Input/Discussion for the 2009 Corries

[Brandon Hanvey]

With the year coming to a close, I'd thought I'd get a general idea of what they thought about the Corries.


Here are a few to get things started


Hold the Comic Corries on the Comics Should be Good blog
(This has been talked about a little bit to help get a bigger response and input from a wider range of fans).


During the Nomination phase let people nominate up to 3 choices, but during the Finals only allow them to vote for one.
(This might give a wider range of finalist)


End the Corries
(This has been brought up in the past. Some see the Awards as something that most don't really care about anymore.)


Bring back the "Negative" categories.
(It's a dead horse.)

[o1pickleboy]

I have two thoughts on the matter.


1.) I think the most missed poster award should be given honory to any member that has passed on. I don't like having posters to vote inbetween which dead friend they miss more.

2.) I wonder if there is a way to do the corrie more of a secret ballot kind of way. I think we would get better results, instead of a group jumping on this bandwagon or that bandwagon.(especially with all the factions around here)

[GozertheGozarian]

I think the negative Corries can be brought back, if changes are made to voting. Secret balloting is a good idea, and notify nominees and allow them to decline.

[Brandon Hanvey]

I have two thoughts on the matter.


1.) I think the most missed poster award should be given honory to any member that has passed on. I don't like having posters to vote inbetween which dead friend they miss more.

It's a valid point. The award is meant to honor people who are no longer around. Having to choose who you miss more can be hard for some. Maybe it could just be a nominating category with no finals?


2.) I wonder if there is a way to do the corrie more of a secret ballot kind of way. I think we would get better results, instead of a group jumping on this bandwagon or that bandwagon.(especially with all the factions around here)

Part of the reason for open ballots is to share your views with others. Plus it is easier to check ballots for fraud. A secret ballot would most likely have to be done via Private Message and that would fill up whoever's inbox real quick.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

With the year coming to a close, I'd thought I'd get a general idea of what they thought about the Corries.


Here are a few to get things started


Hold the Comic Corries on the Comics Should be Good blog
(This has been talked about a little bit to help get a bigger response and input from a wider range of fans).

This is a good idea and it brings attention to the CSBG forum which for awhile needs the attention. I agree with that move. If it works there , I'd recommend keeping it there .

During the Nomination phase let people nominate up to 3 choices, but during the Finals only allow them to vote for one.
(This might give a wider range of finalist)

Hmmm its a good idea on Comics , writers and artists on that part of the Corries Brandon. I think its a perfect move there for it. 2-3 nominations. Then ya let in the finals , someone pick as the finalist. I wouldn't do this for the Poster Corries....just the comics ones.


End the Corries
(This has been brought up in the past. Some see the Awards as something that most don't really care about anymore.)

I think you can make the Corries special by stream lining them to be honest. The Corries should last a month. Like the month of December. Its the end of the year and 1 week ...hold the comics Corries Nominations. The Next hold the Poster ones (I'd fold a few of the board Corries into them that ya wanna keep) . Next week ....Comics finals. Then the final week of December...post finals. In Jan. You can annouce the winners .

Thats my 2 cents on it.

Bring back the "Negative" categories.
(It's a dead horse.)


I think you can bring back them in a way thats not Negative. You can call them the Junior Corries and that unlike the Negative ones , the Junior Corries are for sillyness. Like "Silliest Handle" on CBR. "Funniest Signature" etc etc.

You can fold 5 of the Junior Corries into the poster ones and let people vote.

[mattbib]

It's a valid point. The award is meant to honor people who are no longer around. Having to choose who you miss more can be hard for some. Maybe it could just be a nominating category with no finals?

Part of the reason for open ballots is to share your views with others. Plus it is easier to check ballots for fraud. A secret ballot would most likely have to be done via Private Message and that would fill up whoever's inbox real quick.

I agree that it should be by secret ballot; at least the finals. We've seen these get railroaded by bandwagon-voting more often than not. There are plenty of free web-based programs we could use for voting; it wouldn't have to be done via PM. In fact, last I checked the main CBR site utilzes a poll. Maybe there's a way to suppress the results until a voting period has passed.

Additionally, it would also be cool to announce the Comic Corries on the main CBR site, to drive visitors to CSBG and increase forum registrations.

Many of the "negative" Corries weren't negative at all. For the sake of keeping the Corries fun I'm for bringing some of them back.

I think Most Artistic should be re-named "most talented" so that it encompasses our posters who share their written material on the Showcase.

[Brandon Hanvey]

A thought on the "secret" ballot.

Maybe the finals could be done via the Forum Polling system. It would take a little more time to set up each category since each one would be a separate thread. But it could let people vote secretly and the results be somewhat live.

We could have open nominations with up to 3 selections which you have to post in a response.

The top 3-5 nominations go to the finals and are voted via a poll.

[Brandon Hanvey]

Here are the categories from the 2008 Comic Corries.

1. Favorite Company/Publisher

2. Favorite Single Issue

3. Favorite Story
(I think this may need a name change since it can be a little vague to some)

4. Favorite Continuing Series

5. Favorite Limited/Mini Series

6. Favorite New Series

7. Comic Most Deserving of More Attention

8. Favorite Original Graphic Novel

9. Favorite Reprinted Collection/Trade Album

10. Favorite U.S. Edition of Foreign Material
(A low turn out category.)

11. Favorite Comics Cover/Book Design

12. Favorite Online Comic
(A low turn out category)

13. Favorite Newspaper Comic Strip
(A low turn out category)

14. Comic Blogs Should be Good (Favorite Blog about comics)
(A low turn out category)

15. Favorite Writer

16. Favorite Artist

17. Favorite Writer/Artist
(I have noticed some confusion as people do not read the description text saying it is one person who does both and they vote for Writer/Artist teams.)

18. Favorite Inker
(A low turn out category)

19. Favorite Colorist
(A low turn out category)

20. Favorite Letterer
(A low turn out category)

21. Favorite Cover Artist

22. Favorite Breakout New Talent

[mattbib]

3. Favorite Story
(I think this may need a name change since it can be a little vague to some)
Maybe favorite arc or event?

10. Favorite U.S. Edition of Foreign Material
(A low turn out category.)
If no one cares then lose it.

12. Favorite Online Comic
(A low turn out category)
Keep, as these are growing I think.

13. Favorite Newspaper Comic Strip
(A low turn out category)
I'd vote to lose it. This is Comic Book Resources after all. Permanently give this to Peanut Classics.

17. Favorite Writer/Artist
(I have noticed some confusion as people do not read the description text saying it is one person who does both and they vote for Writer/Artist teams.)
If they're someone's favorite, then wouldn't this person just be voted for in both the Favorite Writer and Favorite Artist categories? I'd side with losing this category altogether.

[Brandon Hanvey]

Say we could only have a dozen categories. Which would you keep and lose?

Here's what I would do.

1. Favorite Company/Publisher

2. Favorite Single Issue

3. Favorite Continuing Series

4. Favorite Limited/Mini Series

5. Favorite New Series

6. Favorite Graphic Novel/Collection/Trade Album (combined two categories)

7. Favorite Comics Cover/Book Design

8. Favorite Online/Digital Comic

9. Favorite Writer

10. Favorite Artist

11. Favorite Comic Creative talent (May need a better name)
(This is a combination of the "secondary" comic talents such as letter, colorist, inker, or even editor)

12. Favorite Cover Artist

[Brandon Hanvey]

The 2008 categories

The Posters

1. Favorite Poster
)

2. The "Fresh Meat" Award (Favorite New Poster)


3. Most Gregarious/Friendliest Poster

4. The "Speak, Damn You!" Award (Most Potential)


5. Most Helpful Poster


6. The "Weilander" (The Above And Beyond Award)


7. Funniest Poster

8. The "Abbott & Costello" Award (Funniest Couple)


9. The "Comic Guru" Award (Most Knowledgeable About Comics)


10. The Scarlet Rob Award (Wittiest Poster)


11. The Know-it-all award (Intelligent Poster)


12. The "Master deBater" Award (Excellence in Debating)


13. Most Improved Poster


14. CBR Staple


15. Artsy Fartsy Award (Most Creative Poster)


16. The Life of the Party Award

17. The Goblin Queen Award (Most Missed Poster)



The Forums

The Winners

1. Favorite CBR Forum :


2. Forum With The Most Potential :


3. Favorite Moderator:


4. Favorite CBR Column/Feature :

[Brandon Hanvey]

If I had to par them down to a dozen.


1. Favorite Poster


2. The "Fresh Meat" Award (Favorite New Poster)


3. Most Gregarious/Friendliest Poster


4. The "Speak, Damn You!" Award (Most Potential)


5. The "Weilander" (The Above And Beyond Award)


6. Funniest Poster


7. The "Comic Guru" Award (Most Knowledgeable About Comics)


8. The Scarlet Rob Award (Wittiest Poster)


9. The Know-it-all award (Intelligent Poster)


10. The "Master deBater" Award (Excellence in Debating)
(Maybe new title)

11. Most Improved Poster


12. Artsy Fartsy Award (Most Creative Poster)
(Maybe new title)


The Goblin Queen Award (Most Missed Poster)
(Maybe just have a nomination phase to recognize those who are not here at CBR)

[Brandon Hanvey]

I'm not saying we are going to par the categories down to a dozen. It's just a way of looking at which categories people want to recognize.

Please feel free to add your comments about which categories you would like to see stay, go, changed or added.

[howyadoin]

Okay, serious question: are the Corries deliberately being phased out?

[Brandon Hanvey]

Okay, serious question: are the Corries deliberately being phased out?

Not by me. I've tried to keep the awards going for as long as I can.

Posters just doesn't respond to them as they once did. Partly because the size of the Community of the Forums has grown over the years. Plus there is the fracturing into smaller Communities.

[Cei-U!]

I say drop them completely. They've long since outlived whatever value they initially had.

Cei-U!
I reiterate my old position!

[Novaya Havoc]

Here are the categories from the 2008 Comic Corries.

1. Favorite Company/Publisher

2. Favorite Single Issue

3. Favorite Story
(I think this may need a name change since it can be a little vague to some)

4. Favorite Continuing Series

5. Favorite Limited/Mini Series

6. Favorite New Series

7. Comic Most Deserving of More Attention

8. Favorite Original Graphic Novel

9. Favorite Reprinted Collection/Trade Album

10. Favorite U.S. Edition of Foreign Material
(A low turn out category.)

11. Favorite Comics Cover/Book Design

12. Favorite Online Comic
(A low turn out category)

13. Favorite Newspaper Comic Strip
(A low turn out category)

14. Comic Blogs Should be Good (Favorite Blog about comics)
(A low turn out category)

15. Favorite Writer

16. Favorite Artist

17. Favorite Writer/Artist
(I have noticed some confusion as people do not read the description text saying it is one person who does both and they vote for Writer/Artist teams.)

18. Favorite Inker
(A low turn out category)

19. Favorite Colorist
(A low turn out category)

20. Favorite Letterer
(A low turn out category)

21. Favorite Cover Artist

22. Favorite Breakout New Talent



The Corries need some ~!*SPICE*!~ and ~!*PIZZAZZ*!~ and ~*!!!SPARKLE!!!*~.

CBR by and large doesn't care about boring categories like:

10. Favorite U.S. Edition of Foreign Material
(A low turn out category.)

12. Favorite Online Comic
(A low turn out category)

13. Favorite Newspaper Comic Strip
(A low turn out category)

14. Comic Blogs Should be Good (Favorite Blog about comics)
(A low turn out category)

18. Favorite Inker
(A low turn out category)

19. Favorite Colorist
(A low turn out category)

20. Favorite Letterer
(A low turn out category)

21. Favorite Cover Artist


HOWEVER, I am glad you ~*acknowledge*~ these as "low turnout" cuz they are.

The Corries need to embrace that we are WONKS and want some moar HISTORY. I say we include categories like best ~*cancelled title*~ or BEST DECADE TITLE (by decade, say 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s), Best Solo Female Title EVER (Dazzler FTW!), or something with a little more pizazz and investment.

It may just be a one year, one-shot thing, but I think it might inject some life into the Corries. Nostalgia = WIN, so let's exploit the WIN eh? I mean, we should give tribute to the artists of the NAO, but why not pizzazz it up and have a fun yearly vote on the titles of the PAST?!

This may be more fitting for a 2010 edition, but that's my thought.

[Ronald Bryan]

Keep them around, but I think maybe using CSBG to promote them, but still have the voting in thread would be a good idea. Cutting them down would be a good idea, maybe combining if someone wants to nominate an online comic or foreign material for best comic, they can. And, it adds some specialness to the Corries.

Yeah, the poster and forum Corries really wouldn't work with that, but they can be fun, if they are limited. The forum Corries are perfect at 4.

The poster Corries had gotten bad where the number of Corries kept growing, making them seem less special. Having fewer would bring the specialness back to them and I think spur the voting on, since there wouldn't be such a long list of categories to vote in. A dozen might be the best. Let's just not go back to when the poster Corries were in the multiple dozens. I think, more than anything, that's what led to less people voting and more people being apathetic towards them. We just have to rebuild the Corries. Because they can be fun.

[Tami]

There is a bias against Manga and other Non-DC or Marvel titles.

There is a bias, or at least a perceived bias, against some forums like Comic Book Rumbles.

Do the same people keep winning year after year? Or is that an illusion?

[wolvie616]

Perhaps we should have a seperate manga award?

[Brandon Hanvey]

There is a bias against Manga and other Non-DC or Marvel titles.

How so? There are only format and creator categories. We used to have more specific genre categories but we got rid of them since they favored superhero comics.



There is a bias, or at least a perceived bias, against some forums like Comic Book Rumbles.

The categories are not written to favor any board.


Do the same people keep winning year after year? Or is that an illusion?

Certain posters are popular on certain boards and they happen to vote on a regular basis over the year.

[Brandon Hanvey]

Perhaps we should have a seperate manga award?

We currently have 10. Favorite U.S. Edition of Foreign Material which a manga title usually wins.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Here are the categories from the 2008 Comic Corries.

1. Favorite Company/Publisher

2. Favorite Single Issue

3. Favorite Story
(I think this may need a name change since it can be a little vague to some)

4. Favorite Continuing Series

5. Favorite Limited/Mini Series

6. Favorite New Series

7. Comic Most Deserving of More Attention

8. Favorite Original Graphic Novel

9. Favorite Reprinted Collection/Trade Album

10. Favorite U.S. Edition of Foreign Material
(A low turn out category.)

11. Favorite Comics Cover/Book Design

12. Favorite Online Comic
(A low turn out category)

13. Favorite Newspaper Comic Strip
(A low turn out category)

14. Comic Blogs Should be Good (Favorite Blog about comics)
(A low turn out category)

15. Favorite Writer

16. Favorite Artist

17. Favorite Writer/Artist
(I have noticed some confusion as people do not read the description text saying it is one person who does both and they vote for Writer/Artist teams.)

18. Favorite Inker
(A low turn out category)

19. Favorite Colorist
(A low turn out category)

20. Favorite Letterer
(A low turn out category)

21. Favorite Cover Artist

22. Favorite Breakout New Talent


These are the ones I'd drop from here Brandon in bold. To be honest "Favorite Story" and favorite Single issue is too close really. Keep single issue. The low turn out ones...drop. Favorite New series is fine...we don't need one saying it needs more attention. I never really care for a colorist , inker or letter so drop them ....in total...keep ..12 of them. Its a fine number....easy for people to come in and vote for.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The 2008 categories

The Posters

1. Favorite Poster
)

2. The "Fresh Meat" Award (Favorite New Poster)


3. Most Gregarious/Friendliest Poster

4. The "Speak, Damn You!" Award (Most Potential)

5. Most Helpful Poster


6. The "Weilander" (The Above And Beyond Award)


7. Funniest Poster

8. The "Abbott & Costello" Award (Funniest Couple)


9. The "Comic Guru" Award (Most Knowledgeable About Comics)


10. The Scarlet Rob Award (Wittiest Poster)


11. The Know-it-all award (Intelligent Poster)


12. The "Master deBater" Award (Excellence in Debating)

13. Most Improved Poster


14. CBR Staple


15. Artsy Fartsy Award (Most Creative Poster)


16. The Life of the Party Award

17. The Goblin Queen Award (Most Missed Poster)



The Forums

The Winners

1. Favorite CBR Forum :


2. Forum With The Most Potential :

3. Favorite Moderator:


4. Favorite CBR Column/Feature :

The ones here I'd remove....you have a Knowlodge corrie , wittiest corrie , and all....so pair it down . The rest to me should be paired down. But Jonah Weiland's award should be the center piece Corrie. and one given to that special CBR guy or gal who does good. Thats my take...in total...keep : 11 here...or 12 if ya wanna keep the "Master Debater" corrie.

[StarsAndGarters]

I am in favor of as much voting as possible.

[sHayden]

As far as comics go, I would try and find space for a "favorite indie" slot.

[Brandon Hanvey]

As far as comics go, I would try and find space for a "favorite indie" slot.

We used to have one when the awards had more genre specific categories.

But it was a low turn out category, and we decided to focus on format and creators rather than genre specific awards.

I also used to "host" an indie awards on the Indie Forums called the ISPies but I dropped it a few years back due to low response.

[howyadoin]

Not by me. I've tried to keep the awards going for as long as I can.

Posters just doesn't respond to them as they once did. Partly because the size of the Community of the Forums has grown over the years. Plus there is the fracturing into smaller Communities.I'd say it's largely because you guys have been scaling them down more every year, to the point where it's just not that interesting anymore, to be honest.

There is a bias against Manga and other Non-DC or Marvel titles.

There is a bias, or at least a perceived bias, against some forums like Comic Book Rumbles.

Do the same people keep winning year after year? Or is that an illusion?I think the word you're looking for is "paranoia".

[Brandon Hanvey]

I'd say it's largely because you guys have been scaling them down more every year, to the point where it's just not that interesting anymore, to be honest.


Fair enough.

But if you had your say, which categories would you add,keep,delete or change to make them more interesting?

[Chris N]

I miss the "poster you'd like to drink with" category. And all of those. I echo those who suspect the Corries should be fun and have fun choices.

In general, when voting for things like favorite poster, it does just show how divided into subcommunities CBR is. The CotM elections often do the same. That's not necessarily a bad thing as there are a lot of posters here, so it's natural there would be some subdividing of a community with thousands of active posters.

Also, there should be a category I'm likely to win. Like "drinks the most Coke" or "does the least work".

[wolvie616]

I miss the "poster you'd like to drink with" category. And all of those. I echo those who suspect the Corries should be fun and have fun choices.

In general, when voting for things like favorite poster, it does just show how divided into subcommunities CBR is. The CotM elections often do the same. That's not necessarily a bad thing as there are a lot of posters here, so it's natural there would be some subdividing of a community with thousands of active posters.

Also, there should be a category I'm likely to win. Like "drinks the most Coke" or "does the least work".

I challenge you for those titles!:evilsmile:

[howyadoin]

Fair enough.

But if you had your say, which categories would you add,keep,delete or change to make them more interesting?More stuff that has to do with fun and social interaction would be good.

And why not bring back "best signature", or "best avatar"? Were those really so bad?

[Justin D.]

I thought the Corrie participation went down because it meant less to people. And I don't mean in a "I can't vote in the fun poster/forums categories anymore" way. I mean people wondered why they were spending time voting in something that was only going to get seen on the boards of a message board. Oddly enough, the larger the site became, the less important the Corries became. The Corries used to be advertised on the front page of the site for the duration of the voting, which made it feel important to many of the people voting. That hasn't happened in quite a while. It could've easily have gone the other way around. I can easily imagine a book winning an award based on a few hundred (thousand?) votes and then stamping that on the trade dress of a book as a point of bragging/advertising.

Hell, maybe the name doesn't even fit anymore. Then again, the name Oscar for the Academy Awards means nothing and the origin is up for debate.

Also, I know the act of voting itself is a bit of hassle with all the copy and pasting or scrolling back and forth, but we're working on a way to make the whole process much faster and smoother.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I miss the "poster you'd like to drink with" category. And all of those. I echo those who suspect the Corries should be fun and have fun choices.

In general, when voting for things like favorite poster, it does just show how divided into subcommunities CBR is. The CotM elections often do the same. That's not necessarily a bad thing as there are a lot of posters here, so it's natural there would be some subdividing of a community with thousands of active posters.

Also, there should be a category I'm likely to win. Like "drinks the most Coke" or "does the least work".

Ha ha ...I want a catagory called "Wrestling asshole fan." I think with how some feel , I'd win this one big time.

[Chris N]

12 categories?

1: Most obsessive Axel Rose fan
3: Most annoying ECW fan
2: Best Muppet Chef avatar
4: Most obsessed with earning that Rita's Championship

Hmmm...

5: Internet Pope most likely to be boozing it up
6: Largest collection of Anne Hathaway photos
7: Most likely to marry Cronin

ummm

[Paradox]

I, personally, would like to see the Corries be far more about the boards and posters and far less about comics like it used to be, but no one really agrees with me on that one. :wink:

Specific note?

8. The "Abbott & Costello" Award (Funniest Couple)

Change that to Funniest DUO, please. Makes it sound like only people in a romantic relationship with each other are allowed. :biggrin:

[GozertheGozarian]

I, personally, would like to see the Corries be far more about the boards and posters and far less about comics like it used to be, but no one really agrees with me on that one. :wink:

Specific note?

8. The "Abbott & Costello" Award (Funniest Couple)

Change that to Funniest DUO, please. Makes it sound like only people in a romantic relationship with each other are allowed. :biggrin:
I like the idea of making it more board and poster centric and less comic.

[Paradox]

Oh, and I remember something from previous years.

For the poster nominations? Run board specific Corries ON each board and let the winners be the nominees. Then at least the "losers" would have an award for that board. The problem comes in administration, but I almost guarantee more participation, though.

[Typo Lad]

I, personally, would like to see the Corries be far more about the boards and posters and far less about comics like it used to be, but no one really agrees with me on that one. :wink:


I agree with this.

Oh, and I remember something from previous years.

For the poster nominations? Run board specific Corries ON each board and let the winners be the nominees. Then at least the "losers" would have an award for that board. The problem comes in administration, but I almost guarantee more participation, though.

Oh that's just an awesome idea. Especially if closed ballots are used.

[Brandon Hanvey]

For the poster nominations? Run board specific Corries ON each board and let the winners be the nominees. Then at least the "losers" would have an award for that board. The problem comes in administration, but I almost guarantee more participation, though.

The Corries as they are now are enough work in themselves but having them on each board would be a lot of work.

Plus would you really host them on each board? Some boards have really low traffic and may just be ignored due to not much interest.

Plus some people post across various boards. Do you limit them to one vote on a board or can they vote on multiple ones? Plus do you limit who they can vote for on a certain board to "regular" members of that board? If so, how do you determine who is a regular.

I think it creates more problems than needed.

[Brandon Hanvey]

I, personally, would like to see the Corries be far more about the boards and posters and far less about comics like it used to be, but no one really agrees with me on that one. :wink:


Some people enjoy the Comic Corries while others enjoy the Forums/Posters ones and some enjoy both.

I'm for reworking the Posters/Forums into something more overall community based. I'm good with expanding them a little by added and subtracting certain categories.

Here are some old Poster awards that have been dropped in the past.

14. The "Fire Hose" Award (Most Likely To Quell A Flamewar) :

15. The "Topic? What Topic?" Award (Most Frequent Thread-Drifter) :

18. Best Name :

19. Favorite Avatar :

20. Favorite Signature :


21. Favorite Poster Site :


23. The poster...
A. who you would like to get drunk with. :


B. who you would like to hang out with at a comic con. :

C. with the comics collection you would like to have.:


D. who most likely to become a comic book artist.:


E. who most likely to become a comic book writer.:

F. who you would most like to meet in real life.:


G. who you would most likely show a non-comic fan one of their posts.:

H. who spends the largest percentage of posts in only one thread.:



And some Forum awards from the past

4. Most Entertaining Thread:

5. Thread That Wouldn't Die:

6. Most Thought Provoking Thread :

7. Favorite Poll:

10. Most Missed Forum:

12. Forum With The Most Potential :

[Typo Lad]

Some people enjoy the Comic Corries while others enjoy the Forums/Posters ones and some enjoy both.

I'm for reworking the Posters/Forums into something more overall community based. I'm good with expanding them a little by added and subtracting certain categories.

Here are some old Poster awards that have been dropped in the past.

14. The "Fire Hose" Award (Most Likely To Quell A Flamewar) :

15. The "Topic? What Topic?" Award (Most Frequent Thread-Drifter) :

18. Best Name :

19. Favorite Avatar :

20. Favorite Signature :


21. Favorite Poster Site :


23. The poster...
A. who you would like to get drunk with. :


B. who you would like to hang out with at a comic con. :

C. with the comics collection you would like to have.:


D. who most likely to become a comic book artist.:


E. who most likely to become a comic book writer.:

F. who you would most like to meet in real life.:


G. who you would most likely show a non-comic fan one of their posts.:

H. who spends the largest percentage of posts in only one thread.:



And some Forum awards from the past

4. Most Entertaining Thread:

5. Thread That Wouldn't Die:

6. Most Thought Provoking Thread :

7. Favorite Poll:

10. Most Missed Forum:

12. Forum With The Most Potential :
See, those right there were the fun bits.

[Brandon Hanvey]

I liked the The poster... categories, but they tended to be low turn out categories.

Same goes for a bunch of the other ones I listed above, they were skipped by a bunch of people who only voted in certain categories.

[Paradox]

Brandon Hanvey notes:

The Corries as they are now are enough work in themselves but having them on each board would be a lot of work.

Well, I did say administration would be the problem. Frankly I think you folks have MADE it more work with the drawn out nomination process. I never understood the point. I never understood why you couldn't just throw the categories out there, then count the votes. It worked in the old days, and frankly you have less people participating now than then, don't you?


Plus would you really host them on each board? Some boards have really low traffic and may just be ignored due to not much interest.

I don't see how that's a problem. If people on that board aren't interested, they aren't interested.

Plus some people post across various boards. Do you limit them to one vote on a board or can they vote on multiple ones? Plus do you limit who they can vote for on a certain board to "regular" members of that board? If so, how do you determine who is a regular.

Free for all. You don't need answers to those questions if you don't ask them. :wink: Seriously. People winning on multiple boards would just be one nominee in the final. Everyone can vote anywhere/everywhere. Not enough people care about the Corries to "cheat" and plan to put someone in place that isn't wanted, do they?

I think it creates more problems than needed.

Only more work for the people in charge. None of the rest of that is really a problem that I can see. But it WOULD drum up more interest and participation, if that's what you're actually after.

[Asmith]

1.) I think the most missed poster award should be given honory to any member that has passed on. I don't like having posters to vote inbetween which dead friend they miss more.


It's a valid point. The award is meant to honor people who are no longer around. Having to choose who you miss more can be hard for some. Maybe it could just be a nominating category with no finals?


For the Corrie for the recently dead I think it has to go to every poster known to have passed on. Or no award at all.

As someone who is going to meet the eligibility criteria for that catergory in the next year or two, it horrifies me that voting for me may well cause some other poor bastard to miss out. To the point where I'm taking my name out of running now if it's still a horse race when I go.

To make the dead compete is beyond tacky. But the Corries are a fine place to remember them within the community.

[Chris N]

Most missed poster wasn't supposed to be for somebody who died necessarily. It was for a poster who hasn't posted for a while.

Dead people happen to fall into that category.

[StarsAndGarters]

Most missed poster wasn't supposed to be for somebody who died necessarily. It was for a poster who hasn't posted for a while.

Dead people happen to fall into that category.

Was the poster it was named after dead? I don't happen to remember. If they weren't, I think separating the award from recognition of posters who have passed would make sense. We clearly should do something to remember them, but I think it would also be okay to recognize people we miss that have a chance to come back.

[Brandon Hanvey]

Was the poster it was named after dead? I don't happen to remember.

It was named after a poster named The Goblin Queen who passed away a while ago.


If they weren't, I think separating the award from recognition of posters who have passed would make sense. We clearly should do something to remember them, but I think it would also be okay to recognize people we miss that have a chance to come back.

Maybe a in memoriam part of the awards that is a listing of posters who have passed away.

[Asmith]

Most missed poster wasn't supposed to be for somebody who died necessarily. It was for a poster who hasn't posted for a while.

Dead people happen to fall into that category.
That's a tough one then, as it places the dead in competition with the living. The appropriateness of such a race becomes tangled with emotionalism and showing the proper respect.


It was named after a poster named The Goblin Queen who passed away a while ago.



Maybe a in memoriam part of the awards that is a listing of posters who have passed away.

Yes. The Oscars run a quick list of the dead - and that seems both respectful and appropriate. As well as playing to the concept of the Corries sense of community.

It would also negate any reasonable issues of appropriateness of dead posters' names appearing in any other contesting catergories - including the 'Most Missed' one (though a kinder way of expressing that wouldn't be the most terrible of thing).

[Jack Flash]

I'd like to see a "Most missed from the forum" (Someone who stopped posting) and an "In Memorium award". Since they are two distinctively different things.

I like the Corries. I remember when I first started posting here how cool I thought it was that we honored folks for being part of the "community".

[Brandon Hanvey]

After taking the suggestions from various posters, I drafted a 1st draft of what the Poster Categories could look like.


1. Favorite Poster

2. The "Fresh Meat" Award (Favorite New Poster)


3. Most Gregarious/Friendliest Poster


4 The "Weilander" (The Above And Beyond Award)


5. Funniest Poster


6. The Know-it-all award (Intelligent Poster)


7. Most Improved Poster


8. CBR Staple


9. Most Creative/Talented Poster


10. The "Topic? What Topic?" Award (Most Frequent Thread-Drifter)

11 Best Name

12. Favorite Avatar

13. Favorite Signature

14. Favorite Poster Site

In memoriam (Not an award. Just letting people honor posters who have passed the past year).


15. The poster...
A. who you would like to get drunk with.

B. who you would like to hang out with at a comic con.

C. with the comics collection you would like to have.

D. who most likely to become a comic book artist.

E. who most likely to become a comic book writer.

F. who you would most like to meet in real life.

Let me know what you guys think.

[Kees_L]

The discussions both as suggestions sound good. I'll be wanting to take time to vote in some way.
Although I will need to ascertain what Staple means again (I'm guessing most favourably busy CBR-ist?) and how to differentiate this from the Weilander (most legendary presence?).
If there could be some point of 'limited visibility' in the voting or nominating, then that could be good against any loomingly felt 'enforced wins due to sheer numbers or bandwagon-jumping', which would be the only negative I could think of in this.
But then, voting should probably just reflect opinion, so some wagonjumping should maybe be allowed to occur.
Like in Comic Corries maybe independents should just remain in league with the majors, although if they'd be washed out where they shouldn't, then that would surely be unfortunate.

[o1pickleboy]

After taking the suggestions from various posters, I drafted a 1st draft of what the Poster Categories could look like.


1. Favorite Poster

2. The "Fresh Meat" Award (Favorite New Poster)


3. Most Gregarious/Friendliest Poster


4 The "Weilander" (The Above And Beyond Award)


5. Funniest Poster


6. The Know-it-all award (Intelligent Poster)


7. Most Improved Poster


8. CBR Staple


9. Most Creative/Talented Poster


10. The "Topic? What Topic?" Award (Most Frequent Thread-Drifter)

11 Best Name

12. Favorite Avatar

13. Favorite Signature

14. Favorite Poster Site

In memoriam (Not an award. Just letting people honor posters who have passed the past year).


15. The poster...
A. who you would like to get drunk with.

B. who you would like to hang out with at a comic con.

C. with the comics collection you would like to have.

D. who most likely to become a comic book artist.

E. who most likely to become a comic book writer.

F. who you would most like to meet in real life.

Let me know what you guys think.

Add in a "Get a room" corrie and I think your set.

[Matt Algren]

A thought on the "secret" ballot.

Maybe the finals could be done via the Forum Polling system. It would take a little more time to set up each category since each one would be a separate thread. But it could let people vote secretly and the results be somewhat live.

We could have open nominations with up to 3 selections which you have to post in a response.

The top 3-5 nominations go to the finals and are voted via a poll.
I really like this idea. First, it gets rid of the "I'm voting for someone not on the ballot whether you like it or not you big meanie" nonsense. Second, you're right that it would take a bit longer to set up, but tallying would be infinitely easier.

It would also open up the thread for people telling why they voted that way. More interaction, less distraction. (I wouldn't mind it being a public vote, though, rather than secret.)

On other fronts, I just think the boards have gotten too big for some of the poster awards. Between the X-Boards, Rumbles, Comm, YABS, and people who never leave the DC boards, the community is so fragmented that having an awards thing once a year can't possibly bring it together. There are so many personalities so unknown to the majority of people that having a forum-wide winner is meaningless.

Having said that, two suggestions: 1) Absolutely 100% agree that Most Missed should be more open-ended. 2) Clarify that "The Thread that Wouldn't Die" refers to threads that people wanted to end, not Rita's, Downtown Khazan, X-Cresions, or the other chat threads. That drives me nuts every year, on account of I obsess over dumb stuff.

[Brandon Hanvey]

Working on the Comic Corries.

I'm still toying with the idea of doing a poll system for the Comics finals. Since we are parring down the categories, it wouldn't be too much of a hassle to set up a thread for each. I just worry some people would find it overwhelming to have to vote in 12 separate polls.

1. Favorite Company/Publisher

2. Favorite Single Issue

3. Favorite Continuing Series

4. Favorite Limited/Mini Series

5. Favorite New Series

6. Favorite Graphic Novel/Collection/Trade Album (combined two categories)

7. Favorite Comics Cover

8. Favorite Online/Digital Comic

9. Favorite Writer

10. Favorite Artist

11. Favorite Comic Creative talent (May need a better name)
(This is a combination of the "secondary" comic talents such as letter, colorist, inker, or even editor)

or

11. Favorite Comic Auteur
(A creator who writes and draws)

12. Favorite Cover Artist

[Brandon Hanvey]

I still don't know about the Forums categories. They seem like the categories that are the most one sided in voting and tend to always have the same 3 to 4 finalist.

[Kees_L]

10. The "Topic? What Topic?" Award (Most Frequent Thread-Drifter)

This one seems slightly difficult to me.
Can thread-drifting generally be seen as a *good* thing then?
Or does this award potentially say its nominee/winner to being sort of a meatball?

Which will be all good no doubt. But I personally would suggest maybe something more like:

The "And Then There's You..." or
"You're Somethin' Else" Award (Don't Know How Or What Exactly, But You're Doin' It, Bub).

Just a suggestion.

[Conn Seanery]

It all depends on how you look at it. That award was intended to recognize someone who thread-drifted a lot, that's it. Whether that's a good or bad thing is up to the voter.

The name changes you've suggested seem to make that less clear, unless you're mentioning those with the "meatball" thing in mind. There's already a funniest poster award, it seems like you're suggesting a "weird poster" style category which has the potential to tread into the negative.

[GozertheGozarian]

For voting, I think a stickied thread with a link to an offsite polling page would save a lot of time and energy. You could fit all the catagories in one place.

[Brandon Hanvey]

For voting, I think a stickied thread with a link to an offsite polling page would save a lot of time and energy. You could fit all the catagories in one place.

The only problem with that is tracking whether or not the votes are really CBR members and if people are only really voting once per person.

[Kees_L]

The name changes you've suggested seem to make that less clear, unless you're mentioning those with the "meatball" thing in mind.

Totally, you read me well (!).
I tried to avoid the notion of drifting (which seems ambiguous depending on the started thread-quality) and instead come up with an award being neither positive or negative. But a necessity for any such I leave up to more mattering / senior people of course :smile:.

[Brandon Hanvey]

Tentative 2009 Corries

Comic Nominations
01/04/10 to 01/10/10

Poster Nominations
01/11/10 to 01/17/10

Comic Finals
01/18/10 to 01/24/10

Poster Finals
01/25/10 to 01/31/10

[Brandon Hanvey]

Further revision of The Posters


1. Favorite Poster

2. The "Fresh Meat" Award (Favorite New Poster)


3. Most Gregarious/Friendliest Poster


4 The "Weilander" (The Above And Beyond Award)


5. Funniest Poster


6. The Know-it-all award (Intelligent Poster)


7. Most Improved Poster


8. CBR Staple


9. Most Creative/Talented Poster


10. Best Name

11. Favorite Avatar

12. Favorite Signature

13. Favorite Poster Site

In memoriam (Not an award. Just letting people honor posters who have passed the past year).


14. The poster...
A. who you would like to get drunk with.

B. who you would like to hang out with at a comic con.

C. with the comics collection you would like to have.

D. who most likely to become a comic book artist.

E. who most likely to become a comic book writer.

F. who you would most like to meet in real life.

Let me know what you guys think.

[Alex]

True story guys, i was the one who suggested adding a category to vote on comics!
Swear to Jebus!

[Pól Rua]

See, those right there were the fun bits.
I agree.

It was named after a poster named The Goblin Queen who passed away a while ago.
I think changing the name might be a good way to do that. Speaking as someone who has a 'most missed' Corrie, I'm well aware that there are people who leave and come back and are missed in their absence, and I felt very glad to know that I had been missed.
I think there's definitely a place for posters whose absence is felt,
Maybe a in memoriam part of the awards that is a listing of posters who have passed away.
But I think this is a classy idea.

[Sighphi]

I vote for myself in all the poster awards.
Even the couples one.

[Dreadstar]

I know that the "wittiest" and "funniest" seem to be redundant, but "wittiest" is the one award I've won that I treasure, because it's named in memorium to The Scarlet Rob.

[Cei-U!]

Hmm. If you retire the "Comics Guru" award, that makes me the only person who ever won it. Sweet!

Cei-U!
I summon the champeen!

[Brandon Hanvey]

Going over the Comic Nominations rules.

Please read the rules before nominating.
• Nominations last from [date] - [date]
• Nominate up to three selections per category. Over three sections will null all nominations in that category.
• Do not nominate any book or company you have worked for.
• Nominations can be changed or added until the deadline.
• Nominate only books that have come out in 2009 unless otherwise noted in the category.
• Nominate only creators who have published at least one comic in 2009 unless otherwise noted in the category.
• Nominate in as many or as few categories as you want.
• Please be clear about what you are nominating. Any vague or unclear nominations will not be counted.
• Any category not getting enough nominations for three finalists may not be considered for the finals.
• The selections with the most nominations go on to the finals.
• Please only post in this thread to nominate in the categories. Any questions or comments should be made on the
Corries Q&A thread.
• If you wish to have your nominations not made public, please Private Message me with your selections.

[Brandon Hanvey]

Still up in the air about the 11th Comic Corrie.

It's either

11. Favorite Comic Creative talent (May need a better name)
(This is a combination of the "secondary" comic talents such as letter, colorist, inker, or even editor)

or

11. Favorite Comic Auteur
(A creator who writes and draws)

Or I guess we could drop it all together and just have 11 categories.

[Brandon Hanvey]

Going over the descriptions/notes for each category.

1. Favorite Company/Publisher/Imprint

Note on imprints. You can nominate them separately from their parent company if you want

2. Favorite Single Comic

This can be any comic that can out this year whether it is a single issue, graphic novel, or trade collection. Series do not count.

3. Favorite Continuing Series

This is meant for series that do not have a defined ending that come out on a regular basis.

4. Favorite Limited/Maxi/Mini Series

At least two issues of the series must have come out this year to be eligible to be nominated.

5. Favorite New Series

The 1st issue must have come out in 2009.

6. Favorite Graphic Novel/Collection/Trade Album

Note on trades. While the content can be from any time, the book must be newly published this year. Trades published before 2009 that are still in print are ineligible.

7. Favorite Comics Cover

Please give the issue number if applicable.

8. Favorite Online/Digital Comic

Please post website address if you can.

9. Favorite Writer

10. Favorite Artist

11. Favorite Comic Auteur

This is meant to be a single creator who both writes and draws their comics. Not art teams or writer/artist teams/collaborators.

12. Favorite Cover Artist

[DetectiveDupin]

When does this start or whatever?

[Brandon Hanvey]

The Comic Nominations are scheduled to start on 01/04/10 and go to 01/10/10.

[Azure]

No awards for the best double-act and/or potential romantic couple? Aw, shucks.