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foxbox360
12-17-2009, 11:15 AM
http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/126106077479797.htm- I just found it minutes ago :smile:
tassa_kay
12-17-2009, 11:19 AM
... so Rulk *isn't* Ross? He isn't Samson? Who the hell is he, then?

Talbot just seems like a cop-out answer, especially since he hasn't been mentioned once, by either writer, since Rulk debuted.
W.Y.B.A.
12-17-2009, 01:31 PM
Ross is Rulk and is faking his own death I reckon. He's orchestrated the whole fight with a LMD in the redeemer armour to put people off the scent.
tassa_kay
12-17-2009, 01:58 PM
Ross is Rulk and is faking his own death I reckon. He's orchestrated the whole fight with a LMD in the redeemer armour to put people off the scent.

That makes a lot of sense.
CyberCoyote
12-17-2009, 02:30 PM
gotta take that '-' out after 'htm' to get to the right page.

That make sense to me, also, BUT.. isn't the whole appeal of Rhulk that he makes NO sense?:confused:
W.Y.B.A.
12-17-2009, 03:05 PM
That makes a lot of sense.

I could turn out to be wrong, but I think Samson is virtually spelling it out for us in the preview.

I've thought Rulk was Ross since he called Banner a "Milksop".
HulkSmash!
12-17-2009, 03:54 PM
No comment from me until next week just before the book hits, then I'll link my thoughts from....elsewhere. But you know we've already seen the next 2 pages after this preview, right?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h309/tensen2099/Rulk19.jpg

And, for those who didn't catch it yet, the first few pages of GAMMA are a note-for-note parallel to the first 7 pages of Loeb's HULK #1, right down to the panel structure. No way is this a coincidence.

~G.
Trey
12-17-2009, 04:36 PM
Jrjr is the best isn't he? Haters go away.
ResIpsaLoquitur
12-17-2009, 06:54 PM
So Rulk isn't Victoria Hand?
Will.S
12-17-2009, 07:01 PM
On one hand it's John Romita Jr., on the other it's Jeph Loeb.

Ugh, very hard decision.
The Gunslinger
12-17-2009, 08:43 PM
Is fall of the hulks the lead in to world war hulks, or did they change the event name to fall of the hulks?
Hrungr
12-17-2009, 08:48 PM
Is fall of the hulks the lead in to world war hulks, or did they change the event name to fall of the hulks?
The first.
Talkie Toaster
12-18-2009, 10:48 AM
Uhm, so Samson says the Redeemer armor was created by SHIELD?
Is he covering for the Leader or is this a pointless retcon?
HulkSmash!
12-18-2009, 04:09 PM
Uhm, so Samson says the Redeemer armor was created by SHIELD?
Is he covering for the Leader or is this a pointless retcon?

My curious thoughts also. Maybe Leader originally stole it from SHIELD?

Or yes, the other answer is he's blowing smoke.

FWIW, someone on another board claims to have an advance copy of FotH: Gamma (how, I know not--there are no subscription copies, and Marvel doesn't make paper First Looks available anymore, so it could be we have two smoke-blowers). Speculation sees Red She-Hulk knocked flat by MODOK, Red Hulk and Banner joining forces, and the return of one formerly dead colonel and hubby.

And wife.

We will see...

~G.
Talkie Toaster
12-18-2009, 05:15 PM
My curious thoughts also. Maybe Leader originally stole it from SHIELD?

I don't think he stole it
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/487/redyk.jpg
HulkSmash!
12-18-2009, 05:55 PM
I don't think he stole it
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/487/redyk.jpg

Well, there you go....or maybe he was just so impressed with it that he liked doodling it over and over?:biggrin:

It's No-Prize time....I didn't even remember that panel.

~G.
ResIpsaLoquitur
12-21-2009, 02:43 PM
So I see from the March solicits that A-bomb (Rick) is still alive, at least as of March.

Huh. I'd have thought that Rick's death would be the death that sets the whole Hulk war in motion, since a large chunk of our growing Hulk family has ties to him.

In fact, Hulk, Rulk, Lyra, Shred, Rick, and Skaar all seem to be alive and well by March. I doubt Jen will be killed, since that "Savage She-Hulks" series seems to be made just for her.

So unless we get a fakeout with Ross dying and then getting revealed as Rulk, I wonder who gets offed in Gamma?
HulkSmash!
12-21-2009, 07:38 PM
It really is ridiculous to think that Ross is going to die for real in Gamma, as he's died, what....twice, and returned from death as many times? Yeah, like it would stick any better this time.

~G.
ResIpsaLoquitur
12-21-2009, 09:33 PM
It really is ridiculous to think that Ross is going to die for real in Gamma, as he's died, what....twice, and returned from death as many times? Yeah, like it would stick any better this time.

~G.

I'll rephrase. I totally think that Ross' death in the preview is a fakeout to distract from him being Rulk. My point is that the solicits and interviews all said that some big death in Gamma is going to be the flashpoint for the Hulk war. So, is it Ross' alleged death which starts it, or does somebody else die (for real?) in this issue?
tassa_kay
12-22-2009, 01:17 AM
God, I can't stand RomitaJr's art, at all. UGH. It ruined WWH for me, and it's gonna ruin FotH Gamma for me. I'd have been happy with McGuiness, or even the penciler from FotH Alpha, or Olivetti (whose work is half the reason I'm reading Incredible right now, his work is just beautiful to me).
Robogeek28
12-22-2009, 07:14 AM
God, I can't stand RomitaJr's art, at all. UGH. It ruined WWH for me, and it's gonna ruin FotH Gamma for me.

He's doing the art?!?

Well that's one strike against the book for me. *sigh*
Majinoaw
12-22-2009, 07:24 AM
Ok guys, quick question.
How many of you believe that the Red Hulk is Ross and that the red she-hulk is Betty?

Ok just checking.
HulkSmash!
12-22-2009, 08:06 AM
I'll rephrase. I totally think that Ross' death in the preview is a fakeout to distract from him being Rulk. My point is that the solicits and interviews all said that some big death in Gamma is going to be the flashpoint for the Hulk war. So, is it Ross' alleged death which starts it, or does somebody else die (for real?) in this issue?
Oh, I wasn't coming down on you.:smile: I'm more coming down on editorial, et al. for not having an original idea in their heads. Who better to kill than the chief suspect for being Rulk? It draws attention to him as a suspect and as an LMD rather than away. Especially in light of T'bolt's two previous deaths.

~G.
HulkSmash!
12-22-2009, 08:06 AM
Ok guys, quick question.
How many of you believe that the Red Hulk is Ross and that the red she-hulk is Betty?

Ok just checking.
*raises hand*

~G.
Robogeek28
12-22-2009, 08:11 AM
Ok guys, quick question.
How many of you believe that the Red Hulk is Ross and that the red she-hulk is Betty?

Ok just checking.

Yo.:biggrin:
HulkSmash!
12-22-2009, 08:12 AM
God, I can't stand RomitaJr's art, at all. UGH. It ruined WWH for me, and it's gonna ruin FotH Gamma for me. I'd have been happy with McGuiness, or even the penciler from FotH Alpha, or Olivetti (whose work is half the reason I'm reading Incredible right now, his work is just beautiful to me).

It's true, he doesn't do Red Hulk any favors, as the character just begs to be big and cartoony as McGuinness and even Churchill have done so well at making him. Romita has a more grounded style so it doesn't have the same impact. I like JRJR's art fine (and met him in person besides, great guy), but you're right, I don't quite know why they had him pencil this special. At the very least, he could have done with a better inker than Klaus Janson, who can make pages look unfinished and rushed. Danny Miki and Mark Morales (I think) did a decent job cleaning up JRJR in the ETERNALS mini. Someone with a really clean line needs to polish up JRJR on a project like this.

Then again, I have a soft spot for JRJR as his art was in the first Spidey comic I ever had when I was a little tyke.

~G.
Talkie Toaster
12-22-2009, 10:32 AM
Ok guys, quick question.
How many of you believe that the Red Hulk is Ross and that the red she-hulk is Betty?

Ok just checking.

Count me in for that theory too
ResIpsaLoquitur
12-22-2009, 02:41 PM
Oh, I wasn't coming down on you.:smile: I'm more coming down on editorial, et al. for not having an original idea in their heads. Who better to kill than the chief suspect for being Rulk? It draws attention to him as a suspect and as an LMD rather than away. Especially in light of T'bolt's two previous deaths.

~G.

It's all good. What was the second death? The first was in Incredible #330. I guess the second could be in Incredible #400, but that was more "Ross' zombie corpse that only Bruce saw anyway," so I don't know that that counts.

I guess it was also suggested that Ross killed himself in Hulk #291, but I never read it that way.
HulkSmash!
12-22-2009, 05:12 PM
It's all good. What was the second death? The first was in Incredible #330. I guess the second could be in Incredible #400, but that was more "Ross' zombie corpse that only Bruce saw anyway," so I don't know that that counts.

Eh, I was counting the 2nd death in HULK #400. He was resurrected by the Leader's machines, only to be killed, and brought back again later, WITH his soul, by the Troyjans, which is where we saw him in HULK #455..

~G.
HulkSmash!
12-22-2009, 05:55 PM
Putting it all together, with clues up to and including HULK #18 and the preview pages of GAMMA, what I couldn't quite post last week:

iFanboy ramblings on Rulk and Red She-Hulk (http://www.ifanboy.com/content/articles/RED_HULK_identity_REVEALED__Or_Theorized_At_Least_ __), a repurposed and totally revised version of my older article. Ready for tomorrow's bombshell developments, whatever they may be!

~G.
ResIpsaLoquitur
12-22-2009, 06:10 PM
Putting it all together, with clues up to and including HULK #18 and the preview pages of GAMMA, what I couldn't quite post last week:

iFanboy ramblings on Rulk and Red She-Hulk (http://www.ifanboy.com/content/articles/RED_HULK_identity_REVEALED__Or_Theorized_At_Least_ __), a repurposed and totally revised version of my older article. Ready for tomorrow's bombshell developments, whatever they may be!

~G.

Good breakdown, although I always thought that the image of Rulk standing over Banner from #600 was supposed to be a contrast of this image (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_39-VfFoO9u0/SN6A4hwJAXI/AAAAAAAAArI/s7XWoUJs56g/s1600-h/Hulk+%236+(2008)+-+Page+21.jpg). I could be wrong, though.
Cth
12-23-2009, 06:54 AM
I'll rephrase. I totally think that Ross' death in the preview is a fakeout to distract from him being Rulk. My point is that the solicits and interviews all said that some big death in Gamma is going to be the flashpoint for the Hulk war. So, is it Ross' alleged death which starts it, or does somebody else die (for real?) in this issue?

I'm pretty sure I remember reading an interview where they cautioned against thinking that it'd be the only death.

So there's that to keep in mind as well.

The way I see it, Ross's death is faked, which forces him to go to Banner and reveal that he did it to save Betty, who's alive.

Eventually, Banner will end up joining the Intelligencia working with the Leader by the end.