Jessica Jones = most unattractive woman in the MU?

[Pixie_Solanas]

http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/5/56/Jessicajones.jpg/440px-Jessicajones.jpg

[psycwave]

Yes! BURN THE WITCH!

[GozertheGozarian]

I really hate the hyper realistic style of art common in comics now.

[Sighphi]

http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/5/56/Jessicajones.jpg/440px-Jessicajones.jpg

Dude, that's probably the copied image of some one's wife.
They are going to be pi$$ed .

[Libaax]

Thats some nose :P

[bebopeva88]

No way.

In Alias, she was drawn as frumpy because she was down on herself and going through a rough patch. Despite that, you could tell that she could be attractive again if she wanted to, and simply took care of herself...even at her worst in Alias though, she wasn't super unattractive, and certainly not the most unattractive woman in the MU.

Post-Alias, she's been drawn as something of a generic brunette hottie, "uniquely" faced Mahew Pulse cover notwithstanding.

[Maestro]

no. stop trolling Alias fans!!

[Syrant]

I don't find her ugly. They just messed up with her nose in that picture. It looks off.

But, since I don't want to be a buzz kill, "Even Spider-Man looks hotter then her."

[coveredinbees]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/26301/595620-untitled_super.jpg

[Pixie_Solanas]

Luke Cage could have bedded down with any prime piece of furry ass, including Greer Garson.

Why'd he settle for this Swanson's TV Dinner?

P.S. this thread dovetails nicely as an addendum to the "Bendis = frothy gynophobe" barnbuster.

[bebopeva88]

Luke Cage could have bedded down with any prime piece of furry ass, including Greer Garson.

Why'd he settle for this Swanson's TV Dinner?



Because she let him #^$%#^#&^%* and @%$#^$#%&$^% her $#%#@$%^$#%^&. :wink:

[coveredinbees]

Even in her fantasy wedding she can't manage to look nice:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27967/685864-capamerica523002_super.jpg
Look at the woman in the front row's disgust! She's ashamed for her.

[psycwave]

Luke Cage obviously has low self esteem.

[Pixie_Solanas]

<chuckle>
http://www.readaboutcomics.com/images/040704_alias03.jpg

[Libaax]

She has at least the garantied big boobs of mainstream supehero comics ;)

[Morlock50]

<chuckle>
http://www.readaboutcomics.com/images/040704_alias03.jpg

Not at all. I'd totally hit that.

[4sake]

Its depends on the artist..

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/242920-132977-jessica-jones_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/132977-jessica-jones/105-242920/)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/242924-93856-jessica-jones_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/93856-jessica-jones/105-242924/)

[Sighphi]

Not at all. I'd totally hit that.

EEEWWWW!!
She looks like Janeane Garofalo there.

[mikekerr3]

EEEWWWW!!
She looks like Janeane Garofalo there.

If I was single I'd hit that too:smile: Smart women are better in bed.

[ResIpsaLoquitur]

Jessica is totally beat by...

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/uncanny-x-men/457-2.jpg

[4sake]

EEEWWWW!!
She looks like Janeane Garofalo there.

There nothing wrong with the way Janeane Garofalo looks imo..:cool:

[Monty_Cristo]

http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/5/56/Jessicajones.jpg/440px-Jessicajones.jpg

wow. quick, what's the opposite of an er*ction? someone should jokerize that pic. she's got a heath ledger thing going on there, around the eyes.

[Monty_Cristo]

If I was single I'd hit that too:smile: Smart women are better in bed.

looks like someone already hit Jessica; like Mike Tyson, across the face.

[keilthetarheel]

Luke Cage obviously has low self esteem.

naw - he probably just had on beer goggles

[Monty_Cristo]

Luke Cage obviously has low self esteem.

as does Captain America; judging by Bendis' bathroom reading materi...i mean What If story.


naw - he probably just had on beer goggles

he also normally sees her from behind.

[IronMagnus]

If I was single I'd hit that too:smile: Smart women are better in bed.

So what does that have to do with Janeane Garofalo?? :confused: :biggrin:

[Monty_Cristo]

i bet she smells like pickles and underarm

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/FL_fig04.jpg

[coveredinbees]

wow. quick, what's the opposite of an er*ction? someone should jokerize that pic. she's got a heath ledger thing going on there, around the eyes.
Antonyms:
destruction, disfigurement, disorganization, ruin, ruins

It looks like she took a baseball bat to the face as a child. Is that revealed in Alias?

[Monty_Cristo]

Antonyms:
destruction, disfigurement, disorganization, ruin, ruins

It looks like she took a baseball bat to the face as a child. Is that revealed in Alias?

not unless the Purple Man did it. she was in a car accident at some point, though.

[durty dee]

Daredevil's Blind Ex wife is the ugliest.....

[psycwave]

I have thrown up foods that look better than Jessica Jones.

[Adam K]

http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/5/56/Jessicajones.jpg/440px-Jessicajones.jpg

You guys do realize that this is just a picture of Bendis with long hair on top, right?

[Sighphi]

You guys do realize that this is just a picture of Bendis with long hair on top, right?

By god he is right!
This man is sick!!!!

http://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/brian-michael-bendis.jpg


http://i47.tinypic.com/30sge86.jpg

[Will.S]

She's not unattractive, she strikes me more as just an average female than your usual buxom Marvel babe.

But then again it depends on who draws her.

[Monty_Cristo]

You guys do realize that this is just a picture of Bendis with long hair on top, right?

looks more like a female Mole Man.

[RolandJP]

Those who say she is not attractive post your pics here please.

:gets popcorn:


http://www.popular-pics.com/PPImages/Mona-Lisa-Tour-USA.jpg

[Joe Franklin]

http://www.popular-pics.com/PPImages/Mona-Lisa-Tour-USA.jpg

:eek: Is that Paris Hilton's ugly face? It's not her boobs, Paris has small b-cups.

[Monty_Cristo]

Those who say she is not attractive post your pics here please.

:gets popcorn:

why? playgirl not getting the job done?

[psycwave]

Those who say she is not attractive post your pics here please.

:gets popcorn:


Stop trying to save my pics to your desktop perv.

[RolandJP]

why? playgirl not getting the job done?


oooooh defensive.

[Monty_Cristo]

oooooh defensive.

says the buzzkill... *whistles*

[psycwave]

By god he is right!
This man is sick!!!!

http://i47.tinypic.com/30sge86.jpg

That is just wrong on so many levels.

[Jess C.H.]

...........

[HopeLantern]

Because she let him #^$%#^#&^%* and @%$#^$#%&$^% her $#%#@$%^$#%^&. :wink:

She Hulk is known to do that, too, after a few drinks I've heard.

[bebopeva88]

She Hulk is known to do that, too, after a few drinks I've heard.

Yeah, but Luke Cage doesn't wanna go where the Juggernaut's been.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

If I was single I'd hit that too:smile: Smart women are better in bed.

Agreed.

But seriously, it depends on the artist. The Cheung example above being the prime example. Not everybody draws her badly.

I find Jones attractive. Girl next door attractive, sure. But she's infinitely more interesting to me than, say, Ms Marvel. Anybody who read Alias and DIDN'T find theselves with a bit of a crush on Jessica Jones is a bit... wrong, in my opinion. :biggrin:

[Justin K.]

Her personality brings out the worst in her. Ever see someone attractive and think they would be the greatest but then get to know them and find out they're a bad person? They just look less appealing with a personality to match; bitch brings out the worst in people sometimes. In the case of Jessica Jones, I feel this way, though she's not a bad person, as in hurting people and stealing their stuff, she just has an unbearable personality, which is just as bad.

[The Confessor]

Of course, as others have said, it all depends on the artist but generally, I don't think that Jessica Jones is ever drawn as ugly. She's just more normal looking than 99% of the other uber hot, airbrushed model superheroines that are cavorting around the Marvel Universe. Even in that pic from the front cover of The Pulse she doesn't actually look ugly, just realistically attractive...actually, she looks a little bit like my friend Jenny in that cover. :smile:

I realise that this thread is somewhat in jest but if anything, folks should be applauding Marvel for making such a high profile character look more realistically attractive than just about any other female hero in the MU. In real life, the majority of girls don't look like Claudia Schiffer or Emma Frost but that doesn't mean that their ugly...just that they look normal.

I bet Jessica Jones is a hell of a lot closer in looks to the female posters on these forums than Ms. Marvel is, for instance.

[jackdaw53]

I'm talking about the way she was portrayed in Alias.

First up she looked like a real woman, a good thing for me.

Then as the story progressed it became obvious that she was brave, loyal, and intelligent... and incredibly "down on herself". I thought the way it was slowly revealed why such a good person should be disgusted with herself was one of the best character studies in mainstream comics.

By the time she stood up to her greatest fear, I was backing her all the way... one of those rare times when I forgot I was reading about a made up character.

The whole package... bags of character.... looking like an attractive real woman (as opposed to average Marvel "yet another fantasy babe" ) made her for me the most attractive Marvel heroine. By a country mile.

[RolandJP]

Yeah, but Luke Cage doesn't wanna go where the Juggernaut's been.

After Juggy, sex must be like throwing a hot-dog down an empty hallway.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I'm with Jackdaw on this. Totally agree.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

After Juggy, sex must be like throwing a hot-dog down an empty hallway.

But with green walls.

[Libaax]

Yeah seriously mainstream comics need more female characters like Jessica. Someone that looks good in a normal way like a real woman.

Not the airbrushed,supermodel looking ones with huge breast.

[The Confessor]

I'm talking about the way she was portrayed in Alias.

First up she looked like a real woman, a good thing for me.

Then as the story progressed it became obvious that she was brave, loyal, and intelligent... and incredibly "down on herself". I thought the way it was slowly revealed why such a good person should be disgusted with herself was one of the best character studies in mainstream comics.

By the time she stood up to her greatest fear, I was backing her all the way... one of those rare times when I forgot I was reading about a made up character.

The whole package... bags of character.... looking like an attractive real woman (as opposed to average Marvel "yet another fantasy babe" ) made her for me the most attractive Marvel heroine. By a country mile.


Yeah, that's kind of what I was trying to say in the post above yours...only not quite as well. I agree that Jessica not being another unrealistic, Barbie doll-style heroine is a good thing and very refreshing.

[Ziggy Stardust]

She has at least the garantied big boobs of mainstream supehero comics ;)

And they can always make them bigger and claim it was due to becoming a mother.

[giovedi]

Her personality brings out the worst in her. Ever see someone attractive and think they would be the greatest but then get to know them and find out they're a bad person? They just look less appealing with a personality to match; bitch brings out the worst in people sometimes. In the case of Jessica Jones, I feel this way, though she's not a bad person, as in hurting people and stealing their stuff, she just has an unbearable personality, which is just as bad.

I tend to agree with this.
I personally don't think she's particular attractive, inside or out. Apparently she has some friends though, so she must not be that unbearable to those around her.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I tend to agree with this.
I personally don't think she's particular attractive, inside or out. Apparently she has some friends though, so she must not be that unbearable to those around her.

Even if Spider-man knows her best as 'Coma Girl'. :biggrin:

[worstblogever]

As long as there are Morlocks still alive, girl's safe.

[giovedi]

Even if Spider-man knows her best as 'Coma Girl'. :biggrin:

Wasn't "Coma Girl" Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman)?

[timbox]

I don't appreciate you people trying to excuse her dumpy appearance as "normal looking." She's not even trying; no wonder Cage makes her stay in the house.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Wasn't "Coma Girl" Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman)?

Nah. It was Jones. Revealed in a recent issue of New Avengers, when they forced Spider-man to reveal his identity to the team. Jones had a crush on him back in High School. He remembered her as 'coma girl,' due to a brief period she had spent in a coma.


I don't appreciate you people trying to excuse her dumpy appearance as "normal looking." She's not even trying; no wonder Cage makes her stay in the house.

This kind of comment is everything that is wrong with the world. :biggrin:

[giovedi]

Nah. It was Jones. Revealed in a recent issue of New Avengers, when they forced Spider-man to reveal his identity to the team. Jones had a crush on him back in High School. He remembered her as 'coma girl,' due to a brief period she had spent in a coma.

Too many Jessicas. I was confused. Thanks for clearing that up :)
Went back and looked up New Avengers #51 where that was shown

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

Its depends on the artist..

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/242920-132977-jessica-jones_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/132977-jessica-jones/105-242920/)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/242924-93856-jessica-jones_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/93856-jessica-jones/105-242924/)

I find it hilarious that most people are ignoring this post. :tongue: :biggrin:

But yeah, it depends on the artist.

[John Zaleski]

http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/5/56/Jessicajones.jpg/440px-Jessicajones.jpg

i wouldn't do her with her mom's dick!

[The Confessor]

I don't appreciate you people trying to excuse her dumpy appearance as "normal looking." She's not even trying; no wonder Cage makes her stay in the house.


...*sigh*. I don't even know where to begin with this, it's so wrong.




i wouldn't do her with her mom's dick!


Heh! You stay classy. :wink:

[Pixie_Solanas]

Yeah, that's kind of what I was trying to say in the post above yours...only not quite as well. I agree that Jessica not being another unrealistic, Barbie doll-style heroine is a good thing and very refreshing.

Refreshing? That whole tortured anti-hero bull is as cliched as they get. Really?

Bendis isn't known for his complex character studies, unless you count tortured accountant/hot lesbian Vicky Hand as a shining example of great character work.


D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;10157566']I find it hilarious that most people are ignoring this post. :tongue: :biggrin:

But yeah, it depends on the artist.

It looks like Jim Cheung's work in the first img. Cheung does ALL his women that way.

The second one is completely awful. Doesn't even come close to any other depictions of her, it's like an entirely different broad from a different ethnicity.

[Sighphi]

D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite;10157566']I find it hilarious that most people are ignoring this post. :tongue: :biggrin:

But yeah, it depends on the artist.

Because those are obviously wrong depictions.

[lou-bert vs. q-bert]

It's definitely dependent on the artist. But I think it's more like Jewel vs. Jessica Jones.

Jewel was the typical bimbo superhero with the purple hair, tight costume and heavy makeup. I think Bagley first drew her like that. Gaydos draws her as the everywoman (though that seems to be how he draws all women), still feminine, no makeup, a little weight gain, yet easy on the eyes and attainable.

Sure, Luke could have married any hottie. But as we know, he loved her when she was a mess.

[Bevbos]

Yeah. I echo the above. I love cheesecake as much as the next guy, but Jessica Jones was drawn like a REAL woman, including with real sexuality. Much hotter than, say, Psylocke.

Don't get me wrong: I love my Black Cat and Ms. Marvel as much as the next guy, and that one pic where she looks like a female Bendis is plain fugly, but Jessica Jones ain't the least attractive gal in the Marvel U.

[giovedi]

Sure, Luke could have married any hottie. But as we know, he loved her when she was a mess.

He didn't just marry her because she was pregnant?

[lou-bert vs. q-bert]

He didn't just marry her because she was pregnant?Nope. You've got to read The Pulse #12. His reasons are very profound and touching.

[Hrist]

I find Jones attractive. Girl next door attractive, sure. But she's infinitely more interesting to me than, say, Ms Marvel. Anybody who read Alias and DIDN'T find theselves with a bit of a crush on Jessica Jones is a bit... wrong, in my opinion. :biggrin:

Some of us just aren't attracted to women. :redface:

But I like Jessica Jones, I think she was very interesting and well-written in Alias, don't see why a women wearing sweats is a bad thing, and generally don't get the hate. And yeah, a women wearing sweats in comics is obviously something unusual, because people seem to have made a whole thread about it and how ugly she is. But y'know, haters gonna hate. (And I know most of the posts here were jokes, but since some people seem to have begun discussing in earnest.)

[Pixie_Solanas]

Women should wear sweats on their own time and not my in comics.

[Cth]

http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/5/56/Jessicajones.jpg/440px-Jessicajones.jpg

I think the artist was trying to go for a Rebecca (the Clearasil Girl) Gayheart look.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001261/

The face looks familiar.

[Talisman]

Her nose is a Jewish stereotype!!!! I DEMAND!!! that she be burned at the stake as well as Bendis to be bashed in the face for creating such a schlumpy bitch!!!!

Oh, and Happy Hanukkah!!!

[Talisman]

Nope. You've got to read The Pulse #12. His reasons are very profound and touching.

He didn't want her to come after him for child support. What an upstanding schmuck.

[RolandJP]

I don't appreciate you people trying to excuse her dumpy appearance as "normal looking." She's not even trying; no wonder Cage makes her stay in the house.

Get back in the kitchen and take off those shoes! :tongue:

[Vic Vega]

By god he is right!
This man is sick!!!!

http://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/brian-michael-bendis.jpg


http://i47.tinypic.com/30sge86.jpg

This explains many things.

Things I did not necessarily WANT explained. :eek:

[The Confessor]

Refreshing? That whole tortured anti-hero bull is as cliched as they get.


I wasn't talking about her character so much as the fact that she isn't normally drawn as some unobtainable, fanboy fantasy. That is refreshing in mainstream comics and that was my point really.

[Vic Vega]

Refreshing? That whole tortured anti-hero bull is as cliched as they get. Really?

Bendis isn't known for his complex character studies, unless you count tortured accountant/hot lesbian Vicky Hand as a shining example of great character work.


Is Agent Hand supposed to be tortured? Near as I can tell she got fired because she wrote a memo to the head of her company/organization telling him he didn’t know what he was doing.

Since that kind of thing will always get you canned in the private sector and is career suicide in the public sector I gotta figure the only thing that’s tormenting her is her utter lack of common sense.

[psycwave]

Because those are obviously wrong depictions.

Plus the second image is still completely fugly.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Is Agent Hand supposed to be tortured? Near as I can tell she got fired because she wrote a memo to the head of her company/organization telling him he didn’t know what he was doing.

Since that kind of thing will always get you canned in the private sector and is career suicide in the public sector I gotta figure the only thing that’s tormenting her is her utter lack of common sense.

That and her hot lipstick lover/sparring partner won't return her calls. Even AFTER presenting her ass in submission after being bested in the boxing ring.

[daviddonne]

I think that this thread in general, and the overwhelming majority of the comments on it, just speak to the what is, still, after all this time, a major problem in comic books and fandom.

People hate Jessica Jones because she doesn't fit into the three or four acceptable models of female characters for comic book readers. She's not an untouchable goddess (Storm, Wonder Woman), an approachable girl next door type (Kitty Pryde) or a WWE Diva type (She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel). Or for that matter a wicked whore type.

Sure, she's not a supermodel. Apparently you guys still need all female characters to look that way. And she's written as a real person, not a superheroine, not a Mary Sue or whatever, not a idealized girlfriend type. And this generates all this bile among the comic fan community? This kind of thinking is still holding this medium back, and justifying the popular image of fanboys as socially maladjusted, masturbatory troglodytes.

Personally, I find Jessica Jones to be among the most appealing female characters in Marvel's history. Alias was an amazing, unprecedented book, and to me Bendis' finest work (although I understand why USM gets the accolades), and I was thrilled when they decided to bring that story fully into the 616 continuity.

People wonder why girls and women still don't read superhero comics. It's not because there is a lack of "strong" female characters, if anything Marvel tends to make its women more powerful than its men. It's because the female characters are still ciphers, simplistic types that aren't allowed to share the kinds of flaws as the men. Jessica Jones is an exception, and look at the reaction to her. Marvel needs many more Jessicas, and (to make that statement literal) I'm hoping that Bendis brings Spider-Woman, with all her baggage, into this level of character.

I think people really need to reevaluate why they have such a negative reaction to Jessica Jones, and what that says about themselves. It's very much analogous to the strong reaction Black Panther provokes.

[giovedi]

People wonder why girls and women still don't read superhero comics. It's not because there is a lack of "strong" female characters, if anything Marvel tends to make its women more powerful than its men. It's because the female characters are still ciphers, simplistic types that aren't allowed to share the kinds of flaws as the men. Jessica Jones is an exception, and look at the reaction to her. Marvel needs many more Jessicas, and (to make that statement literal) I'm hoping that Bendis brings Spider-Woman, with all her baggage, into this level of character.

I think people really need to reevaluate why they have such a negative reaction to Jessica Jones, and what that says about themselves. It's very much analogous to the strong reaction Black Panther provokes.

You forget about the female readers who don't like Jessica Jones. I don't care about what she looks like... just like I don't read Ms. Marvel because she's hot. Not all readers are using comics as their personal schlicking material. I read comics for the characters and their stories. Jessica Jones just doesn't appeal to me... and that doesn't mean that's saying anything about me except for maybe "I have my own opinion"

I don't really see how she's written as a "real person" (except for that one page where's she's sitting on the toilet, musing about something)... I don't know any people like her, honestly, and if I did, we probably wouldn't get along. I don't want to see more Jessica Jones in the Marvel Universe. I think just one is enough.

[Freakzeek]

I think that this thread in general, and the overwhelming majority of the comments on it, just speak to the what is, still, after all this time, a major problem in comic books and fandom.

People hate Jessica Jones because she doesn't fit into the three or four acceptable models of female characters for comic book readers. She's not an untouchable goddess (Storm, Wonder Woman), an approachable girl next door type (Kitty Pryde) or a WWE Diva type (She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel). Or for that matter a wicked whore type.

Sure, she's not a supermodel. Apparently you guys still need all female characters to look that way. And she's written as a real person, not a superheroine, not a Mary Sue or whatever, not a idealized girlfriend type. And this generates all this bile among the comic fan community? This kind of thinking is still holding this medium back, and justifying the popular image of fanboys as socially maladjusted, masturbatory troglodytes.

Personally, I find Jessica Jones to be among the most appealing female characters in Marvel's history. Alias was an amazing, unprecedented book, and to me Bendis' finest work (although I understand why USM gets the accolades), and I was thrilled when they decided to bring that story fully into the 616 continuity.

People wonder why girls and women still don't read superhero comics. It's not because there is a lack of "strong" female characters, if anything Marvel tends to make its women more powerful than its men. It's because the female characters are still ciphers, simplistic types that aren't allowed to share the kinds of flaws as the men. Jessica Jones is an exception, and look at the reaction to her. Marvel needs many more Jessicas, and (to make that statement literal) I'm hoping that Bendis brings Spider-Woman, with all her baggage, into this level of character.

I think people really need to reevaluate why they have such a negative reaction to Jessica Jones, and what that says about themselves. It's very much analogous to the strong reaction Black Panther provokes.

Finally Somebody Gets It.

[psycwave]

You forget about the female readers who don't like Jessica Jones. I don't care about what she looks like... just like I don't read Ms. Marvel because she's hot. Not all readers are using comics as their personal schlicking material. I read comics for the characters and their stories. Jessica Jones just doesn't appeal to me... and that doesn't mean that's saying anything about me except for maybe "I have my own opinion"

I don't really see how she's written as a "real person" (except for that one page where's she's sitting on the toilet, musing about something)... I don't know any people like her, honestly, and if I did, we probably wouldn't get along. I don't want to see more Jessica Jones in the Marvel Universe. I think just one is enough.

Finally somebody gets it.

[coveredinbees]

I think she's boring and irritating.


As long as there are Morlocks still alive, girl's safe.
Callisto and Skids are gorgeous.


Women should wear sweats on their own time and not my in comics.
No one should ever wear sweats.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Finally Somebody Gets It.

Yeah, the subtle comparison to the Black Panther racists was a nice, brick-to-the-windshield touch of grandstanding.

Jessica Jones is the worst kind of cipher. It's a pandering, insipid, paper-thin characterization of the worst female characteristics and yet the basement boys rally around her like some sort of feminist ideal when, in fact, she's the favoured token of gynophobic writer and is more cardboard than the tired anti-tit rants that come out of these repressed men.

[Hrist]

In conclusion: if you don't like Jessica Jones, you're sexist. If you do like Jessica Jones, you're also sexist, and you possibly live in a basement. Everyone who has an opinion is male, and probably sees comics as masturbatory aids.

Good to know.

[Pixie_Solanas]

If you do like Jessica Jones, you're also sexist, and you possibly live in a basement.
.

And you have an oedipal complex and you like your mom when she wears schlub casualwear.

That sums it up.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Some of us just aren't attracted to women. :redface:

Well, I doubt too many will hold that against you. But I think you know what I meant. Certainly no offence was intended. :smile:


But I like Jessica Jones, I think she was very interesting and well-written in Alias, don't see why a women wearing sweats is a bad thing, and generally don't get the hate. And yeah, a women wearing sweats in comics is obviously something unusual, because people seem to have made a whole thread about it and how ugly she is. But y'know, haters gonna hate. (And I know most of the posts here were jokes, but since some people seem to have begun discussing in earnest.)

Exactly.

[Monty_Cristo]

People wonder why girls and women still don't read superhero comics. It's not because there is a lack of "strong" female characters, if anything Marvel tends to make its women more powerful than its men. It's because the female characters are still ciphers, simplistic types that aren't allowed to share the kinds of flaws as the men.

what does this have to do with her being hideous? :confused:

[daviddonne]

Yeah, the subtle comparison to the Black Panther racists was a nice, brick-to-the-windshield touch of grandstanding.

Jessica Jones is the worst kind of cipher. It's a pandering, insipid, paper-thin characterization of the worst female characteristics and yet the basement boys rally around her like some sort of feminist ideal when, in fact, she's the favoured token of gynophobic writer and is more cardboard than the tired anti-tit rants that come out of these repressed men.

You are a very amusing person. I don't think that your whole "Bendis is a gynophobe" shtick works well with the whole objectification of women angle you seem to be pursuing. And "Bendis isn't known for character studies" in the thread about the character who was the focus on the most character explorative title in Marvel's history?

Sure, Bendis is a gynophobe, homophobe, and probably an anti-Semite. It's a good thing this can be pointed out by such progressive adults as those who start discussion threads about the "ugliest" female comic book characters. Keep fighting the power!

This is really an anti-Bendis troll shark jumping moment here. Running a little short on ammunition? I'm sure there are plenty of legit things to criticize about his work, if you're so inclined. But one of his characters is too physically ugly for your pretty comic book sensibilities, and he's afraid of women? Hmmm... I heard Obama is a Nazi, too.

[psycwave]

She is just a horrible character. Her ugliness is only a fraction of why she should be burned at the stake.

I would rather read a team book featuring T'Challa and Stature rather than anything involving Jessica Jones. Seriously.

[BooCoo]

It's pretty funny that the standard, bland "hot" female characters are supposedly all that, when they're really pretty cookie cutter except for hair color and costumes. In real life, attractiveness is different things to different people. Some think skinny is "hot". Some thing curves are "hot". Some think rawboned is "hot. Some think chunky is "hot." So it's a relative term that doesn't mean much. People can be "hot" and have completely different looks, and this includes the male characters. Some people just have a fetish for a particular feature and immediately label it "hot."

arguing over fictional characters hotness is weird, anyway. :wink:

[DetectiveDupin]

No, Carol Danvers is.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

No, Carol Danvers is.

Carol Danvers actually IS a pretty repellent character at heart.

[tkitna]

http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/5/56/Jessicajones.jpg/440px-Jessicajones.jpg

That picture looks like Caterina Scorsone. She's some girl that I saw on the the Sci-fi channel starring in some futuristic portrayel of 'Alice And Wonderland'.

http://www.rtlklub.hu/cache/leadimages/184989_1217933437_230x173.jpg

[carabas]

People wonder why girls and women still don't read superhero comics. It's not because there is a lack of "strong" female characters, if anything Marvel tends to make its women more powerful than its men.Of course, nine times out of then these women then can't handle that kind of power, turn insane and/or evil, and have to be killed of for their own good.

Otherwise, excellent post in this depressing morass of blatant mysoginy.

[Your Imaginary Pal]

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h125/Baqula/nightmare-fuel.gif
Brian Michael Bendis, ALIAS, Jessica Jones.

[worstblogever]

I also forgot to include:
http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/2/22/Mess.jpg/440px-Mess.jpg
or...
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/0/04/Sharon_Ventura_(Earth-616)_002.jpg/150px-Sharon_Ventura_(Earth-616)_002.jpg

You get the idea.

[flashdisk]

http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/5/56/Jessicajones.jpg/440px-Jessicajones.jpg

She looks fine, pretty good actually. There's nothing wrong with her. She looks pretty upset though.

[Frank]

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h125/Baqula/nightmare-fuel.gif
Brian Michael Bendis, ALIAS, Jessica Jones.

You should post this on the Bendis Boards. :biggrin:

[Frank]

I think that this thread in general, and the overwhelming majority of the comments on it, just speak to the what is, still, after all this time, a major problem in comic books and fandom.

People hate Jessica Jones because she doesn't fit into the three or four acceptable models of female characters for comic book readers. She's not an untouchable goddess (Storm, Wonder Woman), an approachable girl next door type (Kitty Pryde) or a WWE Diva type (She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel). Or for that matter a wicked whore type.

Sure, she's not a supermodel. Apparently you guys still need all female characters to look that way. And she's written as a real person, not a superheroine, not a Mary Sue or whatever, not a idealized girlfriend type. And this generates all this bile among the comic fan community? This kind of thinking is still holding this medium back, and justifying the popular image of fanboys as socially maladjusted, masturbatory troglodytes.

Personally, I find Jessica Jones to be among the most appealing female characters in Marvel's history. Alias was an amazing, unprecedented book, and to me Bendis' finest work (although I understand why USM gets the accolades), and I was thrilled when they decided to bring that story fully into the 616 continuity.

People wonder why girls and women still don't read superhero comics. It's not because there is a lack of "strong" female characters, if anything Marvel tends to make its women more powerful than its men. It's because the female characters are still ciphers, simplistic types that aren't allowed to share the kinds of flaws as the men. Jessica Jones is an exception, and look at the reaction to her. Marvel needs many more Jessicas, and (to make that statement literal) I'm hoping that Bendis brings Spider-Woman, with all her baggage, into this level of character.

I think people really need to reevaluate why they have such a negative reaction to Jessica Jones, and what that says about themselves. It's very much analogous to the strong reaction Black Panther provokes.

The only people that hate the character are those that feel that Bendis push it down people's throats. But other than that, I bet that those that read Alias like her. It has nothing to do with looks or any other. And who has strong reactions toward Black Panther?

[daviddonne]

The only people that hate the character are those that feel that Bendis push it down people's throats. But other than that, I bet that those that read Alias like her. It has nothing to do with looks or any other. And who has strong reactions toward Black Panther?

If that were true, we wouldn't have this thread, would we? And honestly, how is Bendis pushing her down our throats anymore than any other writer does with characters they like? The man writes like a dozen titles and she appears in one book. If she wasn't a woman that's written in a different way that makes a certain contingent of fanboys uncomfortable, this issue would be discussed as much as Jarvis' attitude and baldness. God knows we've been exposed to that ugly man enough.

[Iron Maiden]

And you have an oedipal complex and you like your mom when she wears schlub casualwear.

That sums it up.

Why do you have make this a personal attack? Keep to the subject at hand. Discuss ideas and not each other. That's usually the mature way to make your point.

[Expletive Deleted]

Yeah, I think this has run its course.