Guy Gardner Vs Hal Jordan

[Holacik]

Guy Gardner
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Vs
Hal Jordan
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Guy has both Red and Green rings, can he finally beat the greatest Green Lantern?

[Holy Spirit]

Not to familar with either one but going by there reputation's as lanturns then I will say Hal?

What does the red ring add to Guy?

[Omegalith]

Man, I'd love to say Guy just because he's the better character, but he already has less feats and replacing part of his higher reasoning centres with a propensity for vomiting boiling blood isn't really a boon in this fight.

[Holacik]

Man, I'd love to say Guy just because he's the better character, but he already has less feats and replacing part of his higher reasoning centres with a propensity for vomiting boiling blood isn't really a boon in this fight.

Did you read the comic when Guy got the red ring? He's already done more construct wise with the rings then most red lanterns, and he was able to keep his focus on the black lanterns, and he curbstomped Kryb. Remember Red burns through Green...

[Holy Spirit]

Did you read the comic when Guy got the red ring? He's already done more construct wise with the rings then most red lanterns, and he was able to keep his focus on the black lanterns, and he curbstomped Kryb. Remember Red burns through Green...

Wow, in that case Guy should dominate with no problem. :cool:

[Omegalith]

Did you read the comic when Guy got the red ring? He's already done more construct wise with the rings then most red lanterns, and he was able to keep his focus on the black lanterns, and he curbstomped Kryb. Remember Red burns through Green...

I know he can still make constructs, I'm just saying that dialing his hot-headedness up to 15 is more of a hinderance than a help.

[Holacik]

Wow, in that case Guy should dominate with no problem. :cool:

Well, I wouldn't say that Hal Jordan is still Hal Jordan, he's still verstile, and has rumbled with Red Lanterns before.

[Holacik]

I know he can still make constructs, I'm just saying that dialing his hot-headedness up to 15 is more of a hiderance than a help.

He tends to fight that way anyway, he typically fights with his fist and not with his brains. I actually think it's a good fit especially if he can hang on to both rings...

[Holy Spirit]

Well, I wouldn't say that Hal Jordan is still Hal Jordan, he's still verstile, and has rumbled with Red Lanterns before.
You said he has both red and green rings and red burns through green which is the only color Hal has..... add to that the fact that he can still use constructs plus the fact that he is able to focus unlike most red lanterns. I see no reason why he couldn't do the whole sword (red) and shield (green) style with his rings?

I am basing this off of what you said by the way

[Aubergine~!]

Well, I wouldn't say that Hal Jordan is still Hal Jordan, he's still verstile, and has rumbled with Red Lanterns before.

Don't red rings drain the hell out of GL rings?

Think Guy takes this.

[Omegalith]

I actually think it's a good fit especially if he can hang on to both rings...

Not really, the red rings are shown to be rather horrible things what with replacing your blood with their burning energy and overwriting your personality by constantly reinforcing the pain and greif that drew it to you. The only way it would work long-term is by turning him into a 90's anti-hero, which would be a complete step backwards from the improved characterisation he's had since the reboot.

[Holacik]

Don't red rings drain the hell out of GL rings?


Not exactly they burn through constructs and can burn willpower away from ring slingers, but Hal can still dodge.

[KJ Stewart]

Don't red rings drain the hell out of GL rings?

Think Guy takes this.

Don't drain them as such, but the blood cuts through the shielding like tissue.

[Holacik]

Not really, the red rings are shown to be rather horrible things what with replacing your blood with their burning energy and overwriting your personality by constantly reinforcing the pain and greif that drew it to you. The only way it would work long-term is by turning him into a 90's anti-hero, which would be a complete step backwards from the improved characterisation he's had since the reboot.

I see what your saying, I just like seeing him kick all kinds of ass :evilsmile:

[Omegalith]

Anywho, looks like I clearly underestimated the Red Rings and forgot their advantages. I still don't really get them entirely though: When I'm angry I want to charge up to things and tear them apart with my bare hands, not stop short and puke blood on them.

[Daemon]

So you're saying that the red ring is powered by blood?

thats a bit gruesome...

[KJ Stewart]

So you're saying that the red ring is powered by blood?

thats a bit gruesome...

Powered by rage, the blood is just a consequence.

[Omegalith]

Actually it makes you puke all the blood from your body and replaces it with the burning red energy of rage, which is pumped through you by the ring with a loud pounding and maddening beat.

Most Red Lanterns lack the focus to make constucts, and instead vomit some of their replacement blood to deadly-but-unsubtle effect. Having a Green ring you can use on too seems to let you shape the rage into precision tools, such as chain-whips or crashing planes. Admittedly still more anvil than scalpel, but it's a pretty strong improvement.

[Daemon]

So what happens to their blood? Is it gone for good in that if a red ring user is separated from his ring he would just keel over?

[Omegalith]

So what happens to their blood? Is it gone for good in that if a red ring user is separated from his ring he would just keel over?

Hal Jordan recovered, but a Blue ring was used to fix him up.

On the bright side, it makes the user immune to the Black Lantern's usual mode of attack, which is to inspire you to an intense emotional state then rip your heart out.

[Matt]

A Red Lantern dies if separated from his ring but getting them apart is not easy. The ring replaces the wearers heart, as we saw when a Black Lantern tore out Atrocius's.

The only way to become restored is via the powers of a Blue Lantern, as we saw when Hal Jordan was a Red Lantern for a short time.

[Omegalith]

The only way to become restored is via the powers of a Blue Lantern, as we saw when Hal Jordan was a Red Lantern for a short time.

Well, if you had nine pints of compatable blood on hand you might be able to work some kind of transfusion out, the heart is still kept as alive as any other bodypart despite being unused after all.

[Aubergine~!]

The Red Lanterns managed to drain Hal's ring dry in a matter of seconds on Ysmault, so I do think they're capable of ring draining.

Not saying Guy would drain them so quickly, but they have displayed the ability.

Green Lantern #37

[Holy Spirit]

Well, if you had nine pints of compatable blood on hand you might be able to work some kind of transfusion out, the heart is still kept as alive as any other bodypart despite being unused after all.

I think it actually replaces your blood with red rage energy though, which is why you die without he ring, I don't like that but..... well........ that's how it is.

[Omegalith]

I think it actually replaces your blood with red rage energy.

I did say that myself Y'know.

My suggestion is that if Soranik Natu or some other fancy sci-fi doctor had a full body's worth of donor blood ready they might be able to implant it before you croak completely.

[Holy Spirit]

I did say that myself Y'know.

My suggestion is that if Soranik Natu or some other fancy sci-fi doctor had a full body's worth of donor blood ready they might be able to implant it before you croak completely.

Sounds good to me, I just hate that that's how the red ring works in the first place.

[TonyStark1012]

Guy would win not only because of the combined might of the green and red ring,but guy would do what ever it takes to beat hal and there's just somethings hal won't do.:smile:

[fudgekp]

you know, I think Guy might take this.

He's going to be charging at hal at full lantern speed, creating green and red constructs to crush and tear him apart while charging Hal, AND he'll be vomiting red lantern goop.

It's a lotta attacks to contend with - especially since Hal doesn't have any speed advantages against Guy.

[KnockBlock]

Powered by rage, the blood is just a consequence.

In result of the rage? What a downside the red lantern has.

[JCAll]

They made Guy Gardner's hair worse?
Damn, it's days like this I miss Ted Kord.

[aut0matic]

Hal Jordan is still Hal Jordan

this. hal ftw 7/10.

[dupersuper]

Guy would win not only because of the combined might of the green and red ring,but guy would do what ever it takes to beat hal and there's just somethings hal won't do.:smile:

As seen in GL 25 in the early 90's when Guy hit him in the groin. Though Hal won that 1. Though Guy obviously didn't have a red ring at the time.