V

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

if there is already a thread for this then please merge. but i'm currently watching this and i already have a few things that bugs me...so i hope i'm not the only one that thought the human reaction was too indifferent and laxidaisical??...it also bugs me how these new genre series always have the boring and dull human interest subplots that go nowhere. but so far the pilot episode looks very sleek and stylish. (which kinda bugs me too). i also think Wolf's character is dumb and unprofessional. i hope the season doesn't creep to a crawl with a bunch of filler episodes. and why are the FBI not reassigned to investigating the aliens. i'm not saying society should just stop what they're doing, but i think aliens arriving would take precedence over everything else. morris chestnut is hot btw. speaking of which its real clever how they are all super gorgous...humans are stupid so i can see how that would work.

[JCAll]

I'm not hating it. But I really find shows that jump between plots so fast that you can't keep track of a character's name in bad taste.

[mattbib]

I was expecting to hate this reimagining, and am completely caught off guard by how much I enjoyed the pilot. The effects were superb, the acting great, the story intense. The concept's close enough ot the original series, but there was enough unexpected events that I found I was watching this for THIS, and not because I enjoyed the original. Really, I stopped making comparisons by the end.

[Redem]

-Damn Dishwasher I can't say if her french was anygood

-People start to clap right away....yea...right

-The military are pretty fast to get in place I must say (actually thing really goes pretty fast, it feel like it goes on in a day in the first act actually)

-The whole attractiveness a bit too early to work as a question cause we only saw one closely (and this is hollywood they are no plain looking people) but you can't help but notice that small ploy when Lisa pop-up

-Damn first episode and people are always found bloody and tied up to a chair...theses invaders don't loose time (thought it might be someone else)

-The special effect are pretty nice (when they are not apple)

-Dying guy give criticial information to some bloke he just met....very original

-I sure hope the camera crew is alien because she's just did something really made that like even more sleezeball and them as rather slimy

-Universial healthcare is now truly a tool for the destuction of american way of life by alien invaders!

-Huh while I haven't seen the original V serie isn't the "they were here before" pretty BSG?

-boy theses fights suck

-Thoses aliens really don't know squat about subtility!

-Hum I'm not sure Devotion quite the correct word but anyway

-Pretty sastifying, I'll probably watch more, I hope it does world buidling well

[kmeyers]

I was expecting to hate this reimagining, and am completely caught off guard by how much I enjoyed the pilot. The effects were superb, the acting great, the story intense. The concept's close enough ot the original series, but there was enough unexpected events that I found I was watching this for THIS, and not because I enjoyed the original. Really, I stopped making comparisons by the end.


I totally agree. I tuned in tonight, mostly just for nostalgia and not expecting to like it. I know it's only the first episode, but I'm in, this show is great so far.

V

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

-Huh while I haven't seen the original V serie isn't the "they were here before" pretty BSG?


not quite the same... i think that sub plot is based on real life conspiracy theories. they just happen to be right.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

I totally agree. I tuned in tonight, mostly just for nostalgia and not expecting to like it. I know it's only the first episode, but I'm in, this show is great so far.

Vmy thoughts as well. i had a few things that bugged me though. i just hope the pace stays fast, and not slow to a crawl and die like InVasion did.

[Redem]

not quite the same... i think that sub plot is based on real life conspiracy theories. they just happen to be right.

Yea, but I think that BSG might have help push it forward

What an horrible world...David Icke is right....and since healthcare reform is evil...black guy are deceiver and a traitor...that serie should be strangely popular with people who think Obama is the devil incarnated :biggrin:

[LordEd1976]

morris chestnut is hot btw. speaking of which its real clever how they are all super gorgous...humans are stupid so i can see how that would work.

what better way to attract prey then by showing something pleasant.

I'm wondering about that Jet Fighter crash. I know it was mentioned that teh cause was total electronic systems failure. But still, seems too quickly explained. Plus, the pilot was apparently dead by the time the chute opened. I suppose he could've pulled a Goose and slammed his head against the cockpit glass when he ejected. But still. In a case like this, having everything answered as cleanly as that is not a comfort.

[fireSTRIKE!]

I liked it... a lot...
and this is from a fan of the original V's when they first aired back on ABC in 83 and 84...

just do a comparison between that V and this V and you tell ME what YOU think is the better one... when you DO, I think you'll know the answer to that...

I know which one I like... a lot...

[ZNOP]

Being that I just finished watching the all day marathon:biggrin: -- I did notice one thing that stood out. The premise for coming to earth was exactly the same word for word. Other than that I haven't watched it al yet. I like to watch sci-fi when daytime tv is boring me to death with Jerry Springer and the like.

So I'll be back to add my two cents.

[blackdragon6]

loved it....well liked it anyways.

[ILLUS]

Liked it so far. Would have enjoyed more mystery and it needed to be longer. Not happy Tory from BSG is in the next ep but glad to see the dude from 4400 still working.

[blackdragon6]

i also thought it was too short for a major premire...

[West Mantooth]

It was just okay. Nothing that makes you say "you have to watch this", but good enough to tell someone if they ask.

[7thangel]

the original v holds a special place for me that might not stand the test of time.

this new version was ok, but besides being really short (should have been 2 hours), things get explained and accepted in record time. i figured that the series would at least have some suspense and a normal pace to let things sink in.

[Sabrinaset]

Yea, but I think that BSG might have help push it forward

What an horrible world...David Icke is right....and since healthcare reform is evil...black guy are deceiver and a traitor...that serie should be strangely popular with people who think Obama is the devil incarnated :biggrin:

Ah, you're referring to this (http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-tc-tvcolumn-v-1102-1103nov03,0,7062976.story), right?

[JCAll]

i also thought it was too short for a major premire...

I disagree. The 2 hour pilots need to stop. A 2 hour finale is one thing, where they know they really have your attention and you have to wrap everything up, but 2 hour pilots just drag on.

[berk]

if there is already a thread for this then please merge. but i'm currently watching this and i already have a few things that bugs me...so i hope i'm not the only one that thought the human reaction was too indifferent and laxidaisical??...it also bugs me how these new genre series always have the boring and dull human interest subplots that go nowhere. but so far the pilot episode looks very sleek and stylish. (which kinda bugs me too). i also think Wolf's character is dumb and unprofessional. i hope the season doesn't creep to a crawl with a bunch of filler episodes. and why are the FBI not reassigned to investigating the aliens. i'm not saying society should just stop what they're doing, but i think aliens arriving would take precedence over everything else. morris chestnut is hot btw. speaking of which its real clever how they are all super gorgous...humans are stupid so i can see how that would work.Totally agree about the response of the human population to the incredible epoch-making event of ALIENS FROM OUTER SPACE COMING TO EARTH IN SPACESHIPS!!! And yes, I also found a lot of the human interest stuff, like the mother/son relationship, pretty annoying in their adherence to standard tv-show stereotypes.

I'd been hoping for a BSG-like reimagining of a mediocre original, but generally I found the show not much better than what I remember of the old series, which I never thought much good at the time. I started to lose interest before the first commercial break and only sort of half watched it after that. Don't think I'll be carrying on with this.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

would at least have some suspense and a normal pace to let things sink in.
yeah that bugged me too...

[jdwrocks]

The only thing that bugged me was the clapping from the populace. Never would've happened. Also the teenage son of the FBI agent is thew worst character of the show. Smile for me again you douche bag.

[West Mantooth]

The son kept reminding me of Adam Lambert. Wanted to punch him for being so stupid. Why tape yourself vandalizing you idiot.

[Tazirai]

I also agree on the One hour thing. It was fast, confusing,paced correctly, built upon the major characters in record time and had some good GREAT effects. I'll stick around, I'm hoping theres a broad long term goal for the show Like BSG.

I guess EVERY sci fi show from now on will be compared to BSG as the standard. I couldnt think of a better one. But im definitely in for the long haul, I do hope that SCi-FI will pick up this show if ABC drops the ball, and lord knows they are good at that.

Defying gravity anyone?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I turned it the moment the female FBI agent sits there within seconds of her partner being a V spy with others , trying to kill them ; she goes... "We need to get a group togethor against the V."

Then the black guy , he's a V who has turned against his people. And is helping the humans now.

It was like... how fast can we hit every plot point and the FBI agent within seconds of this claiming a group is needed ....I was like.... good-bye. I mean ... at least be a bit real. You'd be confused , scared ...paranoid ...and scared for your son. Not seconds later thinking of starting a combat group.

It was rushing to hit every plot point and trying to hook people for next week.

[West Mantooth]

According to the article I read on io9, the rest of the three episodes are going to cram as well.

http://io9.com/5396219/v-is-not-doomed-and-you-should-still-watch

[escapegoat]

Count me in as another fan of the original series, who's enjoying the slight twists and turns with the new version. At first I thought maybe it was moving too quickly for a one-hour premiere, but then figured that if they had done a two-hour premiere they would have gotten to the same point as they did at the end of the one-hour version. So I don't mind the quickness of it.

And yeah, the scene with the people applauding after the big spaceship message? Very unlikely...

[Romero]

i also thought it was too short for a major premire...

Yeah, it really needed a two hour premiere episode. Stuff was really rushed. As with most things, in the wrong hands two hours can drag, but I was getting whiplash from all the jumping around and exposition being thrown at me.

*Spoiler-ish* I figured Alan T.'s character was the mole, but not in the way it turned out. Did NOT see Morris Chestnut's character being what he actually is..*

I think Morena played Anna just right. A strange menace under what is trying to be a sincere smile, but it all just seems off.

Dammit, I still miss Mike Donovan!

[David Walton]

I'm too young to remember most of V, though I do remember the gist.

I like this show so far. Pacing felt right, actually. I don't need to waste two hours on a premeire.

I liked the characters, too.

[Joe no Sleep]

*Spoiler-ish* I figured Alan T.'s character was the mole, but not in the way it turned out. Did NOT see Morris Chestnut's character being what he actually is..*
!

Actually, having Alan T. play the mole was very predictable, considering it's him. Oh, when will we see him play an average guy with an overdue mortgage driving late looking for that protractor his son forgot to tell him he needed for school tomorrow until the last minute?:wink:

[passer-by]

A very promising beginning.

Compared to the 1984 original it has V-moles among us beforehand. Looks like nuBSG with the humanoid Cylons hiding among us as opposed to the 70s original. I prefer that turn of events.

I'll watch the 3 other episodes before the break till February 2nd. If it's well-written it'll certainly surpass nuBSG for me, mainly because it's pure Sci-Fi this time. None of the mystical mumbo-jumbo in nuBSG that was so badly intertwined with the Sci-Fi part that it turned me off the series, especially with the final season.

[pariah-1972]

When does this come on?

[West Mantooth]

Tuesdays at 8(eastern)

[pariah-1972]

Tuesdays at 8(eastern)Thanks i loved the original series !

[BeastieRunner]

I might watch next week if I remember. I was wholly underwhelmed (except it had really good FX for a TV show, dang!) with the plot ...

[meethraa]

I'd been hoping for a BSG-like reimagining of a mediocre original, but generally I found the show not much better than what I remember of the old series, which I never thought much good at the time.
That's my problem with this show. It's exactly the same thing, so why bother doing it at all?
I was especially irritated that they'd keep one of the worst subplots of the original (the son becoming a V lackey) with an actor who's apparently JUST AS HORRIBLE AS THE ORIGINAL.

I'll watch the other 3 episodes anyway, but next year... probably not.

[meethraa]

Dammit, I still miss Mike Donovan!
That's one of the few things they did improve with this remake, if you ask me.

[DonC]

Eh... I wasn't impressed. The V sleeper cell was the only thing that interested me. Everything else was just a retread of the old version. Give me something new and I might come back.

[David Walton]

I'm interested to see how V addresses religion. One of the things I've never really liked about the dominant sci-fi approach to religion is the concept that aliens would invalidate or undermine religious values...so I hope we get something better with the priest than the idea that the religious leaders are just hitching their wagon on the next promising thing.

[marshal99]

The pilot was way too rush and the switching between past and present doesn't do it any favors.

I wonder what David Icke thinks of this series , the reptilian/draconians conspiracy of them being among us from the start and taking over the government slowly is pretty much what david icke "theorise" over the years and his theories are considered "non-fiction".

[Alexrules]

It wasn't bad. But you notice the color for all sci-fi remakes is grey? Star Trek had a lot of grey. Battlestar was very grey. The inside of the 'Vs' ship was also gray all over. There are other colors, people.

[Mia]

It was okay. But it was way too rushed and too contrived. I can see miserable and un-happy people immediately embrassing these aliens. But everyone else jumping on the band wagon like that was un-realistic. There was only one way that could have happened is for the vistors to have solved some kind of world-wide humanitarian crisis. Human beings are too suspicious and would have needed some up front convicing. I really would have prefered a slow role out like the first season of Heroes. But all of this seemed made up in a way that doesn't engage my brain. I was happy to see Laura Vandervoort, she really does have a knack for playing sinister girls. I was actually creeped out each time she smiled.

[Phil Clark]

The biggest problem that I have with the initial concept is that any military leader will tell you the same thing. One mother ship appearing over a perceived capitol of the earth (the UN for example) is possibly a visit. 15 such ships appearing over all the major capitols of the globe is an invasion and should be treated militarily as such. Maybe not an immediate strike, but planning should be in process to deal with them if there are that many.

[blackdragon6]

i honestly loved the pacing!!!, but yeah the bandwagon jumping was a lil too unbelievable for me.

[Treqqor]

The biggest problem that I have with the initial concept is that any military leader will tell you the same thing. One mother ship appearing over a perceived capitol of the earth (the UN for example) is possibly a visit. 15 such ships appearing over all the major capitols of the globe is an invasion and should be treated militarily as such. Maybe not an immediate strike, but planning should be in process to deal with them if there are that many.

We didn't get the heads of military point of view.
Who's to say they didn't have their fingers on some pretty devastating buttons, just waiting for the go-ahead from the world leaders?

The point of view of a priest isn't exactly covering the thoughts of the leaders of nations.

[BeastieRunner]

I read a review saying that V should be called O(bama). I thought it was pretty funny.:smile:

I wonder if that's intentional.

[Mia]

The biggest problem that I have with the initial concept is that any military leader will tell you the same thing. One mother ship appearing over a perceived capitol of the earth (the UN for example) is possibly a visit. 15 such ships appearing over all the major capitols of the globe is an invasion and should be treated militarily as such. Maybe not an immediate strike, but planning should be in process to deal with them if there are that many.

Right.

Back to my original point. The producers should have come up with a story which had a serious crisis on earth, such as lack of food due to global warming, which in turn leads to economic colapse and conflicts. The globe is a mess and on the verge of nuclear war (I should also add that most of the planet has lost faith in religion).

Then the visitors show up with their technology and help to solve the problem with the environment and food grows, things calm down and relative peace ensues. Everyone is so happy they start to show adoration. Except of course not everyone buys what is going on.


I read on wiki that the original series in V was supposed to be an alagory to the rise of a facist government (ie. Nazi's).

[StoneGold]

The biggest problem that I have with the initial concept is that any military leader will tell you the same thing. One mother ship appearing over a perceived capitol of the earth (the UN for example) is possibly a visit. 15 such ships appearing over all the major capitols of the globe is an invasion and should be treated militarily as such. Maybe not an immediate strike, but planning should be in process to deal with them if there are that many.

Yeah, but they're hot. That changes everything.

[Wolf-Man]

When do the V's blow up British Parliament??

Oh.

It was alright. The FBI agent, the priest, the guy getting married were all ok. The FBI agent's kid was just a douche and I hope he gets eaten ASAP. The reporter has potential but didn't really grab me at first. Anna was ok, but the whole 'We trust them because they're hot' thing was kind of stupid. Most hot people I know are self centred jerks.

Perhaps they put out pheromones or something to make you like them.

[Tazirai]

i honestly loved the pacing!!!, but yeah the bandwagon jumping was a lil too unbelievable for me.

well it was supposed to be a two hour premiere So i tend to think they rushed it quite a bit, to get people involved. Something tells me the quick pacing was to get people talking and excited. I woulda loved it more if they did a BSG type intro however. I'll keep watching.

[Indigo Al]

Gotta say, I hate the resistance. They're annoying. And I hate the bland and boring fashions/design of these Visitors. Why do they have human names? How do they speak English? The original V addressed all that in a quick intro. Don't these people wonder?

I feel like where the original was a blatant Nazi analog, this one is a Scientology analog (and an Obama/Tea party analog? I'm kinda sick of that horse).

I am intrigued enough to keep watching though.

[JCAll]

Right.

Back to my original point. The producers should have come up with a story which had a serious crisis on earth, such as lack of food due to global warming, which in turn leads to economic colapse and conflicts. The globe is a mess and on the verge of nuclear war (I should also add that most of the planet has lost faith in religion).

Then the visitors show up with their technology and help to solve the problem with the environment and food grows, things calm down and relative peace ensues. Everyone is so happy they start to show adoration. Except of course not everyone buys what is going on.


I read on wiki that the original series in V was supposed to be an alagory to the rise of a facist government (ie. Nazi's).

Wouldn't setting up a distopian future for the aliens come into defeat the point. I'ts supposed to be Aliens show up right now. It even said so in the opening.

[kalorama]

It had a definite old-school; sci-fi vibe about it, which I generally like. I find the decompressed storytelling that seems to have infiltrated both movies and comics to often be overblown and tedious. The flip side, however, is that the shorthand approach requires more suspension of disbeleif as not everything is carefully alaid out, stone by stone. As long as you know that going in and are willing to take the leap, it works okay.

I mean it's ludicrous that that no on seems to question the fact that, not only do the aliens look like us, but they talk like us, dress like us, and have names like ours (Anna? Lisa?). And why, when the FBI anti-terrorism expert gets her hands on concrete evidence that the aliens are involved in a terrorist plot, does she decide to start a "resistance" movement with a priest rather than, I don't know, taking the evidence to her bosses, the guys with all the guns, tanks, and fighter planes? Ridiculous on it's face, but once you fall in line with the idea that's the kind of "real world" the thing takes place in, it looks like it could be a fun rie.

[Tazirai]

you guys are forgetting they've been on Earth for decades, im pretty sure any advanced enough civilization, that can cross or warp space, wont have much problems with English.

Hell Even the Transformers learned our tongue in moments, With the Visitors so entrenched in our culture, dont find that hard to believe at all.

[passer-by]

It had a definite old-school; sci-fi vibe about it, which I generally like. I find the decompressed storytelling that seems to have infiltrated both movies and comics to often be overblown and tedious. The flip side, however, is that the shorthand approach requires more suspension of disbeleif as not everything is carefully alaid out, stone by stone. As long as you know that going in and are willing to take the leap, it works okay.

I mean it's ludicrous that that no on seems to question the fact that, not only do the aliens look like us, but they talk like us, dress like us, and have names like ours (Anna? Lisa?). And why, when the FBI anti-terrorism expert gets her hands on concrete evidence that the aliens are involved in a terrorist plot, does she decide to start a "resistance" movement with a priest rather than, I don't know, taking the evidence to her bosses, the guys with all the guns, tanks, and fighter planes? Ridiculous on it's face, but once you fall in line with the idea that's the kind of "real world" the thing takes place in, it looks like it could be a fun rie.
Because she was afraid some of them may be Visitors and had no idea who she could trust, for example.

Agree about the shorthand approach though. I didn't mind it mainly because I've watched the original mini-series (not the following 19 episodes). It did feel rushed, and if the plan was to have a two-hour pilot that for some reason got shortened, that would explain it.

[shamone]

so caught this last night

too slavishly in thrall with the old show. characters are all the same, their development seems to be heading same way as series

not as bad the haters say here, better than flash forward anyway

sad wash was a bad guy - should not be

too rushed though. defo no lead in, straight away they are lizards. seemed like this was part two of the pilot

noticed the heavy right wing agenda, with thev as democrats, sayiong trust us and all will be good, the healthcare they are offering will be seen as bad. Even the media comments, yes obama is open to the media, but only if complient. And the priest, si he going to be representative of the bible belt.


wasnt even subtle

[David Walton]

noticed the heavy right wing agenda, with thev as democrats, sayiong trust us and all will be good, the healthcare they are offering will be seen as bad. Even the media comments, yes obama is open to the media, but only if complient. And the priest, si he going to be representative of the bible belt.


wasnt even subtle

I don't know. I tend to think the idea of the aliens offering the assistance rather than humans working out their own problems through congress adds a dimension that isn't liberal or conservative.

Also, I think the aliens were offering actual healing, like the guy in the wheelchair. So the "universal healthcare" remark was a bit of a "lost in translation" kind of joke. These guys aren't offering a health care plan--they're offering to heal disease and potentially end all suffering.

[Indigo Al]

I mean it's ludicrous that that no on seems to question the fact that, not only do the aliens look like us, but they talk like us, dress like us, and have names like ours (Anna? Lisa?).

Exactly my point. In the original V, it took John the Supreme Commander all of five minutes to explain "We have been monitoring your broadcasts for quite some time to learn your language" and "as our names in our native tongue would sound unusual to you, we have chosen simple names from Earth. My name is John."

The more I think about it, the more this feels like an allegory for Scientology, not the Obama administration.

[fireSTRIKE!]

in the original V, Diana was a scheming, conniving and totally ruthless bitch...

in the new V, though it's too early to get a feel and a handle on her character, but to me, Anna just comes across as really creepy... always smiling and what's with her batting her eyelashes the way she did in that final scene?... VERY creepy...

[kalorama]

Because she was afraid some of them may be Visitors and had no idea who she could trust, for example.

Two problems with that explanation:

1) The same could be said of pretty much anyone, so if she's going to avoid confiding in people who actually have the power to do something because she's afraid they can't be trusted, why should she trust a bunch of people she doesn't even know?

2) There is (at least theoretically) a way to tell if someone's a V or not and she knows what it is. If she sends what she knows to enough people in power, odds are at least some of them will take action. True, some may be V's, but odds are that unless they've infiltrated all levels of government, chances are pretty strong that most of them won't, and they can institute testing for the others. And it wouldn't really matter if the V's are on to the fact that they know, because if they had the numbers and power to simply take over the world by sheer force, they wouldn't have bothered with the whole infiltration scheme.

[West Mantooth]

Not taking it to her bosses wasn't the stupid part, cause even if her boss wasn't a V, his bosses' boss might have been or so on.

The last line should have been, "I don't know." Give everyone a chance,including the audience, to ponder what is the next step and best solution. They way they ended it lays out her next step.

[kalorama]

Not taking it to her bosses wasn't the stupid part, cause even if her boss wasn't a V, his bosses' boss might have been or so on.

If she only took the info to one person, maybe. But if she sent to info to multiple sources in the military, law enforcement, the media at the same time, the odds of the all being Vs are pretty slim. At that point, unless everybody on the chain of command, from her immediate supervisor to the head of the FBI, to the Attorney General, to the President was a V, it wouldn't matter. In any event, the odds of that plan succeeding would be infinitely greater than some kind of ragtag underground resistance movement taking down hi-tech aliens with giant space ships.

[Pro]

And it wouldn't really matter if the V's are on to the fact that they know, because if they had the numbers and power to simply take over the world by sheer force, they wouldn't have bothered with the whole infiltration scheme.

Of course there is a reason to bother with the whole infiltration scheme: you don't nuke your food if you still want to eat it. Doesn't mean you can't nuke it if it objects. And just because you know someone's going to be diner doesn't mean you can'shout if from the rooftops if the endresult will be massive deaths.
Even if they don't have the power to take over the world with sheer force i'm fairly sure 29 motherships hovering over the major cities of earth will decimate humanity if the V's decide to wreck havoc in retalliation to an open revolt.

[Pro]

In any event, the odds of that plan succeeding would be infinitely greater than some kind of ragtag underground resistance movement taking down hi-tech aliens with giant space ships.

What plan? Tell people about the aliens? Then what? Still got 29 motherships hovering over all major cities in the world. It's already been shown switching off earth technology is not a problem for the V's. So what would be your step 2? Send in a strike force? How? They wouldn't even come close.
Nukes? Might as well let the aliens wipe out mankind then because it'll have the same effect. Hell, all the aliens have to do is rev up their engines and houses start falling apart. Let alone the fact they have the technology to affect gravity.
So what's the plan? Once you told a bunch of higher ups what's next?

[maczero]

What plan? Tell people about the aliens? Then what? Still got 29 motherships hovering over all major cities in the world. It's already been shown switching off earth technology is not a problem for the V's. So what would be your step 2? Send in a strike force? How? They wouldn't even come close.
Nukes? Might as well let the aliens wipe out mankind then because it'll have the same effect. Hell, all the aliens have to do is rev up their engines and houses start falling apart. Let alone the fact they have the technology to affect gravity.
So what's the plan? Once you told a bunch of higher ups what's next?Look at it from the V's point of view as well. An all out war with humanity is something they obviously wanted to avoid or else they would have come out swinging. Maybe they can't spare the resources to take over the planet through military force.

[M. Bushbug]

Look at it from the V's point of view as well. An all out war with humanity is something they obviously wanted to avoid or else they would have come out swinging. Maybe they can't spare the resources to take over the planet through military force.You don't wage war against the livestock.

[maczero]

You don't wage war against the livestock.True but they aren't coralling us in pens either. Maybe are numbers are too great to take us by force and bombing us to hell kinda defeats the purpose of coming earth (if we're the main reason).

[M. Bushbug]

True but they aren't coralling us in pens either. Maybe are numbers are too great to take us by force and bombing us to hell kinda defeats the purpose of coming earth (if we're the main reason).Why corral anyone? The health care is great!

[West Mantooth]

This is all pro-Obama propaganda. If we have crazy socialized Canadian healthcare, we wouldn't fall for the aliens so quick!

I'm so stupid.:frown:

[maczero]

Why corral anyone? The health care is great!That's my point. I was responding to someone who said the downside in revealing the true face of the V's was that we couldn't beat them in all out war. Maybe they don't want to or can't conquer us by force.

If it were leaked that they were reptilian and had been watching us for years, I'm guessing their response would be to to crank out more propaganda.

[Ilostmyplace]

Look at it from the V's point of view as well. An all out war with humanity is something they obviously wanted to avoid or else they would have come out swinging. Maybe they can't spare the resources to take over the planet through military force.

Just like the old V show. They seemed to have trader Vs in there army as well.

[Ontir]

I just watched S1E1 yesterday.

Yeah, the traitors/5th Columnists were in the original, played by "Freddie Kruger" in the original. I like the way they've put this together, so far. I think it will work far better in a post-9/11 world than the original did in the Reagan 80's. Morena Baccarin was also a great choice.

[Green Griffin]

i don't like the son, i hope he gets eaten soon.

[StoneGold]

i don't like the son, i hope he gets eaten soon.

If it's anything like the original, not for a while. But it's OK, he goes straight-up Nazi stormtrooper.


Which I guess was more ironic in the original, him being Jewish.

[Hoss]

Over the past week, I've watched the first 20 hours of 24 season 7 on DVD. I watched V last night and the comparison between the 24 sensibility and the V sensisbility really hurt V for me.

[Indigo Al]

in the original V, Diana was a scheming, conniving and totally ruthless bitch...

in the new V, though it's too early to get a feel and a handle on her character, but to me, Anna just comes across as really creepy... always smiling and what's with her batting her eyelashes the way she did in that final scene?... VERY creepy...

Hence why these Visitors remind me more of Scientology and less of Nazi Germany. They have this creepy brainwashed New Age crystal glow all about them --- and that flyer Lisa handed out looks like it could be Scientology literature.

[The Black Guardian]

True but they aren't coralling us in pens either.
Different type of livestock; different type of corralling; different type of pen.

[Mia]

Wouldn't setting up a distopian future for the aliens come into defeat the point. I'ts supposed to be Aliens show up right now. It even said so in the opening.

No it wouldn't. Because as been metioned before. There is no way on earth a buch of Aliens would show up on earth the way they do and in the numbers they do and elicit that type of adoration.

[Ilostmyplace]

It was ok. Not as good as the original thoe. But It was one 1 hour long. I it was originally 2 miniseries and then a not so good show. I'm at least happy there are a group of Vs traitors in the show. But it seems like they tried to show to much in vary little time. :frown: But mostly I was hoping for a little butt more character development. Not another Battlestar Galactica ripoff.:frown:

[David Walton]

No it wouldn't. Because as been metioned before. There is no way on earth a buch of Aliens would show up on earth the way they do and in the numbers they do and elicit that type of adoration.

Yeah, given the debate over illegal immigration in the past few years, now might be the worst possible time for them to show!!!!

Support the intergalactic fence!!!!

[kalorama]

Of course there is a reason to bother with the whole infiltration scheme: you don't nuke your food if you still want to eat it. Doesn't mean you can't nuke it if it objects. And just because you know someone's going to be diner doesn't mean you can'shout if from the rooftops if the endresult will be massive deaths.

But given that massive deaths are actually the intended end result of the aliens' plan that's really not much of an argument against the FBI chick blowing the whistle on them.

Even if they don't have the power to take over the world with sheer force i'm fairly sure 29 motherships hovering over the major cities of earth will decimate humanity if the V's decide to wreck havoc in retalliation to an open revolt.

So the better solution is to stand by silently while humanity is enslaved and/or slaughtered?

[Phil Clark]

Everyone needs to keep in mind that this is the pilot for the series. The show could develop in any of a few different directions when it returns in the spring. They will see what worked with the viewers and what didn't and fine tune from there, possibly. It happens all the time.

For example, Accidentally On Purpose' pilot had three room mates sitting watching TV when Jenna Elfman came out of the bedroom, but when they revisited that scene in the first true episode, one of the room mates was gone. And know one of the others is all but gone.

[kalorama]

What plan? Tell people about the aliens? Then what? Still got 29 motherships hovering over all major cities in the world. It's already been shown switching off earth technology is not a problem for the V's.

Where was that shown?

So what would be your step 2? Send in a strike force? How? They wouldn't even come close.
Nukes? Might as well let the aliens wipe out mankind then because it'll have the same effect. Hell, all the aliens have to do is rev up their engines and houses start falling apart.

Again, if they had that kind of power, there'd be no need for the subterfuge.

Let alone the fact they have the technology to affect gravity.

Technology which may or may not have weapons applications.


So what's the plan? Once you told a bunch of higher ups what's next?

If by "a bunch of higher ups" you mean the rulers of the worlds major military powers . . . well, I think part two would be pretty obvious.

[M. Bushbug]

Technology which may or may not have weapons applications.We saw the application of the technology in action. It has weapon applications.

[Hoss]

Yeah, given the debate over illegal immigration in the past few years, now might be the worst possible time for them to show!!!!

Support the intergalactic fence!!!!


Major props if they create a crazy loon Lou Dobbs TV personality to refute Party of Five boy's propaganda.

[streator]

is the first episode of this online? i might try to watch it before tonight's episode. i'm somewhat interested in this.

[thespianphryne]

Dude, the pilot of this was so fucked. Let's cram three hours worth of material into one hour. It'll all make sense!

[Redem]

The flying ball remind me of the Rover from the prisoner and of countless cheesy tv sci-fi device (the rover not included) when I see it I think of something really retro,maybe because unlike nowaday tech its big lound and distinctive


You know the ship doesn't seem to be moving, I wonder if that mean some part are perpetually block from the sun, the resistance must be mostly compose who are pissed from the perpetual shadow

a new resistance...this could be interesting...

Seeing how weak the blue shirt are, I really think they won't try the nazi imagery anytime soon

Heh I fear that that show won't have any deeper meaning, that episode was pretty boring, the V come off as more weak than frightful
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[Sighphi]

I really like this take on V.
It really make sense with the times.

[Sighphi]

Where was that shown?



First episode.
You see an f-16 crash into the street then news report mention that this happened several times.

[Ronald Bryan]

Someone should talk to the sound designer on the show. The "moody music" in surround sound is actually just speaker popping in the rear speakers (at least in mine), and it's really annoying. And when there's no music, the rear sound is fine. IIt sounds like someone is trying to put bass in the back.

[Ilostmyplace]

Heh I fear that that show won't have any deeper meaning, that episode was pretty boring, the V come off as more weak than frightful

In a way I know what you mean. The V's Diet seemed to have changed. :frown:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VObQfWMgmIM

[JCAll]

The V should go with the Phantasm floaty balls of death. They don't go down as easy.
And I would expect super advanced civilizations to get better image quality than that.
That's my main gripe, still like the show.

[passer-by]

Good second episode with balanced development of several plots.

I liked the final scene. :wink:

[West Mantooth]

That snake hallucination bed from Ikea was very cool.

Agree that it was a good second effort. Hope the ratings stay.

[Green Griffin]

pretty boring episode, but i'll keep watching because nothing else is on.

[streator]

i watched both episodes yesterday, and i'm not terribly impressed.

there seems to be potential but something about the show just seems too hokey for me. i was kind of hoping that they wouldn't have the v's be wearing human "suits" but rather able to change into human appearance or something along the lines of the brood.

i don't think elizabeth mitchell as the heroine does it for me, either. i'm more interested to see where they go with the younger priest.

[Bouncing Boy]

i was kind of hoping that they wouldn't have the v's be wearing human "suits" but rather able to change into human appearance or something along the lines of the brood.

But then it wouldn't be V. I actually liked their update on the human suits though. Instead of latex masks, they're actually wearing a fake flesh, it's pretty awesome.

[mortari]

Anyone else notice the address of the warehouse

4400

[Dave Bennett]

It was reported today that the Vatican is going to open discussions and studies into the implications of extraterrestrial life on human theology!!

http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20091110/4af90160_3ca6_1552620091110715814798

This is really surprising timing, considering the faith-based storyline that has just started on 'V'!!

[maczero]

That snake hallucination bed from Ikea was very cool.
I thought it was kind of cheesy. In fact, I laughed at how ridiculous that scene was. Unless the guy had an intese snake phobia, It just didn't seem like the kind of torture that would break someone.

But then it wouldn't be V. I actually liked their update on the human suits though. Instead of latex masks, they're actually wearing a fake flesh, it's pretty awesome.I don't mind the fake flesh, but it could be a little thinner. If the fake flesh is nearly an inch thick, then that would make the V's significantly skinnier than the average human.

[Phil Clark]

Just think how much more startling they will appear when we finally see them in their uncovered state. You know that will be coming. They are obviously reptilian, but just how reptilian? Nobody knows yet.

[Redem]

Just think how much more startling they will appear when we finally see them in their uncovered state. You know that will be coming. They are obviously reptilian, but just how reptilian? Nobody knows yet.

Just wait until they do an episode about their mating season

[Phil Clark]

Well, if the female lays eggs, that I don't need to see. But Morena Baccarin nekid... count me in. :cool:

[7thangel]

smh, not very good so far.

i dread every time that horrible actor who plays the son shows up (same with his friend). were they drunk when they did the casting?

'conflict of faith priest' reminds me of how much i miss 4400

[kalorama]

First episode.
You see an f-16 crash into the street then news report mention that this happened several times.

It was never said or even implied that the V's had the ability to "switch off earth technology." The plane crashes were most likely the result of massive turbulence caused by the ships' sudden entry into their airspace.

If they had the ability to deactivate Earth weapons with the flick of a switch, that would really beg the question of why they didn't just take the planet by force. If they had those kinds of weapons, it's not like we could stop them.

[kalorama]

We saw the application of the technology in action. It has weapon applications.

What, making crystal spike shooting balls that float around? Oooo, scary. I'm talking about the kind of application that would make them such a formidable force that attacking them head on with the force of our military would be doomed to failure. We saw nothing close to that.

[M. Bushbug]

What, making crystal spike shooting balls that float around? Oooo, scary. I'm talking about the kind of application that would make them such a formidable force that attacking them head on with the force of our military would be doomed to failure. We saw nothing close to that.
You do realize that the generate gravity for the entire ship( of which they have several)? You realize that we've seen finessed control of that gravity? You realize that we've seen accidental destruction with them trying to make a peaceful entrance? I mean they took out a fighter by mistake.

[kalorama]

You do realize that the generate gravity for the entire ship( of which they have several)? You realize that we've seen finessed control of that gravity? You realize that we've seen accidental destruction with them trying to make a peaceful entrance? I mean they took out a fighter by mistake.

"By mistake" being the key word. Someone put forth the argument that attacking the Vs head on would be doomed to failure because "they have the technology to affect gravity." Sorry, but engine turbulence isn't exactly a formidable weapon. Certainly not enough to justify not fighting back against a hostile alien invasion. I'm sure they do have some pretty cool weapons, but if they had the kinds of weapons that could render ours inert and useless at the touch of a button, I'm betting they'd have opened with them.

And, for the record, we haven't actually seen them control gravity. We've seen them neutralize and/or overcome it to power their ships and make their little balls fly. But there's no indication of how, exactly, they do it, which means that there's no way of knowing how or if it can be harnessed for a destructive weapon.

[Dave Bennett]

Sorry, but engine turbulence isn't exactly a formidable weapon.
:confused:

The news report said the jet fighter experienced complete electrical system failure.

[Tazirai]

Anyone else notice the address of the warehouse

4400

yep good shout out to the Priest.

[Pro]

The news report said the jet fighter experienced complete electrical system failure.

Don't confuse him with facts, he just wants you to admit he is right, you're wrong.

Where was that shown?

Other people already answered this: plane-total electrical failure-boom

Again, if they had that kind of power, there'd be no need for the subterfuge.

If their plan was to:"Blow shit up and leave again", no. You'd be absolutely right if all they want to do is "blow shit up and leave again".
Do you believe all they want is "blow shit up and leave again"? No? Well there you go then, they have a need for subterfuge!
If there wasn't a need for subterfuge they'd just "blow shit up and leave again".
I mean do you honestly think a race that has developed the ability to control gravity hasn't discovered the atom bomb? Even if each mothership carries 1 weapon that does damage on the scale of an atombomb earth will be devastated. Useless to both humans and V's.
They have a need for subterfuge: to preserve earth for their own purposes.
I thought that was pretty clear.

Technology which may or may not have weapons applications.

Don't be naive.

If by "a bunch of higher ups" you mean the rulers of the worlds major military powers . . . well, I think part two would be pretty obvious.

And the end result is also blatantly obvious.

[M. Bushbug]

Don't confuse him with facts, he just wants you to admit he is right, you're wrong. That's usually what these types of discussions end up as.That's not completely fair.

Theres always the chance that he'll just not respond to the post at all and not bring up the topic again.

[Mia]

I saw the second episode and was genuinely not impressed. I know that a show/movie is not good when I start to root for the bad guys. That lead actress Elizabeth Mitchell is annoying as hell. I'll give it one more chance to improve otherwise I'm gone.

i watched both episodes yesterday, and i'm not terribly impressed.

there seems to be potential but something about the show just seems too hokey for me. i was kind of hoping that they wouldn't have the v's be wearing human "suits" but rather able to change into human appearance or something along the lines of the brood.

.

They dropped a serious ball when they did not develop some eartly conflict (ie. worlwide famine) that would provide a good reason for the Vistors to suddenly arrive and offering their help. As it is there is no way on earth that aliens could show up en mass the way they do in this show and not a) arouse a whole lot of suspiscion and b) or get that amount of adoration. No way jose.

[Phil Clark]

I saw the second episode and was genuinely not impressed. I know that a show/movie is not good when I start to root for the bad guys. That lead actress Elizabeth Mitchell is annoying as hell. I'll give it one more chance to improve otherwise I'm gone.

You might want to wait until it's return in the spring. The three episode premiere we are seeing was set months ago. When they come back it could well be tweaked to address what shortcomings they find in the story after the broadcast and viewer feedback. You might find it a different show on it's return.

[Ilostmyplace]

The sad thing is I don't think the new V is going to make it. :frown: I hoping on it, so it would at lest get better. But if guys behind the new V thinks that this remake is more darker then the original, then they would be wrong. I main I understand why they needed to do a remake and all. But the original V was not as watered down as the original Battlestar Galactica was. The thing was the original V was more creeper then the new V. The 2 that we now know are Vs the FBI guy and that one trader are Vs and they where eating normal food. But in the original V show they where eat rats, Hamsters, (or at lest Diana eat one whole Hamster, And the poor thing tried to pull itself out ) Braids, (Yeap, Diana bit it's head off. Ozzy, would be so proud of her. ) And l even people. Just ask that one kid that got to get served on a serving platter. And let's not forget the twins being born. One looked normal until it did the whole hissing thing. And then the other coming scales and all. And last but not least. Robert (Freddy Krueger) Englund was in the show. And even when it came to sex scenes the original V did that 2 times as to where original Battlestar Galactica had none. And not forgetting that Diana the main villain in the show was most likely a Bisexual. She was hitting on both Men and Woman.

[BeastieRunner]

Put in a movie half way through. I just can't get interested in it.

[Mia]

You might want to wait until it's return in the spring. The three episode premiere we are seeing was set months ago. When they come back it could well be tweaked to address what shortcomings they find in the story after the broadcast and viewer feedback. You might find it a different show on it's return.

Oh, well thanks for the 411. Hopefully one of the things that will be 'tweaked' is either the recasting of Mitchell's role. Or a new lead character.

[Green Griffin]

another boring episode, the only thing that saved it was Supergirl in her Bra and Panties.

[maczero]

The V's are certainly concerned about their image and their propaganda campaign. That's why I say the FBI agent should've posted a youtube video of the "unskinned" Visitor and a bunch of dead humans would've been the way to go rather than keeping things quiet.

[pariah-1972]

I finally got to watch this last night i thought it was pretty darn good so far.

[Romero]

I'm still on board.

I just wish we had seen a little more of their "lizardness."

However, it looks like they are going to amp it up next week.

[Indigo Al]

I'm still on board.

I just wish we had seen a little more of their "lizardness."

However, it looks like they are going to amp it up next week.

Here's hoping. Let's see some rats getting swallowed whole, for pity's sake!

I did enjoy this episode more than any other thus far. The PR invasion is way creepier and insidious than any military attack.

I wonder if the woman who led the anti-Visitor tea parties was a) Converted via their device (like in old-school V), b) was a Visitor with an identical human skin, or c) genuinely won over by Anna?

[DrDoom616]

I live in the UK and we are not getting this show until January :mad:

[streator]

The V's are certainly concerned about their image and their propaganda campaign. That's why I say the FBI agent should've posted a youtube video of the "unskinned" Visitor and a bunch of dead humans would've been the way to go rather than keeping things quiet.

i had a similar thought the other night; the best thing the resistance could do would be to show that the v's aren't who they appear to be; for them, right now, image is everything. exposing what they actually are would probably convince enough people in the world not to trust them. why wouldn't one of the v's who is part of the resistance demonstrate their true nature to the world just to get it out there? as we saw in an earlier episode, they have the technology to repair their human suits, so removing part of their skin isn't such a huge deal or anything (aside from blowing their cover, but if the resistance was that important you'd think someone would sacrifice it). even if the v's tried to cover it up, on a large scale, it would at least get people thinking and asking more questions.

i missed this week's episode, and i haven't decided if i'll watch it online or not. i guess it depends on how busy i am this weekend.

[ILLUS]

True. Great point. The traitors in the 5th Column are already putting it on the line, why not step it up and show themselves and expose their people?

[Ilostmyplace]

OK V is getting better. :) I'm only mad at the fact that I would have like to have seen this stuff at the beginning, or at least make it a nice 2 hour/2 part mini series. But this last EP did get a lot better. I really loved the part about the 5th Column. Mainly because there were in the original V. And I I loved that seen where the V doctor that was working Dale Maddox and told him flat out that he would work with her then be an enemy of her. Then he killed him telling that he was apart of the 5th Column. :evilsmile: Like i said getting better.

[Ilostmyplace]

What the. test.

[Ilostmyplace]

OK V is getting better. :) I'm only mad at the fact that I would have like to have seen this stuff at the beginning, or at least make it a nice 2 hour/2 part mini series. But this last EP did get a lot better. I really loved the part about the 5th Column. Mainly because there were in the original V. And I I loved that seen where the V doctor that was working Dale Maddox and told him flat out that he would work with her then be an enemy of her. Then he killed him telling that he was apart of the 5th Column. Like i said getting better.

[Chou Blaster]

Well my thoguhts so far:

1: It is great so far, sure we do not see how alien they are yet, a soppsoed to the orignal (Which I own) They are doing agood job a thow damn creepy they are, the Vs, got these soul-less stares. Make sthem so dman un-nerving. (Kudos to the acting there.) *Atleast for me anyway.*


2: Though I siad, I am shocked that so man ypeople ar eown voe rb ythem, sur ethey are healni gpeople and stuff. And sure they annuoc ethei rmaking our world a "stop" on thie rintegalactic road trip, so why bothe rgoing so far to have us worship them? Tha tlaone tlel sme they got shit to hide (And wlel gla dot see that some of the humans oppsoe them.)

3: It seems ot me the DOuch ebag son is the new "Robin" aka: He gets lziar digrl pregger sand we get antohe rmosnte rbaby birht scene and he's the dad and goni got be trippnig his mind. (While in th eorignal it was some neighborhood guy who actually did solide rwork iwth the Vs and when he fialed, got ha sass eatten, lol.)


4: I can "udnerstand" why the Ressitance does no tmake pulbic announcmeents yet. Why? PR. The Vs got th eemdia on thier side (For now) and they cna spin doctor it inot anything. (Inclduin gmakni gth elziard bodies seem fake, I mean come on,w ould you believe at first chance the lziar dform si the tru eform of the Vs?) Oh no, th eonly case that cna be epxosed is if someone got "exposed' o nthe air. THen the shit will fly.


5: TH eother reason is, think why all the 5th Colum are in Secret/ Their afraid, and a good reason why. We have ye tto see just how pwoerufl the Vs are. I mean, in the orignal one Mother Ship could nuke the world. (Doomsday device.) So yeah, cosndierin gwhen they touched down a ship pwned a je tplane jsut bieng too close, show show pwoeruflt heir tech cna be.

I mena the siz eof th edman thing suggest ot me, they could use the gravity drive sot punch hoels thorugh the cities, akin to a Nuke, but with no nuclear fall out.

Not to mention thei rmind tricks/illusions, and other stuff they cna brin gup. (Like the fact they seem to be hacke dinto our comunciaitons, rmemeber/ When the FBi lady phoned 911, it was cut from the main hot lnie, and isntead only pciked up because her V parnter was lsitneing in?)

[Tom]

I just watched a screener of the next episode and there's some major plot advancement and cliffhangers coming.

[Ilostmyplace]

Well my thoguhts so far:

1: It is great so far, sure we do not see how alien they are yet, a soppsoed to the orignal (Which I own) They are doing agood job a thow damn creepy they are, the Vs, got these soul-less stares. Make sthem so dman un-nerving. (Kudos to the acting there.) *Atleast for me anyway.*


2: Though I siad, I am shocked that so man ypeople ar eown voe rb ythem, sur ethey are healni gpeople and stuff. And sure they annuoc ethei rmaking our world a "stop" on thie rintegalactic road trip, so why bothe rgoing so far to have us worship them? Tha tlaone tlel sme they got shit to hide (And wlel gla dot see that some of the humans oppsoe them.)

3: It seems ot me the DOuch ebag son is the new "Robin" aka: He gets lziar digrl pregger sand we get antohe rmosnte rbaby birht scene and he's the dad and goni got be trippnig his mind. (While in th eorignal it was some neighborhood guy who actually did solide rwork iwth the Vs and when he fialed, got ha sass eatten, lol.)


4: I can "udnerstand" why the Ressitance does no tmake pulbic announcmeents yet. Why? PR. The Vs got th eemdia on thier side (For now) and they cna spin doctor it inot anything. (Inclduin gmakni gth elziard bodies seem fake, I mean come on,w ould you believe at first chance the lziar dform si the tru eform of the Vs?) Oh no, th eonly case that cna be epxosed is if someone got "exposed' o nthe air. THen the shit will fly.


5: TH eother reason is, think why all the 5th Colum are in Secret/ Their afraid, and a good reason why. We have ye tto see just how pwoerufl the Vs are. I mean, in the orignal one Mother Ship could nuke the world. (Doomsday device.) So yeah, cosndierin gwhen they touched down a ship pwned a je tplane jsut bieng too close, show show pwoeruflt heir tech cna be.

I mena the siz eof th edman thing suggest ot me, they could use the gravity drive sot punch hoels thorugh the cities, akin to a Nuke, but with no nuclear fall out.

Not to mention thei rmind tricks/illusions, and other stuff they cna brin gup. (Like the fact they seem to be hacke dinto our comunciaitons, rmemeber/ When the FBi lady phoned 911, it was cut from the main hot lnie, and isntead only pciked up because her V parnter was lsitneing in?)
Wow so many misspelled words. :frown:

[Captain Smith]

It is moving slowly and without suspense. We know they are bad from the first show and thus there is no big reveal.

So eventually, we will find out their big plan to eat us all. Seen that already.

The original show was a touch more kinky. Supergirl skin was the only interesting thing as pointed out before.

So just nuke or have Will and Jeff plant a virus in their OS.

[Dark Galaxy]

I just watched a screener of the next episode and there's some major plot advancement and cliffhangers coming.

Hmmm. I was going to give up, but maybe I'll watch one more episode now.

Overall, it hasn't been awful, but it hasn't been great. Mostly, I've just been bored.

[Redem]

Is that me or Tyler the only guy who really seem to eat up the V message? (and he is a pretty unlikeable character in my humble opinion)

I for one starting to think they will make up the Visitor plan as they go along

and oh what were they suppose to do with the flu shot?

[pariah-1972]

Is that me or Tyler the only guy who really seem to eat up the V message? (and he is a pretty unlikeable character in my humble opinion)

I for one starting to think they will make up the Visitor plan as they go along

and oh what were they suppose to do with the flu shot?Tyler is unlikeable? he's just a kid who's being ruled by his hormones and slightly naive.

[Chachi]

Loved the original series. This one is ok so far. Few thoughts / questions:

1. What exactly is Ana's plan with Tyler? To impregnate her daughter? I think supergirl turns on her "mother" eventually.

2. Whats in the vitamin / flu shot?

3. Fifth Column is the original V's? This to me is the most interesting story so far. John May Lives!

[Redem]

Tyler is unlikeable? he's just a kid who's being ruled by his hormones and slightly naive.

Yea but Tyler suppose to be the one that genuily like the alien, he suppose to symbolise the humans that get become devoted to the aliens, so considering that his basicly being driven by hormone and mommy issues...that's make him a pretty flat-character for something that could be a lot more complex

[pariah-1972]

I imagine whatever is in the Flu shoot would either make them highly susceptible to the V's or make them even more sick if the situation calls for it.

[pariah-1972]

Yea but Tyler suppose to be the one that genuily like the alien, he suppose to symbolise the humans that get become devoted to the aliens, so considering that his basicly being driven by hormone and mommy issues...that's make him a pretty flat-character for something that could be a lo more complexMaybe we just need to see more people who believe just for the sake of believing.

[Sighphi]

Loved the original series. This one is ok so far. Few thoughts / questions:

1. What exactly is Ana's plan with Tyler? To impregnate her daughter? I think supergirl turns on her "mother" eventually.

I guess?
But since there is already a Hybrid on the way it would be redundant.


2. Whats in the vitamin / flu shot?

Stuff that makes people dumb?


3. Fifth Column is the original V's? This to me is the most interesting story so far. John May Lives!

Yes.

[Indigo Al]

So much for Jake 2.0 of the 5th Column!

I also wonder what was up with that telepathic New Age spa bath/80's Chanel No.5 commercial.

[streator]

georgie said pretty much what i had suggested a few weeks back about exposing a v to the general public. too bad the other resistance members disagreed with him for lame reasons.

the show isn't coming back on until march? that seems like quite a bit of a break.

i'm interested to see what the v's want with tyler. i don't think it's something to do with him getting the blonde v pregnant or anything. was there a specific reason he was shown the propulsion room of the ship?

the ending with all of the other ships was cool, but i don't know if i'll be as interested in three months. lost will be back by then.

[Phil Clark]

My wife saw the first ship (way the hell out there by the way) and said "That's ominous" and as they continued to pull back I said "No, THATS ominous" as they revealed hundreds of ships.

The scary thing is that the ships seemed to be outside of our galaxy, so one wonders firstly, how fast do these suckers travel, and secondly, where did they come from?

That could be a more prominent driving point than their plan.

[Phil Clark]

georgie said pretty much what i had suggested a few weeks back about exposing a v to the general public. too bad the other resistance members disagreed with him for lame reasons.

What I find interesting is that apparently the V's feel through the skin. And also apparently the skinning process kills them and hurts like a MF.

So would skinning a V from the fifth column to reveal what they are underneath kill that V? Or can they skin a V without killing it?

[Indigo Al]

What I find interesting is that apparently the V's feel through the skin. And also apparently the skinning process kills them and hurts like a MF.

So would skinning a V from the fifth column to reveal what they are underneath kill that V? Or can they skin a V without killing it?

Maybe instead of eating humans, the Visitors want to colonize the earth - and so that "flu shot" is a way to genetically prepare them to be 'inhabited' by a Visitor? I don't know.

[Romero]

They're really holding back on the "lizard"-ness so far. No cryptic shots of them eating some animal or even any other glimpse besides Alan Tudyk's face and Morris Chestnut's arm. Makes you wonder if they're going with the humans as food angle this time or not.

This human skin technique is obviously more advanced than the previous series, so maybe it does hurt when it comes off of them. I imagine they can also dig deep when they skin and get the lizard skin underneath.

Nice "Scrubs" promo last night too.

[TOAA]

georgie said pretty much what i had suggested a few weeks back about exposing a v to the general public. too bad the other resistance members disagreed with him for lame reasons.

Are we forgetting that one of resistance members is V and he said that Vs would nuke the earth if exposed? Or did i dream of this? :biggrin:

Besides, we know that if they die then their bodies don`t stay behind.

[fireSTRIKE!]

Are we forgetting that one of resistance members is V and he said that Vs would nuke the earth if exposed? Or did i dream of this? :biggrin:

Besides, we know that if they die then their bodies don`t stay behind.

extremely reminiscent of the old series, the Invaders, where whenever an alien would die, their body would burn up...

here it's done and looks a whole lot better...

[Hoss]

I get the feeling that the V "bliss" and collective happiness has alot to do with their desire to colonize the earth - probably harvest some sort of hormone from other folks and absorb. Could even be a Borg type thing and we might learn that those ships are full of other colonized races.

[blackdragon6]

They're really holding back on the "lizard"-ness so far. No cryptic shots of them eating some animal or even any other glimpse besides Alan Tudyk's face and Morris Chestnut's arm. .i'm not surprised by that, they don't want it TOO over the top sci-fi ish...

[Captain Smith]

Withou bisexual hot V chicks and the old gerbil/rat gobble - the new show is that interesting. Just another Independence Day on a slower scale. (scale - get it :tongue: )

[Phil Clark]

I see what you did there...

The V are watching.

[LordEd1976]

I see what you did there...

The V are watching.

But there is no need for alarm.

W, I mean, They are of peace. Always

[JCAll]

Yea but Tyler suppose to be the one that genuily like the alien, he suppose to symbolise the humans that get become devoted to the aliens, so considering that his basicly being driven by hormone and mommy issues...that's make him a pretty flat-character for something that could be a lot more complex

I'm sure there are plenty of people driven by the chance to pick up hot alien chicks.
William Shatner for example.

[marshal99]

Which heterosexual male wouldn't be interested in Morena Baccarin and Laura Vandervoort ?
Hot alien mama and daughter. :wink: