Is Kitty Pryde a "Mark"?

[darknessatnoon]

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I don't know about you guys, but I can't glance at an innocent picture of Kitty & Lockheed now without feeling like Lockheed is making Kitty look like a complete idiot.

And it's not just scenes in which the author knows that Lockheed is playing Kitty for a fool.

http://www.just-marvel-x-men.com/image-files/astonishing-x-men-shadowcat-lockheed-1.jpg

It feels like it's retroactively tainting every interaction they had in the past.

It's not as if Kitty wasn't played for creepy laughs in the past, such as this scene where evil Nightcrawler feels her up

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or her entire "straight man" to Pete Wisdom's wild and wacky guy (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8134/216319-191950-pete-wisdom_super.jpg).

It's not even as if the Bamfs didn't constantly make her appear ridiculous.

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But what Kitty had with Lockheed always struck me as pure. The Girl & her Dragon was the equivalent to the cherished American dream of the Boy & his dog. Rarely, does the dog speak more languages than you and spends 30 years spying on you and your friends for information.

Do you feel that Joss Whedon desecrated Kitty Pryde?

[darknessatnoon]

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[Monty_Cristo]

wouldn't it be Lockheed who is desecrated by these revelations? he's all of a sudden the old guy from Family Guy.

[darknessatnoon]

wouldn't it be Lockheed who is desecrated by these revelations? he's all of a sudden the old guy from Family Guy.

Well, just look at her giving him access to Excalibur's tech and security in that very first panel I posted. It really makes Kitty look incredibly gullible, don't you think?

[Novaya Havoc]

majinoaw memories </3

[RickyD410]

I never thought that Lockheed was ALWAYS spying on Kitty and the X-Men. I thought it started at the beginning of Whedon's Astonishing run. Cus Kitty is looking out at the sky, and she said "Lockheed wanted to fly here on his own, but I thought he'd get here before me" And Wolverine said "Dont worry, the Dragon'll show". Meaning he took a little detour on the way to Westchester. I thought that moment was when he was recruited by SWORD because of the upcoming Ord vs. Mutants drama.

[Prodigy55]

Yeah but he was always smart and knew every language apparently.

[darknessatnoon]

I never thought that Lockheed was ALWAYS spying on Kitty and the X-Men. I thought it started at the beginning of Whedon's Astonishing run. Cus Kitty is looking out at the sky, and she said "Lockheed wanted to fly here on his own, but I thought he'd get here before me" And Wolverine said "Dont worry, the Dragon'll show". Meaning he took a little detour on the way to Westchester. I thought that moment was when he was recruited by SWORD because of the upcoming Ord vs. Mutants drama.

Hmmmmm... I thought it was pretty clear that Lockheed had long-term diplomatic arrangement with Brand since Kitty first brought the alien creature to earth and began treating it like a pet.

[Monty_Cristo]

hmmm...this reminds me of something. oh yeah, Shortpack having a secret alliance behind Mystique's back.

[darknessatnoon]

hmmm...this reminds me of something. oh yeah, Shortpack having a secret alliance behind Mystique's back.

I don't really remember that plot since Shortpack has never been an important character and didn't really play into my love of comic books as a child.

[RickyD410]

Hmmmmm... I thought it was pretty clear that Lockheed had long-term diplomatic arrangement with Brand since Kitty first brought the alien creature to earth and began treating it like a pet.

What made it clear that it was long-term? I mean, maybe the agreement for him to work for SWORD was long-term, but I thought his employment just started directly before he showed up.

I never read when Kitty brought Lockheed back. Was there time for him to be recruited?

[Monty_Cristo]

I don't really remember that plot since Shortpack has never been an important character and didn't really play into my love of comic books as a child.

a child wouldn't be reading the classic literature that is Shortpack.

[Filthy Mutie]

Hmmmmm... I thought it was pretty clear that Lockheed had long-term diplomatic arrangement with Brand since Kitty first brought the alien creature to earth and began treating it like a pet.

Was this later in Whedon's run? I didn't make it passed "Dangerous".

[darknessatnoon]

What made it clear that it was long-term? I mean, maybe the agreement for him to work for SWORD was long-term, but I thought his employment just started directly before he showed up.

I never read when Kitty brought Lockheed back. Was there time for him to be recruited?

Lockheed always spent long periods of time away from Kitty on his own business. He would just swoop in to have an adventure with her every once in a while. He was stuck on the Secret Wars planet with her, as I recall, and she got him involved in an interdimensional diplomatic conflict with the Bamfs. He also faked his death for a long period of time.

Was this later in Whedon's run? I didn't make it passed "Dangerous".

Yes, it turns out Lockheed was spying on the X-Men as a favor to Brand in some deal for "his species." Whedon never followed up on that thread, though, and it looks like the relationship between Brand and Lockheed will be followed up on in SWORD. Brand got sick of Kitty and told her to stop coddling him like a "celebrity's chihuahua."

[Monty_Cristo]

do we have proof that shortpack isn't piloting Lockheed?

[Filthy Mutie]

Yes, it turns out Lockheed was spying on the X-Men as a favor to Brand in some deal for "his species." Whedon never followed up on that thread, though, and it looks like the relationship between Brand and Lockheed will be followed up on in SWORD. Brand got sick of Kitty and told her to stop coddling him like a "celebrity's chihuahua."

Huh.

And this spying bit goes back to about the first time he came to Earth? Or his return just prior to Whedoning X-Men?

[darknessatnoon]

It's not entirely Kitty's fault. She was a minor. Her "mother figure," Storm, as well as Professor X might have expressed some concern that Kitty had brought home an alien who was impervious to telepathy.

[darknessatnoon]

Huh.

And this spying bit goes back to about the first time he came to Earth? Or his return just prior to Whedoning X-Men?

It's not clear. SWORD appears to have been around for a long time. It's a huge operation and not even Maria Hill had access to its resources or even knew of its existence. Fury knew, but his relationship to that organization was fairly tenuous. In any case, it is certain that Lockheed has always had his own agenda whether or not he was always cutting deals on the side and selling out the mutant population.

[Daniel Mengsk]

Lockheed always spent long periods of time away from Kitty on his own business.

Wouldn't that have made the X-Men at least a bit suspicious about him though? I know, the retcon happened years afterwards. But concider this; they accepted a "dragon" (i.e. an extraterrestrial) to live among them, no questions asked depite knowing from their previous encounters with the Shi'ar that intelligent alien lifeforms come in all shapes and sizes. And to then leave said lifeform unsupervised around a teenage girl?

[RickyD410]

Lockheed always spent long periods of time away from Kitty on his own business. He would just swoop in to have an adventure with her every once in a while. He was stuck on the Secret Wars planet with her, as I recall, and she got him involved in an interdimensional diplomatic conflict with the Bamfs. He also faked his death for a long period of time.
Ah, I didnt realize this. Then I guess its completely possible. I just assumed since the first time we heard of it was in Astonishing, thats when it started. I hope we get some clarification in this in SWORD.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Lockheed fried the Brood eggs, remember?

[darknessatnoon]

Wouldn't that have made the X-Men at least a bit suspicious about him though? I know, the retcon happened years afterwards. But concider this; they accepted a "dragon" (i.e. an extraterrestrial) to live among them, no questions asked depite knowing from their previous encounters with the Shi'ar that intelligent alien lifeforms come in all shapes and sizes. And to then leave said lifeform unsupervised around a teenage girl?

I don't remember when they knew he was intelligent, but it was fairly early on. There were a lot of clues that he was smart, but the X-Men ignored them. He did speak English when in Excalibur but only to Pete Wisdom, and only when they were alone in order to terrorize him.

[The Black Guardian]

Lockheed is an evil, alien gator that needs to be ground up and stuffed into a sausage casing. Then grilled. And eaten.

Poor Kitty needs to have her Crying Game moment.

[Joe Acro]

He genuinely cared for her.

When exactly he decided to work for S.W.O.R.D. hasn't exactly been stated yet.

[Pixie_Solanas]

He genuinely cared for her.

When exactly he decided to work for S.W.O.R.D. hasn't exactly been stated yet.

or adequately explained...

[S'Cipio_66]

But what Kitty had with Lockheed always struck me as pure. The Girl & her Dragon was the equivalent to the cherished American dream of the Boy & his dog. Rarely, does the dog speak more languages than you and spends 30 years spying on you and your friends for information.


Not always. But, you know, sometimes..... :wink:

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-S'Cipio

[DeniseXfrost]

I miss Kitty.

[darknessatnoon]

He genuinely cared for her.

When exactly he decided to work for S.W.O.R.D. hasn't exactly been stated yet.

It seems so. Like, he had no real reason to hate Pete Wisdom other than that he thought he was scum taking advantage of his Kitty. He didn't want to see her hurt again.

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On the other hand, he took great pains to make Wisdom look insane in front of his teammates, which shows that Lockheed was a pretty ruthless creature.

[Joe Acro]

On the other hand, he took great pains to make Wisdom look insane in front of his teammates, which shows that Lockheed was a pretty ruthless creature.Because Wisdom was a jerk and needed to be humbled.

Not that it worked.

[darknessatnoon]

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[darknessatnoon]

Because Wisdom was a jerk and needed to be humbled.

Not that it worked.

Lockheed didn't come out of the whole thing looking spotless. He was a stalker who would steal Wisdom's clothes and cigarettes and sneak up on him to tell him "I hate you." I think he also lit him on fire a few times.

[Aguja]

This is further proof that Agent Brand is an amoral hussy and should DIAF post haste. She corrupted an innocent alien and made him betray his BFF.

Although making Kitty look bad is always a plus in my book, so I am somewhat torn.

[Daniel Mengsk]

I don't remember when they knew he was intelligent, but it was fairly early on. There were a lot of clues that he was smart, but the X-Men ignored them. He did speak English when in Excalibur but only to Pete Wisdom, and only when they were alone in order to terrorize him.

I wonder how much of Lockheed's past that Whedon knew about. He said something once about wanting to take Lockheed away from the "cute pet" thing and make him a more complex character. If he knew about the earlier stories were Lockheed, as you say showed intelligence, was it then a conscious attempt from Whedon's part to make the X-Men look foolish in the classical stories? And especially Kitty?

Whedon claimed that his version of Buffy was very much influenced by Kitty. Was this an attempt from his part to release some bottled up anger that he had for Buffy? Was he using Kitty as a proxy to do so?

[darknessatnoon]

I wonder how much of Lockheed's past that Whedon knew about. He said something once about wanting to take Lockheed away from the "cute pet" thing and make him a more complex character. If he knew about the earlier stories were Lockheed, as you say showed intelligence, was it then a conscious attempt from Whedon's part to make the X-Men look foolish in the classical stories? And especially Kitty?

Whedon claimed that his version of Buffy was very much influenced by Kitty. Was this an attempt from his part to release some bottled up anger that he had for Buffy? Was he using Kitty as a proxy to do so?

Kitty was Willow. Buffy would never be a Jewish character with brown curly hair. Emma was Buffy. Whedon was intentionally putting a twist on the childhood stories written by CC (which, btw, if you look at some of the images I posted in the opening post were NOT SO INNOCENT!), and retconning them into something adult. He specializes in taking pure relationships and extrapolating their more painful contradictions. It's his thing, and it never ends happily.

Whether or not Whedon was aware that Warren Ellis had already started to desecrate the Kitty/Lockheed friendship into one where Lockheed was more of an "inappropriate uncle" is unclear.

[Filthy Mutie]

It's not clear. SWORD appears to have been around for a long time. It's a huge operation and not even Maria Hill had access to its resources or even knew of its existence. Fury knew, but his relationship to that organization was fairly tenuous. In any case, it is certain that Lockheed has always had his own agenda whether or not he was always cutting deals on the side and selling out the mutant population.

Then, yes, she is a huge risk. Also: Whedon. This actually points to a larger problem, too.

How much information have sets like Hydra and AIM accumulated from the Xavier sub-basement over the years? Now and then some organization exclaims having "detailed files on every mutant" when one takes them by surprise. The source?


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book is soooo boringgggg!! like lol and zzzz!!!!! captain america and iron man are going to fight and shield is really hydra and mutants all become not mutants. LAME it dosnt even say what fashion is in. like ok destiny!! right?

omg i hate this place sumtimesssss!!!! no1s been taling to me cuz i called santo "sumthing racist." lolwhatever!1111 i have been upgrading all the security encryption in the mansion computer system just becuz. i make all the new passwords my favorite kinds of ice cream. shuld i list my top 10? what kind fo ice cream do you luv modyyyy????

KKKITTY


2009/10/29 M.O.D.O.K. <sparklehorserules@gmail.com>

HAHAHAHA, Katherine! You must watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcidD2HFK8M

So! How is your diary reading coming along? Anything exciting happening soon? I'm having trouble picking a password for my X-Box Live account--have any ideas for me?

XOX BFF,
M.O.D.O.K.

[darknessatnoon]

Then, yes, she is a huge risk. Also: Whedon. This actually points to a larger problem, too.

How much information have sets like Hydra and AIM accumulated from the Xavier sub-basement over the years? Now and then some organization exclaims having "detailed files on every mutant" when one takes them by surprise. The source?


from Kitty Pryde <princessariel@gmail.com>
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date Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:19 AM
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hide details 12:19 AM (28 minutes ago)

omg mody, thats sooo funny!!1 lol

book is soooo boringgggg!! like lol and zzzz!!!!! captain america and iron man are going to fight and shield is really hydra and mutants all become not mutants. LAME it dosnt even say what fashion is in. like ok destiny!! right?

omg i hate this place sumtimesssss!!!! no1s been taling to me cuz i called santo "sumthing racist." lolwhatever!1111 i have been upgrading all the security encryption in the mansion computer system just becuz. i make all the new passwords my favorite kinds of ice cream. shuld i list my top 10? what kind fo ice cream do you luv modyyyy????

KKKITTY


2009/10/29 M.O.D.O.K. <sparklehorserules@gmail.com>

HAHAHAHA, Katherine! You must watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcidD2HFK8M

So! How is your diary reading coming along? Anything exciting happening soon? I'm having trouble picking a password for my X-Box Live account--have any ideas for me?

XOX BFF,
M.O.D.O.K.

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I love how Wolverine clearly wants to execute him there and then. And Lockheed isn't threatened at all. He doesn't give a damn. That's a macho face-down if I've ever seen one.
Hisako looks like a stoned Japanese woman.

[Daniel Mengsk]

Kitty was Willow. Buffy would never be a Jewish character with brown curly hair. Emma was Buffy. Whedon was intentionally putting a twist on the childhood stories written by CC (which, btw, if you look at some of the images I posted in the opening post were NOT SO INNOCENT!), and retconning them into something adult. He specializes in taking pure relationships and extrapolating their more painful contradictions. It's his thing, and it never ends happily.


Heh, for a moment there I thought that you were talking about Emma Caulfield.

Yes, he does have a habit of taking "innocent" characters (Buffy the teenager, baby Connor etc) and twist this characters to become empty shells of what they could have been, had they not been manipulated by the people around them.

Maybe the "Lockheed is an adult alien lifeform that has been hanging out with a teenage girl and used her naïvity and innocense to get information" was a natural step for Whedon once he got hold of these characters. The innocent friendship between a girl and her pet as it appeared to other readers, was to him probably nothing more than raw material for him to work with.

[Joe Acro]

I like how she says they're pressing issues, and yet they don't seem to have been resolved.

But if they were pressing, that likely means his joining was a recent turn of events, no?

[darknessatnoon]

I like how she says they're pressing issues, and yet they don't seem to have been resolved.

But if they were pressing, that likely means his joining was a recent turn of events, no?

Yeah, I was always confused by the "since you rejoined" given that Kitty had just rejoined before the cancellation of XXM. And had quit and rejoined several times before that (including when she learned she was a NEO). It's easy to lose track. Lockheed's issues got sidelined a) by Whedon's lateness and b) by Secret Invasion. I imagine they will become even more pressing during SWORD.

[darknessatnoon]

Brand whirling around to shatter Kitty's world is one of the high points during Whedon's run. It took me right back to some of the extreme bitchery of high school.

[Joe Acro]

Yeah, I was always confused by the "since you rejoined" given that Kitty had just rejoined before the cancellation of XXM. And had quit and rejoined several times before that (including when she learned she was a NEO). It's easy to lose track. Lockheed's issues got sidelined a) by Whedon's lateness and b) by Secret Invasion. I imagine they will become even more pressing during SWORD.
She's likely referring to when Kitty rejoined the main team, at the start of Astonishing.

[darknessatnoon]

She's likely referring to when Kitty rejoined the main team, at the start of Astonishing.

Yeah, I got that now. Nevertheless, the dragon is a security risk and has desecrated their past together. Cyclops said no second chances. That applies to Lockheed if it applies to Mystique. The X-Men won't have him back. I think he has to stick the Avengers for now.

[M. Bushbug]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5VgL6ZXwkaw/RdXj0MfKQ0I/AAAAAAAABVo/v1LppUUa3eA/s320/Astonishing+X-Men-20-2.JPGMight you have a bigger version of this to share?

[Joe Acro]

Yeah, I got that now. Nevertheless, the dragon is a security risk and has desecrated their past together. Cyclops said no second chances. That applies to Lockheed if it applies to Mystique. The X-Men won't have him back. I think he has to stick the Avengers for now.He could stick with S.W.O.R.D. long enough to rescue Kitty. And then live happy with her somewhere.

[darknessatnoon]

Might you have a bigger version of this to share?

Maybe tomorrow. I found that on google. I'd have to find my own issue and I'm going to bed. It's basically Lockheed working with one contingent of SWORD while Danger ends up working with another. Basically, the two X-Traitors get paralleled here.

[Daniel Mengsk]

Because Wisdom was a jerk and needed to be humbled.

On the other hand, if Lockheed was working undercover, why take the risk of exposing himself like that?

[darknessatnoon]

On the other hand, if Lockheed was working undercover, why take the risk of exposing himself like that?

No one in Excalibur treated Pete Wisdom like a serious "person." He was the butt of the group joke. Lockheed was surfing that wave.

[Joe Acro]

On the other hand, if Lockheed was working undercover, why take the risk of exposing himself like that?Putting Wisdom in his place might be worth it.

[Daniel Mengsk]

LOL Wisdom must have been a really annoying guy then; all that I knew at the time was that he was dating Kitty, and that the age difference was somewhat conciderable. I didn't really follow Excalibur at the end.

[darknessatnoon]

LOL Wisdom must have been a really annoying guy then; all that I knew at the time was that he was dating Kitty, and that the age difference was somewhat conciderable. I didn't really follow Excalibur at the end.

Everyone hated him. Moira hated him. Brittinac hated him. Wolfesbane, Nightcrawler, Douglock, probably even Meggan. Kitty hate-fucked him. Colossus hated him so much that he broke Peter's back. The reader hated him and Lockheed was our voice.

[RickyD410]

Everyone hated Pete. And thats why I love Pete! :biggrin: He's one of my absolute favorites. Granted, I've only read him in New Excalibur and under Paul Cornell. But I loved him so much in Rudiments of Wisdom and MI 13.

[timbox]

Kitty has been nothing but nice to that stupid little dragon. He betrayed her.

Hard to blame him, though. Agent Brand can be very persuasive, and Kitty never let him do those sort of things.

[darknessatnoon]

Kitty has been nothing but nice to that stupid little dragon. He betrayed her.

Hard to blame him, though. Agent Brand can be very persuasive, and Kitty never let him do those sort of things.

Do you think Lockheed knew that Colossus was alive? Was his confrontation with Ord staged?

[timbox]

Do you think Lockheed knew that Colossus was alive? Was his confrontation with Ord staged?

As much as I want to castigate Lockheed for what he has done to my poor Kitten, I do not think he knew about Colossus and I feel he still held feelings for Kitty and was genuinely protecting her from Ord.

Brand is much too manipulative to give her little lackey spy all of the information. Look at how she continues to string Beast along. The information flow between Lockheed and Brand was a one-way street. She is even trying to handle Jess Drew now, but that won't go very far.

[Home made ectoplasm]

As much as I want to castigate Lockheed for what he has done to my poor Kitten...

I didn't know you were a Kitty fan

[darknessatnoon]

As much as I want to castigate Lockheed for what he has done to my poor Kitten, I do not think he knew about Colossus and I feel he still held feelings for Kitty and was genuinely protecting her from Ord.

Brand is much too manipulative to give her little lackey spy all of the information. Look at home she continues to string Beast along. The information flow between Lockheed and Brand was a one-way street. She is even trying to handle Jess Drew now, but that won't go very far.

Lockheed's pretty smart, though. Don't you think he should have figured it out?

I didn't know you were a Kitty fan

Does a mallbabe eat chili fries?

[timbox]

I didn't know you were a Kitty fan

It is well documented.

Lockheed's pretty smart, though. Don't you think he should have figured it out?


I’m still not convinced that Lockheed is even sentient. I bet popular board vegetarians such as JAU and KiplingKat would have no problem eating him.

[Havok83]

Um, none of the above

[timbox]

Um, none of the above

It's a 'yes or no' question.

[Papa Moai]

Kitty has been nothing but nice to that stupid little dragon. He betrayed her..
Kitty was nice, sure. But at the end of the day she's just Lockheed's pet human. Lockheed has to think about the well-being of his fellow dragons first, even when Kitty looks at him with her big, sad, hairless-monkey eyes.

[frog]

Lockheed is on a downward spiral. He's lost Kitty to a bullet and Brand to Beast.

I look forward to seeing him take it all out on Gyrich in an explosive drunken firebreathing bender.

[Joe Acro]

Lockheed is on a downward spiral. He's lost Kitty to a bullet and Brand to Beast.

I look forward to seeing him take it all out on Gyrich in an explosive drunken firebreathing bender.
Gyrich's an even bigger jerk than Wisdom. But at least he's not hitting on Lockheed's girl.

[Mind_Witch]

For someone as supposedly intelligent as Kitty is, it does reflect badly on her, added to the fact the way she treats him like a basic house pet.

[Filthy Mutie]

Kitty was Jamie Lee Curtis and Lockheed was Arnold Schwarzenegger. Beast is Tom Arnold.

[darknessatnoon]

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2009/10/28/kitty-pryde-and-lockheed-as-flavor-flav-and-chuck-d/

Preview from SWORD

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[darknessatnoon]

Other fun images!

Kitty for dinner!
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Stevie Hunter telling her to watch her mouth!
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Kitty doing all the work!
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[Filthy Mutie]

Kitty doing all the work!
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Is her battle-cry "oboy!" or "oy!"? I can't see this very well on this monitor.

[timbox]

"Dragon" is his best nickname. I'm glad to see that Kitty never really respected him. Maybe that helped Lockheed justify his treasonous actions.

[Kirayoshi]

If I may float a theory;

In my theory, Lockheed was an infant when he first encountered Kitty on the Brood Throneworld. As she was the first non-aggressive being he ever encounted since his hatching(the Throneworld was a tough place), Lockheed 'imprinted' her, as infants of many species do. As a result, he followed her off-planet by stowing away on the Starjammer, and travelling and all the way to Earth to be with his 'mother'.

As the years went by, Lockheed matured(his species may have a lower expected life-span, and therefore matures faster than humans), his intelligence increasing as he grew. He may be slightly telepathic or have linguistic powers similar to Doug Ramsey's, and hanging with an international team of superheroes, that's how he picked up so many languages. At some point after the fall of Excalibur, when he and Kitty were separated for a time, that's when SWORD intercepted him, essentially threatening to have him deported unless he helped them.

So yeah, he's sentient and intelligent, but he still loved Kitty, and probably felt like a large chunk of his soul was ripped out at the end of GSAXM.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Is her battle-cry "oboy!" or "oy!"? I can't see this very well on this monitor.

CC loved that "oboy" idiom.

Who was that drunk blonde in Madripoor that would go around saying, "hiccup, OBOY!"?

[Home made ectoplasm]

Kitty doing all the work!
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I wonder what Factor Three thinks of that image

[Pixie_Solanas]

I wonder what Factor Three thinks of that image

It's PAUL SMITH brilliance. Nuff said.

I love PMS.

[Joe Acro]

If I may float a theory;
We know a fair bit about Lockheed from the one Excalibur issue.

He's from a race called The Flock. They communicate telepathically and Lockheed was likely not an infant, as he was set to be married. Since he ran out on the marriage due to the Brood conflict, he was banished from his planet (likely the problem Brand is helping him with).

[darknessatnoon]

We know a fair bit about Lockheed from the one Excalibur issue.

He's from a race called The Flock. They communicate telepathically and Lockheed was likely not an infant, as he was set to be married. Since he ran out on the marriage due to the Brood conflict, he was banished from his planet (likely the problem Brand is helping him with).

Is he in love with Kitty? Was she meant to be his replacement child-bride?

[Joe Acro]

Is he in love with Kitty?I think he is. To what extent (pet-owner love, familial love, friendship love, or romantic) escapes me.

[Mind_Witch]

If I may float a theory;

In my theory, Lockheed was an infant when he first encountered Kitty on the Brood Throneworld. As she was the first non-aggressive being he ever encounted since his hatching(the Throneworld was a tough place), Lockheed 'imprinted' her, as infants of many species do. As a result, he followed her off-planet by stowing away on the Starjammer, and travelling and all the way to Earth to be with his 'mother'.

As the years went by, Lockheed matured(his species may have a lower expected life-span, and therefore matures faster than humans), his intelligence increasing as he grew. He may be slightly telepathic or have linguistic powers similar to Doug Ramsey's, and hanging with an international team of superheroes, that's how he picked up so many languages. At some point after the fall of Excalibur, when he and Kitty were separated for a time, that's when SWORD intercepted him, essentially threatening to have him deported unless he helped them.

So yeah, he's sentient and intelligent, but he still loved Kitty, and probably felt like a large chunk of his soul was ripped out at the end of GSAXM.

That sounds quite plausible.

He hasn't really taken any active action in pursuing the bullet or helping Kitty, although that can be said of the x-men also, so he should feel guilty as he has not tried his hardest to rescue her.

[darknessatnoon]

That sounds quite plausible.

He hasn't really taken any active action in pursuing the bullet or helping Kitty, although that can be said of the x-men also, so he should feel guilty as he has not tried his hardest to rescue her.

Actually, the writer of SWORD said in a recent interview that one of the back-up stories is going to explain why Lockheed has been unable to retrieve the bullet.

[Mind_Witch]

Oh, right. I was unaware of that. Hopefully it will amount to more than he couldn't be bothered.

[darknessatnoon]

Oh, right. I was unaware of that. Hopefully it will amount to more than he couldn't be bothered.

He said that SWORD and Lockheed have been trying to get her back, but have failed. There's some particular reason why. I'm assuming it's some trick to the physics of the bullet or something. Or perhaps it's reached a part of space that's diplomatically off limits to them or something. It's unclear. Wait & See!

[Mind_Witch]

Quite, but thinking and hypothesising the reason and being ultimately disappointed by the no doubt convoluted reason is more fun.

[Scavenger]

That sounds quite plausible.

He hasn't really taken any active action in pursuing the bullet or helping Kitty, although that can be said of the x-men also, so he should feel guilty as he has not tried his hardest to rescue her.

Well, he was way depressed about it in Pet Avengers, at least.

[Mind_Witch]

Well, he was way depressed about it in Pet Avengers, at least.

Yes, that is something, I suppose.

[Joe Acro]

Well, he was way depressed about it in Pet Avengers, at least.That said, that series being in continuity is dubious, at best.

[jarrod]

We know a fair bit about Lockheed from the one Excalibur issue.

He's from a race called The Flock. They communicate telepathically and Lockheed was likely not an infant, as he was set to be married. Since he ran out on the marriage due to the Brood conflict, he was banished from his planet (likely the problem Brand is helping him with).
This is basically true, though I wouldn't be so quick to discount Lockheed being young. We really don't know the maturation process for the Flock, they might be hatched as fully formed and capable of reproduction.

[darknessatnoon]

http://i38.tinypic.com/98d75w.jpg

[Havok83]

Rememebr when Kitty was forced to join the New Mutants? Not even they wanted her uppity azz

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6417/newmutants13.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/newmutants13.jpg/)

[darknessatnoon]

Rememebr when Kitty was forced to join the New Mutants? Not even they wanted her uppity azz

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6417/newmutants13.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/newmutants13.jpg/)

Whatever. They stole her costume. They were happy to look like a big bowl of macaroni and cheese together. Diva bitches need to stand out.

[pryde15]

http://i38.tinypic.com/98d75w.jpg

I hate that dragon, he is a disgrace.

[psycwave]

Now that she is coming back to Utopia, do they have an even bigger mark on their heads?

[fod_xp]

http://pressthebuttons.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452033569e20120a52a42e2970b-800wi
I don't know about you guys, but I can't glance at an innocent picture of Kitty & Lockheed now without feeling like Lockheed is making Kitty look like a complete idiot.

And it's not just scenes in which the author knows that Lockheed is playing Kitty for a fool.

http://www.just-marvel-x-men.com/image-files/astonishing-x-men-shadowcat-lockheed-1.jpg

It feels like it's retroactively tainting every interaction they had in the past.

It's not as if Kitty wasn't played for creepy laughs in the past, such as this scene where evil Nightcrawler feels her up

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_aowVcPi3Wls/R5hOnIo03qI/AAAAAAAAADw/D4aisQmlCPo/s400/evilkurt.jpg

or her entire "straight man" to Pete Wisdom's wild and wacky guy (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8134/216319-191950-pete-wisdom_super.jpg).

It's not even as if the Bamfs didn't constantly make her appear ridiculous.

http://pics.livejournal.com/uadlika/pic/0007sapa

But what Kitty had with Lockheed always struck me as pure. The Girl & her Dragon was the equivalent to the cherished American dream of the Boy & his dog. Rarely, does the dog speak more languages than you and spends 30 years spying on you and your friends for information.

Do you feel that Joss Whedon desecrated Kitty Pryde?

Joss Whedon. Shitting in your cornflakes and crushing your childhood.

[pryde15]

Now that she is coming back to Utopia, do they have an even bigger mark on their heads?

I atleast hope you used my checklist to find all these threads, to troll me.

[Dani Justice]

Hisako looks like a stoned Japanese woman.

O MANN i literally choked on own spit when i LOLd, thats a first. and i never really literally L.O.L.


Rememebr when Kitty was forced to join the New Mutants? Not even they wanted her uppity azz

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6417/newmutants13.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/newmutants13.jpg/)

aw that pic kinda makes me feel sorry for her. whos the blonde chick though back there?

[pryde15]

aw that pic kinda makes me feel sorry for her. whos the blonde chick though back there?

That would be Magma.

[darknessatnoon]

Lockheed is the co-star of the latest issue of Spider-Man & The Secret War. It's a team-up with Spidey and Thing. It's about how Lockheed spent most of the Secret War defending Denver.

[coveredinbees]

Poor Kitty! All that arm skin wasted!
http://i45.tinypic.com/23rw9zd.jpg