Are there ANY small (or rather) not humongous chested female superheros?!

[JumpingJupiter]

Gratuitous boobage! So yeah, aren't there any girls with believably sized breasts in the DCU or Marvel U?

Like who's a C cup or smaller?

I'd read about them.

[Alex Smith]

Madame Xanadu

It's a Vertigo title, but an excellent read. It's probably my favorite book out there right now.

[C-Cool]

Usually, Stargirl.
Misfit.
Madame Xanadu
Cyclone (most of the time).
Originally, Jubilee.
And, of course, the flag-bearer of this type of female (the believable female), Kitty Pryde.

[Karl O'Neill]

yeah Stargirl is still growing them!:biggrin:

[KYLeo71]

Raven used to be, but I think she's gained boobage since she got a teen-aged body.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

Usually, Stargirl.
Misfit.
Madame Xanadu
Cyclone (most of the time).
Originally, Jubilee.
And, of course, the flag-bearer of this type of female (the believable female), Kitty Pryde.

Surprisingly enough, 5 out of the 6 characters you named are underaged.

[gwydion]

Hawkgirl, I think.

[JumpingJupiter]

Surprisingly enough, 5 out of the 6 characters you named are underaged.

That's ver revealing. Pun unapologetically intended. So, are ginormous breasts comics shorthand for "ripe".

[Forth World]

One of the things I like the most about - the much reviled - Gotham City Sirens is that the women's boobs actually sag a little.

Say what you will about the rest of the it, but I think that specifically is a step forward.

Now: More Keira Knightley-ish characters, please. But that will be harder for lazy male artists. It means you have to draw women with women's skeletal structures, rather than 12 year old boys with basketballs affixed to the pectoral region.

[Free-Man]

A recurring theme around Cloud 9 in Avengers: Initiative is that she feels inadequate because she doesn't have abs and is flat chested.

None of the Terras ever seemed stacked (except when Mach drew the most recent Terra for a PG cover).

[Zembo]

Madame Fatal wasn't very stacked.

[True Herald]

Madame Fatal wasn't very stacked.

Also wasn't very female. :wink:

[Superbeast]

Surprisingly enough, 5 out of the 6 characters you named are underaged.

Cyclone is at university. What are we going on as being underage, 21?

[daveageallen]

depends on the artist i think. i saw previews for spider women and someone on here complained that she was flat chested. have you seen the covers which are noway the same art? its stupid and sexist.
the way women are portrayed is probally the number one issue wrong with comics these days. marvel is worse than anyone to be honest.
they have a 15 year old hero drawn like a stripper.


and another problem. womens costumes. some are really so tight they go inside their belly buttons? is that even possible

[Annie2007]

Misfit definitely, but she's kinda faded out now. Black Alice and Scandal Savage (but are they heroes?) would count too.

[Annie2007]

Stupid internet - inadvertently posted twice.

Does Stephanie Brown have big tatas? I didn't notice, so I'm assuming not.

[Freakzeek]

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/Freakzeek_2009/Powergirl.jpg

[brenticles]

Gratuitous boobage! So yeah, aren't there any girls with believably sized breasts in the DCU or Marvel U?

Like who's a C cup or smaller?

I'd read about them.

Good God man! Why would you want to look at a woman that's smaller than a D Cup let alone read about such an uninteresting person?!? I like my women with lots of..."personality".



But seriously it all depends on the artist. Several characters have been depicted more along the line you want and then they appear differently with another artist. I gues it could be frustrating but it has never really bothered me unless it's just outlandish. That one JSA (or was it JLA) cover comes to mind that featured Power Girl and Churchill (or perhaps Turner) had made her boobs so huge they still looked silly after DC edited it.

But basically art is subjective and no two artists will draw something the same. I expect variation with this and I apprecaite it.

[brenticles]

And this thread is completly usless without examples! Show us this terrible art with the huge boobies! And the art you like that you want more of.

[Free-Man]

And this thread is completly usless without examples! Show us this terrible art with the huge boobies! And the art you like that you want more of.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/25807/886625-pg3_gm_super.jpg

I actually don't mind Mach's art, but this is exactly what a teen heroine SHOULDN'T look like.

[brenticles]

I actually don't mind Mach's art, but this is exactly what a teen heroine SHOULDN'T look like.
I agree. I like March's art too, but I haven't really cared for any of his Power Girl covers. But to be fair, Amanda Conner doesn’t exactly make Terra look small chested either. I think the main issue above is the design and coloring of the face that makes Terra look like an adult pornstar rather than a teenager.

[DonC]

The Dawn Granger Dove has pretty much always been drawn like a normal woman. Even by Rob Liefeld.

http://www.flashbackuniverse.com/blogImages/PierreBlogImages/RobLiefeld/HawkAndDove4.jpg

[Free-Man]

Blitzen was flat-chested before Benes tarted drawing her.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/35652-5454-39809-1-shadow-cabinet_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9241/638637-action_comics_872__2009__large.jpg

[Forth World]

Blitzen was flat-chested before Benes tarted drawing her.

If that typo wasn't intentional, it should have been.

[ryerye17]

Zatanna :biggrin:

[K-DoG7p7]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/7p7/speedy7.jpg
(a few artists have given her DoubleDs, but generally shes a small C or a B)



http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/7p7/cas_bop63.jpg

[Free-Man]

There is an interview with Nicola Scott where she says she tries to avoid drawing large breasts on teen and child characters, and it shows:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e1/Misfit2.PNG/250px-Misfit2.PNG
http://blogs.lubbockonline.com/hero/files/2008/09/fnf-misfit-blackalice1.jpg

[superchick]

Remember though, some girls in their early teens do have bigger breasts and of course by 18 they aren't going to get any bigger

[Free-Man]

Remember though, some girls in their early teens do have bigger breasts and of course by 18 they aren't going to get any bigger

That is certaily true, but I believe she might be avoiding drawing stacked 16-year olds because it could get pretty creepy.

[The Lucky One]

Hawkgirl, I think.

I'll have to disagree on that one. When I read her first appearance in JSA Secret Files #1 as a teenager, my immediate thought was, "Whoa... side boob!" Followed by "Whoa... under-boob!" She was definitely drawn as stacked from the beginning.

I think some artists do make an effort to draw females with more believable chests, but I don't think there are any characters where it's such a hallmark that every artist will respect it. Kitty Pryde is pretty much Marvel's standard bearer of flat-chestedness, but even so, I've read plenty of stories where she's got massive sweater kittens. Same for Jubilee... the New Warriors artist took a ton of heat from fans for giving her double D's.

What's amusing is that most artists do draw teenage females with more realistic chests (Stargirl, Spoiler, Cyclone), but as soon as they start to be considered adult heroines they instantly sprout cannons. Perhaps someone should point out to the artists that most women don't wake up on their first day of college to find that their breasts have suddenly doubled in size. :wink: Courtney's consistently shown as pretty flat-chested, but the glimpse we got of her as Starwoman from Sins of Youth showed her just as buxom as any other comic female.

-D

[Shokoti]

http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/521/Picture_133.jpg

[The Lucky One]

Oh, I thought of another one! Wonder Girl was flat as a board in her early appearances and only slightly curvier in the later days of Young Justice, then apparently got breast implants right before Teen Titans started.

Although, again- another character who was shown in Sins of Youth to have ginormous bewbs in her fully grown form. (See also: Secret.)

-D

[Pól Rua]

In a lot of cases, it has more to do with artists than it does with characters.

[True Herald]

Dr. Light was originally.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p278/lammal412/DrLight-Crisis1.jpg

[NickFury90]

In a lot of cases, it has more to do with artists than it does with characters.

I came here to say this. Sometimes, Supergirl's breasts are normal proportions. Sometimes, they give Pamela Anderson a run for her surgeon.

[pad]

Oh, I thought of another one! Wonder Girl was flat as a board in her early appearances and only slightly curvier in the later days of Young Justice, then apparently got breast implants right before Teen Titans started.

Although, again- another character who was shown in Sins of Youth to have ginormous bewbs in her fully grown form. (See also: Secret.)

-D

I think that was just John's decision to make her a little older looking. Look at what happened to Superboy. He went from slim to bulky between Young Justice and Teen Titans.

[Electric i]

Gratuitous boobage! So yeah, aren't there any girls with believably sized breasts in the DCU or Marvel U?

Like who's a C cup or smaller?

I'd read about them.


Back in the day someone wrote a letter to the editor of "The New Mutants" complaining that Daniel Moonstar was flat-chested. Can't remember the issue, don't own it anymore, but I'll never forget that letter even if I can't remember what happened in the story.

[JumpingJupiter]

I don't know, some of the ones (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/12593/285323-142651-cyclone_super.jpg)you're saying have pretty giant boobs.

[arrowsonthemyscira]

Don't forget Manhunter. Part of her initial character design, according to her creator, was that she was small-chested.

http://friendsoflulu.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/225px-manhunter_katespencer.jpg

[AdamYJ]

I'll have to disagree on that one. When I read her first appearance in JSA Secret Files #1 as a teenager, my immediate thought was, "Whoa... side boob!" Followed by "Whoa... under-boob!" She was definitely drawn as stacked from the beginning.

I think some artists do make an effort to draw females with more believable chests, but I don't think there are any characters where it's such a hallmark that every artist will respect it. Kitty Pryde is pretty much Marvel's standard bearer of flat-chestedness, but even so, I've read plenty of stories where she's got massive sweater kittens. Same for Jubilee... the New Warriors artist took a ton of heat from fans for giving her double D's.

What's amusing is that most artists do draw teenage females with more realistic chests (Stargirl, Spoiler, Cyclone), but as soon as they start to be considered adult heroines they instantly sprout cannons. Perhaps someone should point out to the artists that most women don't wake up on their first day of college to find that their breasts have suddenly doubled in size. :wink: Courtney's consistently shown as pretty flat-chested, but the glimpse we got of her as Starwoman from Sins of Youth showed her just as buxom as any other comic female.

-D

Yeah, unfortunately it's turned into artistic shorthand for an adult heroine. Just like how it's artistic shorthand to draw teenage superheroes as shorter than all the adult ones, even though people come in all different heights and a 16-year-old boy can easily be the same height as a full-grown man.

[Den]

*smokes pipe* "Clearly, the Universe of superheroes has shown some evidenced oddities in regards to the of breast size of its humanoid female population. The superheroes and heroines both seem often clueless of these changes, as if it has always been that way. I propose that the mainstream appearances of each individual set of hooters as we know them is like a great milky river, but with several offshoots. Some actually larger than the original, occasionally smaller. Sometimes one portrayal rejoins the original portrayal, and either overwhelms it, or is overcome by the mainstream inertia or 'prior appearances'. Thus, is it not a question of which breast size is correct, but rather ALL breast sizes are or have been, or will be true, sometimes at the same time.
We call this the "Hyperbewbs" theory, and I hope it explains things to everyone's satisfaction." *Puts down pipe*

Or it could just be that artists vary like others have pointed out ;)

PS: Please don't hurt me

[JumpingJupiter]

Don't forget Manhunter. Part of her initial character design, according to her creator, was that she was small-chested.

http://friendsoflulu.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/225px-manhunter_katespencer.jpg

That's still a D cup for sure.

[The Lucky One]

Yeah, unfortunately it's turned into artistic shorthand for an adult heroine. Just like how it's artistic shorthand to draw teenage superheroes as shorter than all the adult ones, even though people come in all different heights and a 16-year-old boy can easily be the same height as a full-grown man.

Good point. Tim Drake was portrayed as a good foot and a half shorter than Bruce and a good foot less than Dick for about 95% of his existence, then shot up to suddenly be just about Dick's height and only a little less than Bruce.

pad brought up a great example, of how Superboy changed from a swimmer to a football player within a month when YJ ended and TT began.

-D

[Free-Man]

Good point. Tim Drake was portrayed as a good foot and a half shorter than Bruce and a good foot less than Dick for about 95% of his existence, then shot up to suddenly be just about Dick's height and only a little less than Bruce.

pad brought up a great example, of how Superboy changed from a swimmer to a football player within a month when YJ ended and TT began.

-D

For whatever reason, they drew Static as looking around the same age as the other teen heroes during Terror Titans. And then suddenly about two or three months later, he was about a foot shorter than everyone else on the team.

[The Lucky One]

*smokes pipe* "Clearly, the Universe of superheroes has shown some evidenced oddities in regards to the of breast size of its humanoid female population. The superheroes and heroines both seem often clueless of these changes, as if it has always been that way. I propose that the mainstream appearances of each individual set of hooters as we know them is like a great milky river, but with several offshoots. Some actually larger than the original, occasionally smaller. Sometimes one portrayal rejoins the original portrayal, and either overwhelms it, or is overcome by the mainstream inertia or 'prior appearances'. Thus, is it not a question of which breast size is correct, but rather ALL breast sizes are or have been, or will be true, sometimes at the same time.
We call this the "Hyperbewbs" theory, and I hope it explains things to everyone's satisfaction." *Puts down pipe*

I adore this theory and hereby adopt it as the official explanation for this situation. Problem solved, conversation over.

If I were a lesser man, I might speculate on the implications of this theory on the romantic lives of superheroines if the same phenomenon holds true for certain portions of the male anatomy; and if so, how much of a crap shoot every single roll in the hay would be for poor DCU females. Fortunately for all involved, I'm not that infantile.

-D

[Pixie_Solanas]

Dr. Light was originally.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p278/lammal412/DrLight-Crisis1.jpg

And accordingly, she was as interesting as the plank her chest emulates.

[Jarath]

*smokes pipe* "Clearly, the Universe of superheroes has shown some evidenced oddities in regards to the of breast size of its humanoid female population. The superheroes and heroines both seem often clueless of these changes, as if it has always been that way. I propose that the mainstream appearances of each individual set of hooters as we know them is like a great milky river, but with several offshoots. Some actually larger than the original, occasionally smaller. Sometimes one portrayal rejoins the original portrayal, and either overwhelms it, or is overcome by the mainstream inertia or 'prior appearances'. Thus, is it not a question of which breast size is correct, but rather ALL breast sizes are or have been, or will be true, sometimes at the same time.
We call this the "Hyperbewbs" theory, and I hope it explains things to everyone's satisfaction." *Puts down pipe*

Or it could just be that artists vary like others have pointed out ;)

PS: Please don't hurt me

I like the first theory better than the second. Sounds very Morrison-esque.

[gwangung]

And accordingly, she was as interesting as the plank her chest emulates.

Um, no.

If you go just by her initial appearance in COIE, there's enough material there for a sharp, interesting characterization. Not sure why writers can't see the potential in just those handful of issues.

[True Herald]

Um, no.

If you go just by her initial appearance in COIE, there's enough material there for a sharp, interesting characterization. Not sure why writers can't see the potential in just those handful of issues.

Lack of vision.
Same goes for Torpor here.
And "there are none so blind as those who will not see."

[Karl O'Neill]

Would love to see a dr light mini series.

[The Lucky One]

And "there are none so blind as those who will not see...

...boobs."?

-D

[brenticles]

...boobs."?

-D

In Sixth Sense whisper..."I see boobs..."

[Jack]

Back in the day someone wrote a letter to the editor of "The New Mutants" complaining that Daniel Moonstar was flat-chested. Can't remember the issue, don't own it anymore, but I'll never forget that letter even if I can't remember what happened in the story.There was once a letter printed in Spider-Girl that asked for her to be given bigger breasts, too.Remember though, some girls in their early teens do have bigger breasts and of course by 18 they aren't going to get any biggerYup. When I was 13 there was a girl the same age in my class who had fairly huge breasts by any standard.

[True Herald]

Would love to see a dr light mini series.

You mean you haven't already?? :wink:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2376409/1/
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2376409/2/
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2376409/3/
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2376409/4/

[True Herald]

...boobs."?

-D

I like the way you think. :biggrin:

[Zembo]

Um, no.

If you go just by her initial appearance in COIE, there's enough material there for a sharp, interesting characterization. Not sure why writers can't see the potential in just those handful of issues.

I agree...more than that would have been wasted.



:wink:

[WorstThingUS]

Ever feel like a thread is just baiting you?

[True Herald]

Ever feel like a thread is just baiting you?

Yup. And frankly, as far as their level of baiting goes:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p278/lammal412/NotImpressed.gif

(I didn't even make that pic; I just found it somewhere. :smile:)

[JumpingJupiter]

oops, double post.

[JumpingJupiter]

Ever get the feeling someone is implying that you're baiting them but you don't really know what's going on and why these implications are being made and that by implying things they are maybe trying ot bait you in the process?

Because I'm getting that feeling now...

[the4thpip]

I'll have to disagree on that one. When I read her first appearance in JSA Secret Files #1 as a teenager, my immediate thought was, "Whoa... side boob!" Followed by "Whoa... under-boob!" She was definitely drawn as stacked from the beginning.


-D

No, she wasn't. Original artist Steve Sadowski specifically said that he drew her as a small-chested woman. Not sure who drew her in the Secret Files story, but pretty much every other artist disregarded the original design. Or maybe Kendra just got implants.

Correction: Cover painter Andrew Robinson also got it right.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll102/the4thpip/6160_4_025.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll102/the4thpip/16529_4_056.jpg

[Freakzeek]

Skottie Young on his New X-men run had the right idea, DRAW THE CHARACTER BASED ON THEIR AGE! Jesus, such a simple concept but it goes over every artist head.


Skottie Young: http://blog.newsarama.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/blogNXM_design_X23.jpg



http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/X-Force7-Two.jpg


See the difference, one looks like a 16 year old girl, the other looks like a supermodel with torpedos

[Free-Man]

At least in Animal Man, Dolphin wasn't all that stacked:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/28464-3976-31597-1-animal-man_super.jpg

[marshal99]

Well , neil gaiman's death never has big boobs. :wink:

http://www.vamp.org/Gothic/Images/images/deathbleed.jpg

[The Lucky One]

No, she wasn't. Original artist Steve Sadowski specifically said that he drew her as a small-chested woman. Not sure who drew her in the Secret Files story, but pretty much every other artist disregarded the original design. Or maybe Kendra just got implants.

Heh. Well, I can't speak to Sadowski's intentions; certainly you might be right about that. All I'm saying is that in her very, very first appearance, JSA Secret Files #1? Well, I don't know who the artist was, but if that's flat chested, I'd hate to see what he or she considers buxom. Those things would put a Maxim cover model to shame.

-D

[Jarath]

With regards to the X-23 image above I don't think the art in the second image gives her particularly large boobs. Looks about right to me when considering the difference in art style.

There are a set of characters that I assume will have small/normal sized breasts, sometimes the art supports or contradicts this but it's how I think of the characters.

Supergirl, Wondergirl, Speedy, Batgirl (Cassie), Huntress (unreasonable? I don't know), Scandal Savage, Stargirl, Hawkgirl, The Question, Arisia (I know they are displayed alot but I see them as being smallish but pushed up to the max.) There are more I am sure but they come to mind.

Then are those who I consider to above average. Powergirl, Wonderwoman, Donna Troy, Black Canary, Sorinak Natu, Big Barda, Knockout, Liberty Bell.

Most people lie in the grey area in the middle, at least when I am think about a character. After all, a 5 year old would bit stacked under Choi or Dodson. And with Turner no one was particularly huge (if you made the waist the right size anyway.)

[DonC]

Well , neil gaiman's death never has big boobs. :wink:

http://www.vamp.org/Gothic/Images/images/deathbleed.jpg


She was supposed to look like a 14-year-old girl.

[4thHorseman]

Well, Marc Andreyko mentioned in the first trade that he wanted Manhunter to be like a "flawed, somewhat unlikable, fully-clothed, average-busted woman".

And I think depending on the artist, she still is normal in the breasticles.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1122/0025ssm.jpg

[babybro]

Skottie Young on his New X-men run had the right idea, DRAW THE CHARACTER BASED ON THEIR AGE! Jesus, such a simple concept but it goes over every artist head.


Skottie Young: http://blog.newsarama.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/blogNXM_design_X23.jpg



http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/X-Force7-Two.jpg


See the difference, one looks like a 16 year old girl, the other looks like a supermodel with torpedos


Whose the artist of the second image, I really like his art.

[Free-Man]

Whose the artist of the second image, I really like his art.

Mike Choi.

[WorstThingUS]

Ever get the feeling someone is implying that you're baiting them but you don't really know what's going on and why these implications are being made and that by implying things they are maybe trying ot bait you in the process?

Because I'm getting that feeling now...

It's. Called. A. Joke.

[Personamanx]

Gertrude Yorkes from Marvel's "Runaways" Comes to mind.

[JumpingJupiter]

It's. Called. A. Joke.

It's. Called. A. Rebuttle.

[WorstThingUS]

It's. Called. A. Rebuttle.

A humorless one.

[JumpingJupiter]

A humorless one.

I'm laughing so I win. :P

[JumpingJupiter]

Well, Marc Andreyko mentioned in the first trade that he wanted Manhunter to be like a "flawed, somewhat unlikable, fully-clothed, average-busted woman".

And I think depending on the artist, she still is normal in the breasticles.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1122/0025ssm.jpg

P.S: That is a freaking sexy image of Kate! *phew*

[howyadoin]

Now: More Keira Knightley-ish characters, please.I thought the question was about small-breasted women, not women with no breasts at all.

It's. Called. A. Rebuttle.Only when it's done by an Englishman in a tuxedo.

[JumpingJupiter]

Well, it's interesting that we came up with a lot of examples. So why is the big stereotype of the typical big-boobed superheroine so pervasive?

There obviously are a lot of examples of characters that dbreak that stereotype...

[brenticles]

Skottie Young on his New X-men run had the right idea, DRAW THE CHARACTER BASED ON THEIR AGE! Jesus, such a simple concept but it goes over every artist head.

See the difference, one looks like a 16 year old girl, the other looks like a supermodel with torpedos

That seems an over simplification to me. People develop at different rates; a girl at sixteen does not automatically equal a b-cup and no more. I knew a girl in high school that was massively developed as a freshman and getting breast reduction surgery before graduation. (And she was thin too, so you can imagine the inappropriate comments teenage boys made, but it must have been very uncomfortable for her at the least.) Women come in all shapes and sizes, so do teenagers.

[JumpingJupiter]

Women come in all shapes and sizes, so do teenagers.

But is that what we find in comics? Not saying it isn't, it would seem we do see many shapes.

[brenticles]

Well, it's interesting that we came up with a lot of examples. So why is the big stereotype of the typical big-boobed superheroine so pervasive?

There obviously are a lot of examples of characters that dbreak that stereotype...

My opinion is that 1) superhero comics are already an exaggeration of reality 2) the primary market is male 3) the majority of artists, writers, and editors are male and 4) people don’t really complain about it.

For me it’s not a problem. Superhero comics are a hyper-reality anyway combined with artist variation, so I don’t see it as a big deal. It’s not that different from movies or TV casting the most beautiful people they can find. Most people in Hollywood have had some work done or spend a lot of time in the gym avoiding looking average. The exception for comics is when it’s ridiculous, and pulls one out of the reading experience. What is ridiculous will obviously vary with each person.

[Dreadstar]

...So why is the big stereotype of the typical big-boobed superheroine so pervasive?

Oh, man, I wish I had a nickel for every time that question has come up at CBR. I could buy a Pepsi!

I think it comes down to the same reasons that the male superheroes are drawn with six-pack abs and perfectly defined musculature. It's an ideal. That and the fact that for most of the superhero artist set, the larger boob is probably easier to draw (or maybe just easier by habit, I don't know).

[mgs]

I think it comes down to the same reasons that the male superheroes are drawn with six-pack abs and perfectly defined musculature. It's an ideal. That and the fact that for most of the superhero artist set, the larger boob is probably easier to draw (or maybe just easier by habit, I don't know).I'd also venture it probably just shows who took anatomy art classes and prefers to draw bodies more realistically than just using either porn art and pics or drawing just round globes instead of what is real on people. :wink:

[HomerJay]

Remember though, some girls in their early teens do have bigger breasts and of course by 18 they aren't going to get any bigger
Not unless they have kids.
That's still a D cup for sure.
C cup tops.
Ever feel like a thread is just baiting you?
CBR is full of master baiters.

[Deadpooligan]

CBR is full of master baiters.

RITAs is home to the elite cunning linguists.

[Donald M.]

RITAs is home to the elite cunning linguists.

No, I think Homer Jay had it right the first time.

[Mac Danny]

No one mentions Rahne Sinclair?

[Mac Danny]

C cup tops.


I trust Homer's assessment on this. He is a walking Bra Sizer.

[Athena Bast]

Skottie Young on his New X-men run had the right idea, DRAW THE CHARACTER BASED ON THEIR AGE! Jesus, such a simple concept but it goes over every artist head.


Skottie Young: http://blog.newsarama.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/blogNXM_design_X23.jpg



http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/X-Force7-Two.jpg


See the difference, one looks like a 16 year old girl, the other looks like a supermodel with torpedos

I was wearing a 36C bra when I was 12 with a semi athletic body.

[Athena Bast]

That's still a D cup for sure.

You can't tell cup size from a profile. You have to look at the puppies head on.

[HomerJay]

I trust Homer's assessment on this. He is a walking Bra Sizer.

You can't tell cup size from a profile. You have to look at the puppies head on.
Actually, unless you have a measuring tape, there's probably no better way than profile. Since cup size is determined by the difference between the measurements of around the ribs vs. around the breasts, the best way of estimating probably is a profile (or even overhead) view.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/HomerJay64/The_More_You_Know-775718.jpg

[JumpingJupiter]

I love this thread. It's all about boobies!

[Athena Bast]

Actually, unless you have a measuring tape, there's probably no better way than profile. Since cup size is determined by the difference between the measurements of around the ribs vs. around the breasts, the best way of estimating probably is a profile (or even overhead) view.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/HomerJay64/The_More_You_Know-775718.jpg

Overhead is a different POV than profile. Overhead is more like head on.

I know from the side my boobs didn't look all that different from the side but from the front there you could see a jump from C to D.

I just know from the bras I have that I can fit into a 38D better than my 38C.

I'm not trying to fight with you but bewbs are three dimensional creatures and have to be considered from many directions.

It's like only considering penises by their length.

[Michael P]

Overhead is a different POV than profile. Overhead is more like head on.

"Apply directly to the forehead..."

[Mermaid]

Overhead is a different POV than profile. Overhead is more like head on.

I know from the side my boobs didn't look all that different from the side but from the front there you could see a jump from C to D.

I just know from the bras I have that I can fit into a 38D better than my 38C.

I'm not trying to fight with you but bewbs are three dimensional creatures and have to be considered from many directions.

It's like only considering penises by their length.

does this mean we can have a penis thread?

[brenticles]

Overhead is a different POV than profile. Overhead is more like head on.

I know from the side my boobs didn't look all that different from the side but from the front there you could see a jump from C to D.

I just know from the bras I have that I can fit into a 38D better than my 38C.

I'm not trying to fight with you but bewbs are three dimensional creatures and have to be considered from many directions.

It's like only considering penises by their length.

This is why I spend so many hours in contemplative study of boobies. :wink: :smile:

[MacQuarrie]

Hawkgirl, I think.

Not since Chaykin got to her.

[Mermaid]

I just checked out The Wasp as I seemed to remember she wasn't massively endowed. She's not what you'd call flat chested though.

[Donald M.]

It's like only considering penises by their length.

Luckily us men don't have to wear bras on our penises, though I'm sure some do.

[Mermaid]

there was a segment on my favorite radio show about "Is it ok for men to wear their undies at the beach?"

This has been brought up because of the unusually very hot weather for Melbourne this time of year. (Hottest November since 1902 apparently)
And because it's been so cold in October for Spring, a lot of people have been caught out and been wearing far too many clothes for the now hot weather.

Most of the callers said no. Mainly because of the elasticity of undies compared to bathers. One woman said her and her husband had gone on holiday to Hawaii with another couple and the guy from the other couple had forgotten his bathers.
She said that he decided to wear his undies.....and no only for the once! No, he wore them all week and she said they got baggier and dirtier as the week went on.
Yuk!!

I was at the beach last Easter and some guys there had stripped down to their undies to swim. Let me tell you guys - Undies are not a good look when they're wet and baggy and look like you've done number two's in them!!

[DonC]

Overhead is a different POV than profile. Overhead is more like head on.

I know from the side my boobs didn't look all that different from the side but from the front there you could see a jump from C to D.

I just know from the bras I have that I can fit into a 38D better than my 38C.

I'm not trying to fight with you but bewbs are three dimensional creatures and have to be considered from many directions.

It's like only considering penises by their length.


You're arguing boobs with Homer Jay. That's like arguing the physics with Stephen Hawking.

[Michael P]

Not since Chaykin got to her.

Even before then, the JSA artists tended to draw her pretty well-endowed.

[Ronald Bryan]

Not unless they have kids.

Well, when my sister was in 7th or 8th grade, one of her friends and classmates ended up getting a breast reduction surgery because they were an E cup. Of course, her mother was larger than that and her sister was fairly large chested as well, so it was just a freak family thing.

I always thought it was kind of crazy, since she was so young, but her doctor told her to due to her small frame and the strain on her back.

[Pól Rua]

I'm not trying to fight with you but bewbs are three dimensional creatures and have to be considered from many directions.

I approve of this statement.

[Michael P]

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2332/boobsw.jpg

[HomerJay]

I'm not trying to fight with you but bewbs are three dimensional creatures and have to be considered from many directions.
True enough. I was only saying that because of the way cup size is measured, a profile shot is probably the best way to estimate with the naked eye, but not the only way. The profile wont give you an idea about roundness or fullness.
You're arguing boobs with Homer Jay. That's like arguing the physics with Stephen Hawking.
Yeah but she owns, I can only rent.

[howyadoin]

True enough. I was only saying that because of the way cup size is measured, a profile shot is probably the best way to estimate with the naked eye, but not the only way. The profile wont give you an idea about roundness or fullness.
Not to mention direction.

[Athena Bast]

You're arguing boobs with Homer Jay. That's like arguing the physics with Stephen Hawking.

I forgot that having my own means I don't know shit about boobs.

I keep forgetting how stupid I am.

[Ronald Bryan]

I forgot that having my own means I don't know shit about boobs.

I keep forgetting how stupid I am.
To be fair, you do have a bad angle on them.

[Pól Rua]

Also, they're probably not as exciting when they're yours and you have to carry them around all day.
You know, as opposed to spending every waking minute trying desperately for a fleeting glimpse at them...

or... um... so I've heard...

[StoneGold]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/620167-big_bertha_nelson01_large.jpg

[Ilash]

Man, this thread just keeps getting better and better. Keep it up!

OK... that was probably a bad choice of words.

[JumpingJupiter]

This IS a thread about penises.

[Ilash]

Haha.

Ok. Point.

[JumpingJupiter]

Well, why not? What about the size of the typical superheros' man junk?

[StoneGold]

Well, why not? What about the size of the typical superheros' man junk?

Generally it's non-existent. Because as men, we feel threatened by other men's junk. On a purely physical level, even. So much so that if you're watching straight porn, your body produces more sperm because it senses the competition from other males. Although damned if I can find the news story that had that info - there are no set of key words in this thing that don't create a NSFW hellhole.

[Pól Rua]

According to Steranko's History of Comics, the artists in the Fawcett Comics Offices took note of that and had a little ditty about it.
"No balls at all, no balls at all! Cap-i-tain Marvel has No Balls at All!"

[Deadpooligan]

Well, why not? What about the size of the typical superheros' man junk?

http://www.fortheloveofcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/lovesausage.jpg

His weakness, coincidentally, is large breasts.

It prevents him from being able to run.

[howyadoin]

According to Steranko's History of Comics, the artists in the Fawcett Comics Offices took note of that and had a little ditty about it.
"No balls at all, no balls at all! Cap-i-tain Marvel has No Balls at All!"I thought that was Goebbels.

[K'Nort]

and another problem. womens costumes. some are really so tight they go inside their belly buttons? is that even possible

That navel thing bothers me much more than the breasts.

[mgs]

I know from the side my boobs didn't look all that different from the side but from the front there you could see a jump from C to D.

I just know from the bras I have that I can fit into a 38D better than my 38C.
O.o

interesting....

Also, they're probably not as exciting when they're yours and you have to carry them around all day.
You know, as opposed to spending every waking minute trying desperately for a fleeting glimpse at them...

or... um... so I've heard...
lol! :biggrin:

That navel thing bothers me much more than the breasts.
well, yeah, all drawn 'spandex' is unrealistic. You can start with the fact that it's a given that all superheroes have masks with such tightness, that they can make their eyes open and close from a squint to a large eyed manga-esque likeness! Everything else, from that point on, is simply ridiculous. :wink: