should left wing people mock "Fundamentalists"

[Mutate]

"fundie" Christians I know are always complaining that Islam is let off from being critisised by left-wing people, they say they have a double standard and that the same bad points they mock in Christianity they ignore in Islam. In their opinion this is either because they are scared of the violence of Muslims or because Satan resides in the hearts of all non-christians making them attack Christianity while "promoting evil faiths". I think it is more about the fact that the left-wing people think right wing christians are more safe and comfortable in the world on the whole...of course Christians in eastern europe and asia are oppressed, but american/european ones are an easy target as opposed to the Islamic world which is being exploited more for its land and oil. But it does make me think there should not be a double standard of respect, we shouldn't spend lots of time mocking the creationism, bigotry and sexism of Christian fundies and then ignore the fact that lots of Muslims have similar beliefs. It makes me wonder that the act that so many Muslims share the same beliefs liberal people mock western christians for means we have made a mistake mocking them so much, there should be more respect on both sides, as a double standard does not help anyone. I felt it was a lot more simple in the 90s as me and my friends were just against fundamentalism and religion and associated it with authority. But this decade we feel solidarity for oppresed people who have many of those same beliefs we mocked.

[worstblogever]

If something makes a mockery of itself, what's the point of putting the effort forth to do what's already done?

[Omega Alpha]

Everybody should mock everybody.

[Arvandor]

As I say in my sig: All religions are equal - equally stupid.

Those who believe in Islam are as deluded, misguided, and just plain flat out wrong, as those who believe in Christ.

[Winslow]

Most of the conflicts with Islam are largely related to problems created by 19th and 20th century colonialism, and are international in scope.

Most of the conflicts with Christian Fundies are over the so-called culture wars and are about national scope and policy.

They are 2 completely different things.

[Asmith]

You may be missing the obvious... who are more dominate in your society - Christians or Muslims? Which faith do the citizens of your society have more exposure to - Christianity or Islam? Which faith holds more sway or political power in your society - Christianity or Islam? Which of those two faiths holds the greater relevance to your fellow citizens? Which faith was more strongly reflected in your fellow citizen's upbringing? ...I think you get my point...

[longdecember]

Christians are easy targets. Their rules say they are supposed to speak out, but at the same time turn the other cheek if people attack them.

Some of the other religions are like this too, Bhudism, taoism,etc.

But it is a brilliant observation that nobody really attacks Islam or atheism.

[rick]

Christians are easy targets. Their rules say they are supposed to speak out, but at the same time turn the other cheek if people attack them.

Some of the other religions are like this too, Bhudism, taoism,etc.

But it is a brilliant observation that nobody really attacks Islam or atheism.

You're kidding right?

[Michael P]

Plenty of people attack Islam. And I make it something of a hobby to call atheists out when they're being bigoted shits.

Ultimately, though, anyone who hides their bigotry behind a show of piety and/or self-righteousness deserves to be mocked at every opportunity.

[clayholio]

Everybody should mock everybody.

Exactly. If you're not confident enough in your faith to take your medicine when your behavior has earned some mockery, then I think you're on shaky ground. That goes for all religions, too. Live up to your standards first, and then you can get all offended. Until then, it's all comedy fodder.

Atheists get mocked plenty. I seem to recall a poll saying that they were the most hated group in America, so it's not as if there's an atheist love-fest going on.

[Mobey Wee]

Islam doesn't have such a direct influence over my life, as Christianity does. Obviously I can only speak for myself, and living in Louisiana, there generally aren't a lot of people in my area protesting something based on their Islamic faith. Not saying I don't take issue with other religions, just that's not an every day issue, christianity on the other hand...

[dupont2005]

i think right wing people should mock fundamentalists. pretty much everybody that doesn't think jesus rode a dinosaur to church should. as far as islam goes, i would spend more time complaining about muslims if they actually had a negative effect on the politics that effect me and those around me. people in the middle east can complain about that.

[mikekerr3]

But it is a brilliant observation that nobody really attacks Islam or atheism.

On what planet are those two thing never attacked?

[Charles RB]

"fundie" Christians I know are always complaining that Islam is let off from being critisised by left-wing people, they say they have a double standard and that the same bad points they mock in Christianity they ignore in Islam.

Then they haven't been paying much attention to the Western left-wing.

[Mobey Wee]

Christians are easy targets. Their rules say they are supposed to speak out, but at the same time turn the other cheek if people attack them.

Some of the other religions are like this too, Bhudism, taoism,etc.

But it is a brilliant observation that nobody really attacks Islam or atheism.

I feel attacked as an atheist on a fairly regular basis actually. And I'm not talking about times when I'm engaged in religious discussion. I can't tell you how often I've been told people of middle eastern descent is a person's only prejudice as if it's no big deal at all. I do live in the south, but still, people are a lot more open about it then you'd think.

[dupont2005]

But it is a brilliant observation that nobody really attacks Islam or atheism.

well, you kind of just did, because atheism wasn't even mentioned in the original post, or any other post before yours. on top of that, there really is nothing to "attack" about it. just ignorant fundies spewing more hate for anything that conflicts with the way they think everybody should be forced to live their lives. and the comment you made is a prime example of why it's open season on fundies.

[Spike-X]

But it is a brilliant observation that nobody really attacks Islam or atheism.

I totally agree.

If by "a brilliant observation," you actually mean, "complete and utter bullshit."

[Spike-X]

And, to address the OP, yes. I think Fundamentalists should be mocked.

People who believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, despite mountains of verifiable scientific evidence to the contrary, deserve to be mocked. People who believe that dinosaur fossils were put in the ground "to test our faith" deserve to be mocked. People who believe that allowing same-sex couples the right to marry and raise a family is somehow an "attack" on their own family and marriage deserve to be mocked.

Oh, and people who believe that "Satan resides in the hearts of all non-Christians" definitely deserve to be mocked.

[Serik]

Heh, atheism and Islam are American Christian fundamentalists' two greatest enemies, next to logic and reason, of course.

[vcassel]

Eh, internet mocking is masturbation which usually turns into a jerk-off contest. I'm sure it feels good in some deep, dark recess of the mind, but is ultimately pointless and a waste of time and emotion that commonly derails from the issue. I suppose it might serve the point of social conditioning dissenting opinion to conform to a community's standards as it has in the past, before the internet, but I'd hope that we're all more mature and much more aware of ourselves for that. :wink:

[Asmith]

Oh, and people who believe that "Satan resides in the hearts of all non-Christians" definitely deserve to be mocked.

Wait... that's not Satan clogging up my right ventricle?? Shit, maybe the docs are right and I should cut down on the cholesterol...

[Asmith]

Eh, internet mocking is masturbation which usually turns into a jerk-off contest. I'm sure it feels good in some deep, dark recess of the mind, but is ultimately pointless and a waste of time and emotion that commonly derails from the issue. I suppose it might serve the point of social conditioning dissenting opinion to conform to a community's standards as it has in the past, before the internet, but I'd hope that we're all more mature and much more aware of ourselves for that. :wink:

You must be great fun when drunk and at parties... you get a lot of girls with that line...?

[vcassel]

You must be great fun when drunk and at parties... you get a lot of girls with that line...?

Are you mocking me! :mad: :tongue:

But no, seriously, I've once picked up a girl at a bar by relating the difference in girth between a gorilla's penis and a human's.

[Chris N]

...cut down on the cholesterol...

This goes deeply against my religious views.

[Royal]

Christians are easy targets. Their rules say they are supposed to speak out, but at the same time turn the other cheek if people attack them.

Some of the other religions are like this too, Bhudism, taoism,etc.


You just fucked yourself there.

Go read some books, talk to some people and once you can prove that you can have actual reason you can come back and sit at the big kids table.

k? k.

[Mutate]

I guess thats what conflicts me. I disagree with Muslims beliefs and attitude to gays, but i feel real bad for how they treated in occupied palestine. so am i for their land freedom but against their religious freedom :confused: is being for their religious freedom meaning being against arab gays freedom:confused:

[Asmith]

Are you mocking me! :mad: :tongue:

But no, seriously, I've once picked up a girl at a bar by relating the difference in girth between a gorilla's penis and a human's.
Ha, that's pretty stylish! ...she never stopped to wonder how you knew so much about a gorillas penis girth...? (Because that question is currently freakin' the hell outta me!)



This goes deeply against my religious views.
I see what you're doing... you're stealth converting me to your religion, you insidious bastard. Stop trying to save my soul via cholesterol and coke! (Mostly because that has a good chance of working...)

[vcassel]

Ha, that's pretty stylish! ...she never stopped to wonder how you knew so much about a gorillas penis girth...? (Because that question is currently freakin' the hell outta me!)

She had this little fuzzy gorrila keychain attached to her purse. You know, the retro kind with the plastic face and hands whose thumbs inserts into its mouth? She was at the bar and I drunkenly started playing with it. Somehow I opened with a garbled telling of how human's have more girth than gorilla's because the sex act is much more about pleasure to us. I'm not actually sure how true that is. I was pretty wasted. Took the girl home though!

EDIT: To put it in perspective: she thought a gorilla was a member of the 'monkey family' and this all took place at a goth club. So I suppose it's not really that impressive.

[Matt Algren]

Christians are easy targets. Their rules say they are supposed to speak out, but at the same time turn the other cheek if people attack them.That phrase doesn't mean (http://www.csec.org/csec/sermon/Wink_3707.htm) what you think it means.




Jesus gives three examples of what He means by not returning evil for evil. The first of these is, "If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also." Imagine if I were your assailant and I were to strike a blow with my right fist at your face, which cheek would it land on? It would be the left. It is the wrong cheek in terms of the text we are looking at. Jesus says, "If anyone strikes you on the right cheek..." I could hit you on the right cheek if I used a left hook, but that would be impossible in Semitic society because the left hand was used only for unclean tasks. You couldn't even gesture with your left hand in public. The only way I could hit you on the right cheek would be with the back of the hand.

Now the back of the hand is not a blow intended to injure. It is a symbolic blow. It is intended to put you back where you belong. It is always from a position of power or superiority. The back of the hand was given by a master to a slave or by a husband to a wife or by a parent to a child or a Roman to a Jew in that period. What Jesus is saying is in effect, "When someone tries to humiliate you and put you down, back into your social location which is inferior to that person, and turn your other cheek."

Now in the process of turning in that direction, if you turned your head to the right, I could no longer backhand you. Your nose is now in the way. Furthermore, you can't backhand someone twice. It's like telling a joke a second time. If it doesn't work the first time, it has failed. By turning the other cheek, you are defiantly saying to the master, "I refuse to be humiliated by you any longer. I am a human being just like you. I am a child of God. You can't put me down even if you have me killed." This is clearly no way to avoid trouble. The master might have you flogged within an inch of your life, but he will never be able to assert that you have no dignity.


Some of the other religions are like this too, [Buddhism], taoism,etc.

But it is a brilliant observation that nobody really attacks Islam or atheism.http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m242/soapblox/oppressed1.gif


Plenty of people attack Islam.
Seriously. Do a google search for "creeping sharia". The amount of outright, unmitigated religious bigotry from extreme-right-wing christians is astounding.

[Adam C]

I guess thats what conflicts me. I disagree with Muslims beliefs and attitude to gays, but i feel real bad for how they treated in occupied palestine. so am i for their land freedom but against their religious freedom :confused: is being for their religious freedom meaning being against arab gays freedom:confused:

Not necessarily, but I wouldn't draw a strict dichotomy between the two. The concept of "freedom" as we understand it based on the idea that individuals have certain rights that should be upheld. And part of doing this properly is making individuals don't trample over other's rights in doing what they think is right. So while an Arab Muslim would be perfectly free to believe whatever hateful nonsense he likes about gays, he's not free to translate that into violence against them.

[Charles RB]

That phrase doesn't mean (http://www.csec.org/csec/sermon/Wink_3707.htm) what you think it means.

That's... not a way I've ever heard of looking at that, but it makes a lot more sense.

EDIT: Mind you, I'm not a believer and never went to church, so this is probably something everyone else has already heard.

[Asmith]

That's... not a way I've ever thought or heard of looking at that, but it makes a lot more sense.

...another way that makes sense is that Jesus was dyslexic...

[longdecember]

You're kidding right?

Okay, since sincerity is not working let me try sappiness.

There are a lot of bad Christians. (they don't follow the turn the other cheek rule)
There are a lot of bad Muslims. (violence is wrong when there is any other option available)
There are a few of bad atheists. (shut down the local privately funded homeless shelter because it has the participants say grace before a meal)

But Christianity, Islam, and Atheism are not evil philosophies.

People are pretty touchy. No?

[longdecember]

That phrase doesn't mean (http://www.csec.org/csec/sermon/Wink_3707.htm) what you think it means.




Jesus gives three examples of what He means by not returning evil for evil. The first of these is, "If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also." Imagine if I were your assailant and I were to strike a blow with my right fist at your face, which cheek would it land on? It would be the left. It is the wrong cheek in terms of the text we are looking at. Jesus says, "If anyone strikes you on the right cheek..." I could hit you on the right cheek if I used a left hook, but that would be impossible in Semitic society because the left hand was used only for unclean tasks. You couldn't even gesture with your left hand in public. The only way I could hit you on the right cheek would be with the back of the hand.

Now the back of the hand is not a blow intended to injure. It is a symbolic blow. It is intended to put you back where you belong. It is always from a position of power or superiority. The back of the hand was given by a master to a slave or by a husband to a wife or by a parent to a child or a Roman to a Jew in that period. What Jesus is saying is in effect, "When someone tries to humiliate you and put you down, back into your social location which is inferior to that person, and turn your other cheek."

Now in the process of turning in that direction, if you turned your head to the right, I could no longer backhand you. Your nose is now in the way. Furthermore, you can't backhand someone twice. It's like telling a joke a second time. If it doesn't work the first time, it has failed. By turning the other cheek, you are defiantly saying to the master, "I refuse to be humiliated by you any longer. I am a human being just like you. I am a child of God. You can't put me down even if you have me killed." This is clearly no way to avoid trouble. The master might have you flogged within an inch of your life, but he will never be able to assert that you have no dignity.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m242/soapblox/oppressed1.gif


Seriously. Do a google search for "creeping sharia". The amount of outright, unmitigated religious bigotry from extreme-right-wing christians is astounding.

Oh my goodness. That guy is like a prophet or something!

Turn the other cheek means, Stick to what you believe, but don't kill the dude you disagree with.

Can I be a prophet on the internet too?

[Charles RB]

Oh my goodness. That guy is like a prophet or something!

More like a former parish minister and current theologian & lecturer and religious issues.

Cos he is. It's mentioned at the time of the webpage Matt linked to.

[Darrell D.]

Okay, since sincerity is not working let me try sappiness.

There are a lot of bad Christians. (they don't follow the turn the other cheek rule)
There are a lot of bad Muslims. (violence is wrong when there is any other option available)
There are a few of bad atheists. (shut down the local privately funded homeless shelter because it has the participants say grace before a meal)

But Christianity, Islam, and Atheism are not evil philosophies.

People are pretty touchy. No?

What does that have to do with your bullshit statement:


But it is a brilliant observation that nobody really attacks Islam or atheism.

[dupont2005]

Okay, since sincerity is not working let me try sappiness.

There are a lot of bad Christians. (they don't follow the turn the other cheek rule)
There are a lot of bad Muslims. (violence is wrong when there is any other option available)
There are a few of bad atheists. (shut down the local privately funded homeless shelter because it has the participants say grace before a meal)

But Christianity, Islam, and Atheism are not evil philosophies.

People are pretty touchy. No?
the shelter would not have had to be shut down if they were not forcing people to pray in order to be fed. so who is the bad guy there?

[longdecember]

the shelter would not have had to be shut down if they were not forcing people to pray in order to be fed. so who is the bad guy there?


Sure. If we are talking truly destitute people. But where I live, at this point in time obesity is a bigger problem than hunger. I should travel more.

[longdecember]

More like a former parish minister and current theologian & lecturer and religious issues.

Cos he is. It's mentioned at the time of the webpage Matt linked to.

Cool. But I don't think he need to use so many words to come to the same conclusion I did.

[Matt Algren]

That's... not a way I've ever heard of looking at that, but it makes a lot more sense.

EDIT: Mind you, I'm not a believer and never went to church, so this is probably something everyone else has already heard.
Most people haven't. When the King is in charge of translating a religious document, it's no wonder that the parts telling common people how to stand up to authority get mangled beyond recognition.

[Matt Algren]

Turn the other cheek means, Stick to what you believe, but don't kill the dude you disagree with.
That's not what he said.

[dupont2005]

Sure. If we are talking truly destitute people. But where I live, at this point in time obesity is a bigger problem than hunger. I should travel more.

so it's okay to force fat homeless people to pray before they are fed, and only an evil atheist would see otherwise.

[Spike-X]

There are a few of bad atheists. (shut down the local privately funded homeless shelter because it has the participants say grace before a meal)

Link?




?

[longdecember]

Link?




?

It would give up the major metro I live in. Both in the drama about the organization and in the amount of pleasantly plump people who live here.

I'd defend both groups their privacy.

[longdecember]

That's not what he said.

What did he say. Something about mirror images and beating people down?

[Matt Algren]

Ah, so you're a garden variety troll.

Please, tell us your philosophies. We await enlightenment.

[spoon_jenkins]

You may be missing the obvious... who are more dominate in your society - Christians or Muslims? Which faith do the citizens of your society have more exposure to - Christianity or Islam? Which faith holds more sway or political power in your society - Christianity or Islam? Which of those two faiths holds the greater relevance to your fellow citizens? Which faith was more strongly reflected in your fellow citizen's upbringing? ...I think you get my point...
Yup. There's a certain urgency to reining in the majorities or powerful factions in one's own culture. Despite what Mitt Romney might say, I don't think there's a danger of the U.S. becoming an Islamic fundamentalist caliphate. I do think there's a danger of Christian Right idiots retarding education, science, and technology and causing the U.S. to lose ground to others.

I criticize Islamic cultures. I think a lot of people have done terrible stuff (discrimination/violence against women, restricting freedom of expression, etc.) in the name of Islam. But unfortunately, all too often, rational discussions about problems in minority cultures give way to irrational scapegoating. That leads to ridiculous stuff like banning minarets in the name of fighting militancy.

[spoon_jenkins]

Then they haven't been paying much attention to the Western left-wing.
Yeah, the human rights groups that lead the way in criticizing human rights abuses in Islamist regimes (as opposed to just Islamic nations) are the same groups that get bashed as lefty pinkos.

[Spike-X]

It would give up the major metro I live in. Both in the drama about the organization and in the amount of pleasantly plump people who live here.

I'd defend both groups their privacy.
Gimme a fuckin' break.

[longdecember]

Ah, so you're a garden variety troll.

Please, tell us your philosophies. We await enlightenment.

If you are sending this to me. I would say that we have pretty good lives here in the USA. Most of the stuff we complain about is make work. As far as my philosophies:

But I think abortion is creepy. Like Jigsaw killer or swamp thing creepy. I think we have way to much hero worship for pro-athletes who could not read two posts in this thread without their brains telling their bodies to reach for the andro or oxy. I think there are roughly the same amount of males and females on this planet at any one time, and that we have enough of them in total, so nobody needs to go to extroadinary measures, abruptly break up a marriage, crash a car, or some such, especially when it takes 20+ years to raise a child properly. (that is not busy work)

But if anybody on this thread is truly hungry, I say turn of the internet connection (my ramblings) and visit the day-old bread store. .Or a food pantry. Or the dumpster of a manhattan restraunt.

[Spike-X]

if anybody on this thread is truly hungry, I say turn of the internet connection (my ramblings) and visit the day-old bread store. .Or a food pantry. Or the dumpster of a manhattan restraunt.

I'm pretty sure we don't have any actual homeless people here at CBR. So...er...your point...?

[spoon_jenkins]

But it is a brilliant observation that nobody really attacks Islam or atheism.
Nobody attacks the most stigmatized demographic groups? Seriously, as recently as 1987 a future U.S. President (George Bush, Sr.) told a reporter that atheists shouldn't be considered citizens. AFAIK, there's only one openly atheist member of Congress (despite how many atheists there are). That's less then the number of openly gay members. That's because the stigma against atheist is so strong, politicians can't be openly atheist.

On the other hand, fundamentalist right-wing Christians regularly complain that they are being victimized because efforts are made to stop them from violating the Constitution by using the organs of government to impose their religion on others. It's like a bully who says "stop hurting me" while he's pounding a much smaller kid into the pavement.

[Ontir]

Try not to mock, instead use arguments based on reason. You can be witty, but there's a difference between that and mocking.

[Cyke]

Frankly, I've seen right-wingers mock fundamentalists. If they can do it, anyone can do it. As well, many many Muslims make an effort to distance themselves from fundamentalist Muslims, too. Let's all remember the hard work of moderation.

[longdecember]

I'm pretty sure we don't have any actual homeless people here at CBR. So...er...your point...?

Some of us can't afford comics.

EDIT: And Youtube is taking media off quicker than I can delete the book marks.

[Ontir]

I'm pretty sure we don't have any actual homeless people here at CBR. So...er...your point...?

I'd bet good money (had I any) that we do. Given the state of the economy, I bet there are people posting on laptops bought when jobs were had, who are sitting in a Starbucks or McDonald's w/WiFi as I type this!

[Iangould]

There are a few of bad atheists. (shut down the local privately funded homeless shelter because it has the participants say grace before a meal)


Is that an actual example?

Personally I'd nominate PZ Meyers' deliberate desecration of the Catholic Eucharist as a prime example of Atheist dickishness.

Interestingly, Meyers threw pages from a Koran and a Menorah into the rubbish along with the Eucharist.

He get death threats from Catholics, Muslims and Jews just seem to have shrugged.

[longdecember]

Is that an actual example?

Personally I'd nominate PZ Meyers' deliberate desecration of the Catholic Eucharist as a prime example of Atheist dickishness.

Interestingly, Meyers threw pages from a Koran and a Menorah into the rubbish along with the Eucharist.

He get death threats from Catholics, Muslims and Jews just seem to have shrugged.


I just don't see the point of what he did. I respect people who don't want the local village to put up a Christmas display with public funds. I also respect people who don't want public funds to pay for an overpaid american doctor to abort a baby from a truly intimate encounter.

Maybe I am just too fat and happy. And I do my griping on the internet. One of the religiously neutral wonders of the world.

[GozertheGozarian]

It would give up the major metro I live in. Both in the drama about the organization and in the amount of pleasantly plump people who live here.

I'd defend both groups their privacy.
If it was reported in the news, all rights to privacy are lost. I'm going to consider the claim bullshit without some evidence.

[Charles RB]

Please, tell us your philosophies.

Strangling animals, golf, and masturbation.

[Serik]

Strangling animals, golf, and masturbation.

I don't even want to know how you define a birdie in golf.

[Fenris]

Strangling animals, golf, and masturbation.

How do you strangle golf?


õ
I'm not even asking about the third!

[Iangould]

Strangling animals, golf, and masturbation.

What, all at the same time?

Gives new meaning to expressions like "hitting an eagle" "choking up" and "he's going for the wood".

[GozertheGozarian]

Strangling animals, golf, and masturbation.
Change masterbation to billiards and it's perfect.

[longdecember]

I really could use an endorsement deal.

[mikekerr3]

There are a few of bad atheists. (shut down the local privately funded homeless shelter because it has the participants say grace before a meal)


If it was privately funded How did Aithists force it to close? :confused:

They would have no standing in court to do so, unless public resources were being used somehow, if that's is the case it was not privately funded.

And was making people pray before they eat more important to someone than feeding them?:confused:

[mikekerr3]

I'm pretty sure we don't have any actual homeless people here at CBR. So...er...your point...?

He's simply trolling with a straw-man as bait.:wink:

[GozertheGozarian]

If it was privately funded How did Aithists force it to close? :confused:

They would have no standing in court to do so, unless public resources were being used somehow, if that's is the case it was not privately funded.

And was making people pray before they eat more important to someone than feeding them?:confused:
Google search says it never happened.

[mikekerr3]

Google search says it never happened.

Didn't think so, It was just a BS lie.

I wish people would at least try to tell plausible lies instead of idiotic ones, it not so insulting

[longdecember]

Didn't think so, It was just a BS lie.

I wish people would at least try to tell plausible lies instead of idiotic ones, it not so insulting

The business statement for Google is "don't be evil."

I forget that you all have covered these topics before. Off to the search archives for me. Peace.

[Paradox]

Omega Alpha has my back:

Everybody should mock everybody.

Exactly. It helps build thick skins. :wink:

[Paradox]

GozertheGozarian should know all phallic symbols are not the same:

Change masterbation to billiards and it's perfect.

Exchanging masturbation for billiards is about as far from perfect as I can imagine. :wink:

[Mobey Wee]

There are a few of bad atheists. (shut down the local privately funded homeless shelter because it has the participants say grace before a meal)


Anybody remember when that youth group for kids from lower income families got kicked out of the country club's swimming pools, and it was national news for like 3 weeks? I find it hard to believe we wouldn't have heard about this.

[Paradox]

I don't know if it's true or not, but it sure sounds like the BS propaganda the churches were spreading around here to combat a housing anti-discrimination law.

[M. Bushbug]

I find it difficult to "Mock" fundamentalists. Their self parody can not be topped.

[The Black Guardian]

Not only should everybody mock everybody, but everybody should mock themselves... often.

[GozertheGozarian]

Exchanging masturbation for billiards is about as far from perfect as I can imagine. :wink:
Think about it for a moment. Strangling animals, golf, and billiards. Choking the chicken, trouser golf, and pocket pool.

[Paradox]

**grooooooooan** :tongue:

That's a compliment. You're supposed to groan at puns/plays on words.

[Charles RB]

Phew! I was worried about the reception that post would get - golf didn't seem to be very popular around here.

[Ontir]

I find it difficult to "Mock" fundamentalists. Their self parody can not be topped.

True. Remember when Tammy Faye Bakker said, in an international broadcast, "Jesus needs a rollercoaster!"

[MacQuarrie]

I'm pretty sure we don't have any actual homeless people here at CBR. So...er...your point...?

I was a homeless person in the summer of 1978; does that count?