Amazing Spider-Man #618 Spoilers and Discussion [Archive]

CyberHubbs

01-20-2010, 03:23 PM

Mysterioso, Pt. 1

The Maggia crime family has had it pretty rough of late. The hardest blow came recently (ASM #546-548) when Mr. Negative poisoned all of the adult males, except for one: Baby Bruno Karnelli. Since then, Mr. Negative has been whittling down their operations little by little. The latest target is Bruno's underground casino which he's using to launder money through, much to the chagrin of his underlings. So the Inner-Demons, led by former Maggia operative Hammerhead, of course attack the casino, only to be interrupted by Spider-Man.

After the Maggia make their escape, as does Hammerhead and his boys, Peter returns to the scene of the crime to find Carlie Cooper collecting evidence while trying to ignore the whispers of other officers over her recent professional 'issues' during the Sandman arc. Carlie notices a fishy smell on the money being gathered, but before she can think about it further, Peter pops up. He asks her out to lunch, only to postpone when he remembers he has to pick Aunt May and Jay up at the airport with Randy Robertson's borrowed car. Carlie is left to grumble about Peter, while a stranger with a green ring watches her from around a corner.

After a harrowing drive back into the city, Peter drops Aunt May at the FEAST Center. There, she witnesses a brutal punishment by Mr. Negative upon one of his Inner-Demons for failing to stop Spider-Man at the casino. Seems Mr. Li is now aware of his dual persona, at that, because he stops a horrified Aunt May from escaping the scene.

Back at the Karnelli estate, Bruno has a few visitors. Its the men that were killed at the beginning of the issue, as seen in the preview, each one explaining how they faked their deaths. The last visitor turns out to be Silvermane. And all of this is due to the intervention of one Quentin Beck, Mysterio!

We also find out that Jay Jameson made his money as a writer. Seems he had his own secret identity, which he shares with Peter. They're interrupted by Aunt May, who verbally attacks Peter and sends him scurrying off into the night, ashamed and embarrassed.

The issue ends with Silvermane leading an attack against Negative's Inner-Demons in a meat-packing plant. Carlie is there, also, after checking on a lead because of the fishy cash she found earlier at the casino. As the rest of the NYPD races to the rescue, Carlie tries to keep her cool when she's confronted by...her dead father? WTF?!

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This issue lacked the emotional punch of Kelly's Rage of the Rhino story that came before it, but I didn't see that as a problem. They can't all be sappy and romantic, right? Slott does provide a lot of action, and of course several twists, and you can be sure that Mysterio being involved means that several of the revelations seen here are probably not going to turn out to be what you automatically expect. Or are they? Twist upon twist upon twist. Its like the Mysterio Motto.

Martin's art...Yeah, I don't even have to explain it. Just marvel at the two-page layout when Spidey crashes the casino brawl. Kirby Almighty!

CyberHubbs

01-20-2010, 03:29 PM

Addendum: I think its a nice touch that Mr. Li tried to talk his way out of it with Aunt May while holding a sword and standing over a bloodied Inner-Demon. Aside from the bloodshed, the explanation he gave sounded very...Peter-esque.

Wonder if that was on purpose.

Schmed

01-20-2010, 03:38 PM

I thought this was a decent issue too, nice set up for the next one. Carlie's thought dead father was wearing a green ring too I noticed. I'm willing to swallow that Beck is alive, he is after all, the master of illusion. But with Harry already "resurrected" due to Mysterio, I really don't care to hear anyone else suddenly coming back to life because Mysterio faked their deaths. It's just too damn easy of an out as we saw with the entire Maggia clan. It feels like this plot device is already worn thin. But other than that no real complaints about the story telling. Not the twist I was expecting in the Aunt May JJJSr marriage either....I await the next issue with little to no patience.

Oh and as stated in the post above, the art work speaks for it self! (that's means it is %$*#ing amazing!)

Dick/babs

01-20-2010, 03:40 PM

Mysterioso, Pt. 1

while a stranger with a green ring watches her from around a corner.

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a stranger with a green ring is it Hal Jordan or Kyle Rayner :eek: Guy Gardner :confused:John Stuart:tongue:

Schmed

01-20-2010, 03:59 PM

I re-read it just now and I guess I am an awful detective, I'm sure that the green ringed stranger in the background watching Carlie was her dad, also seen wearing the ring at the end....D'oh!

Spidey_62

01-20-2010, 06:42 PM

I loved this issue, we got Silvermane back! I'd been looking forward to this arc the most and so far it has not disappointed. It's a cool idea to have Mysterio be in the business of faking people's deaths, and the possibility that he may have faked his own right in front of Daredevil.

And one more hurrah for Marcos Martin's art.:biggrin:

Kevin Nichols

01-20-2010, 06:50 PM

I thought this was a fantastic issue. In fact, I though it was better than last week's. It was great to see Silvermane back in action, and I'm really looking forward to the Spidey/Mysterio showdown.

I also enjoyed Aunt May's encounter with Martin Li. We all knew something was going to happen eventually, and I like the direction they're going in. Li seems to genuinely care for May and tried to give her a lame excuse to avoid hurting her.

I'm kind of wondering what Hammerhead is going to do. Wed of Spider-Man # 4 leads me to believe that he's got something up his sleeve. But he's never been overly strong in the brains department and he seemed to be caught off guard by Silvermane's appearance.

Gabe De Los Muertos

01-20-2010, 07:27 PM

Great issue, I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes. I'm glad for the return of Silvermane and Mr. Negative!!

Chris S.

01-20-2010, 08:23 PM

Yea this book seems to be moving along really well now. I don't get how people can like Martin and not like the last few weeks worth of art. I personally didn't like Martin right out the get go but this issue seemed perfect.

Carlie haircut just bugged me. In a few panels she seemed drawn poorly too.

Aunt May's development seemed interesting.

I'm glad to see Mr Negative back. I've always liked Spidey dealing with organized crime and Negative is a good mix of Super Villain and Super Thug. I didn't like how they developed him for a while then just dropped him.

Did anyone notice they finished the issue with "Why not blow our Wad early?" Does that strike anyone else as a bit inappropriate? Is my mind just in the gutter maybe...

HaroldAllnut

01-20-2010, 09:16 PM

Man, I felt bad for Peter. Aunt May really gave it to him, no holds barred. I'm surprised he didn't break down crying. That was some rough stuff she said (obviously due to Mr. Negative's influence, but all the same).

Addendum: I think its a nice touch that Mr. Li tried to talk his way out of it with Aunt May while holding a sword and standing over a bloodied Inner-Demon. Aside from the bloodshed, the explanation he gave sounded very...Peter-esque.

Wonder if that was on purpose.

That was pretty fantastic. I found it really amusing, but almost frightening at the same time.

RDMacQ

01-20-2010, 09:29 PM

What was it that May said to Peter? I haven't made it to the comic store this week, and I'm not planning another trip for a while.

Regulus B.

01-20-2010, 09:49 PM

We also find out that Jay Jameson made his money as a writer. Seems he had his own secret identity, which he shares with Peter. They're interrupted by Aunt May, who verbally attacks Peter and sends him scurrying off into the night, ashamed and embarrassed.

So is that the extent of his secret? Anything awful about it?

Web_Spinner

01-20-2010, 10:04 PM

loved seeing Mysterio and I like the idea of him using his talents to fake people's deaths, likely for an obscene amount of money. Seems very...Mysterio. Would have liked to see more of him.

Also loved seeing Mr. Negative and the Inner Daemons! The best things to come out of BND, for sure. I hope he becomes a major player in the spidey-verse!

Not really feeling Carlie's haircut, just seemed unnecessary, but might play out by the end of the arc. She just looked a little too male with the new hair-do in some scenes of an otherwise excellent issue by Martin. Also, didn't really care about seeing Carlie's dad alive, hopefully it ends up having some important ramifications to Spidey.

I'm curious to see where Mr. Negative's interaction with Aunt May leads.

All in all, a solid introduction to Slott's latest offering!

Spidey616

01-20-2010, 10:56 PM

Looking forward to see whether or not Mr. Negative at last uses that last batch of Devil's Breath on Spidey :biggrin:

CyberHubbs

01-20-2010, 11:20 PM

So is that the extent of his secret? Anything awful about it?

Not especially. If he's hiding some dark, sinister secret, it certainly wasn't revealed here.

StoneGold

01-21-2010, 12:01 AM

Holy crap that was a packed issue. And I literally burst out laughing at the "Um, I can explain" scene.

That said, Martin draw Carlie ugly. Like unattractive effeminate boy. Make me sad.

Jay Dogg

01-21-2010, 12:35 AM

What was it that May said to Peter? I haven't made it to the comic store this week, and I'm not planning another trip for a while.

She went in on the many jobs he's had: a teacher, a photographer among others, and talked about how he's this genius, but has nothing to show for it. Topped it off by calling him a huge disappointment.

He hung his head and just left...

Aziz Abbasi

01-21-2010, 04:16 AM

I love the recap about the Maggia history
Loved seeing Marty exposed to May
Loved the casino fight scene and the people outside reaction to Spider-Man based on his action, the casino fight is great
I wish every big mob have a stupid leader like Maggia's to ruin the gang from inside thinking he does well

Why hasn't there been any mention of "Whitney Frost"/"Madame Masque"? Did she leave the Maggia permenantly?
I'm pretty sure May & Jay returned in the Electro arc, why do they return from their honeymoon again here?
Carlie's poppa? Alive? Hidden away for long? They better have a very good explanation for that

John Zaleski

01-21-2010, 04:29 AM

Aunt may is a B****. shoulda just died omd.

Jim Thompson

01-21-2010, 05:04 AM

She went in on the many jobs he's had: a teacher, a photographer among others, and talked about how he's this genius, but has nothing to show for it. Topped it off by calling him a huge disappointment.

He hung his head and just left...Has May ever been written like that before?

Schmed

01-21-2010, 05:08 AM

Has May ever been written like that before?

Not likely but
She was touched by Mr. Negative and something happened to her, whatever he did to her caused her to become like that, her eyes went all black, it even showed her eyes while she was telling Pete all that.

Jim Thompson

01-21-2010, 05:11 AM

Not likely but
She was touched by Mr. Negative and something happened to her, whatever he did to her caused her to become like that, her eyes went all black, it even showed her eyes while she was telling Pete all that.Ah -- that makes a bit more sense.

DKR

01-21-2010, 05:16 AM

Chris S.

01-21-2010, 05:53 AM

Has May ever been written like that before?

Jim, I understand your frustration with the title right now but these Gauntlet books have really been good. I'd firmly suggest picking all of them up.

I do think we are going to see a decline in sales though. It will be interesting this month with Martin doing the artwork on the title.

ShaggyB

01-21-2010, 05:58 AM

well other than two things i disliked, i found it to be a good issue... This is an arc that i honestly need to have all the parts to because i cant wait for the next....

my two disappointments were.

1) Martin knows hes mr negative now? when did that happen?

2) If he touched May and made her do as he wanted.... then how will peter break the control of her..... After reading Mr Negative mini... it took all peter had to break the hold over him.....

So i suppose #2 is only a negative for now.... (Perhaps anti-venom will save her... he knows the truth about Li.)

Chris S.

01-21-2010, 06:00 AM

1) Martin knows hes mr negative now? when did that happen?

Was it ever made clear he didn't know though? Always seemed to be hinted at and never confirmed.

ShaggyB

01-21-2010, 06:33 AM

Was it ever made clear he didn't know though? Always seemed to be hinted at and never confirmed.

the fact that he was playing that chinese chess game with himself and didnt know how the pieces moved.... back in NWTD.

Until this issue was it ever shown that he did know?

Chris S.

01-21-2010, 07:06 AM

the fact that he was playing that chinese chess game with himself and didnt know how the pieces moved.... back in NWTD.

Until this issue was it ever shown that he did know?

No, I think it was intentional to increase interest in the character. Slott must not have liked it though.

Hi-Fi

01-21-2010, 07:42 AM

This was a pretty good issue. Marcos Martin's art makes me weak in the knees.

coconutphone

01-21-2010, 07:50 AM

This was a pretty good issue. Marcos Martin's art makes me weak in the knees.

What doesn't?

:tongue:

Hi-Fi

01-21-2010, 07:53 AM

What doesn't?

:tongue:
True. I'm easy.

Facebrooks

01-21-2010, 07:57 AM

How's it going guys? My first post here, but I've been reading the forums for a solid year now. Been a Spider-Man fan for a long time, but thanks to BND I had a sturdy place to start up again.

Anyway, Absolutely loved the issue. Lots of stuff going on, which is always good.

- The two-page spread fight was amazingly balanced and well thought out.
- Mr. Negative's scene with May just rocked. Mr. Li trying to pass off his attack as a chinese custom was darkly humorous.
- JJJ Sr & May's relationship took a turn for the unexpected. I'm sure nobody saw that coming.
- Carlie Cooper's life just got interesting. I'm glad she's starting to toughen up as a character, even calling Peter a jerk for bailing on her (also probably for the horrible 'date' they had in Fear Itself).
- Mysterio's dialogue is so over-the-top, I laughed pretty good with that scene.
- Hammerhead hasn't ever been this interesting to me. I really like his character since the upgrade. His story in Web #4 was some nice background on his motivations as well.
- Silvermane! Not too shabby, wasn't expecting him in the issue at all.

Overall: 9/10

Coupled with the Rhino story last week, which was damn near perfect, Spider-Man is starting off 2010 on a solid foot.

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1) Martin knows hes mr negative now? when did that happen?

2) If he touched May and made her do as he wanted.... then how will peter break the control of her..... After reading Mr Negative mini... it took all peter had to break the hold over him.....

for 1 - I really hope they address that a bit. Otherwise you could chalk it up to a gradual fusion of the two sides into one being without anything really being said about it. But still, that was one of his main bullet-points when he was introduced, so if it can be addressed, I'd sleep better.

for 2 - It'll have to be something major to shake her back to normal, like maybe JJJ Sr will threaten an annulment on their marriage.

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One question though: Is the reader supposed to recognize the faces of the re-built Maggia family members? I've been reading past issues of Spider-Man from before BND and none of those faces rang any bells for me.

ShaggyB

01-21-2010, 08:19 AM

for 1 - I really hope they address that a bit. Otherwise you could chalk it up to a gradual fusion of the two sides into one being without anything really being said about it. But still, that was one of his main bullet-points when he was introduced, so if it can be addressed, I'd sleep better.

I agree, I had to read the page twice as it jarred me due to the previous portrayals of the split personality...

for 2 - It'll have to be something major to shake her back to normal, like maybe JJJ Sr will threaten an annulment on their marriage.

man i hope not... I think May and JJJsr are good together.... Less trouble for them sounds good to me... but again im likely jumping the gun on #2.... im sure it will be worked out.

One question though: Is the reader supposed to recognize the faces of the re-built Maggia family members? I've been reading past issues of Spider-Man from before BND and none of those faces rang any bells for me.

other than silvermane i didnt know any of them....

-btw-
Welcome, glad you decided to post.

Gabe De Los Muertos

01-21-2010, 08:22 AM

Welcome to the boards Facebrooks!!! :biggrin:

D. Perez

01-21-2010, 08:38 AM

Just read it and though the story was fine. Nice to see a gang war again in Spider-man, and even more: Great to see Mr. Negative again. (The only good villain left from BND IMO). I’m still not a fan of Martin’s art. Especially Carly and the one shot of Mysterio looks ugly I feel.
Also May’s word to Peter: Hated it and though it was stupid.

All in all, a decent issue. Not as good as the last 3, but still enough to make me read next issue

Facebrooks

01-21-2010, 09:15 AM

man i hope not... I think May and JJJsr are good together.... Less trouble for them sounds good to me... but again im likely jumping the gun on #2.... im sure it will be worked out.

Agreed, finally something gives May a little youth in the series, and as turbulent as that splash page was of JJJsr and May together in bed, at least she wasn't moping around or just there for the sake of her character's legacy. She's finally relevant again.

other than silvermane i didnt know any of them....

Whew ok I always get this nagging feeling when it feels like I'm missing something (like in the Molten Man story where I had no idea why Mark Raxton was in the condition that he was in).

-btw-
Welcome, glad you decided to post.

Welcome to the boards Facebrooks!!! :biggrin:

Thanks guys :D

Mysterio's Helmet

01-21-2010, 10:17 AM

Well, as you can tell, there was nothing that could've been "bad" to me about this issue. I readily admit that even if it was "eight levels of awful- approaching level nine" I would've been just happy to see Mysterio back.

But I don't have to be that way because it was a great read.

First, I liked the character take. Mysterio can be a bit "cheesy" but I read it more as he's an attention whore which I admit is backwards considering what he's doing. Everything has to be "drama-ed up" and he HAS TO take credit for his work int he end. And to that end, I think it's a perfect take. Also like the fact that we're basically going back and making Mysterio as the ultimate set-up guy.

I wonder if Slott knew that there are "professionals" in the real world that do this kind of thing or if it's just a niche that he thought would be a great re-entrance????

Second, loved the art. I'm not big on art as I've always loved a good story. Art is the accompaniment but I will echo others that I love Martin's style.

In fact, I'd love to know where I could purchase some of his stuff ( just a page with Mysterio on it from this arc!!!! *hint hint* somebody help!!!!!!!)

And ultimately I remember the days of the Rose and the Hobgoblin back in the 230's to the 290's. Gang Wars. All that stuff. And to that effect, it's about time. :)

I have a question: In the lone appearance on-page, I don't see a cape. Am I to couple that with Web #4 to the fact that Quentin makes a comment that his "cape is too long"? Out of the Incredibles? I just didn't see it there. But I'm interested in the helmet design and can't wait to see Mysterio back in action.

And to see if it is actually Quentin back from the dead. Once again, Web #4 lends itself to an early dealing with a "demon".

Well done. Can't wait til' next week!

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 10:17 AM

FYI, I don't think any of the dead Maggia were seen before this issue. They just all had 'deaths' at the beginning of the issue as part of the Maggia's continuous troubles, and later Mysterio was used to explain them still living.

And, yeah. May got touched by Mr. Negative, so he inverted her attitude like he's done to others, even Spidey during Van Lente's Dark Reign mini. Here's hoping May buys a Harley and starts clubbing. "I'm Hell on wheels, Jay! Don't wait up, bitch!" VROOM!

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 10:27 AM

Also, I liked Carlie's haircut. Seems a little more modern.

Could be my eternal love for tomboys, though.

StoneGold

01-21-2010, 10:28 AM

What doesn't?

:tongue:

Apparently not Pete. He saw the new way Carlie was being drawn and dropped her like yesterday's non-existent marriage.

StoneGold

01-21-2010, 10:29 AM

Also, I liked Carlie's haircut. Seems a little more modern.

Could be my eternal love for tomboys, though.

If by modern you mean the early-to-mid 90s.

http://www.bundyology.com/sfg/814m.jpg

StoneGold

01-21-2010, 10:30 AM

Has May ever been written like that before?

No, but Pete never tried to kill Betty before Mr. Negative, either.

Unless I'm forgetting that issue of Spidey Super Stories.

RDMacQ

01-21-2010, 10:32 AM

Also, I liked Carlie's haircut. Seems a little more modern.

Could be my eternal love for tomboys, though.

But how is she going to go from that haircut to the long haired image seen in the 2010 preview?

StoneGold

01-21-2010, 10:33 AM

But how is she going to go from that haircut to the long haired image seen in the 2010 preview?

Women have a thing now called "extensions."

Mysterio's Helmet

01-21-2010, 10:39 AM

You guys are arguing about the hair of a character? Who cares? (no offense meant)

StoneGold

01-21-2010, 10:44 AM

You guys are arguing about the hair of a character? Who cares? (no offense meant)

I don't think anyone was particularly arguing about it. I've just been randomly bitching that Martin oddly uglied up the character. Rest of the book was beautiful, but suddenly Carlie is, out of nowhere, modeled on somewhere between Marcy D'Arcy and Harry Potter.

RDMacQ

01-21-2010, 10:44 AM

Women have a thing now called "extensions."

So, Carlie is going from the NYPD to the Jersey Shore?

StoneGold

01-21-2010, 10:47 AM

So, Carlie is going from the NYPD to the Jersey Shore?

See, the trick is when they're done right, you're never going to know anyway. Besides, I figure getting asked out, then immediately ditched, by the dork with the camera has to send her into some kind of emotional tailspin.

ShaggyB

01-21-2010, 10:50 AM

Women have a thing now called "extensions."

hahahahaha

almost choked on my water, well played

RDMacQ

01-21-2010, 10:54 AM

See, the trick is when they're done right, you're never going to know anyway. Besides, I figure getting asked out, then immediately ditched, by the dork with the camera has to send her into some kind of emotional tailspin.

I think Peter'll know if Carlie goes from paige-boy haircut to long haired redhead.

Although there is the thought that Carlie's depiction in the teaser image was deliberately drawn that way to throw of suspicion. Pete might be locking lips with Carlie, but the image may have been drawn and colored to make people think that Peter was kissing MJ.

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 10:57 AM

ShaggyB

01-21-2010, 10:57 AM

I think Peter'll know if Carlie goes from paige-boy haircut to long haired redhead.

Although there is the thought that Carlie's depiction in the teaser image was deliberately drawn that way to throw of suspicion. Pete might be locking lips with Carlie, but the image may have been drawn and colored to make people think that Peter was kissing MJ.

or it could be he kisses both this year and they combined the two..... or perhaps the kiss comes much later and she grows her hair back out..... or perhaps marcos drew it wrong in this issue and we get her back to the old look next time and a fun wacker fact about it....

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 11:02 AM

Well, lets keep in mind that the teaser's artist probably won't be working on that issue anyway. So while they do kiss, Carlie will be depicted with short hair when it does happen.

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 11:06 AM

If by modern you mean the early-to-mid 90s.

http://www.bundyology.com/sfg/814m.jpg

That haircut transcends the ages, man.

But seriously. Carlie's haircut is all kinds of stylish right now. Perfect example. (http://www.hair-news.com/very-short-hairstyles-01.html)

Plus, it gets her away from looking like Deb Whitman.

ShaggyB

01-21-2010, 11:07 AM

Well, lets keep in mind that the teaser's artist probably won't be working on that issue anyway. So while they do kiss, Carlie will be depicted with short hair when it does happen.

thats a fair point too... so that we recognize her... they used her last haircut... Now that we know its different, the kiss would feature the new haircut.

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 11:09 AM

thats a fair point too... so that we recognize her... they used her last haircut... Now that we know its different, the kiss would feature the new haircut.

Yeah. Its not like the teaser is a bunch of images lifted out of the book. More like a representation.

Chris S.

01-21-2010, 11:22 AM

See, the trick is when they're done right, you're never going to know anyway. Besides, I figure getting asked out, then immediately ditched, by the dork with the camera has to send her into some kind of emotional tailspin.

Let's hope thats not the case. I don't want to see a rehash of old events. Deb has no self confidence and we don't need a new version of her. That would even go with whoever mentioned the short hair.

I can't stand the short hair though. We will see.

I also can never tell if Peter is even interested in Carlie or not.

Facebrooks

01-21-2010, 11:25 AM

I also can never tell if Peter is even interested in Carlie or not.

He shows a lot of hesitation around her when concerning a romantic edge in their relationship. Maybe he just cares too much about her to really give it a go?

He did agree to go out on a 'date' with her in the Spider-Man: Fear Itself one-shot, but he couldn't even do that right because of all the Man-Thing spores sprouting on him.

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 11:25 AM

Let's hope thats not the case. I don't want to see a rehash of old events. Deb has no self confidence and we don't need a new version of her. That would even go with whoever mentioned the short hair.

I can't stand the short hair though. We will see.

I also can never tell if Peter is even interested in Carlie or not.

At the beginning of BND, Carlie was the cute girl that Peter never noticed because he was too busy dealing with his own problems. Even to this day, I don't think he realizes that she had a crush on him.

I think he likes her as a friend, but not because of any fault of her character. Just that Peter can be pretty stupid sometimes.

machinegun154

01-21-2010, 11:36 AM

This was an alright issue, felt kinda lacking though after the previous few. I cant quite put my finger on why though.

As for Carlie, at first it seemed like her and Peter were going to get together, but now I’m not so sure if that'll happen. There are at least four other potential women for Peter who have had more character work done on them. Nothing about Carlie has particularly changed since the beginning of BND. She has and continues to be the mousy girl who is just kind of there. Her new look seems to have cemented her as that character.

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 11:40 AM

Facebrooks

01-21-2010, 11:43 AM

Except for the part where she's helped Peter solve several cases?

Ah! That's right! They do work well together as a crime-fighting team in that regard.

machinegun154

01-21-2010, 11:56 AM

StoneGold

01-21-2010, 11:57 AM

That haircut transcends the ages, man.

But seriously. Carlie's haircut is all kinds of stylish right now. Perfect example. (http://www.hair-news.com/very-short-hairstyles-01.html)

Plus, it gets her away from looking like Deb Whitman.

Except it's not that haircut. That haircut has shape to it. Carlie's was just a short mass of hair. There's a difference between a girl with short hair and what Carlie was drawn with.

Besides, Carlie not being blond and Deb not having appeared in decades might help with that as well.

StoneGold

01-21-2010, 12:00 PM

As for Carlie, at first it seemed like her and Peter were going to get together, but now I’m not so sure if that'll happen. There are at least four other potential women for Peter who have had more character work done on them. Nothing about Carlie has particularly changed since the beginning of BND. She has and continues to be the mousy girl who is just kind of there. Her new look seems to have cemented her as that character.

Although that's kind of Gwen's position in the Spectacular animated show.

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 12:03 PM

Good point. I forgot about that. Be that as it may she is more defined by her job rather than her personality. Pete's other women are the opposite. There have Norah who does everything in the moment. Michelle who is nutso but is showing signs of letting up on the crazy. MJ and Black Cat are in a league of there own due to how much longer they've been around. Carlie on the other hand has been around for two years now and has been nothing more than painfully shy CSI Tech around Pete.

Norah is certainly leading the pack (of the new women, anyway), but I think her introduction was much more well-received. She automatically fit into the cute hipster girl that wears ties and licks people niche. Was MJ anything more than a party girl for a long while at first? Wasn't exactly bursting with character development, but she was hot and very outgoing, and being a redhead doesn't hurt the equation. She survived on flavor until they started delving into her.

I don't know if I'd just say Carlie is the 'painfully shy CSI Tech' and leave it at that. She's pretty much Peter, in that she's not very outgoing, doesn't like going out to bars and clubs, and would probably just want to sit at home and watch late-night television while pigging out on ice cream. We're accepting of that in our male characters, but not so much the female ones.

ShaggyB

01-21-2010, 12:07 PM

We're accepting of that in our male characters, but not so much the female ones.

I find that appealing about her honestly.

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 12:08 PM

Except it's not that haircut. That haircut has shape to it. Carlie's was just a short mass of hair. There's a difference between a girl with short hair and what Carlie was drawn with.

Besides, Carlie not being blond and Deb not having appeared in decades might help with that as well.

I literally have the issue open in front of me, and Carlie's hair is sloping to the side in a very similar fashion. It just has less detail than an actual picture of real hair. And its a little shorter. Sure, I'd blame Martin's less detailed style for that. Still.

While I think Carlie has her own personality that separates her from the Deb/Gwen comparisons, she definitely had a similar look to Deb. Glasses, a little mousy, rockin' the kind of nerdy girl look.

spiderman_rj

01-21-2010, 01:07 PM

correct me if i'm wrong, didnt silvermane turned into a spermatozoid, years ago ? or im thinking a diferent silvermane ? carlie hairdo, uuuuuuuuurgh.
i please, dont let may "revert" back. pleeeeeease, im loving her already !

rpriske

01-21-2010, 01:08 PM

Whenever a Marcos Martin issue comes out and I see people gushing over it, it makes me sad, because my hope that he will be replaced get a little more remote.

I can't put my finger on it, but I just don't like his art for Spider-man. He just doesn't look 'right' to me.

Gabe De Los Muertos

01-21-2010, 01:08 PM

spiderman_rj

01-21-2010, 01:25 PM

Also, I liked Carlie's haircut. Seems a little more modern.

Could be my eternal love for tomboys, though.

modern, where the hell have you been in the 60-70s ? i was still in my dad's scrotum, but i watched jennie and i know where that comes from.

whiteshark

01-21-2010, 02:01 PM

correct me if i'm wrong, didnt silvermane turned into a spermatozoid, years ago ? or im thinking a diferent silvermane ?

Allthough Silvermane drank a potion that made him grow younger without stoping in ASM#74,he did got better and returned as a villain in the Spectacular Spider-Man title.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/20130-2870-22459-1-spectacular-spider-m_super.jpg

spiderman_rj

01-21-2010, 02:04 PM

oh, i never followed spectacular much, i though the robotic silvermane was from the 90s cartoon.

RDMacQ

01-21-2010, 02:07 PM

I could see how the glasses would give people the impression that he's kissing MJ.

I was actually referring to the long hair and how it seemed to be tinted red. The glasses were the thing that showed it WASN'T MJ Peter was locking lips with.

RDMacQ

01-21-2010, 02:09 PM

Let's hope thats not the case. I don't want to see a rehash of old events. Deb has no self confidence and we don't need a new version of her. That would even go with whoever mentioned the short hair.

I can't stand the short hair though. We will see.

I also can never tell if Peter is even interested in Carlie or not.

I think the creators are going to move Peter and Carlie closer together. But I don't really see a lot of chemistry between the two. Carlie may seem more tailored to be a better match for Peter, but that doesn't mean that their relationship will be all that interesting or dynamic.

whiteshark

01-21-2010, 02:20 PM

oh, i never followed spectacular much, i though the robotic silvermane was from the 90s cartoon.

You missed some great stories in Spectacular Spider-Man.
I can not recomend enough the phase in Spectacular Spider-Man writen by Bill Mantlo and drawned by Al Milgron.
The stories had lots of new developments and were full of creativity.
Punisher was put back in the stories,a gang war between Doc Octopus and the Owl hapened,the relationship of Spider-Man and Black Cat had the best stories in this title,Kingpin was a constant enemy to Spider-Man,Cloak & Dagger were created in those stories and Spot had his first apearence in that title as well.
A great time of the Spider-Man comics.

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 03:15 PM

I think the creators are going to move Peter and Carlie closer together. But I don't really see a lot of chemistry between the two. Carlie may seem more tailored to be a better match for Peter, but that doesn't mean that their relationship will be all that interesting or dynamic.

They're both very smart, both somewhat anti-social, both have lost loved ones, both go through life trying to live up to the memories of the deceased, forever in their shadows in one way or another, but Carlie's clearly a lot more neat and organized as per the requirements of her profession, while Peter is probably a little more on the messy side because he's just too busy juggling two identities and trying to find time to sleep to be tidy. There's similarities, but also enough differences to work off of.

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 03:16 PM

modern, where the hell have you been in the 60-70s ? i was still in my dad's scrotum, but i watched jennie and i know where that comes from.

Retro-modern. Which is very much Martin's style anyway.

RDMacQ

01-21-2010, 03:19 PM

They're both very smart, both somewhat anti-social, both have lost loved ones, both go through life trying to live up to the memories of the deceased, forever in their shadows in one way or another, but Carlie's clearly a lot more neat and organized as per the requirements of her profession, while Peter is probably a little more on the messy side because he's just too busy juggling two identities and trying to find time to sleep to be tidy. There's similarities, but also enough differences to work off of.

On paper, sure Peter and Carlie seem to be a good match. But on paper, Peter and MJ don't seem to be a good match, yet their relationship has lasted far longer than anyone anticipated. Part of the problem with tailor making a character to be a "perfect fit" is that it tends to remove all sense of drama from the situation. The Peter/ MJ relationship was interesting partly because it was the LAST thing people would expect to happen.

CyberHubbs

01-21-2010, 03:27 PM

On paper, sure Peter and Carlie seem to be a good match. But on paper, Peter and MJ don't seem to be a good match, yet their relationship has lasted far longer than anyone anticipated. Part of the problem with tailor making a character to be a "perfect fit" is that it tends to remove all sense of drama from the situation. The Peter/ MJ relationship was interesting partly because it was the LAST thing people would expect to happen.

I don't think Carlie and Peter are perfectly tailored for each other. She's a lot more responsible than he is, and she works within the boundaries of the law. Peter does not. There's just some aspects of their characters that do mesh well, though.

I don't know if MJ and Peter getting together was the 'last thing' anyone expected. I mean, it was pretty apparent from the moment they met. Her being popular just meant that she was destined for a larger role in the comic, and for a female you don't get much bigger a role than the protagonist's girlfriend/wife.

Schmed

01-21-2010, 04:00 PM

You missed some great stories in Spectacular Spider-Man.
I can not recomend enough the phase in Spectacular Spider-Man writen by Bill Mantlo and drawned by Al Milgron.
The stories had lots of new developments and were full of creativity.
Punisher was put back in the stories,a gang war between Doc Octopus and the Owl hapened,the relationship of Spider-Man and Black Cat had the best stories in this title,Kingpin was a constant enemy to Spider-Man,Cloak & Dagger were created in those stories and Spot had his first apearence in that title as well.
A great time of the Spider-Man comics.

Yeah, not to thread drift too much, but that was a great era for Spec Spider-Man, that title was doing so well that they let the Hobgoblin Saga spill into it in issue #85 even!

Combustible Pumpkins

01-21-2010, 04:31 PM

Allthough Silvermane drank a potion that made him grow younger without stoping in ASM#74,he did got better and returned as a villain in the Spectacular Spider-Man title.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/20130-2870-22459-1-spectacular-spider-m_super.jpg

God, do I love that old series!

Retro-modern. Which is very much Martin's style anyway.

Totally, I really dig it, this issue isn't as visually captivating as his earlier stuff, but I definitely still like it.

What a cool issue though with the supporting cast receiving interesting spot lights (i.e. Nega-May, Carlie's dad resurrected, and Hammerhead caught between allegiances)

I'd give this issue a solid A! (I think I enjoyed this script even more then Slott's 600)

RDMacQ

01-21-2010, 05:05 PM

I don't think Carlie and Peter are perfectly tailored for each other. She's a lot more responsible than he is, and she works within the boundaries of the law. Peter does not. There's just some aspects of their characters that do mesh well, though.

I don't know if MJ and Peter getting together was the 'last thing' anyone expected. I mean, it was pretty apparent from the moment they met. Her being popular just meant that she was destined for a larger role in the comic, and for a female you don't get much bigger a role than the protagonist's girlfriend/wife.

I just don't find anything interesting about their potential relationship. With all of Spidey's relationships, you are bound to get the "I can't be with them because of ______" excuses popping up which eventually puts the brakes on the relationship. Now, while this pops up in Peter and MJ's relationship, the unique aspect of it comes from the fact that it is MJ who is the one who has the problems with being in a serious relationship with someone else due to her trust issues. Which I appreciate since it seems like a legitimate issue and not some contrivance like it was with Deb Whitman (smart girl who can't put 2 and 2 together and goes nuts because of it). With Carlie, because she and Peter seem like such a compatible match, I'm doubting that the issue that eventually will tear them apart will be anything legitimate and will be yet another contrivance to keep Spider-Man in neutral and the status quo intact.

spiderman_rj

01-21-2010, 05:18 PM

RDMacQ

01-21-2010, 05:21 PM

well carlie is a investigator, maybe she will find out his true identity (can't be that hard if even crazy deb figured it out) and MARRY him, while acepting his double life, then she'll worry by the window for 25 years and be casted aside in another reboot :D

Or, the Green Goblin or Doc Ock or Venom will come by and off Carlier in front of Spider-Man. Y'know, to step up his game and infuriate Peter. It would be easy too, since Carlie isn't present in any other media and killing her off wouldn't interfere with any other presentation of Spider-Man. And because of that, MJ could come to comfort Peter in his loss, they get closer, rekindle their relationship, and renew their vows and restart their marriage. That's also an option.

StoneGold

01-21-2010, 05:44 PM

I've got a feeling we're about to see just how "damaged goods" Carlie really is. The father thing... this is going to end with her being less boring.

spiderman_rj

01-21-2010, 06:56 PM

Or, the Green Goblin or Doc Ock or Venom will come by and off Carlier in front of Spider-Man. Y'know, to step up his game and infuriate Peter. It would be easy too, since Carlie isn't present in any other media and killing her off wouldn't interfere with any other presentation of Spider-Man. And because of that, MJ could come to comfort Peter in his loss, they get closer, rekindle their relationship, and renew their vows and restart their marriage. That's also an option.

you are so predictible, i just messed with you, you fell for it and spon it to bring mj back,we get it, you love her.

Jim Thompson

01-21-2010, 06:58 PM

I've got a feeling we're about to see just how "damaged goods" Carlie really is. The father thing... this is going to end with her being less boring.Carlie will be revealed to be Deb Whitman in disguise. :biggrin:

bulletproofsponge

01-21-2010, 08:13 PM

hey guys, I just did my review on the issue here.

http://www.spidermanreviews.com/2010/01/amazing-spider-man-618.html

This issue is full of the unexpected, including the lack of Mysterio. So, how much do we know about Carlie's father. For some reason, I am unable to recall ever seeing Mr. Cooper in the ASM comics. Does anyone know anything? Was it revealed in the past that he may have been involved with the gang?
As far as Aunt May turning Negative, I am personally convinced that it is no big deal. After all, Spider-Man has turned Negative before as well.

Ps. Please God, Don't put Carlie and Peter together.

Andrew T

01-21-2010, 08:20 PM

Another great issue. Except for Carlie's hair cut. I had that same part in the fifth grade. Still, I'm willing to let it slide until someone with a more hyper-real style like McNiven or Checchetto (? The guy who drew Michelle with those orange undies. I like that guy) takes a crack at her and adds a little style to it.

Mysterio looks badass in a back-to-basics kind of way.

I'm rooting for Carlie here, so I'm hoping this story makes me like her rather than her just being the least worst choice as far as potential romantic partners go.

Has it been revealed how Carlie's dad bit the dust? I'm assuming he was tied into the Maggia somehow since Mysterio seemed to have that illusion (if that's what it was) on hand.

Edit: And apparently the Spidey crew is blowing their collective wad early next issue.

NewComicSmell

01-21-2010, 09:43 PM

peter ka-noodling with JJ Jameseon... lame

peter asking out the other girl like a regular Archie... lame

Me Negative having multipal personalities .... lame

Besides them, it was a nice comic.

RDMacQ

01-21-2010, 09:50 PM

HaroldAllnut

01-21-2010, 09:51 PM

Mysterio looks badass in a back-to-basics kind of way.

I quite liked his little pun. It was pretty entertaining.

Chris S.

01-21-2010, 10:12 PM

How so, if I may ask?

Thats the caption at the end of the issue. I thought it was an odd choice of words. I commented on it back in the begining but no one ever picked up on it.

Mr. NickerNacker

01-22-2010, 01:41 AM

Great issue, really enjoyed Martin's artwork.

Some questions though. Silvermane calls out the name Joseph twice in the issue after saying the name Hammerhead, once in the flashback at the beginning of the issue and then towards the end in the meatpacking place. Is this Hamerhead's first name? Has this ever been revealed before? I know Silvermane has a son named Joseph, who I thought Silvio was referring to in the flashback, but then he calls out the name again at the meatpacking place, which means if this Joseph is his son then he must be working for Mr. Negative too?

Methalius

01-22-2010, 08:14 AM

And one more hurrah for Marcos Martin's art.:biggrin:

The second great issue in a row in my opinion. I enjoyed Martin's art. Kind of simplistic and old school but I like it. I'm looking forward to next week's issue.

rocky123

01-22-2010, 08:49 AM

Solid issue. I know I'm in the minority here but I'm not a huge fan of Martin's art. I also like Carlie and hope she and Pete get to hook up at some point but to be honest I like Michelle and Norah as well and who doesn't like Black Cat. If I was Pete I'd be a regular man-whore :evilsmile: . I actually though Mr. Negative's attempt at an excuse was pretty cool and showed he could think on his feet. He knew the demon would get back up momentarily and how many excuses could you really come up with in that situation? I was surprised that Pete took what May said the way he did. Not in the sense of being hurt because anyone would be but in the sense that he just ran away crushed. He knows that is as far from May's personality as you could possibly get to the extent that he should have at least had an inkling that something was not right about her.

Combustible Pumpkins

01-22-2010, 11:43 AM

Solid issue. I know I'm in the minority here but I'm not a huge fan of Martin's art.

Really? I thought a lot of folks were lovin' his stuff. I know I do.

keilthetarheel

01-22-2010, 11:48 AM

Old Spidey fan. He will always be my favorite comic book character. Haven’t read Amazing for several months – picked up 618 and gave it a fair try. My best description is something I’ve heard others say – this is Spider-Archie, nothing less. Astounding that this is what Marvel is sticking with with their flagship character

Glad some people are enjoying it – but I was cringing at some of the Spider-Archie stuff in this issue

StoneGold

01-22-2010, 12:20 PM

ShaggyB

01-22-2010, 12:27 PM

StoneGold

01-22-2010, 12:32 PM

and what was archie about it? I didnt see anything that peter hasnt done before in the book... nor did i find anything that made him look moronic or laughable... so do tell.

There was the part of the book where he formed a band with Jughead.

stephen wacker

01-22-2010, 12:35 PM

Has anyone found the Mr. Weatherbee we hid in a previous issue?

-Moose

StoneGold

01-22-2010, 12:44 PM

Has anyone found the Mr. Weatherbee we hid in a previous issue?

-Moose

I know you work for Disney now, and they don't follow copyright laws, they write them, but Archie's litigious in their own right. Don't mess with Waffle Hair.

RDMacQ

01-22-2010, 12:59 PM

Has anyone found the Mr. Weatherbee we hid in a previous issue?

-Moose

So, does this mean if we draw attention to the problem that means we don't have to do anything to correct that perception?

-Jughead

ShaggyB

01-22-2010, 01:02 PM

So, what, if you call attention to the problem that means you don't have to do anything to correct that perception?

-Jughead

if the perception is based on stuff not in the book.... then yeah i think he can tease and walk away

Sano

01-22-2010, 01:10 PM

Even though I tend to only read Amazing Spider-Man whenever Slott writes the book (sorry, just not a big fan of the other ASM writers) I found myself enjoying this one.

So far nothing contradicts Mysterio's last appearance in Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man but nothing strongly supports it either. It will be interesting to see how this story plays out.

I do hope that Slott makes a nod to the FNSM story. He's pretty good with Spidey lore so chances are he will. :smile:

rocky123

01-22-2010, 07:20 PM

Really? I thought a lot of folks were lovin' his stuff. I know I do.

Oh yeah lots of Marcos Martin love here, that's why I said I knew I was in the minority. I guess I like newer style artists like Bagley,McNiven and Deodato whereas Martin obviously has an old school feel to his stuff ala Ditko. That being said my favorite all time Spidey artist is still, and may well always will be, John Romita Sr.

Chris S.

01-22-2010, 10:59 PM

Has anyone found the Mr. Weatherbee we hid in a previous issue?

-Moose

The sad things is I had to google images of Mr Weatherbee to figure out who he was. So no I didn't notice him.

Oh and I'm not sure if that is sad or not.

Andrew T

01-23-2010, 02:04 AM

I quite liked his little pun. It was pretty entertaining.

"Beck" from the dead? I liked it.

No telling how long he's been sitting on that one.

Mark_Parnell

01-25-2010, 12:51 PM

So Peter sold his soul and his marriage and in return he gets a withered old bag who tells him that he is a shmuck and who is getting more action in the bedroom (scary image) than he is. What a crappy deal.

Having said that, Congress should pass a law that makes it illegal for anyone other than Marcos Martin to draw Spiderman (yeah I know he lives in Spain)

Jim Thompson

01-25-2010, 12:55 PM

So Peter sold his soul and his marriage and in return he gets a withered old bag who tells him that he is a shmuck and who is getting more action in the bedroom (scary image) than he is. What a crappy deal. Actually, I thought the best part of the book was May finally telling Peter off. Under the influence or not, that was some truth she laid down on him! :biggrin:

CyberHubbs

01-25-2010, 01:00 PM

I don't know how truthful it was, even said outside the context of his dual identities, considering how often Peter saves people on a daily basis. He might not be the most successful guy in the world under the mask, but he does fight the good fight at the end of the day.

Every hero has to pay some kind of price.

Hindsight lad

01-25-2010, 03:23 PM

Hey Spiderfiles, has the Silvermane death sequence shown in this issue been depicted anywhere else or did Slott invent it? The last I remember seeing of Silvermane was in the Underworld mini and he was pretty far gone, confined to his bed.

I really loved the connections and payoffs in this arc. Slott is finally building on plot points he cultivated in his first BND arc. I hope the outcome is worth the wait.

Hindsight lad

RDMacQ

01-25-2010, 03:27 PM

Actually, I thought the best part of the book was May finally telling Peter off. Under the influence or not, that was some truth she laid down on him! :biggrin:

Hopefully it is something that actually gets followed up upon and has some lasting ramifications instead of just being ignored and swept under the rug.

CyberHubbs

01-25-2010, 03:31 PM

With the current hacks -- I'm looking at you, Mark 'Kingdom Come' Waid! -- you can't be too sure.

RDMacQ

01-25-2010, 03:34 PM

With the current hacks -- I'm looking at you, Mark 'Kingdom Come' Waid! -- you can't be too sure.

You mock, but this might be one of those things that gets dropped for four or five arcs before being addressed again.

CyberHubbs

01-25-2010, 03:38 PM

You mock, but this might be one of those things that gets dropped for four or five arcs before being addressed again.

I'm sure we'll see more of Anti-May very soon. Wacker did also say that Peter would be getting a new job sometime this year, and not as a photographer. I can't remember the exact quote, but I swear it was something science related.

RDMacQ

01-25-2010, 03:40 PM

I'm sure we'll see more of Anti-May very soon. Wacker did also say that Peter would be getting a new job sometime this year, and not as a photographer. I can't remember the exact quote, but I swear it was something science related.

He's becoming Batman?

CyberHubbs

01-25-2010, 03:43 PM

He's becoming Batman?

He's been working out the kinks in his gravelly voice.

Jim Thompson

01-25-2010, 04:47 PM

RDMacQ

01-25-2010, 06:17 PM

He is going back to work for the corporation he was working for during the Mackie run. :biggrin:

I think the Mackie run no longer happened. Either that, or it will never be referenced ever again.

Jim Thompson

01-25-2010, 06:35 PM

I think the Mackie run no longer happened. Either that, or it will never be referenced ever again.Oh it happened, because everything that has happened during the marriage years happened just the way it was written in the books -- except for the stuff that didn't.

Sorry -- couldn't resist that one! :redface:

RDMacQ

01-25-2010, 06:40 PM

Oh it happened, because everything that has happened during the marriage years happened just the way it was written in the books -- except for the stuff that didn't.

Sorry -- couldn't resist that one! :redface:

Maybe it's that "one more thing" that supposedly changed and was vaguely referred to months back and has yet to be referenced in any way shape or form in the comics themselves.

yadadaimhollaing

02-06-2010, 08:12 PM

Im just about to read this arc but could someone remind me who the identity of the origional mysterio is and who the second mysterio was? Its been so long since ive read a mysterio arc.

Chris S.

02-06-2010, 08:26 PM

Im just about to read this arc but could someone remind me who the identity of the origional mysterio is and who the second mysterio was? Its been so long since ive read a mysterio arc.

Quentin Beck was the first Mysterio. He died...then who did take over.... Did we ever know? I honestly don't think we did ever find out.

Mysterio's Helmet

02-06-2010, 08:56 PM

Daniel Berkhart is Mysterio II.

Francis Clum is Mysterio III and a guy who can teleport.

Hope that helps. Probably on Marvel.com or wiki.

whiteshark

02-18-2010, 05:46 AM

I have read recently ASM#618 and must say it was a great read.

From the writing to the art it was just what i expect as a cool Spider-Man story.

Marcos Martin shows again why he is one of the best new artist to apear in the Spider-Man stories since the new direction started (and probably one of the est artist working for Marvel now).
His double page showing Spider-Man fighting a bunch of Mr Negative henchmens and Hammerhead in a Casino is a clear example of that.
Or the layout of the page showing Aunt May reaction to find Mr Negative dealing with one of his henchmen.
And his illustrations show a great quality in storytelling.
And he drawns Spider-Man just right.
The many villains that apeared in this issue (as Mysterio,Hammerhead,robotic Silverman,Mr Negative,and Mr Negative Inner Demons) were drawned at top quality.
The colouring by Javier Rodriguez was just perfect,Mr Negative colouring is a clear example of how well the colouring was done across all the story.
And so far i am just talking about the art.
Now lets move forward to the story itself,(Which to be honest even if ths story was writen by a bad writer i would still enjoy the story thanks to the art i guess:biggrin:)
But no,this story was writen by Dan Slott,one of my favorite writers in ASM right now.And with this story showed again why he is one of the best writers working for Marvel.
Because only the first issue of this three story chapter estabilished the return of Maggia to the stories,the definitive development of Mr Negative trying to get control of the crime,a flashback of Hammerhead working for Maggia and having Silverman as his boss,Mysterio working behind the "courtains" to help Maggia and so many things more.
Spider-Man is showed in great scenes being fighting Hammerhead and Mr Negative Inner Demons (which are Mr Negative henchmens),web slinging through the city to try to forget what Aunt May told him,or as Peter Parker in a funny scene driving a car with little experience with Aunt May and J.J.J.Sr in panic in the back seat.

So a great start for what i think will be a great storyline in the Gauntlet.

Which could not get less that a 10/10 due to much i enjoyed the story.