Bullets of Depowering +9999

[mailedbypostman1]

All regular bullets in fiction become these bullets. Said bullets will be specifically designed to depower the opponent the user intends to hit, whether or not they actually have them in their sights, and will home into the target, curving to avoid people/innocents but going through any nonliving obstacles and also adjusting speed to hit the target, i.e., a bullet fired at spiderman will be in the multiple machs for speed, a bullet fired at Flash will be Zoom II fast, etc. These bullets also ignore durability of the target and if the target is powered by an external source, the target will be cut off from any means of reaccessing the power source.. Finally, nobody knows that the bullets have been redesigned. What happens?

[Sharpandpointies]

In the fictional universes with bullets, everyone dies, pretty quickly. There are no more heroes. No more 'villains'. Just a bunch of thugs with guns, all of them hoping to get the first shot off in any confrontation.

[Omegalith]

This is pretty much giving everyone with access to a gun the Omega effect. Not with the retroactive aspect admittedly, but pretty much.

Advantages like being the Flash only matter if you use them to stay quiet and avoid drawing attention to yourself, striking from the shadows with the worlds fastest trigger finger. Given how public and colorful most capes are, not many are going to make it into the new generation of metahumans, who will likely be dealing with a lot worse than most comic book dystopias.

[mailedbypostman1]

Advantages like being the Flash only matter if you use them to stay quiet and avoid drawing attention to yourself, striking from the shadows with the worlds fastest trigger finger. Given how public and colorful most capes are, not many are going to make it into the new generation of metahumans, who will likely be dealing with a lot worse than most comic book dystopias.

What about people like Batman?

[cosmic eagle]

What about people like Batman?

He becomes extremely stupid and stands there I guess the moment someone pulls a gun on him....so he dies...

[mailedbypostman1]

He becomes extremely stupid and stands there I guess the moment someone pulls a gun on him....so he dies...

"Who the hell do you think I am?! I'm the goddamn Bat"-BANG!

[Surtur]

Advantages like being the Flash only matter if you use them to stay quiet and avoid drawing attention to yourself, striking from the shadows with the worlds fastest trigger finger.

Eh, he could use it for more than that. First of all he's more than fast enough to tag 99.9% of people before they even fire off a thought let alone fire a gun. He also can speed steal, which just makes it even easier. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he could gather up every regular bullet on the planet and put them at the bottom of the ocean or something.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Eh, he could use it for more than that. First of all he's more than fast enough to tag 99.9% of people before they even fire off a thought let alone fire a gun. He also can speed steal, which just makes it even easier. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he could gather up every regular bullet on the planet and put them at the bottom of the ocean or something....Man, I can't imagine that Aquaman would be happy to hear about that.

[cosmic eagle]

Eh, he could use it for more than that. First of all he's more than fast enough to tag 99.9% of people before they even fire off a thought let alone fire a gun. He also can speed steal, which just makes it even easier. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he could gather up every regular bullet on the planet and put them at the bottom of the ocean or something.

Of course, if a sniper shoots him......He doesn't have precognition does he?

[Omegalith]

Of course, if a sniper shoots him......He doesn't have precognition does he?

Precicley. I know he can do more, it's the bloody speedforce fer cripes sake. However as soon as he makes a name for himself someone'll want to take him down and he's gunna die.

Thus in the long term we come straight back to: "stay quiet and avoid drawing attention to yourself, striking from the shadows with the worlds fastest trigger finger." As the only viable option.

[oldsmokey]

All regular bullets in fiction become these bullets. Said bullets will be specifically designed to depower the opponent the user intends to hit, whether or not they actually have them in their sights, and will home into the target, curving to avoid people/innocents but going through any nonliving obstacles and also adjusting speed to hit the target, i.e., a bullet fired at spiderman will be in the multiple machs for speed, a bullet fired at Flash will be Zoom II fast, etc. These bullets also ignore durability of the target and if the target is powered by an external source, the target will be cut off from any means of reaccessing the power source.. Finally, nobody knows that the bullets have been redesigned. What happens?

Interesting problem. Once the bullet leaves the gun, Flash is as dead as the next guy. And by the OP's rules, someone on the other side of the planet can pull the trigger without Flash even being aware.

[Surtur]

Of course, if a sniper shoots him......He doesn't have precognition does he?

The problem is with his own speed and the ability to speed steal there isn't going to be a single sniper able to get a shot off.

Sure Flash doesn't have precognition, but neither does your random sniper. Why would someone just think "I wanna shoot the flash" and then shoot in a random direction? Remember, nobody is aware of the change in bullets, and by the time they figure it out it'd be too late. Not to mention said person would never even know Flash was nearby as he'd be moving too fast for anyone to keep up with.

So really..anyone on DC earth is saved thanks to the Flash being able to gather up every bullet on the planet before any have been fired off. The people who really need to worry are the people like Superman who are known on many planets, since even Flash couldn't prevent someone on the other side of the galaxy from going "I want to shoot Superman" and firing off a gun. I suppose that most other worlds wouldn't contain regular bullets anyways, but I'm sure at least a few besides Earth do.

[oldsmokey]

The problem is with his own speed and the ability to speed steal there isn't going to be a single sniper able to get a shot off.

Sure Flash doesn't have precognition, but neither does your random sniper. Why would someone just think "I wanna shoot the flash" and then shoot in a random direction? Remember, nobody is aware of the change in bullets, and by the time they figure it out it'd be too late. Not to mention said person would never even know Flash was nearby as he'd be moving too fast for anyone to keep up with.

So you're saying he can gather up every gun on Earth before someone figures out how guns now work? I don't think so. And Flash doesn't know how these new bullets work either. So why would he even bother, until it's too late? All it takes is one person who wants to kill him anywhere on Earth squeezing the trigger. Once the bullet leaves the gun Flash is dead.

Admittedly it's a weird scenario. If the OP hadn't put in that bit about the shooter not needing to see the target, or put a cap on how far away the shooter could be, I'd agree with you.

I think a high-end precog would be in a better position. They could see who would want to kill them in the future, fire off a round while thinking about that person, and they're good.

[Surtur]

So you're saying he can gather up every gun on Earth before someone figures out how guns now work?

Most likely, remember not only can Flash move at massively FTL speeds, he can steal your speed to the point where it takes you a century to blink.



I don't think so. All it takes is one person who wants to kill him anywhere on Earth squeezing the trigger. Once the bullet leaves the gun Flash is dead.

Here's the thing, your average super villain doesn't carry around a gun with regular bullets, nor does your average thug wielding a gun randomly just think about popping the Flash. So people not only need enough time to figure out exactly how these bullets work, but then we need someone who would specifically try to kill the Flash. All that is going to take several minutes at least, which is more than enough time for Flash to run around the planet, stealing speed, slowing everyone down, amping himself up. Then once everyone is slowed down, he gathers up the bullets and puts them somewhere.


Admittedly it's a weird scenario. If the OP hadn't put in that bit about the shooter not needing to see the target, or put a cap on how far away the shooter could be, I'd agree with you.

Again though, how many people wielding guns with regular bullets are going to automatically try to kill the Flash? He has some time.

[cosmic eagle]

The problem is with his own speed and the ability to speed steal there isn't going to be a single sniper able to get a shot off.

Sure Flash doesn't have precognition, but neither does your random sniper. Why would someone just think "I wanna shoot the flash" and then shoot in a random direction? Remember, nobody is aware of the change in bullets, and by the time they figure it out it'd be too late. Not to mention said person would never even know Flash was nearby as he'd be moving too fast for anyone to keep up with.

So really..anyone on DC earth is saved thanks to the Flash being able to gather up every bullet on the planet before any have been fired off. The people who really need to worry are the people like Superman who are known on many planets, since even Flash couldn't prevent someone on the other side of the galaxy from going "I want to shoot Superman" and firing off a gun. I suppose that most other worlds wouldn't contain regular bullets anyways, but I'm sure at least a few besides Earth do.

I mean a random crook decides to shoot him with a sniper rifle. Part of some comic book fodder mob boss attempt to off him or something. Unless Flash has exceptional senses why will he know someone's going to shoot him or even aiming at him? Once the trigger is pulled, he dies.

[Surtur]

I mean a random crook decides to shoot him with a sniper rifle. Part of some comic book fodder mob boss attempt to off him or something. Unless Flash has exceptional senses why will he know someone's going to shoot him or even aiming at him? Once the trigger is pulled, he dies.

Again, how is this crook/mob boss going to figure out how these bullets work before Flash steals their speed? Moving at lightspeed alone can allow you to circle the globe 7-8 times in a single second. He's moving at speeds vastly faster while at the same time stealing everyone's speed and adding it to his own speed.

Hell if he really wants to he could just run back in time and warn the JLA what's going on. Flash is one of the worst people to be going against in this situation since if he chooses to he could neutralize pretty much every normal person on the planet before they realize what's even happened. Sure a few other JLA members could probably accomplish something similar, but it'd most likely involve mass destruction and since they aren't at Flashes level of speed there's still the chance someone might get a shot off.

[cosmic eagle]

Again, how is this crook/mob boss going to figure out how these bullets work before Flash steals their speed? Moving at lightspeed alone can allow you to circle the globe 7-8 times in a single second. He's moving at speeds vastly faster while at the same time stealing everyone's speed and adding it to his own speed.

Hell if he really wants to he could just run back in time and warn the JLA what's going on. Flash is one of the worst people to be going against in this situation since if he chooses to he could neutralize pretty much every normal person on the planet before they realize what's even happened. Sure a few other JLA members could probably accomplish something similar, but it'd most likely involve mass destruction and since they aren't at Flashes level of speed there's still the chance someone might get a shot off.

Wasn't there a comic where he simply moves out the way when a bullet touches him? It won't happen here. The shooter doesn't have to know his bullets are different. Despite being seriously outclassed it doesn't stop nameless robbers and the like from taking on Flash now does it...

[Becoming An Anthropologist]

Superman could just heat vaporize any bullet fired at him.
Superman would still be able to hear the shooters or the special bullets coming his way. Likewise, I think Superman would probably be the first of most heroes to get targeted by some random person's thoughts. In the end, Superman either takes down the bullet and than using his hearing to trace back to where it was fired and the good guys figured things out, or Superman is killed and Batman figures things out. Either way, a new arc where Metron eventually shows up begins eventually. Alternatively, some other god shows up because they feel threatened by these cosmics bullets.:smile:

[mailedbypostman1]

Superman could just heat vaporize any bullet fired at him.

Since when does Superman do that? This is a scenario, remember. I think he'd be the first victim. He's just going to stand there and the bullet is going to pass right through his chest.