Something's Got to Give: Will Fraction Stay on X-Men

[darknessatnoon]

He's writing long form arcs for Iron Man, planning out three years of Thor (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24055). Can Fraction afford to spare any more time for Uncanny?

[tlp0708]

Having time hasn't equated into managable, well-written stories, so does it matter if he has time?

And I vote no, even though I don't see a poll.

[Swashbuckler]

We haven't heard of anything about what's going on after second coming and it seems like it will be time for some new ideas to be put into play, hopefully ideas that aren't all about Cyclops and Emma. You know, Xavier was the X-Men's leader for years and he never hogged as much spotlight at Cyclops seems to.

[darknessatnoon]

We haven't heard of anything about what's going on after second coming and it seems like it will be time for some new ideas to be put into play, hopefully ideas that aren't all about Cyclops and Emma. You know, Xavier was the X-Men's leader for years and he never hogged as much spotlight at Cyclops seems to.

Any Xavier at all was terrible. Remember when he insulted Lilandra's coffee?

[Swashbuckler]

Any Xavier at all was terrible. Remember when he insulted Lilandra's coffee?

Or when they wasted the whole issue on his and Magneto's back story. YAWN! I will say, I did enjoy that 90's story "Hunt for Xavier".

[tlp0708]

Any Xavier at all was terrible. Remember when he insulted Lilandra's coffee?

She deserved it.

[nikbackm]

He's writing long form arcs for Iron Man, planning out three years of Thor (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24055). Can Fraction afford to spare any more time for Uncanny?

Three monthlies does not seem much for a writer, he should be able to handle it.

[darknessatnoon]

Three monthlies does not seem much for a writer, he should be able to handle it.

No? I can't even remember what's typical output. Bendis can do it, but all his writing reads exactly the same. CC certainly can do it except the level of quality ... isn't high.

[Peter F.]

He'd probably leave Iron Man before he leaves Uncanny.

[tlp0708]

He'd probably leave Iron Man before he leaves Uncanny.

Why would you say that?

[darknessatnoon]

He'd probably leave Iron Man before he leaves Uncanny.

Iron Man is too high profile with the movie coming and he's actually not bad on it. He seems to have a genuine affinity for the character.

[nikbackm]

Why would you say that?

He's probably told the story he wanted to tell when Stark: Disassembled ends.

[Come To Deathstrike]

An affinity for a braindead drunk?

[tlp0708]

An affinity for a braindead drunk?

It explains a lot.

[ExodusCloak]

He'd probably leave Iron Man before he leaves Uncanny.

Given the way he's been dishing out Uncanny X-Men this year (sometimes bimonthly) I'd say he won't have a problem handling 3 books. Bendis is on what like 4 books? Dark Avenger, New Avengers, Secret Warriors, Spider-Women plus the Gazillion Dark Reign one-shots & Siege issues. On the flip side we might get a better artist seeing how Greg Lands speedy talents aren't required anymore now that he's on 3 books.

I don't think he'll just yet, he said he's around after Second Coming and there's still a few plots to wrap up after Second Coming like who the hell is the Red Queen and why she chose to act now?

[darknessatnoon]

An affinity for a braindead drunk?

Yes, he seems to like Tony Stark and having Tony Stark beg Captain America and Thor to "hit that."

[Filthy Mutie]

An affinity for a braindead drunk?

That braindead drunk has a goatee.

[tlp0708]

Given the way he's been dishing out Uncanny X-Men this year (sometimes bimonthly) I'd say he won't have a problem handling 3 books. Bendis is on what like books? Dark Avenger, New Avengers, Secret Warriors, Spider-Women plus the Gazillion Dark Reign one-shots.

I don't think he'll just yet, he said he's around after Second Coming and there's still a few plots to wrap up after Second Coming like who the hell is the Red Queen and why she chose to act now?

Maybe he didn't know he would be handed the reins to Thor when he made this comment? Or the writers and editors just like to fuck with us?

And what makes you think he's actually going to wrap up those plot points? That would've taken foresight, which I'm not convinced he has.

[Come To Deathstrike]

and hipster slang.

[AcesX1X]

and hipster slang.

they have to stay forever young. fraction is just refreshing their word banks.

[ExodusCloak]

Maybe he didn't know he would be handed the reins to Thor when he made this comment? Or the writers and editors just like to fuck with us?

And what makes you think he's actually going to wrap up those plot points? That would've taken foresight, which I'm not convinced he has.

I doubt that he's been speculated to be the next Thor writer ever since he wrote that Secret Invasion one shot. Don't forget that Fractions style is very similar to Bendis not to mention that he also happens to be a very close friend of Bendis. 3 books seems fine.

That's silly, you may not like his writing sure I can get that but Fraction did leave seeds throughout his run the Emma/Sentry dream in Lovelorn for example and most likely the Emma/Phoenix vision in Sisterhood.

[Swashbuckler]

I highly doubt Fraction is going to come back around to explain who the hell the Red Queen was. They haven't even told us where the ever important Russian prostitutes have been sent. Surely they didn't take them all to Utopia.

[tlp0708]

I doubt that Fractions style is very similar to Bendis not to mention that he also happens to be a very close friend of Bendis.

That's silly, you may not like his writing sure I can get that but Fraction did leave seeds throughout his run the Emma/Sentry dream in Lovelorn for example and most likely the Emma/Phoenix vision in Sisterhood.

Wait, I didn't say anything about Bendis.

And you're referring to the plot point of Red Queen, which was clearly not well-planned or well-written. The Void/Sentry thing had to be something not plotted entirely by Fraction. After all, that point would involve some sort of consent or agreement with the writer who is currently writing him. So that wasn't entirely Fraction. And the Phoenix thing has been hinted at by various writers, not just Fraction. While it's entirely possible, and likely, that Fraction isn't solely responsible for the Red Queen mess, he is the only one who wrote it, unlike the plot points in the DA crossover or the Phoenix stuff. So, it's not that silly.

[graffiX]

All I want for Christmas is Kyle and Yost on Uncanny after Second Coming!!

Please Santa?

[worstblogever]

Three monthlies does not seem much for a writer, he should be able to handle it.

Well, he already left Iron Fist...

[worstblogever]

I highly doubt Fraction is going to come back around to explain who the hell the Red Queen was. They haven't even told us where the ever important Russian prostitutes have been sent. Surely they didn't take them all to Utopia.

How else would they keep rowdy mutants like Frenzy, Toad, and Avalanche in line? Free whores, that's how.

[ExodusCloak]

Wait, I didn't say anything about Bendis.

And you're referring to the plot point of Red Queen, which was clearly not well-planned or well-written. The Void/Sentry thing had to be something not plotted entirely by Fraction. After all, that point would involve some sort of consent or agreement with the writer who is currently writing him. So that wasn't entirely Fraction. And the Phoenix thing has been hinted at by various writers, not just Fraction. While it's entirely possible, and likely, that Fraction isn't solely responsible for the Red Queen mess, he is the only one who wrote it, unlike the plot points in the DA crossover or the Phoenix stuff. So, it's not that silly.

I edited my post before you posted.

Sure it wasn't well written or drawn and part of that is down to being told to bring Psylocke back into the fold. Granted it is one of Bru's left over plots but the way it began/was left seems random.

IRRC The Sentry/Emma thing was all Fraction, Fraction collaberated with Bendis during the SI: Dark Reign issue and most of Utopia is down to Fraction well that's what Bendis said anyway.

If you think about it, if he was that short sighted he wouldn't have even thought about having the Emma/Jean "talk". Sure the Cuckoos thing is similar to what Yost did with Rachel but that other thing was completely unnecessary unless there's some sort of method to his madness. There's still all that Namor stuff he plans on doing as well.

[darknessatnoon]

I edited my post before you posted.

Sure it wasn't well written or drawn and part of that is down to being told to bring Psylocke back into the fold. Granted it is one of Bru's left over plots but the way it began/was left seems random.

IRRC The Sentry/Emma thing was all Fraction, Fraction collaberated with Bendis during the SI: Dark Reign issue and most of Utopia is down to Fraction well that's what Bendis said anyway.

If you think about it, if he was that short sighted he wouldn't have even thought about having the Emma/Jean "talk". Sure the Cuckoos thing is similar to what Yost did with Rachel but that other thing was completely unnecessary unless there's some sort of method to his madness. There's still all that Namor stuff he plans on doing as well.

WHY ARE YOU RUINING THIS THREAD WITH ALL THIS TALK OF HIM STAYING?

[AcesX1X]

There's still all that Namor stuff he plans on doing as well.


hmmm....that sort of makes me nervous, exodus. how far do you think he's going to take it?

[ExodusCloak]

WHY ARE YOU RUINING THIS THREAD WITH ALL THIS TALK OF HIM STAYING?

But what happens if he doesn't leave? We'll get a flood of threads saying that Marvel lied.


hmmm....that sort of makes me nervous, exodus. how far do you think he's going to take it?

Maybe he'll leave at the end of next year. As far as I know he had 3 years planned out.

[darknessatnoon]

But what happens if he doesn't leave? We'll get a flood of threads saying that Marvel lied.

I would like to be appointed an official spokesperson for Marvel.

[Swashbuckler]

Namor is far less interesting now that it's pretty much confirmed he won't break up Scott and Emma.

[darknessatnoon]

Namor is far less interesting now that it's pretty much confirmed he won't break up Scott and Emma.

When was he ever interesting? He's like some kind of special waterproof cardboard cutout.

[tlp0708]

Namor is far less interesting now that it's pretty much confirmed he won't break up Scott and Emma.

Doesn't mean someone else will keep them together.

[ExodusCloak]

I would like to be appointed an official spokesperson for Marvel.

Done, proceed.

Just as long as the next writer turns Toad into a coprophile.

[AcesX1X]

When was he ever interesting? He's like some kind of special waterproof cardboard cutout.

i liked that daredevil comic where he has matt murdock put the human race on trial.

[Swashbuckler]

Doesn't mean someone else will keep them together.

Oh, I want them to stay together. I just liked the threat Namor seemed to be presenting. Now I don't really take him seriously though. Just go live in the ocean and relax Namor.

[darknessatnoon]

i liked that daredevil comic where he has matt murdock put the human race on trial.

I'm betting Frank Miller didn't write that one.

[The Black Guardian]

As putrid as it's been, I'm pretty sure Fraction hasn't spared time for Uncanny since he's been writing it.

[Shadowkurt]

Given the way he's been dishing out Uncanny X-Men this year (sometimes bimonthly) I'd say he won't have a problem handling 3 books. Bendis is on what like 4 books? Dark Avenger, New Avengers, Secret Warriors, Spider-Women plus the Gazillion Dark Reign one-shots & Siege issues. On the flip side we might get a better artist seeing how Greg Lands speedy talents aren't required anymore now that he's on 3 books.

I don't think he'll just yet, he said he's around after Second Coming and there's still a few plots to wrap up after Second Coming like who the hell is the Red Queen and why she chose to act now?

However, everything Bendis writes revolves around his big meta-plots (Secret Invasion, Dark Reign, Siege) so his different books might be considered as variations on a common theme. Likewise, Abnett and Lanning have been writing four series at a time for years now, but they are basically telling one big story after the other (A:C - WOK - ROK), each spread out over various titles. Iron Man and the Uncanny X-Men however have nothing in common, and neither have Thor and UXM. So, writing Iron Man and Thor at the same time would make a lot of sense, given that the Avengers will become Heroic again after Siege, but UXM?

And I think he will be through with his ideas for the X-Men, such as they were, by the end of Second Coming.

Plus, that interview when he was asked whether he would leave UXM after Second Coming, he said something like "you know more than me" or "that's news to me" or such. He never positively said "I will still write Uncanny when Second Coming is over."

So there's still Hope (eh, hope).

[AcesX1X]

So there's still Hope (eh, hope).

clever, shadowkurt. very clever.

[.LuckyStar.]

Plus, that interview when he was asked whether he would leave UXM after Second Coming, he said something like "you know more than me" or "that's news to me" or such. He never positively said "I will still write Uncanny when Second Coming is over."

So there's still Hope (eh, hope).

He said: "I'm working out post-"Second Coming" stuff now".

[Aguja]

Now that I've come to adore his work I hope he doesn't leave. I'll kill myself if he does.

[KwameKamikaze]

I don't hate his run, I can't say I've liked all of his arcs and he was really hit and miss, not mention what felt like misinterpretation of some characters or concepts. But besides all of that I find some of it enjoyable, like this Nation X arc. But I have to say Craig Kyle and Chris Yost have been doing so much for the X-books, it's so weird that they've never done Uncanny. So I want Fraction gone, not because he sucks, but because Kyle and Yost invested so much into the X-Universe. And if they're not doing X-force, what the hell would they be doing?

[Nicoclaws]

He said: "I'm working out post-"Second Coming" stuff now".

I don't think we can trust his interviews.

[fod_xp]

Sort of true, Fraction loves to jest. :biggrin:

[Goshin]

Kyle & Yost should take over Uncanny if X-Force is canceled, we don't need any more damn Cyclops/White Queen stories...

[Ziral]

Kyle & Yost should take over Uncanny if X-Force is canceled, we don't need any more damn Cyclops/White Queen stories...

X-Force isn't canceled. Kyle & Yost are leaving the title. I think Kyle & Yost have a thing for Cyclops and Emma too.

[Majinoaw]

To me Fraction has had a definite plan for Uncanny and has had a great deal of support from editorial to implement his ideas. His direction is bold and a stark contrast as to what we've seen in the title before.

But what Fraction's run has lacked is a core cast that the reader can feel connected to or see some mild form of characterization from. The only characters that have received some degree of attention are Cyclops and Emma. They are the main stars of the book eclipsing everyone else. They're the lynchpin of the team.

The rest... we're given brief glimpses of core established characters. When was the last time Nightcrawler did something meaningful in Uncanny? When was the last time we saw solid character development bits between Angel, Iceman and Beast?

Instead Fraction takes us on long ride with no chance of pulling over along the side of the road to take a pitstop into the psyche of these characters.

Where are those quiet moments with rich characterization, that have been absent from the book for so long?

Where was the crossover that promised to pit Cyclops tactical genious, against Osborn's tightly clinched oppressive fist.

Instead we received a showcase of our favorite characters in dramatic moments. Major plot points were resolved off panel.

Does Fraction need to go? Not on my say so. But Marvel does need to get back to what made the X-Men great. A smaller cast/ a more defined mission/ and perhaps some new blood to help rejuevenate the team.

[Blood Witch]

Has this part of the interview been talked about yet:
From Cup O' Joe
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24069
Related part below-
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I'll be really honest with you. Matt has had a passion for Thor since he started here. He loves the character and just really gets wood for Thor. [Laughs] And when he heard that Thor was going to be available, he lobbied for the job. To be frank, we loved Matt's passion and knew he could do a good job, but he was a little bit underwater – he was doing a lot of books. And we were fearful that giving him another monthly was something where he could collapse under the weight of so much work so we were trying to, in the nicest of ways, discourage him from jumping in and adding another title to his schedule. But he wanted the thing so badly that I said, "Okay, write up some bullet points, pitch me your Thor. Let me know what you'd do with the character." He wrote up these beat sheets for many issues of "Thor," where he wanted to take the character, and I was blown away. Every one of these stories was epic and beyond anything I could imagine. He sold me and everyone here in editorial. Looking at the beat sheet he submitted, we could not not give him this book. He's going to bring the character to another level, which is perfect because of the impending movie. So, the bottom line is that we're going to have a rockin' Thor book and a very exhausted Matt Fraction to go along with it.
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[tlp0708]

Has this part of the interview been talked about yet:
From Cup O' Joe
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24069
Related part below-
___
I'll be really honest with you. Matt has had a passion for Thor since he started here. He loves the character and just really gets wood for Thor. [Laughs] And when he heard that Thor was going to be available, he lobbied for the job. To be frank, we loved Matt's passion and knew he could do a good job, but he was a little bit underwater – he was doing a lot of books. And we were fearful that giving him another monthly was something where he could collapse under the weight of so much work so we were trying to, in the nicest of ways, discourage him from jumping in and adding another title to his schedule. But he wanted the thing so badly that I said, "Okay, write up some bullet points, pitch me your Thor. Let me know what you'd do with the character." He wrote up these beat sheets for many issues of "Thor," where he wanted to take the character, and I was blown away. Every one of these stories was epic and beyond anything I could imagine. He sold me and everyone here in editorial. Looking at the beat sheet he submitted, we could not not give him this book. He's going to bring the character to another level, which is perfect because of the impending movie. So, the bottom line is that we're going to have a rockin' Thor book and a very exhausted Matt Fraction to go along with it.
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Dammit!!!!

[darknessatnoon]

Has this part of the interview been talked about yet:
From Cup O' Joe
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24069
Related part below-
___
I'll be really honest with you. Matt has had a passion for Thor since he started here. He loves the character and just really gets wood for Thor. [Laughs] And when he heard that Thor was going to be available, he lobbied for the job. To be frank, we loved Matt's passion and knew he could do a good job, but he was a little bit underwater – he was doing a lot of books. And we were fearful that giving him another monthly was something where he could collapse under the weight of so much work so we were trying to, in the nicest of ways, discourage him from jumping in and adding another title to his schedule. But he wanted the thing so badly that I said, "Okay, write up some bullet points, pitch me your Thor. Let me know what you'd do with the character." He wrote up these beat sheets for many issues of "Thor," where he wanted to take the character, and I was blown away. Every one of these stories was epic and beyond anything I could imagine. He sold me and everyone here in editorial. Looking at the beat sheet he submitted, we could not not give him this book. He's going to bring the character to another level, which is perfect because of the impending movie. So, the bottom line is that we're going to have a rockin' Thor book and a very exhausted Matt Fraction to go along with it.
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eh, they kept insisting that Brubaker was still doing Uncanny until suddenly he wasn't.

[frostfire]

Has this part of the interview been talked about yet:
From Cup O' Joe
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24069
Related part below-
___
I'll be really honest with you. Matt has had a passion for Thor since he started here. He loves the character and just really gets wood for Thor. [Laughs] And when he heard that Thor was going to be available, he lobbied for the job. To be frank, we loved Matt's passion and knew he could do a good job, but he was a little bit underwater – he was doing a lot of books. And we were fearful that giving him another monthly was something where he could collapse under the weight of so much work so we were trying to, in the nicest of ways, discourage him from jumping in and adding another title to his schedule. But he wanted the thing so badly that I said, "Okay, write up some bullet points, pitch me your Thor. Let me know what you'd do with the character." He wrote up these beat sheets for many issues of "Thor," where he wanted to take the character, and I was blown away. Every one of these stories was epic and beyond anything I could imagine. He sold me and everyone here in editorial. Looking at the beat sheet he submitted, we could not not give him this book. He's going to bring the character to another level, which is perfect because of the impending movie. So, the bottom line is that we're going to have a rockin' Thor book and a very exhausted Matt Fraction to go along with it.
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Yeah well his uncanny run reads like he's very exhausted when he's worked on it. I gave up after sisterhood.

[tlp0708]

eh, they kept insisting that Brubaker was still doing Uncanny until suddenly he wasn't.

Thank you for being my shining beacon of hope.

[Ziral]

Hopefully, Fraction eventually tires out and leaves Uncanny before 2011.

[theXfactor]

eh, they kept insisting that Brubaker was still doing Uncanny until suddenly he wasn't.

Yeah. Did they ever announce Brubaker was leaving? Suddenly his name just stopped appearing in the credits.

[MarvelGirlBoy]

And the other boards say that the X-Books is a heap of negativity - this thread has left me feeling positively optimistic.

I think all these jokes about Fraction "getting wood" for Thor are telling - it's why he is abysmal on a team book - he is the ultimate fetishistic fanboy. So it would benefit everyone if he could go off and make reckless, fantastic love to the protagonists of solo titles, and stop raping the X-Men into damaged goods.

[MuhollandDriver]

Of course there is no real way of knowing, but him leaving after Second Coming feels right. It is around the same time he takes over Thor, correct?

Personally, i really need another writer soon if i am to keep reading Uncanny. These days, i read an issue, and then i feel drained and annoyed. i have never experienced this with a comic book. After awhile, any loyalty one has developed with a book can only last for so long.

Nonetheless, i am quite happy with many of the satellite books. X-Forces fulfills my taste for interesting intrigue, New Mutants gives me relationships/family/dynamics, Legacy gives me a good general all-around read.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

He's writing long form arcs for Iron Man, planning out three years of Thor (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24055). Can Fraction afford to spare any more time for Uncanny?

Hell, no. If he's still on the book after Second Coming I will be amazed.

With the likes of Kyle and Yost, PAD, and Carey waiting in the wings, and Bendis and Mark Millar both being quoted recently as wanting a stab at the X-Men, I'd say the likelihood of Fraction sticking around becoming VERY slim.

[ExodusCloak]

Bendis and Mark Millar both being quoted recently as wanting a stab at the X-Men, I'd say the likelihood of Fraction sticking around becoming VERY slim.

Bendis as well? You can add Loeb to that list.

And for what it's worth I don't see PAD or Carey writing Uncanny X-Men in the near future.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Bendis as well? You can add Loeb to that list.

And for what it's worth I don't see PAD or Carey writing Uncanny X-Men in the near future.

Possibly not. But you know what I mean.

A lot of big names would like that job. And Fraction is not as big a name as most of them.

[darknessatnoon]

Yeah. Did they ever announce Brubaker was leaving? Suddenly his name just stopped appearing in the credits.

It was announced that they would rotate arcs, and then Brubaker simply never got solicited.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

It was announced that they would rotate arcs, and then Brubaker simply never got solicited.

Yeah. Was a silent parting of the ways, that one.

But with somebody like Brubaker, somebody that established, publicly admitting he's leaving is likely to damage sales.

[DeadXMan]

God I hope and he takes Land with him.

then we can have Yost, Kyle, Choi and Crian lead Uncanny on a glorious path of Blood and mayhem to the promised land.


:redface:

[Azure]

That's it. I'm putting my name down for consideration as the next Uncanny X-Men writer.

[MuhollandDriver]

Yes, i have a hunch that a new team will take over after Second Coming. Then again, a hunch is a hunch.

As for who that could be...it might depend on what the setup of the teams look like post-Second Coming.

While i have loved what Kyle and Yost did on the last couple New X-Men arcs and currently on X-Force, i hope they can tone down the "glory violence". It matched well with X-Force, but often felt out of place in New X-Men. Then again, they do know and love the history of X-Books. That does help.

Paul Cornell might currently be in training for it. i liked what he did with Captain Britain and the MI13. i'd love to see someone like Marjorie Liu take over.

Heck....i think it could even be cool if Zeb Wells took over and the New Mutants officially became the Uncanny X-Men. i promise i am not saying that out of fanboy wankery. i just feel that Uncanny needs something seriously different at this point. Keep Wolverine on the team if You must.

[Azure]

Yes, i have a hunch that a new team will take over after Second Coming. Then again, a hunch is a hunch.

As for who that could be...it might depend on what the setup of the teams look like post-Second Coming.

While i have loved what Kyle and Yost did on the last couple New X-Men arcs and currently on X-Force, i hope they can tone down the "glory violence". It matched well with X-Force, but often felt out of place in New X-Men. Then again, they do know and love the history of X-Books. That does help.

Paul Cornell might currently be in training for it. i liked what he did with Captain Britain and the MI13. i'd love to see someone like Marjorie Liu take over.

Heck....i think it could even be cool if Zeb Wells took over and the New Mutants officially became the Uncanny X-Men. i promise i am not saying that out of fanboy wankery. i just feel that Uncanny needs something seriously different at this point. Keep Wolverine on the team if You must.

I can offer you an epic four-part Shakespearian romance story between a Russian Prostitute, Colossus, and a mutated crab from Hokkaido.

[rexpop]

A lot of big names would like that job. And Fraction is not as big a name as most of them.

Fraction's stock is rising at Marvel and with the Thor assignment its clear that JoeyQ likes what the guy has been doing to give him more and higher profile work. With movies galore coming down the pipeline with Iron Man and Thor I doubt that Fraction would still be on the books if Marvel didn't like what he was doing and had the confidence in him to keep doing it.

In terms of who will take over the X-men should faction leave, Bendis, Millar and Loeb are the most likely candidates. My money would be on Bendis once he's fishing with the Avengers franchise doing a Disassembled style revamp on the X-men franchise.

[MuhollandDriver]

I can offer you an epic four-part Shakespearian romance story between a Russian Prostitute, Colossus, and a mutated crab from Hokkaido.

Throw in Zsaji the alien healer and You have Yourself a deal.

[lockerogue]

Marjorie Liu on Uncanny and Dark Wolverine would be pretty amazing.

[MuhollandDriver]

Marjorie Liu on Uncanny and Dark Wolverine would be pretty amazing.

i agree. While i haven't been blown away by Bendis (his Avengers stuff is alright....doesn't float my boat.)....maybe a "dissasembled" reworking is needed. Then again....the X-Men have gone through a lot of "new directions" with mixed success.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Fraction's stock is rising at Marvel and with the Thor assignment its clear that JoeyQ likes what the guy has been doing to give him more and higher profile work. With movies galore coming down the pipeline with Iron Man and Thor I doubt that Fraction would still be on the books if Marvel didn't like what he was doing and had the confidence in him to keep doing it.

In terms of who will take over the X-men should faction leave, Bendis, Millar and Loeb are the most likely candidates. My money would be on Bendis once he's fishing with the Avengers franchise doing a Disassembled style revamp on the X-men franchise.

Mark Millar recently spoke on his own forum of his an Bryan Hitch's long hinted run on the X-Men very much being a WHEN rather than an IF.

But to be honest I think that the core books have very much needed a full Disassembled style revamp for the last couple of years. The direction of the team is really a non-event right now. It's lost its way.

And Bendis actually is the best guy to go to for those kinds of shake up.

[Azure]

I promise to write actual complete stories, too. I am the #1 candidate for this position.

[boodha]

Fraction's stock is rising at Marvel and with the Thor assignment its clear that JoeyQ likes what the guy has been doing to give him more and higher profile work. With movies galore coming down the pipeline with Iron Man and Thor I doubt that Fraction would still be on the books if Marvel didn't like what he was doing and had the confidence in him to keep doing it.

In terms of who will take over the X-men should faction leave, Bendis, Millar and Loeb are the most likely candidates. My money would be on Bendis once he's fishing with the Avengers franchise doing a Disassembled style revamp on the X-men franchise.

:eek: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
...

Ahem, well, all of a sudden Fraction doesn't seems so bad to me...

[Wind-Breaker]

I don't see Fraction leaving anytime soon. In interviews he comes off like he has the most fun writing X-Men. Yost and Kyle are being pulled in a different directions between movies, DC, cartoons, etc, that I don't think they'd have room to fit in Uncanny.

[Slung]

I don't see Fraction leaving anytime soon. In interviews he comes off like he has the most fun writing X-Men. Yost and Kyle are being pulled in a different directions between movies, DC, cartoons, etc, that I don't think they'd have room to fit in Uncanny.

Stop trying to ruin my day!

[direction9]

fraction bitchfest 9000 sign in desk this way....

[Wind-Breaker]

Stop trying to ruin my day!

....Jean Grey will never come back

There are no immediate plans for Rachel Grey

Emma Frost is an Omega level telepath

j/k :wink:

[Faded]

Mark Millar recently spoke on his own forum of his an Bryan Hitch's long hinted run on the X-Men very much being a WHEN rather than an IF.

But to be honest I think that the core books have very much needed a full Disassembled style revamp for the last couple of years. The direction of the team is really a non-event right now. It's lost its way.

And Bendis actually is the best guy to go to for those kinds of shake up.

Hitch is boring. McNiven!!!! I would have more confidence in Millar if he didn't say he liked Rachel Grey. Its like when I knew Alonso would bring sadness to my X-Men when he listed off his favorite characters.

Bendis is actually the kind of guy with the big ideas that would do good on the X-Men. I don't always love his work, but his concepts are always a lot of fun and seem to inspire good ideas.

[DeadXMan]

....Jean Grey will never come back

There are no immediate plans for Rachel Grey

Emma Frost is an Omega level telepath

j/k :wink:


urge to kill......RISING!!

[darknessatnoon]

Hitch is boring. McNiven!!!! I would have more confidence in Millar if he didn't say he liked Rachel Grey.

Sometimes you discuss Wind Dancer, and I don't care. Then you post something like this and I fall back in love.

[Wind-Breaker]

urge to kill......RISING!!

I guess we've found DeadXMan's trigger scent. Trust me it was painful for me to type that post lol.

[Jackraow21]

Its like when I knew Alonso would bring sadness to my X-Men when he listed off his favorite characters.

I seem to remember Cable, Bishop and Forge being among those favorites. He sure as hell didn't do them any favors. Cable was sent off to some future that will never happen and got old (while his series continued to shed readers because it was boring). Bishop lost an arm and an eye and became a psychotic villain. And Forge went mad and was killed by his fellow X-men in Astonishing.

If those are three of his favorites, I'd hate to see what he'd do to characters he didn't like. :eek:

[Omega Alpha]

Oh, I want them to stay together. I just liked the threat Namor seemed to be presenting. Now I don't really take him seriously though. Just go live in the ocean and relax Namor.

Why would you want Fraction to repeat a bad 60's love triangle (Reed-Sue-Namor) and an even worse 80's love triangle (Scott-Jean-Logan) at the same time?

In anyway, I don't see Fraction leaving. The X-books have a tradition of keeping writers on books even many years after they are recognized nearly unanimously as having mediocre or bad runs and sales begin to drop (see Lobdell, Claremont's return, Austen, etc).

[Filthy Mutie]

I would give Millar and Hitch an enthusiastic try. Millar has some hits and misses and I only like when Hitch draws for him, but I'd prefer he use a lot of references and create a "movie in print" rather than draw everyone tiny-eyed and flat-faced.

I feel like we're at a point where we can only go up from here. Plus, I bet Millar has it in him to have at least one person call someone a "moron" in each issue.

[DavidMunroe]

Who is Will Fraction?

[Prodigy55]

No Kyle & Yost either. We don't need them with full control of Emma.

[Maestro]

I hope Fraction stays only to piss you guys off. besides, y'all wouldn't know what to do without the monthly Uncanny threads

[xfire]

I hope Bendis writes Uncanny just to see everyone's reaction :evilsmile:

[deathsatan]

Fraction will be around a while. I'm looking forward to Thor though.

[witness]

Personally I think they should just give Fraction a "Further adventures of Cyclops and Emma Frost series", If they are as popular as Marvel and MF think then the book should easily break into the top 10 comics sold.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

No Kyle & Yost either. We don't need them with full control of Emma.

I actually think that their New X-Men run was the last time I saw anybody write a genuinely believable Emma Frost. Rather than Jean Grey with a bleach job.


I hope Fraction stays only to piss you guys off. besides, y'all wouldn't know what to do without the monthly Uncanny threads

Start on X-Men Forever, instead... :cool:

[ExodusCloak]

Yeah. Was a silent parting of the ways, that one.

But with somebody like Brubaker, somebody that established, publicly admitting he's leaving is likely to damage sales.

The Bru situation was different though not only was he getting abused by fans on message boards but he was getting abused by reviewers. He probably thought that it's not worth the trouble. Fraction at least has reviewers on his side.




And Bendis actually is the best guy to go to for those kinds of shake up.

Bendis? People are bitchin' about mischaracterization and you want Bendis to take over? So they can all speak like Spider-Man yes? And Jessica Jones & her baby can move to Utopia?

[The Sword Is Drawn]

The Bru situation was different though not only was he getting abused by fans on message boards but he was getting abused by reviewers. He probably thought that it's not worth the trouble. Fraction at least has reviewers on his side.

Not the reviewers I trust, mind.

But, yeah. Brubaker was doing too many books at that point, and Uncanny was the one which suffered the most. It was nowhere near as his Captain America, Daredevil or Criminal.


Bendis? People are bitchin' about mischaracterization and you want Bendis to take over? So they can all speak like Spider-Man yes? And Jessica Jones & her baby can move to Utopia?

I wouldn't expect to see Avengers that present if he took the reigns. He'd be starting again, afresh. And trying to mix in a few fan favourites with cornerstone characters, in defining a proper direction for the book. That is what he did with New Avengers. It's what I'd expect here.

And if he did I think that Dazzler would stand a pretty strong chance of being on the team. Didn't he want her for New Avengers? :biggrin:

[darknessatnoon]

Bendis would be horrible. The X-Men would all start stuttering. No thank you.

[Majinoaw]

Bendis would be horrible. The X-Men would all start stuttering. No thank you.

Bendis could plot, but his dialogue would be horrible.
Plus the X-Men are very different in personality. Bendis has a way of writing everyone the same and making them wisecracking smart alecs... unless they are Luke Cage.

[darknessatnoon]

Bendis could plot, but his dialogue would be horrible.
Plus the X-Men are very different in personality. Bendis has a way of writing everyone the same and making them wisecracking smart alecs... unless they are Luke Cage.

Do you think Storm would be his nuLuke Cage?

[Home made ectoplasm]

Bendis could plot, but his dialogue would be horrible.
Plus the X-Men are very different in personality. Bendis has a way of writing everyone the same and making them wisecracking smart alecs... unless they are Luke Cage.

I agree. Say what you like about Fraction, he gives each character their own distinct voice.

[Mikey Brown]

Bendis on Uncanny? I wouldnt mind but you know he would kill a lot of obscure mutants and that would piss alot of people here off. Could be interesting!

[Pixie_Solanas]

Bendis would be horrible. The X-Men would all start stuttering. No thank you.

Good lord, no more interminable interlocking speech bubbles in a tedious Bendis-exchange.

"You didn't send the email"
"I wont send the email"
"You won't send the email?"
"Nope"
"You did send the email"

I'd rather stick with Fraction, that's how much I dislike Bendis's shit-scripts.

[The M.E.]

not a fan of bendis in the least, it might be what would actually finally make me drop uncanny. i'm not exactly thrilled with uncanny at the moment, but i can find enough things that i like to keep me around (i actually like fraptions, fight scenes, and dazzler cameo > no dazzler at all)