS didn't come til later and Vampire Diaries just started this year. I can't think of any other vampire shows that have been on TV in the last five years or so.
Imaginos666
02-11-2010, 12:46 PM
Me either. The only similar show I can think of was Charmed but it certainly wasn't a vampire show.
Moonlight on CBS didn't come til later and Vampire Diaries just started this year. I can't think of any other vampire shows that have been on TV in the last five years or so.
It was a re-make of Dark Shadows (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0887892/). A pilot was shot, and WB bumped Angel to make way for it. Then they decided not to pick up Dark Shadows after all, leaving them with NO vampire shows.
Dark Shadows was produced by Warner Bros. Angel was produced by Fox. I think WB simply picked a show produced by their own company, and didn't want competition airing on their own network. I don't think things worked out the way they wanted, though.
The Black Guardian
02-11-2010, 12:55 PM
Edit: Ah, nevermind.
Sean Walsh
02-11-2010, 12:57 PM
Wouldn't the incredible success of MARRIED WITH CHILDREN take Ted McGinley's name off this list, or at least knock it way down? (He was also on HOPE & FAITH for its entire 3 or 4 year run, wasn't he?)
And re: Rena Sofer......they dumped her mid-season from JUST SHOOT ME, didn't they? She was definitely the main person for a few episodes, but then she faded into the supporting cast and then vanished completely not long after.
...And the ever plucky Lindsay Price lands another pilot....:http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3ibe85493aa8b41330230e847d10f8b987
comicsmetal
03-03-2010, 02:24 PM
I was thinking one that was on the list years ago but before two and half men jon cryer was a showkiller.
Tom Cavanagh just landed a new show:
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/03/08/tom-cavanagh-is-edgar-floats/
Jerry O'Connell is set to join Jim Belushi in "The Defenders" http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i5c964e4d188f55812ea8916016ac52d2
Buried Alien
03-10-2010, 09:36 AM
Barry Van Dyck (AIRWOLF Season 4 and GALACTICA 1980)
Buried Alien (The Most Hopeful Post Alive!)
G. Wayne
03-10-2010, 10:43 AM
Summer Glau sure can't catch a break between Firefly, Terminator, and Dollhouse.
But for that matter, Whedon hasn't had a lot of luck since Angel either.
And speaking of Whedon, are we counting Fillion's voiceover work in JLU as well?
Well, what really killed it was that the network really didn't want to do two vampire shows. And then that other vampire show (forgot the name) was canceled after one season or half a season.
IIRC Angel's ratings were not critically bad. It was just an assbackwards decision.
Yeah, what other vampire show? Was Blade: the Series on WB around the time?
And if memory serves, wasn't Angel one of the highest rated shows for the 18-30whatever demographic on WB at the time? Fwiw, I was told that a higher up at WB didn't want the show canceled, and when they heard that someone lower on the totem pole canceled the show, they were pissed. Sort of moot now, but yeah, signs put to it being a bad call at the time.
Summer Glau sure can't catch a break between Firefly, Terminator, and Dollhouse...
But she's not giving up either: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/12/summer-glau-returns-if-her-pilot-is-picked-up-will-it-succeed-on-nbc/44779
Jared
03-12-2010, 03:04 PM
speaking of Whedon, are we counting Fillion's voiceover work in JLU as well?
Nah, Fillion is already disqualified as a show-killer due to Two Guys and a Girl.
Yeah, what other vampire show? Was Blade: the Series on WB around the time?
Blood Ties, maybe? Blade was on Spike, but I think it was after Angel ended. Then there was Moonlight, the less said the better.
Red Lotus
03-12-2010, 03:10 PM
But she's not giving up either: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/12/summer-glau-returns-if-her-pilot-is-picked-up-will-it-succeed-on-nbc/44779
Love her to death and I wish she would find some thing that had legs on it. But I dont think this is the role.
Jared
03-12-2010, 04:13 PM
Yeah...another superhero show on NBC. That'll turn out well, I'm sure. :wink:
Christian Slater's not wasting any time: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i6e499b206b4e48abef48f4341b56d140
This should officially be the final nail in Forgotten's coffin.
Chiasm
03-22-2010, 08:59 PM
But she's not giving up either: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/12/summer-glau-returns-if-her-pilot-is-picked-up-will-it-succeed-on-nbc/44779
Just what she doesn't need - another sci fi show. Poor girl is going to become so typecast, if she isn't already, that she'll never be considered for any other type of role.
kalorama
03-23-2010, 06:08 PM
Just what she doesn't need - another sci fi show. Poor girl is going to become so typecast, if she isn't already, that she'll never be considered for any other type of role.
Or she's already reached that point and thus doesn't have a lot of other options/offers to choose from.
No, no, you misinterpret a bit.
Every show ends. Not every show is cancelled. 3 of the 4 modern Star Treks ENDED. The last was CANCELLED. Quite a large difference.
And i still hold that Enterprise was both good and badly needed.
Dagnabit.
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