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12-16-2009, 04:10 PM
The highly anticipated sequel uses its Whiplash viral campaign to launch the movie's first official web tie-in and unveil the trailer for the May blockbuster starring Robert Downey, Jr. and Don Cheadle!
Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24091).
zur en arrh
12-16-2009, 04:22 PM
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/
Is this the right place to post this? Either way, the trailer for the new film is up.
Brother Justin Crowe
12-16-2009, 04:25 PM
I just bricked.
Atom_basher
12-16-2009, 04:33 PM
.....is this what a nerdgasm feels like?
Atom_basher
12-16-2009, 04:35 PM
like i said in the other trhead, i had multiple nerdgasms
kmeyers
12-16-2009, 04:46 PM
Holeeeeee Crap!!!
The Batman
12-16-2009, 04:54 PM
Looks like it might be alright.
kmeyers
12-16-2009, 04:56 PM
The whole trailer was great, but that fight...at the end....looks EPIC.
artiepants
12-16-2009, 05:22 PM
The whole trailer was great, but that fight...at the end....looks EPIC.
i know, if you frame-by-frame through it it is just insane!!!:eek:
love, love, love how War Machines mini-gun is operating independently
cosmoboy
12-16-2009, 05:40 PM
Holy crap indeed! Iron Man was one of the first handful of books I ever picked up, and I had fun, then along came Rhodey and War Machine!!! this is THE movie for me next year.
Nathan
12-16-2009, 05:44 PM
freaking awesome
Mundungus
12-16-2009, 06:34 PM
Whew.
I am going to sleep for the next several months.
AdamYJ
12-16-2009, 06:40 PM
I'm not generally an Iron Man fan, but Downey's performance continues to win me over.
captainamerica4
12-16-2009, 06:46 PM
Close enough for me. Love the Congressional committee flip-off!
OptimusPrime114
12-16-2009, 07:12 PM
Close enough for me. Love the Congressional committee flip-off!
I praise Tony for actually sticking it to the man!
lonewolf23k
12-16-2009, 08:05 PM
They made Whiplash cool.
They've won me.
kalorama
12-16-2009, 08:09 PM
Nice. . . .
StoneGold
12-16-2009, 11:00 PM
And like I figured, all the stuff that looked off in the stills looks awesome when in motion.
another_version
12-16-2009, 11:04 PM
I had no desire to the first movie. But this looks really good!
SpideyZERO
12-16-2009, 11:42 PM
Man, kick ass trailer. The final scene rocks!
Rahul
12-17-2009, 01:26 AM
Great trailer.
Mickey Rourke's accent was indecipherable to me.....I had no idea what he was sayinhg. But he does make for a terrifying Whiplash!
kmeyers
12-17-2009, 01:54 AM
Great trailer.
Mickey Rourke's accent was indecipherable to me.....I had no idea what he was sayinhg. But he does make for a terrifying Whiplash!
Russian accent, and I thought he did it well. But, ok.
Mac Danny
12-17-2009, 07:12 AM
This is the most awesome thing I have seen in a while. Start the clock waiting till May.
WAR MACHINE!!!
Major Comma
12-17-2009, 08:15 AM
Why is Tony Stark going to JAIL?
He is clearly being led to a cell in one of the earlier scenes.
JimmyDee
12-17-2009, 08:48 AM
I admit I was VERY concerned when I first saw stills of Whiplash. It just looked bad.
But now, well, all concerns have been erased. That trailer kicked ass! Can't wait.
TikkiEXX
12-17-2009, 08:53 AM
Russian accent, and I thought he did it well. But, ok.
he should, the guy actually lived in a Russian prison for a while to get the accent and mannerisms down. that trailer rocked. i almost passed out during the last scene. WAR MACHINE!!!!!
Uproar
12-17-2009, 11:19 AM
I hate the fact that I have to wait to may for this because that trailer was fecking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tobias March
12-17-2009, 11:24 AM
Why is Tony Stark going to JAIL?
He is clearly being led to a cell in one of the earlier scenes.
Presumably to meet Whiplash himself.
Phil Clark
12-17-2009, 01:24 PM
Or maybe he is arrested due to a frame up by Whiplash.
BeastieRunner
12-17-2009, 01:35 PM
... and Marvel's Iron Man 2 will kill the Dark Knight.
Phil Clark
12-17-2009, 02:17 PM
... and Marvel's Iron Man 2 will kill the Dark Knight.
Are you talking box office, or as a comicbook movie?
I agree it will beat Dark Knight as a kick ass comics adaptation. To expect it to hit those box office numbers, that might be expecting a bit much of any movie. Those kinds of hits don't come along all that often.
the goddamn batman
12-17-2009, 02:40 PM
It'll be a great film but the trailer didn't do much for me.
The Zapper
12-17-2009, 02:42 PM
I really did not enjoy the first film. I haven't decided if I'll give this one a shot or not. I'll probably wait until it's on HBO or if a friend buys it on DVD maybe I'll borrow it.
the goddamn batman
12-17-2009, 03:44 PM
Really? What didn't you like about it?
BeastieRunner
12-17-2009, 03:49 PM
Are you talking box office, or as a comicbook movie?
I agree it will beat Dark Knight as a kick ass comics adaptation. To expect it to hit those box office numbers, that might be expecting a bit much of any movie. Those kinds of hits don't come along all that often.
Well if a cast member dies before the release, then I'll assert box office domination into that remark as well.
Zero Hunter
12-17-2009, 04:56 PM
I had concerns about Whiplash too after just seeing the stills and such, but seeing him cut that car in two was just plain cool.
theSuperAlbino
12-17-2009, 07:35 PM
Whiplash is awesome? Who knew? Can't wait for this movie, something tells me we'll be seeing more of Fury in this movie, just a hunch.
Sanotrex
12-18-2009, 08:18 AM
Hello, I just registered, because from what I searched, no forum has discussed this, but what the hell is up with Tony's body in one of the scenes(the one where we see his chest plate and its like surrounded by something wire looking). He looks a little robotic. Maybe some of the more knowing might explain to me, if there's something in the iron man universe that can explain this.
Motormouse
12-18-2009, 08:23 AM
Hello, I just registered, because from what I searched, no forum has discussed this, but what the hell is up with Tony's body in one of the scenes(the one where we see his chest plate and its like surrounded by something wire looking). He looks a little robotic. Maybe some of the more knowing might explain to me, if there's something in the iron man universe that can explain this.
I rather thought that that was whiplash*. Oh, welcome to CBR. Enjoy yourself dude:wink:
*Just went back and did it F by F, and you're right. Tony has some weird veins/wires on his neck and around the power unit, and he doesn't look too happy to see them. hmmmm
the goddamn batman
12-18-2009, 10:14 AM
Yeah, somethings going on there... not sure what. Don't read iron man so I don't know f that's something from the comics or not... ?
BeastieRunner
12-18-2009, 10:43 AM
As long as we don't get the whole Transformer-ish nanotech Extremis armor, I'm interested to see where they are going.
Green Goblin
12-18-2009, 12:44 PM
I though the trailor looks amazing I particular like the congress scenes and Whiplash , I had doubts when I heard he was going to mix of the orginal Whiplash and the Crimsion dymyno but all those are gone now ,I going to have to watch it again just to see the war machine bit I missed it the first time. The best thing is it out during my birthday next year so I think I doing that next year for it
Karl Cook
12-18-2009, 01:23 PM
I finally checked out the trailer for this and was mightily impressed. I don't read the Iron Man comics but I enjoyed the first movie, mainly due to Robert Downey Junior's performance but I have to give credit to Gwyneth Paltrow and John Favreau aswell.
This looks like all involved have "upped the ante", and adding Mickey Rourke to the mix only increases the potential.
Jared
12-18-2009, 01:38 PM
Looks awesome. But I still want to know why somebody just can't put a bullet in Whiplash.
theSuperAlbino
12-18-2009, 01:50 PM
Looks awesome. But I still want to know why somebody just can't put a bullet in Whiplash.
Because he deflects the bullets with his whips.
kmeyers
12-18-2009, 02:35 PM
Because he deflects the bullets with his whips.
He must have some incredibly superhuman reaction time.
Jared
12-18-2009, 05:51 PM
He must have some incredibly superhuman reaction time.
Not if the whips can be automated, although the trailer doesn't really show much of what he can do.
kmeyers
12-18-2009, 06:47 PM
Not if the whips can be automated, although the trailer doesn't really show much of what he can do.
I guess..but I'm assuming that's just his prototype, much like Tony's first model was.
I have afeeling he'll end up looking more like this...
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb52/The_Playlist/whiplash-marvel.jpg
Unless of course he's like a decoy villain like Scarecrow was in Batman Begins.
StoneGold
12-18-2009, 11:07 PM
Looks awesome. But I still want to know why somebody just can't put a bullet in Whiplash.
Perhaps he has a forcefield. Or is bulletproof.
hugh45
12-19-2009, 08:11 AM
I guess..but I'm assuming that's just his prototype, much like Tony's first model was.
I have afeeling he'll end up looking more like this...
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb52/The_Playlist/whiplash-marvel.jpg
Unless of course he's like a decoy villain like Scarecrow was in Batman Begins.
Is this the UU Whiplash?
Mic Murphy
12-19-2009, 11:01 AM
The trailer looks great, though personally I wouldn't have used Whiplash. If you essentially have to add elements of another villain (The Crimson Dynamo) to beef him up, that implies the creators saw a weakness with the character from the beginning.
I personally would have made it a two-villain team-up: The Crimson Dynamo (the Alex Nevsky armor) and The Titanium Man (the Boris Bullski version), both of them creations of Professor Anton Vanko. Mickey Rouke still can be The Crimson Dynamo and his protege can become The Titanium Man. Have them both of them beat up Iron Man and he needs War Machine's help.
great looking trailer, hope the movie is as good. :smile:
kmeyers
12-19-2009, 03:43 PM
Is this the UU Whiplash?
I think it's the new regular U design. It came out around the time the second movie was announced. I don't read Iron Man, so I don't know if they've used it yet or not.
Jared
12-19-2009, 04:08 PM
The trailer looks great, though personally I wouldn't have used Whiplash. If you essentially have to add elements of another villain (The Crimson Dynamo) to beef him up, that implies the creators saw a weakness with the character from the beginning.
I personally would have made it a two-villain team-up: The Crimson Dynamo (the Alex Nevsky armor) and The Titanium Man (the Boris Bullski version), both of them creations of Professor Anton Vanko. Mickey Rouke still can be The Crimson Dynamo and his protege can become The Titanium Man. Have them both of them beat up Iron Man and he needs War Machine's help.
The thing is that they're basically just more guys in big, mean Iron Man armors...which we had in the first movie with Iron Monger. Whiplash at least has a cool gimmick going for him with the energy whips. At least, it like it could be pretty cool from the trailers.
Ferago
12-19-2009, 09:59 PM
I really hope Mickey Rourke's apparently russian accent isn't too ridiculous in the movie...
Themasething
12-19-2009, 10:25 PM
This looks like it'll be made of Epic combined with Win!
kmeyers
12-19-2009, 10:44 PM
I really hope Mickey Rourke's apparently russian accent isn't too ridiculous in the movie...
Just curious...is accuracy ridiculous? because that's what a thick russian accent sounds like. Or have you never heard a thick russian accent?
AdamYJ
12-20-2009, 06:02 AM
I'm just surprised they're using Whiplash at all. I mean, it seems to me that of all the villians on that sort of baseline level (as in, the ones that aren't masterminds like Stane and Mandarin and the ones that aren't Iron Man analogues like Titanium Man), that Blizzard was the most popular and the one that would most likely be used first.
Mic Murphy
12-20-2009, 06:05 AM
The thing is that they're basically just more guys in big, mean Iron Man armors...which we had in the first movie with Iron Monger. Whiplash at least has a cool gimmick going for him with the energy whips. At least, it like it could be pretty cool from the trailers.
Considering that Obadiah Stane was Iron Monger for what, 10 minutes of the final set in the first movie? Yeah, I actually would prefer a whole movie with Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man, particularly since the second movie definitely has a Russian emphasis (see Black Widow, who has a shared past with Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man). Not to mention "Iron Man 2" will have elements of the Armor Wars, so two of Iron Man's biggest villains would make sense.
That's the thing about Whiplash -- it's not even the character in the comic books (Marc Scarlotti), but Dr. Anton Vanko playing Whiplash instead of creating The Crimson Dynamo armor. It would be one thing if there was some commonality here (like combining elements of Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man, who are similar) but Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo have nothing in common. That basically is admitting there is a weakness in choosing the character.
Mic Murphy
12-20-2009, 06:20 AM
I'm just surprised they're using Whiplash at all. I mean, it seems to me that of all the villians on that sort of baseline level (as in, the ones that aren't masterminds like Stane and Mandarin and the ones that aren't Iron Man analogues like Titanium Man), that Blizzard was the most popular and the one that would most likely be used first.
Well, if the theme wasn't featuring elements of The Armor Wars I would have preferred a more powerful threat like The Living Laser. The Living Laser's power levels would go well with CGI, in my opinion. The only tinkering I would do with Arthur Parks is update his look (it's too '70s looking, IMO).
AdamYJ
12-20-2009, 06:41 AM
It would be one thing if there was some commonality here (like combining elements of Crimson Dynamo and Titanium Man, who are similar) but Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo have nothing in common.
Does anyone else remember how Crimson Dynamo used to be an electrically themed villian rather than just some dude in bad Iron Man armor? That's how it was in Essential Iron Man vol. 1. Whatever happened to that?
Mic Murphy
12-20-2009, 06:44 AM
Hello, I just registered, because from what I searched, no forum has discussed this, but what the hell is up with Tony's body in one of the scenes(the one where we see his chest plate and its like surrounded by something wire looking). He looks a little robotic. Maybe some of the more knowing might explain to me, if there's something in the iron man universe that can explain this.
Someone else mentioned the Extremis storyline, but it also could have roots in the Joe Quesada storyline where Iron Man's armor becomes sentient and eventuallly too aggressive; in the comic books, the armor killed Blacklash/Whiplash.
The storyline in the comics ends with the armor sacrificing its own existence to give Stark a new, artificial heart (basically what he already has, as established in the first movie). The movie could be doing a reverse of that, where the heart causes the armor to become sentient.
Mic Murphy
12-20-2009, 06:49 AM
Does anyone else remember how Crimson Dynamo used to be an electrically themed villian rather than just some dude in bad Iron Man armor? That's how it was in Essential Iron Man vol. 1. Whatever happened to that?
You're talking about the first Crimson Dynamo, that appeared in Tales of Suspense 46. That character, Dr. Anton Vanko, is essentially the character Mickey Rourke is playing in "Iron Man 2."
Personally, I would have liked a mixture of the Vanko and Alex Nevsky armors of The Crimson Dynamo to have been used. He could have the ability to control electricity, but the armor would have the look of the Nevsky model (the Vanko model looked clumsy to me).
AdamYJ
12-20-2009, 07:26 AM
You're talking about the first Crimson Dynamo, that appeared in Tales of Suspense 46. That character, Dr. Anton Vanko, is essentially the character Mickey Rourke is playing in "Iron Man 2."
Personally, I would have liked a mixture of the Vanko and Alex Nevsky armors of The Crimson Dynamo to have been used. He could have the ability to control electricity, but the armor would have the look of the Nevsky model (the Vanko model looked clumsy to me).
My knowledge of Iron Man essentially comes from that first Essential volume, the '90s cartoon and the movie, with a few other scattered comics thrown in.
But, it just strikes me that we have enough evil Iron Man an analogues. Between Iron Monger and the Titanium Man, there are already two. Most heroes need only one "evil self" to fight. So, I didn't see why they turned the Crimson Dynamo into an evil Iron Man when the role of an electrically themed villian seems to rarely be filled in his Rogues Gallery (to my limited knowledge).
It's not about how the suit looks. It's about the gimmick. In superhero comics, it's always about the gimmick. :biggrin:
Mic Murphy
12-20-2009, 07:43 AM
It's not exactly like the first Crimson Dynamo was dramatically different from Iron Man, though. The Anton Vanko model shot lightning, where the others used tech-based weaponry. Other than that, the Crimson Dynamo always has been a villainous doppleganger of Iron Man's.
My point about the Varko armor is that it would not play well in a movie made today; if a Crimson Dynamo was going to be used in an Iron Man movie, the Alex Nevsky armor would be better aesthetically.
Sanotrex
12-20-2009, 10:11 AM
Someone else mentioned the Extremis storyline, but it also could have roots in the Joe Quesada storyline where Iron Man's armor becomes sentient and eventuallly too aggressive; in the comic books, the armor killed Blacklash/Whiplash.
The storyline in the comics ends with the armor sacrificing its own existence to give Stark a new, artificial heart (basically what he already has, as established in the first movie). The movie could be doing a reverse of that, where the heart causes the armor to become sentient.
Thx for the info, I just read about the extremis armor and I really hope that they don't turn Stark into a robotized wolverine copy. So the electronic chest piece make's it's appearance in the comic much latter ?
Mic Murphy
12-20-2009, 10:25 AM
Thx for the info, I just read about the extremis armor and I really hope that they don't turn Stark into a robotized wolverine copy. So the electronic chest piece make's it's appearance in the comic much latter ?
During a final confrontation with his sentient Iron Man armor, Stark suffers another heart attack. The armor sacrificed itself, giving up essential components to give Stark a new, artificial heart. That seems to be the closest comparison to the arc reactor in the Iron Man movies. It happened a few years before the Extremis storyline.
Until that point, Stark wore the Iron Man armor's chestplate beneath his clothes to act as a regulator for his heart.
Jared
12-20-2009, 10:29 AM
I believe this came up in another thread, but one problem with Crimson Dynamo is the name. It sounds like some kind of sex toy.
Titanium Man, Living Laser, they're kind of lame too. Say them out loud if you don't believe me.
Mic Murphy
12-20-2009, 10:51 AM
I believe this came up in another thread, but one problem with Crimson Dynamo is the name. It sounds like some kind of sex toy.
Titanium Man, Living Laser, they're kind of lame too. Say them out loud if you don't believe me.
And the supervillain in "Iron Man 2" has a name resembling an S&M fetish (Whiplash). Not to mention even the character in the comic books went back to his original name -- Blacklash -- before he was killed, so apparently Marc Scarlotti decided "Whiplash" wasn't that impressive, either.
EDIT: Marc Scarlotti was originally Whiplash and then changed it to Blacklash.
Athena Bast
12-20-2009, 10:58 AM
And the supervillain in "Iron Man 2" has a name resembling an S&M fetish (Whiplash). Not to mention even the character in the comic books went back to his original name -- Blacklash -- before he was killed, so apparently Marc Scarlotti decided "Whiplash" wasn't that impressive, either.
Whiplash is also a medical condition, usually suffered when moving vehicle comes to a sudden violent stop which I believe is the verbage being used here.
Mic Murphy
12-20-2009, 10:59 AM
Whiplash is also a medical condition, usually suffered when moving vehicle comes to a sudden violent stop which I believe is the verbage being used here.
Thanks for ... well, telling me something that I knew a long time ago.
The whole point is someone is trying to make a case about a comic book character's codename, and it's not exactly like the villain Jared is repping has an impressive name. In fact, the comic book character actually changed his codename back to his original one before he died.
kmeyers
12-20-2009, 01:10 PM
Whiplash is also a medical condition, usually suffered when moving vehicle comes to a sudden violent stop which I believe is the verbage being used here.
It's also the name of an incredibly awesome(and actually pretty fitting for the character) Metallica song.
"Adrenaline starts to flow
Thrashing all around
Acting like a maniac
...Whiplash!"
Athena Bast
12-20-2009, 01:16 PM
Thanks for ... well, telling me something that I knew a long time ago.
The whole point is someone is trying to make a case about a comic book character's codename, and it's not exactly like the villain Jared is repping has an impressive name. In fact, the comic book character actually changed his codename back to his original one before he died.
I'm trying to figure out why you went directly to a fetish association instead of the logical one. And given that what could appear to be their first encounter at the race track the name is obviously befitting unless he and Tony had a little too much fun in the Goulag one winter.
kalorama
12-20-2009, 03:02 PM
And the supervillain in "Iron Man 2" has a name resembling an S&M fetish (Whiplash). Not to mention even the character in the comic books went back to his original name -- Blacklash -- before he was killed, so apparently Marc Scarlotti decided "Whiplash" wasn't that impressive, either.
Blacklash is not the character's original name. When the character first appeared in Iron Man (during the Stan Lee/Gene Colan run) he was a Maggia enforcer who went by the name Whiplash. It wasn't until decades later (under Michilinie/Romita Jr./Layton) that he first changed his name to Blacklash.
kalorama
12-20-2009, 03:07 PM
And this whole debate regarding the derivation of his name is a classic example of minutiae-obsessed comic fans reading between lines that aren't there.
He's a character who uses a whip as a weapon. A blow or strike made with a whip is called a lash. Ergo: whip+lash=Whiplash.
See how simple and uncontroversial that is?
Mic Murphy
12-20-2009, 03:31 PM
Blacklash is not the character's original name. When the character first appeared in Iron Man (during the Stan Lee/Gene Colan run) he was a Maggia enforcer who went by the name Whiplash. It wasn't until decades later (under Michilinie/Romita Jr./Layton) that he first changed his name to Blacklash.
You're right. Marc Scarlotti went from Whiplash (first appearance in 1968) and then to Blacklash in 1981. I was so busy heading out that I got the order mixed up, even though I knew that from being a collector of Iron Man books. Sorry about the error.
My original point was I don't find Whiplash to be neither less nor more impressive than names like The Crimson Dynamo and The Living Laser. They're all typical codenames associated with superheroes and supervillains.
Mic Murphy
12-20-2009, 03:49 PM
I'm trying to figure out why you went directly to a fetish association instead of the logical one. And given that what could appear to be their first encounter at the race track the name is obviously befitting unless he and Tony had a little too much fun in the Goulag one winter.
It was because Jared said The Crimson Dynamo's name sounded like some sexual appartus. I just thought it was a little odd, particularly when Marc Scarlotti actually had the S&M/bondage-and-leather motif in his final appearances in Iron Man (and -- after looking through my Iron Man books again -- briefly went back to calling himself Whiplash before he was killed):
http://static.blogo.it/cineblog/Whiplash.jpg
Furthermore, it seems some people are not that familiar with the Iron Man mythos, based on some of the responses in the thread I read. Thus, my poor attempt at parallelism and why it may have gone over someone's head. I didn't mean to derail the thread, so please continue.
kalorama
12-20-2009, 06:31 PM
My original point was I don't find Whiplash to be neither less nor more impressive than names like The Crimson Dynamo and The Living Laser. They're all typical codenames associated with superheroes and supervillains.
The issue was never which name sounded more or less "impressive." It was which name would probably sound less silly being spoken repeatedly aloud by an actual person in a live-action film. Whiplash wins out (if only by a small margin) over Crimson Dynamo or Living Laser.
Wenatchee the Hatchet
12-20-2009, 07:37 PM
"Whiplash" might just be a name given by the media. After all, we got Spiderman films where the villains didn't call themselves Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus. Maybe that is the route the script will take here with Whiplash.
kmeyers
12-20-2009, 08:29 PM
"Whiplash" might just be a name given by the media. After all, we got Spiderman films where the villains didn't call themselves Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus. Maybe that is the route the script will take here with Whiplash.
Not only that, but seriously? What Villain name (or even superhero name) ISN'T kind of silly if you really think about it?
streator
12-21-2009, 07:02 AM
i thought the bits with war machine looked cool.
scarlett johansen seems miscast.
Mic Murphy
12-21-2009, 07:25 AM
The issue was never which name sounded more or less "impressive." It was which name would probably sound less silly being spoken repeatedly aloud by an actual person in a live-action film. Whiplash wins out (if only by a small margin) over Crimson Dynamo or Living Laser.
Of course, that is your opinion. Just like it is my opinion both names are no more or no less silly -- after all, they are merely codenames for fictional characters with superhuman abilities.
Mic Murphy
12-21-2009, 07:28 AM
The issue was never which name sounded more or less "impressive." It was which name would probably sound less silly being spoken repeatedly aloud by an actual person in a live-action film. Whiplash wins out (if only by a small margin) over Crimson Dynamo or Living Laser.
Of course, that is your opinion. Just like it is my opinion both names are no more or no less silly -- after all, they are merely codenames for fictional characters with superhuman abilities. Just like it is your opinion which one "wins out."
Phil Clark
12-21-2009, 09:16 AM
i thought the bits with war machine looked cool.
scarlett johansen seems miscast.
I don't know about Scarlett. I mean, red hair, check... hottt, check... skin tight outfit, check... wrist blasters, check... All we are waiting on is to see if she can handle a decent russian accent, and that can be explained away easily as she is undercover, or has been on assignment for so long that her accent has faded. So all in all... Not a problem for me.
As far as names are concerned, Iron Monger was never called Iron Monger, he said that he and Tony were iron mongers, thats what they do, build weapons. But he never called his over sized suit Iron Monger. So who says they have to call Whiplash Whiplash. He can just be called by his real name all the time. Works for me.
Ronin1108
12-21-2009, 09:37 AM
I'd much rather crimson dynamo and titanium man get left over for later in the series, especially with CD. With the avengers movie approaching, you can kinda play the ol russia/US rivalry by maybe showing a quick shot of the winter guard if they choose crimson dynamo, that'd be dope to me..
StoneGold
12-21-2009, 05:10 PM
As far as names are concerned, Iron Monger was never called Iron Monger, he said that he and Tony were iron mongers, thats what they do, build weapons. But he never called his over sized suit Iron Monger. So who says they have to call Whiplash Whiplash. He can just be called by his real name all the time. Works for me.
And Iron Man wasn't named until the last few minutes of the movie, and that was more a joke based on a "high fallutin'" headline.
If Iron Man had been named earlier, Iron Monger might have made more sense, given it was a rival weapons platform designed specifically to fight the first one.
kalorama
12-21-2009, 05:55 PM
Of course, that is your opinion. Just like it is my opinion both names are no more or no less silly -- after all, they are merely codenames for fictional characters with superhuman abilities. Just like it is your opinion which one "wins out."
Of course it's my opinion (albeit one with which I would wager most would agree). So, what's your point?
ragudaddy
12-24-2009, 09:52 AM
Was I the only person that realized that Iron Man was wearing new armor in that last scene? Triangle chest piece, different legs, etc. Guess they gotta be able to sell additional toys :wink:
Phil Clark
12-24-2009, 09:58 AM
In the comics Tony has always been tweaking the armor, modifying it for special purposes, tossing some of those when he no longer needed them. In that respect, Iron Man is perhaps the most marketable of the characters, because they can come up with variations of the armor and it totally fits in with the concept of the character. Not like some of the forced modifications of Batmans outfits to make Skating outfits and the like for the Batman franchise.
Monty_Cristo
12-24-2009, 06:23 PM
i'm surprised that they didn't bring in the Ghost as a villain; given his popularity in the books.
Frank
12-27-2009, 09:10 PM
Also with Whiplash being Russian this time and with the whips coming out of his arms, there's the Omega Red thing coming into play. I guess he's a mix of this character too.
Frankly I don't mind although I always liked Whiplash/Blacklash as this "Hawkeye with Whips" where he had whips for any uses.
You know...
The first movie had armor vs armor.
Second movie had someone more ground-based that mainly used the Stark chest energy for power.
What's next for villains? Apart for the Mandarin, I wonder what would be the next logical step. Maybe for the third, Justin Hammer could create a dozen versions of Iron Man by stealing the tech and outfiting criminals with it, creating new villains. Hence Armor War(where War Machine and a few others would help Tony). Or maybe it could be a new one that would be a mix of Living Laser with Fire Brand(former Stark employee that is part of an accident that turns him into a being energy).
Another idea would be to focus on more personal threats, mixing Demons in the Bottle into it and have the villains being just a bunch of spies trying to steal things like Spy Master, The Ghost, etc... You could involve SHIELD more and turn this into a spy movie. I could see Madame Masque being the heavy in the movie where she would seduce Stark for part of the movie and being revealed as someone else later. The idea would be the sneaky threat, the one we can't foresee.
Also with Whiplash being Russian this time and with the whips coming out of his arms, there's the Omega Red thing coming into play. I guess he's a mix of this character too.
Actually it's supposed to be a mix of Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo.
MichaelChen
12-27-2009, 10:40 PM
I'd like to see Ghost and The Mandarin in the third.
Infernorhythm
12-27-2009, 10:45 PM
Apparently, the Mandarin is being set up for the third film, with his influence being felt in this film the same way it was hinted at in the first (the Ten Rings). I think this may be a bit more direct though this time. Probably manipulating Justin Hammer. At least, that's my guess.
Frank
12-30-2009, 07:29 PM
Actually it's supposed to be a mix of Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo.
Well yea but the movie Whiplash look nothing like either comic Whiplash or Crimson Dynamo. It's basicaly the civilian identity of the original Crimson Dynamo with the name Whiplash and a weapon that's a mix of what Omega Red has and old school villain "Constrictor".
kalorama
12-30-2009, 07:31 PM
Strictly speaking, I believe Omega Red has tentacles, not whips.
Jared
12-31-2009, 01:04 PM
I think Red refers to them as tendrils, actually.
Frank
01-01-2010, 03:41 AM
And he gave each one of them a name.
kmeyers
01-01-2010, 04:24 AM
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