ugh. what happened to the goth scene?

[Count Vertigo]

i went to a goth night at a local club here and i was shocked at how many S&M pervs, wanna-be vampires and emo kids were there. WTF is this crap? it wasnt this bad when I moved to upstate ny 3 yrs ago. I come back I see this!

and what is up this gothic metal being segued with Sisters of Mercy or the like?!

[DeadXMan]

Hot Topic


here let Foamy explan it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXRxzh22oAg

[pariah-1972]

i went to a goth night at a local club here and i was shocked at how many S&M pervs, wanna-be vampires and emo kids were there. WTF is this crap? it wasnt this bad when I moved to upstate ny 3 yrs ago. I come back I see this!

and what is up this gothic metal being segued with Sisters of Mercy or the like?!I haven't been to a goth club in ages but this doesn't surprise me at all since most people i have met can't differentiate nu metal from goth rock and there hasn't been much of a scene since goth petered out in the 90's so you basically get all kinds.

Hell i typed in Goth one day at TMZ and the only thing i got was Marlyin Manson and Alice Cooper.


I'm sure england is a little bit better since that's where it began anyways.

[Filthy Mutie]

Goth, as I remember it, hasn't been goth in at least a decade. Everyone got older, got families, the music plateaued off, and the younger interpretation filled the vacuum. There's a club or two in Boston that still has certain nights that are goth, but mixed with a darkwave and mod influence.

[G. Wayne]

The subculture expanded and alternately got watered down at the same time since the "old" days. Now you have Gothic Industrial, Gothic Punk, Gothic Rock, Gothic Metal, Gothic Lolita, some Emo offshoots, the WoD/Vampire crowd, etc, etc.

While you have Hot Topic these days, during the handful of times I went to Club Laga in Pittsburgh, the S&M types were just as numerous as everyone else, and that was, geez, 10 years ago?

[Shellhead]

Goth, as I remember it, hasn't been goth in at least a decade. Everyone got older, got families, the music plateaued off, and the younger interpretation filled the vacuum. There's a club or two in Boston that still has certain nights that are goth, but mixed with a darkwave and mod influence.

Heh, one of my friends was living in Boston for a while, and got turned away at the velvet rope the first time he went to one of those goth clubs.

His sin: wearing brown shoes with his black clothes. Nobody ever told him before!

We have a pretty good goth club here, Ground Zero. There is a bondage sideshow, but it's easy to ignore by just staying on the ground floor. They had one bad DJ for a while, but generally the music is good, including a mixture of goth, industrial, punk, darkwave, electro, trip hop, grunge and alternative rock.

Actually, I haven't been there in a couple of years. Busy with real life stuff. But I am going there for Halloween this year, so that should be a real freak show.

[Filthy Mutie]

Heh, one of my friends was living in Boston for a while, and got turned away at the velvet rope the first time he went to one of those goth clubs.

His sin: wearing brown shoes with his black clothes. Nobody ever told him before!


I'm curious where this happened. Not that I disagree. :tongue: But, seriously, that kind of behavior is more typical of mainstream-ish clubs here. At the more dark and alternative recesses of Boston, the doormen don't care, but it's the patronage that will stonewall you. Ha! Hipsters are funny.

[Shellhead]

I'm curious where this happened. Not that I disagree. :tongue: But, seriously, that kind of behavior is more typical of mainstream-ish clubs here. At the more dark and alternative recesses of Boston, the doormen don't care, but it's the patronage that will stonewall you. Ha! Hipsters are funny.

It happened at ManRay, maybe in 2004 or 2005.