New Mutants #6 Thread, Review, Spoilers and around the world and back snap!

[Talisman]

As seen from the preview last week, we have Xavier trying to assert his parental rights towards Legion after being a deadbeat dad his whole life but is denied by the new Nanny, Danger, he then he goes and sees the kids who aren't mad at him, the New Muties. He gets all fondl-y with the girls, he and Shan swap dirty stories about fantasies with Kitty in their minds, Doug goes in to join the meet and greet, but is overcome by his programming. I think Sage has a hand in Selene's plot, what with seeing all the 1's and 0's when he's "reading" the others body language. Bobby wants to show Amara his talents, but is shot down, but it seems she's just playing a game of making him want her all the more. In her room, Amara gets taken for a sucka, and is taken out quite easily. Sam decides to get a jet pack because he's tired of being called rocketass. Karma tries to possess him, but gets binary-ed herself and Doug makes the rest look like rank amateurs but then Karma shows how truly bad ass she is, and takes possession of the entire team and kick his ass to the curb. Then ta-da! Warlocks back, holding his butt buddy, a beaten up Doug, caressing him gently, Dougie takes advantage and wants to put it in a new place in Lock, but he's playing hard to get, so Doug rips his head off after releasing all over his face.

I LOVED IT. This book just seems to be getting better and better. I can't wait for next issue. Wells is firing on all cylinders, and Neves art has never been better on this title. Idk if if's a different inker he needed or what, but I'm loving whatever it is he's done to change and make this book a stone-groove winner.

[Leirus]

Wait, what?

[AcesX1X]

are you saying that warlock is dead?

[Talisman]

are you saying that warlock is dead?

Don't know, but that is how it appears for now.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Some people are going to hate this review but I liked it. Well done Dagger.

Look forward to reading this.

[quillero]

I loved the Warlock development. Hope it sticks.

I want Amara to make it and then do Bobby. The Doug-speak is a pretty clever storytelling device.

Enjoying Necrosha and kinda excited with the Magik subplot. Good book.

[Leirus]

Some people are going to hate this review but I liked it. Well done Dagger.

Look forward to reading this.

Dagger? Whut? I do not understand !

[AcesX1X]

i really like this review too.

Sam decides to get a jet pack because he's tired of being called rocketass.


can you clarify this statement?

[Talisman]

Some people are going to hate this review but I liked it. Well done Dagger.

Look forward to reading this.
Thank you!
Dagger? Whut? I do not understand !
That was my alias before I switched it up to Talisman.
i really like this review too.
Thanks!
can you clarify this statement?
It's not really clear in the art. He doesn't have one, but in one panel it looks like he puts on a jetpack. I don't know if it's a jacket or what, so I said jetpack.

[Home made ectoplasm]

can you clarify this statement?

This is the statement I want clarified:

Doug rips his head off after releasing all over his face

But yeah seriously (although this sounds like a backhanded compliment, it isn't) I prefer reviews that obfuscate rather than ones that spell everything out which mean the time I get the issue I feel like I've already read it.

[Leirus]

Thank you!

That was my alias before I switched it up to Talisman.

It's not really clear in the art. He doesn't have one, but in one panel it looks like he puts on a jetpack. I don't know if it's a jacket or what, so I said jetpack.

You are Dagger ! I did not know that...
So, I take it the weird armor thing in Sam is back...

[Talisman]

You are Dagger ! I did not know that...
So, I take it the weird armor thing in Sam is back...
Yup, that's me.

I don't know. I didn't know he had a weird armor.


LOL@ MartinRedmond being the only no so far.

[yanapryde]

Uh...wrong.
Okay so YES this issue IS sensational.

Skipping ahead past what we saw in the preview pages, the team retires to a wreck room of sorts for some popcorn and movies, however Amara is eager to ditch her uni, which Sunspot eagerly offers his assistance to achieve. Sam chastizes him for his behavior like the big brother type that he is. Amara, we learn, is less irritated than she puts off when behind closed doors. Her privacy is interrupted by Mr.Ramsey cleverly tricking her into believing he is injured, rather than to eliminate her at Selene's behest.

After severely beating Ms. Aquilla with a pipe he casually explains that he is here with a message, to the New Mutants.
They immediately jump into hero-mode and take him on, however with his newly enhanced language reading abilities, he easily thwarts them.
Xi'an saves the day, possessing her teammates and thus making them "unreadable" by Doug's power.

Warlock makes contact with Doug earlier while Doug is infiltrating Utopia, telling him he's going to come help him, probably to "deprogram" him, fully aware that something is wrong.
After Doug is taken out by his newly possessed (Xi'an) former cohorts, Warlock shows up questioning their motives for hurting Doug, to which Doug repays poor Warlock with a nasty beheading...

[Talisman]

Uh...wrong.
Okay so YES this issue IS sensational.

Skipping ahead past what we saw in the preview pages, the team retires to a wreck room of sorts for some popcorn and movies, however Amara is eager to ditch her uni, which Sunspot eagerly offers his assistance to achieve. Sam chastizes him for his behavior like the big brother type that he is. Amara, we learn, is less irritated than she puts off when behind closed doors. Her privacy is interrupted by Mr.Ramsey cleverly tricking her into believing he is injured, rather than to eliminate her at Selene's behest.

After severely beating Ms. Aquilla with a pipe he casually explains that he is here with a message, to the New Mutants.
They immediately jump into hero-mode and take him on, however with his newly enhanced language reading abilities, he easily thwarts them.
Xi'an saves the day, possessing her teammates and thus making them "unreadable" by Doug's power.

Warlock makes contact with Doug earlier while Doug is infiltrating Utopia, telling him he's going to come help him, probably to "deprogram" him, fully aware that something is wrong.
After Doug is taken out by his newly possessed (Xi'an) former cohorts, Warlock shows up questioning their motives for hurting Doug, to which Doug repays poor Warlock with a nasty beheading...
Which is what I said, in a rather obtuse way.

[yanapryde]

Which is what I said, in a rather obtuse way.

True. My apologies. You are the Sex.
And can we PLEASE get some answers for this ARMOR business that Sam continues to inexplicably sport in combat??? What is going on with that???

[Anna]

I hope warlock can stick his head back on.

[Talisman]

True. My apologies. You are the Sex.
And can we PLEASE get some answers for this ARMOR business that Sam continues to inexplicably sport in combat??? What is going on with that???
I think I need to re-read the back issues of this book, because I don't remember him sporting armor before this issue.

[AcesX1X]

magma got hate-crimed?? :confused: :confused:

....is she dead?

[MartinRedmond]

This book isn't for me. I tried it out because it seemed like it was a refreshing change of pace. Was highly disapointed at how predictable it was. The ending did gave me a chuckle. It reminded me of playing Dungeons & Dragons when I was a late teen, only less fun. I reccomend it for 16 year olds, along with old issues of Spawn.

[yanapryde]

I think I need to re-read the back issues of this book, because I don't remember him sporting armor before this issue.

yes. he had it for all of 2 seconds on ....2 pages with about...3 panels....in the final issue of their battle with Legion.

[Talisman]

magma got hate-crimed?? :confused: :confused:

....is she dead?

Don't think so as she's on the cover for issue #8.

[AcesX1X]

Don't think so as she's on the cover for issue #8.

maybe she is a zombie on issue 8? i have my fingers crossed for her.

[quillero]

Don't think so as she's on the cover for issue #8.

And in a romantic subplot

[Ryan W]

Sounds great! Can't wait to get it Friday!

[Filthy Mutie]

Warlock being beheaded is a problem and cliffhanger? I mean, he's all techno-organic...

[Talisman]

Warlock being beheaded is a problem and cliffhanger? I mean, he's all techno-organic...
Doug doesn't understand that no means no.

[Filthy Mutie]

Doug doesn't understand that no means no.

Oh! So it's more to do with Doug being a sex offender than Warlock being mortally wounded. I understand now.

[The Black Guardian]

Sam's armor is likely an unstable molecule thing with his costume.

To be blunt, if Warlock is truly dead, then this might be my last issue.

[Hi-Fi]

This issue was brilliant.

I loved:

1) The art.
2) Doug's reading of everyone's words.
3) Professor Xavier.
4) Amara wanting some brazilian sauce.
5) Karma using her powers like that.
6) Warlock's super sad moment.

I was really surprised by how much I liked the last issue but this one tops it.

[Leirus]

This issue was brilliant.

I loved:

1) The art.
2) Doug's reading of everyone's words.
3) Professor Xavier.
4) Amara wanting some brazilian sauce.
5) Karma using her powers like that.
6) Warlock's super sad moment.

I was really surprised by how much I liked the last issue but this one tops it.

Well, Amara is brazilian, sort of, she is just homesick...

But obviously Warlock is not dead, isnt it? That would be stupid...

[Rubicant]

Well, Amara is brazilian, sort of, she is just homesick...

But obviously Warlock is not dead, isnt it? That would be stupid...

If I remember correctly, technarchy have an undifferentiated physical structure and no distinct organs. Beheading probably wouldn't affect them for long, but would most likely be disorienting. Magus certainly didn't like having part of himself cut off by one of Magik's stepping discs. They can re-create themselves as long as a fraction of them still remains and hasn't been drained of lifeglow.

[worstblogever]

Don't know, but that is how it appears for now.

Don't worry...

I hope warlock can stick his head back on.

He can. At least, he should be able to. Douglock got decapitated in the issues leading up to Excalibur (vol. 1) #100 and ended up being okay. Warlock should be alright after this.


Now, I totally dug Karma's strategy for taking on Doug Ramsey. But more so...

F***ING DOUG RAMSEY! WOW. Whatever this T/O thing is, it's given Doug a crazy upgrade. He's is downright scary now.


Still loving this series. Zeb Wells is knocking this outta the park, and Neves art is great.

[RoguishGurl]

This was definitely the best issue so far. I loved how Doug used his powers. It was simply great.

[Talisman]

This was definitely the best issue so far. I loved how Doug used his powers. It was simply great.
Love your avatar, RG. It's so Lost Boys.

[infernohara]

I never thought I could love Doug so mch. He was amazing in this issue.

One thing I didn't understand though. Doug specifically went after Amara (who has been a thorn in Selene's side I guess), but in Necrosha one shot he says that the Queen left her on. Kinda confused me as Selene herself said she was the last one on in the beginning of the one shot. Anyone got this or am I just on to much of the sauce?

[RoguishGurl]

Love your avatar, RG. It's so Lost Boys.
Thanks! It's like Crain made that poster specifically for me by having Laura and Warren in that pose
I never thought I could love Doug so mch. He was amazing in this issue.

One thing I didn't understand though. Doug specifically went after Amara (who has been a thorn in Selene's side I guess), but in Necrosha one shot he says that the Queen left her on. Kinda confused me as Selene herself said she was the last one on in the beginning of the one shot. Anyone got this or am I just on to much of the sauce?
The Necrosha one shot happened before this issue I think. So that explains why Doug attacked her in this issue. I think that answers your question.

[coveredinbees]

I hope Magma's okay. Sometimes she's my favorite. Prof. X was great. I hope Warlcok's not dead, too. Shan was awesome.

[worstblogever]

I hope Magma's okay. Sometimes she's my favorite. Prof. X was great. I hope Warlcok's not dead, too. Shan was awesome.

I think, based off this, she'll be fine.

http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/dec09/81_new_mutants_8.jpg

[coveredinbees]

So much blood...

[worstblogever]

So much blood...

I think that's supposed to be lava.

[coveredinbees]

Blood goes on the inside, Magma...

[CyberCoyote]

Warlock should be fine. I like him a lot but he's SO powerful compared to most of the.. well.. planet :) Let's not forget who took on Ultron in Conquest! That cover for next issue is probably the last thing Doug'll see before he's dead again. Too bad it took until NOW to make him so cool on his own without bonding with Warlock.

[Puunk]

Awesome review Talisman, although I'm really depressed with what happened with Warlock.

I love Zeb Wells, but I'm annoyed with him now.

[Puunk]

Don't worry...



He can. At least, he should be able to. Douglock got decapitated in the issues leading up to Excalibur (vol. 1) #100 and ended up being okay. Warlock should be alright after this.


Now, I totally dug Karma's strategy for taking on Doug Ramsey. But more so...

F***ING DOUG RAMSEY! WOW. Whatever this T/O thing is, it's given Doug a crazy upgrade. He's is downright scary now.


Still loving this series. Zeb Wells is knocking this outta the park, and Neves art is great.

Yes! I hope he's alright.

One thing, why are they acting lie they haven't seen the Professor in ages? I found the "is he taller?" and "no, your probably thinking of him in his chair" exhange kind of off-putting.

[Leirus]

I think, based off this, she'll be fine.

http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/dec09/81_new_mutants_8.jpg

Fine and extremly pissed off

[worstblogever]

Fine and extremly pissed off

Selene does have that effect on her.

[Imraith Nimphais]

Awesome review Talisman, although I'm really depressed with what happened with Warlock.

I love Zeb Wells, but I'm annoyed with him now.

Have you read it already, PuunK? If so, wot about the art...Who are the artists credited with the inking? Or Is it done entirely by Neves himself? The art on prev pages does look different ie. much better than the earlier issues.

[Leirus]

Selene does have that effect on her.

She is that kind of old relative that asks you if you have a girlfriend and then proceeds to eviscerate you...

[coveredinbees]

Magma needs to learn some respect and anger managing.

[Puunk]

Have you read it already, PuunK? If so, wot about the art...Who are the artists credited with the inking? Or Is it done entirely by Neves himself? The art on prev pages does look different ie. much better than the earlier issues.

Ed Tadeo is inker, John Rauch is colorist, and art is Neves.

Really? For me, the art's rather distracting in quite a few places IMO and I liked the older art!

[Puunk]

The only reason I say the art's distracting is that there are some really really nice moments, and the occaisional flub so it stands out.

[Imraith Nimphais]

Thanx Punnk, you are a peach...mmmmm...I will have to read and compare on Friday...I thought the inking in the earlier issues were less than stellar...sort of messy...the prev pages for 6 looked more clean...oh well.

[Puunk]

Thanx Punnk, you are a peach...mmmmm...I will have to read and compare on Friday...I thought the inking in the earlier issues were less than stellar...sort of messy...the prev pages for 6 looked more clean...oh well.

Thanks, and Doug is really aweosme.

If you love Warlock, you will feel for him here! :biggrin:

[XaviersMisprint]

I am so upset that Magma got the beatdown! But I am sure she will grow from it.

I did not hate Doug at all this issue. Crazy.


Karma was WONDERFUL! I liked the plot with her possessing the New Mutants and throwing off Doug's ability to read their movements.

Oh and hey Warlock.

[NielsVanEekelen]

Being beheaded won't do Warlock much harm--being infected with malicious code by his self/soulfriend, for whom he'd drop all his firewalls on the other hand, could keep him out of the action for a while. And prevent him from snapping his fingers and making every T-O creature on Earth roll over, ending the story then and there. :wink:

[Talisman]

I am so upset that Magma got the beatdown! But I am sure she will grow from it.

I did not hate Doug at all this issue. Crazy.


Karma was WONDERFUL! I liked the plot with her possessing the New Mutants and throwing off Doug's ability to read their movements.

Oh and hey Warlock.
Karma was effing ACES! in this issue. I usually wait til Friday to get my books, but I had to run out and get mine today because I'm so excited to see the returned Hellions that I can almost taste it.

[Prodigy55]

As long as Cypher loses this body-language nonsense, I will support his return and continued life.

[Talisman]

As long as Cypher loses this body-language nonsense, I will support his return and continued life.
Just depends on what they do with it after he's denecroized. I do really hope that the characters can't die for sometime after this event is over with. I really hope to see Pyro begin his bromance with Avalanche again after it's all done.

[CyberCoyote]

Being beheaded won't do Warlock much harm--being infected with malicious code by his self/soulfriend, for whom he'd drop all his firewalls on the other hand, could keep him out of the action for a while. And prevent him from snapping his fingers and making every T-O creature on Earth roll over, ending the story then and there. :wink:

Yeah, Warlock could end this like he handled Ultron's little run in Conquest.. hopefully it's not that easy or telegraphed. I won't be too upset if it ends with him finally giving up all his life glow to bring Doug back to life for real. And I think the Body Language stuff is pretty kick butt myself.

[MasterOdin]

I know it won't happen, but I hope that Wells actually kills either or both Magma and Warlock. I love both characters, but if there are never any consequences then what is the point? There is no way Magma should not be dead given Doug had her alone in her room.

[Prodigy55]

If she becomes magma, it's not like he can punch her.

[Hakael]

I know it won't happen, but I hope that Wells actually kills either or both Magma and Warlock. I love both characters, but if there are never any consequences then what is the point? There is no way Magma should not be dead given Doug had her alone in her room.

Unless part of Doug is still holding back, of course.

[MasterOdin]

Unless part of Doug is still holding back, of course.

True. I am not saying that every time characters should die when an "event" takes place, but it would be a shock if she was dead.

[CmX]

The art was really great this issue!

I hope that Doug rejoins the team at the end of Necrosha. This issue was great, a very quick read but mainly because it was mostly an action issue but the story was decent.

I liked Doug deciphering what everyone was really saying.

Poor Warlock! :/

[S'Cipio_66]

Being beheaded won't do Warlock much harm--being infected with malicious code by his self/soulfriend, for whom he'd drop all his firewalls on the other hand, could keep him out of the action for a while.

This is what I was thinking. Less worried about the beheading, more worried about the virus.

Warlock's last thoughts were "This could end me" and "I don't want to die."

(Or at least, that is how Doug read it.)

-S'Cipio

[Firebaton]

I really enjoyed this issue. I love that Shan got some good panel time and that she can be effective against Doug.
I can't wait for next issue and more on the Yana sublot.
But yeah what is up with Sam's outfit?

[CmX]

I really enjoyed this issue. I love that Shan got some good panel time and that she can be effective against Doug.
I can't wait for next issue and more on the Yana sublot.
But yeah what is up with Sam's outfit?

The artist or was it the writer? Said that their costumes would be changing gradually.

[timbox]

This was my favorite issue of New Mutants so far. I was disappointed that Magma was taken out so easily but it worked out because it allowed Karma to finally shine. Possessing her team was a great move and it made me extremely happy.

Cypher and Warlock flirting with each other in machine code was pretty cute too, but I was pleased when Cypher pulled off Warlock’s head.

[Leirus]

True. I am not saying that every time characters should die when an "event" takes place, but it would be a shock if she was dead.

I seem to remember that, pretty much like Bobby can not die if he is in contact with humidity, Magma is really hard to kill if she is touching the earth, as it restores her...

[XaviersMisprint]

This was my favorite issue of New Mutants so far. I was disappointed that Magma was taken out so easily but it worked out because it allowed Karma to finally shine. Possessing her team was a great move and it made me extremely happy.

Cypher and Warlock flirting with each other in machine code was pretty cute too, but I was pleased when Cypher pulled off Warlock’s head.

Yeah, I'm upset that Magma was the sacrificial lamb, but if that is necessary to boost Karma to AWESOME levels then so be it. Magma will still be around!

[Talisman]

I hope Magma will be around. I just hope Zeb takes the time to give her some personality.

[coconutphone]

This issue was brilliant.

I loved:

1) The art.
2) Doug's reading of everyone's words.
3) Professor Xavier.
4) Amara wanting some brazilian sauce.
5) Karma using her powers like that.
6) Warlock's super sad moment.

I was really surprised by how much I liked the last issue but this one tops it.


I agree. I like the love/hate thing going on with Amaara and Bobby. Sam chastizing him over his flirting was cute.

I LOVED poor Warlock :frown: When he contacted Doug he was sad and confused and then he angrily asked the others what they were doing attacking him only to be attacked by Doug. Sad. I'm sure he'll be able to repair himself just fine. I think it was more to show the others that this is NOT the nice Doug they remember. If beating Amara wasn't clear enough ripping off the head of his closest friend sends clear picture.

The body language reading was stellar as was Shan's way of getting around it. Clever. I also appreciated the brief explanation why Xavier isn't with David and his sweet reunion with the NM.

[Talisman]

I really liked how the kids weren't assholes to Xavier, as is the current theme for his former students to talk to him. Scott's really crossed the line with some of his bullshit. I hope to see many happy moments between the NM and Xavier.

[The Lucky One]

Unless part of Doug is still holding back, of course.

I read it more as Selene ordering him to teach Magma a lesson. Selene's the kind of villain who really wants to administer the killing stroke herself. I interpreted the scene more as Selene ordering Doug to badly beat Magma, both to send a message to the New Mutants and to remind Amara who is mistress. She probably plans to finish the job personally later.

-D

[NielsVanEekelen]

I really liked how the kids weren't assholes to Xavier, as is the current theme for his former students to talk to him. Scott's really crossed the line with some of his bullshit. I hope to see many happy moments between the NM and Xavier.

Agreed. I'm fine with Charles being imperfect, but I think he's been demonized too much, and I'm glad some people at least still appreciate him.

[Victorious]

Great issue. I like what Wells has done with Doug. He is crazy and made a really good villain. Love his expression before he kill Warlock, he does not like what he is doing but he must obey. I think that the whole 1s and 0s has something to do with being infected the TO, since now he is part “computer”. Hope that after Necrosha is over, he is freed fro the TO and back to the language reading without the binary language around.

Warlock would be fine. He can change his form at will, how can he be dead without a head. Maybe Doug infect him with something that leave him inert, and then cut his head in order to leave him incapacitated for the crossover. But once Doug is back on the good side (which he better be) he will reprogram Warlock back.

I agree Amara was taken down too easily. But it makes sense that if and old dead friend of yours appear from nowhere in your room, you will trust him, and Doug take advantage of that after reading her emotions. Hopefully she will recover soon enough to be part of the crossover. I need some Magma action!
Also, I love how Wells is writing Amara with this kind of dark-side she always had. First Magik telling her she enjoy Manuel’s blindness because it makes him vulnerable and needy. And then she calling Berto stupid and almost cruelly playing with him. First she look mad at him and then she leaving the room smiling and calling him stupid. Seems she is kind of mean with men.

I’m not a fan of Berto and Amara. Wells seem to try to show us that Amara really likes Berto or she just like having him around her flirting with her. I personally like more the Manuel and Amara couple. Wells hinted in the first issue that Amara still has feeling for him. Hopefully this will be the case. Berto needs to start flirting with Magik if anyone.

Love how Shan is shown to be a badass. Possessing everyone in order to confuse Doug was great. And also love Dani hugging Sam and being all protective with him.

And again. Curious about Sam’s armor and Illyana’s agenda.

The art I’m not really enjoying. It felt rush to me. I think that the tittle would benefit a lot with a different artist.


Fine and extremly pissed off

Yesss, I looove pissed off Amara! But not at Doug!

[The Lucky One]

Berto needs to start flirting with Magik if anyone.

I'm guessing he would, except no one knows exactly how old she is at this point. A DaCosta does not get brought up on statutory rape charges.

We never found out exactly what the Muties had on the DVR, but anyone wanna bet it's at least half filled with old "Magnum, P.I." episodes?

-D

[Talisman]

I'm guessing he would, except no one knows exactly how old she is at this point. A DaCosta does not get brought up on statutory rape charges.

We never found out exactly what the Muties had on the DVR, but anyone wanna bet it's at least half filled with old "Magnum, P.I." episodes?

-D

OMG! That would be too funny!

[FemGeek]

Another good issue, so far I've been pretty happy with how its going. I liked the scene with Prof X, it was really nice. And Shan had a sweet moment of badassery. I like Dougs body language reading thing, very interesting. Only thing I didt really like was how Warlock was drawn (poor 'Lock! He'll be grand), but I guess I could get used to it. And how much blood does Amara have, lol? I can just put that down to artistic license. Great issue!

[Jeremy!]

Karma was badass!

[Optic Rage!]

LOL @ Martinredmond being the only no vote.

How embarrassing.

[Archer]

First thoughts without reading the rest of the thread - I LOVED it. (It probably helps that I recently re-read the issues surrounding Doug's death, without thinking about Necrosha.)

I haven't much enjoyed the previous issues of New Mutants, as it seemed like fairly mindless stuff in which the characters might as well have been anybody - BUT this had a great feel for their personalities, for everything they've been through.

The touch of Doug narrating by reading body language was absolutely brilliant. I love the pathos of him understanding his friends so perfectly not because he's been growing up with them for years, but because his powers have been amped up and screwed with.

In a small amount of face time Xavier was more interestingly characterised than he has been in years, with his doubts about his ability and whether or not he's done good clear to Doug but totally opaque to everyone else. The line about "let's walk and talk"/"the use of my legs is precious" (from memory, not a direct quote) spoke volumes.

I could go on and on and on about how (in a roundabout way) Xavier failed the New Mutants by placing them in Magneto's care, when Magneto was simply not able to cope with it, and how Doug was the one who suffered as a result . . . thus making it totally perfect that Doug was the one to watch Xavier and the others from the outside (quite literally) and see through all their defenses.

A great job was done of conveying how deep the friendship is between the New Mutants, given everything they've been through. The move from "wtf, that's Doug!" to "he hurt Amara, therefore we don't give a damn WHO he is" was completely believable. Warlock's arrival was another great moment.

As comparison to a recent issue . . . Sam and Dani arguing and talking and having an artificial fight about what great friends they've been is contrived and IMO boring. On the other hand, people amazed that Doug is back -> horrified that he has hurt Amara -> Shan getting everyone working together to soundly defeat him -> another old friend, Warlock, taking sides -> the NM explaining the situation rather than engaging in a pointless superhero-misunderstanding-fight . . . that's what conveys they're old friends who've been through such a huge amount together.

Warlock's body language saying "I don't want to die" while Doug pulled him apart is an image that will stick with me for a long time, especially in the context of poor Warlock being so unable to comprehend his soulfriend's death way back when.

Doug's death is by far my "favourite" in any X-Men comic (probably any Marvel comic at all). I can't think of any other that had such an effect on me as a reader and cast such a shadow over the survivors. So I'd been very nervous about him being brought back. But (and this is probably in part down to my initial enthusiasm, I dunno how I'll feel six issues from now) it's also probably my favourite resurrection. It's not been played as a publicity move with everyone suddenly happily-ever-after. It's been played as a continuation of Doug's tragedy, and a means to show insight into the people who knew him best.

I'd love him to have some interaction with Magneto during this crossover - Magneto's breakdown after finding out Doug had died was (IMO) a defining moment for the character - but it would have been out of place in this issue, so I didn't miss it.

My only small gripe was that Doug was a skinny kid when he died. His friends have been out in the world and growing older, so he should have appeared a lot younger and physically less imposing than them. But it's a small gripe (and it might be explained down the line anyway). Haven't enjoyed a comic this much in a long time, from structure, to atmosphere, to the story, to the characterisations . . . awesome.

[jeandarolt]

I never liked Scott, neither the bad one. Nice or bad he ever seems to be a boring char...
it would be cool if he gets crazy and becomes a really bad guy, like a villain :evilsmile:

[Filthy Mutie]

So, I just read this. Over all, I felt it was pretty good. I like the book, but there's something that isn't quite clicking for me to take it up a level. I'm not sure if it's been the art so far (which doesn't really appeal to me), or if it's because there are a few shining stars--usually the guest in the book (Legion, Doug, Warlock, Magik[?], Xavier), and a bunch of other characters that bore me. I didn't really look into the New Mutants until well after their heyday--maybe there's a sense of wonder through nostalgia that's being lost.

I was pleased to see Warlock rendered way better than he was last issue, and also in maybe the best I've seen him in a very, very long time. (The big glassy eyes were a nice touch.) When the whole translation bit was starting to get tired, Warlock's hailing saved my brain. I'm sure he's not dead, but I guess Wolverine was too busy to get beat-up and make Doug look like a badass.

I'm still staying tuned. I'm pretty excited about Necrosha.

[Optic Rage!]

I never liked Scott, neither the bad one. Nice or bad he ever seems to be a boring char...
it would be cool if he gets crazy and becomes a really bad guy, like a villain :evilsmile:

**scratches head**

Was Cyclops even in this issue?

[XaviersMisprint]

I love these poll results. I've never seen anything with results as dramatic as these!

[Arachne]

I loved this issue. I think it's my favourite of the series so far. Great character moments for everybody, and Doug comes off as a true threat.


Also, I love how Wells is writing Amara with this kind of dark-side she always had. First Magik telling her she enjoy Manuel’s blindness because it makes him vulnerable and needy. And then she calling Berto stupid and almost cruelly playing with him. First she look mad at him and then she leaving the room smiling and calling him stupid. Seems she is kind of mean with men.

I’m not a fan of Berto and Amara.

That's funny, I had a completely different take on that scene from everyone else. I thought Amara was smiling because Sam noticed what was going on and intervened. Maybe it's because I'm not a fan of a Berto/Amara relationship, either.

[Shadowkurt]

And don't forget it was Sam who used to have a big crush on her, way back when.

As for the Professor: he was in the wheelchair form Planet X until House of M, when he vanished. He returned at the end of Deadly Genesis, then almost immediately set off to space for RAFOTSE. None of the NMs was involved in the Extremists, and most of them were not involved in MC, after which he vanished again, returning only in Utopia. So I think that most of them (Sam excepted) have not seen him since before M-Day, which has been some time now.

Wells is obviously aiming to get the Big Nine together again, so we can be sure that Magma, Doug and Warlock will all be part of the team after Necrosha (and Rahne presumably after Second Coming). I hope Doug retains his body language reading - though he can lose the binary code. Shan possessing her teammates and having them attack Doug in a completely random way was a masterful use of her powers - both by Mr. Wells and by Ms. Manh.

And yes, Illyana: "You are of no use to me" and "I need you all alive for future purposes". Doug is presumably the only one to realize how cold and emotionally unattached towards them all she really is. Which means that I now want DougYana more than ever.

[The Lucky One]

And yes, Illyana: "You are of no use to me" and "I need you all alive for future purposes". Doug is presumably the only one to realize how cold and emotionally unattached towards them all she really is. Which means that I now want DougYana more than ever.

Well, if he stays all techno-organically remote even after it's all over, I guess they could become sex buddies. :wink:

"I do not care about you at all, your only use is your body."
<0I1do0not1care0about1you0at1all,0your1only0use1is0 your1body0.>

-D

[Kasper Cole]

Man this issue was something else...

The stuff with Xavier kinda made him seem needy at first IMO. I really dug how Ramsey was analzying and translating their body language. Warlocks "death" had more emotion and impact than anything I've read in an X-Book all year.

[Charybdis4]

Fantastic issue - this is beginning to turn into my favourtie X-book.

Nice to see Charles not being treated as the usual "whipping boy" which appears to be his role in the rest of the x franchise.

Shan was awesome & Doug is now scary.

And next issue - HELLIONS!!!!

Fabulous.

[MaxGoof]

This was an interesting issue, but I don't know if I like that suddenly Doug Ramsey has become Cassandra Cain Batgirl. He didn't have the ability to read body language and respond accordingly in combat when he died, so why would he have it now? I guess it makes Doug "cooler", but I was always fine with him as the nerdy loser who just was good with languages. Not everyone needs to have amazing untapped potential, IMO.

Oh, and the New Mutants looking shocked as if 'Lock were dead at the end was just silly. Warlock can separate and attach parts of himself at will, and is an omega-level shapeshifter. To think that he'd be killed by having his head ripped off is ridiculous.

[worstblogever]

Someone said "omega level". Notify JAU.

[We R. Venom]

Grr,i'm still on #5. Cant wait to get it...somehow.

[Filthy Mutie]

Someone said "omega level". Notify JAU.

The call has been made.

[Kasper Cole]

This was an interesting issue, but I don't know if I like that suddenly Doug Ramsey has become Cassandra Cain Batgirl. He didn't have the ability to read body language and respond accordingly in combat when he died, so why would he have it now? I guess it makes Doug "cooler", but I was always fine with him as the nerdy loser who just was good with languages. Not everyone needs to have amazing untapped potential, IMO.

Oh, and the New Mutants looking shocked as if 'Lock were dead at the end was just silly. Warlock can separate and attach parts of himself at will, and is an omega-level shapeshifter. To think that he'd be killed by having his head ripped off is ridiculous.

Should probably be chalked up to a villain tapping into a hero's untapped potential. Must be kept in mind that The New Mutants were kids who were still learning, it definitely fits in with his power set though.

[AcesX1X]

i can't wait until doug taps into his babelfish aura and breaks the language barrier for everyone!

[Fatguy]

LOVED. I thought this issue was great, Wells made me feel really, really bad for Warlock. I demand Doug be kilt now. Also, great use of Karma's powers! The whole issue was just an excellent read.

Still wearing boring costumes though.

[Home made ectoplasm]

It's true though, Warlock is an Omega Level Shapeshifter.

[Imraith Nimphais]

As if there was any doubt...he out-shape-shifted the Impossible Man (aka Impy) in NM Annual 3 (?)...so there.
ps...I will not get to read this until tomorrow...I hate you all (in Doug-speak: is depressed and sad)

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

It's true though, Warlock is an Omega Level Shapeshifter.

Case in point:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5586/490810-w10.jpg

[Astonishing!]

My first New Mutants issue! (of the current series)

I meant to buy #5, but it's been sold out forever, so I gave up.

Pretty good, really liked Amara and Illyana!

[Ratnlanrky]

it seems possible that Doug ripped Warlock's head off to save it from being infected by whatever virus Doug had already uploaded onto him that certainly appeared to be already about to kill him.

Its always seemed strange to me how easily Warlock is usually incapacitated in fights despite his energy absorption, armoring and regenerative abilities. Granted it would be a lot tougher to present a physical threat to the team if he stuck around longer in fights, but what a waste.

[Scavenger]

Oh, and the New Mutants looking shocked as if 'Lock were dead at the end was just silly. Warlock can separate and attach parts of himself at will, and is an omega-level shapeshifter. To think that he'd be killed by having his head ripped off is ridiculous.

1) They just witnessed their resurrected friend RIP THE HEAD off of a friend that just returned from years in space. That's a bit shocking.

2) If you're so pedantic that you need characters to only respond in ways that make sense if all actions are coldly analyzed before doing, Warlock stopped glowing. No Lifeglow = dead.


A great issue. As others mentioned, I really liked the Xavier parts. More then just him being treated as a non-douche, I liked that Wells was expressing unsureness in the parent/child relationship now that the children are grown. I'd like to see Xavier remain as supporting cast for the book (especially as he's being ignored elsewhere).

[Imraith Nimphais]

I finally got to read it this weekend...YAY!!! Another 4 to the boundary for Wells and Neves, who is paired with Tadeo, his inker on XM:WA...no wonder the lines looked clean and "tight"...thank the Gods!...However, while the colouring is not bad per se, Rauch should consider "upping" his colour palette as it more often than not, tends to flatten the scenes, overall. The covers look rich and bold and you open the book and everything appears somewot washed out.
As for a badly beaten Amara...I remember reading somewhere way back when the earth was in its infacy and Selene was just a wee babe...that physical connection to the earth would restore her to perfect health...which could explain the solicited "Lava" cover.

[samhalliwell]

This issue was amazing. Sunspot's getting annoying is the only complaint I have, and even that's still a little amusing.

Doug was scary, Shan was AWESOME, Illyana was creepy, and the scene with the Professor made me really happy, what with someone actually acting like the guy was an important figure in their liveswho they're happy to see. I wish he stays as a secondary character too, it's strange no to see him getting dissed to pimp Cyke up. Also, refreshing.

The cliffhanger was amazing in its brutlity, but I doubt it'll stick. I hope so. Can't wait for next issue.

[Goshin]

Warlock is the New Mutant's Jean Grey. He can never stay dead and his popularity overshadows half the living members of his team.

[Leirus]

My copy finally arrived. God, it seems a blind dolphin carried it on its back, or something...

Awww The last page broke my fan heart

*I do not want to die*

I really hope Doug did what he did to avoid the expansion of the Selene Trojan

PS: I will defend this book to death, now.

[tunasammiches]

LOVED IT. i remember reading the issues when doug died. that was so heartbreaking. and i remember that time period with the new mutants was really exciting, from magneto totally losing it after doug's death, to the NMs running away. it made for a totally intense read, which made me fall in love with the team and the book. i really hope they get some time with magneto to address how badly that all went down. they briefly addressed it during one of the 90's crossover issues, but i think wells would write it even more beautifully.

and i loved wells' acknowledgement of xavier's history with the NMs. he totally abandoned them. wells' scripting of doug's inferences during his reunion with his former students was spot on.

i love doug's resurrection. his powers are relevant to what they were in his younger years, and his upgrade makes a lot of sense. i love that wells went the complete opposite perspective on how we can view his powers. originally, it was spun to us by the writers that his powers were non-relevant in combat. now that we have doug without his human insecurities hampering him, it's amazing how wells gives us a little change of perspective about how his powers can be applicable during missions. it's like finally being able to see the whole picture. and i can almost feel that he's actually learning his new capabilities as the issue keeps progressing. i bet he didn't kill karma, not because he was holding back, but because violence is something that he just learned. but i think his attack on warlock shows that by that time, he's adapted to learn it.

i hope warlock's not dead. my heart jumped when he came to "save the day", and my jaw dropped at the end. so what i got out of the scene was that doug infected warlock with the T/O, and judging by warlock's panicked cries, in tandem with doug's inferences, as well as warlock's life glow colored as being completely depleted, that doug had in fact killed warlock. first by completely infecting him, and then decapitating him because of his evil programming directive he gets from selene. in which case, i really hope he's not dead. i'd love to see the NMs team all together again, alive and well. and that includes rahne. who i guess is on utopia now according to what i read in x-force.

i love sam's transformer costume. magma PWND!!! they never let her do that. thank you wells!!!! i can't wait to see what you do with magma. she's my least favorite out of the team, but i have faith you're gonna let her shine as well.

i really hope bobby starts pulling his weight in this book. has anyone noticed that whenever bobby appears in any of the x-books in the last few years, he gets taken out really easy in a fight? he can fly and shoot energy now. he's evolved since the reignfire storyline, and every other writer seems to have forgotten his solar power upgrades. but hey if yost is getting warpath to fly again (so not a fan of that add but it's canon i guess), hopefully wells can do the same.

my only criticism is the art. i'm not sure if it's the whole creative team, or if it's specifically neves, but the visuals aren't really doing it for me. it's not bad, it's just not my first choice. altho i think neves draws some juicy thighs (cannonball has some hot beefy legs), i really enjoyed zachary flagg baldus's art style and wish he was the regular on this book.

new mutants vs hellions!! can't wait.

[tunasammiches]

ps-is magik still a teenager or is she older?

[yanapryde]

ps-is magik still a teenager or is she older?

Little Miss Rasputin's questionable age, will remain questionable for a while, according to Zeb Well's.
Perhaps we'll be given more insight in the issue slated for January, when Emma Frost confronts Illyana about the 'future' she returned from, and allegedly hopes to prevent.

[pad]

Don't worry...



He can. At least, he should be able to. Douglock got decapitated in the issues leading up to Excalibur (vol. 1) #100 and ended up being okay. Warlock should be alright after this.


Now, I totally dug Karma's strategy for taking on Doug Ramsey. But more so...

F***ING DOUG RAMSEY! WOW. Whatever this T/O thing is, it's given Doug a crazy upgrade. He's is downright scary now.

I wish writers would remember that Karma controlled all four members of the Fantastic Four and had them fighting Spiderman in her first appearance. And she did that while she was weak and suffering from malnutrition. I always thought that she should have been able to do more when healthy and trained.

[pad]

I know it won't happen, but I hope that Wells actually kills either or both Magma and Warlock. I love both characters, but if there are never any consequences then what is the point? There is no way Magma should not be dead given Doug had her alone in her room.

What would be the point of killing Warlock? He was off Earth and made a pretty successful guest spot in Nova. If he really wanted to bring someone back from limbo just to kill him off, then Bird Brain is still out there somewhere! :)

[pad]

Unless part of Doug is still holding back, of course.

Wouldn't Doug have the ability to re-write his own code? Maybe he can hack his own programming to get rid of the obey command.

[pad]

This was an interesting issue, but I don't know if I like that suddenly Doug Ramsey has become Cassandra Cain Batgirl. He didn't have the ability to read body language and respond accordingly in combat when he died, so why would he have it now? I guess it makes Doug "cooler", but I was always fine with him as the nerdy loser who just was good with languages. Not everyone needs to have amazing untapped potential, IMO.

Oh, and the New Mutants looking shocked as if 'Lock were dead at the end was just silly. Warlock can separate and attach parts of himself at will, and is an omega-level shapeshifter. To think that he'd be killed by having his head ripped off is ridiculous.

Actually, Doug did have the ability to read body language. Someone help me out here with the issue number, but there was a scene in the first vol. of New Mutants where the team was questioning someone. Doug and Rahne both new the guy was lying. Rahne could tell by smell, and Doug by body language. Doug was always being protected by Warlock, and he was starting to resent it before his death. Doug always had the potential for reading body language in combat situations, but he died before realizing that potential.

[NielsVanEekelen]

What would be the point of killing Warlock? He was off Earth and made a pretty successful guest spot in Nova. If he really wanted to bring someone back from limbo just to kill him off, then Bird Brain is still out there somewhere! :)

No, he's (it's?) not. Wolverine caught Bird Brain and barbequed him. Tasted like chicken.

Actually, Doug did have the ability to read body language. Someone help me out here with the issue number, but there was a scene in the first vol. of New Mutants where the team was questioning someone. Doug and Rahne both new the guy was lying. Rahne could tell by smell, and Doug by body language. Doug was always being protected by Warlock, and he was starting to resent it before his death. Doug always had the potential for reading body language in combat situations, but he died before realizing that potential.

Reading the body language, yes. But that's still an entirely different skillset from being a ninja fighter and using that knowledge to kick everyone's ass.

[yanapryde]

No, he's (it's?) not. Wolverine caught Bird Brain and barbequed him. Tasted like chicken.



Reading the body language, yes. But that's still an entirely different skillset from being a ninja fighter and using that knowledge to kick everyone's ass.

First of all...YES. Wolverine ate Bird Brain. Stan Lee said so. probably.

And second. Yes. Body Language reading = win. But yes, it doesn't translate to suddenly acquiring ninja moves.
I can totally accept being able to dodge attacks, as he would be able to "read" them coming, like someone telegraphing punches or what not, but the flips and kicks and such are questionable. Am I excited to see them? Oh sure.
Are they plausible? Not really.:smile:

[NielsVanEekelen]

First of all...YES. Wolverine ate Bird Brain. Stan Lee said so. probably.

Remember that old Wolverine issue where he went camping with Cannonball and some others? Yeah, that's what they ate then. Logan didn't tell Sam.

And second. Yes. Body Language reading = win. But yes, it doesn't translate to suddenly acquiring ninja moves.
I can totally accept being able to dodge attacks, as he would be able to "read" them coming, like someone telegraphing punches or what not, but the flips and kicks and such are questionable. Am I excited to see them? Oh sure.
Are they plausible? Not really.:smile:

Well, the T-O can explain it by having enhanced his reflexes... but if Doug sticks around, he won't really be Doug unless he's slightly helpless Dork!Doug. It was his charm. :smile:

[Havok83]

I liked the Xavier reunion we got in the last issue, but does anyone else want to see the NM reunited with Magneto. In all honesty they spent the bulk of their time with him as their mentor and father figure. The last time any of them dealt with him was back in the late 90s on X-force but only Moonstar and Cannonball were a part of the team at that time. I think they need a full reunion especially considering most of the students are back together

[yanapryde]

I liked the Xavier reunion we got in the last issue, but does anyone else want to see the NM reunited with Magneto. In all honesty they spent the bulk of their time with him as their mentor and father figure. The last time any of them dealt with him was back in the late 90s on X-force but only Moonstar and Cannonball were a part of the team at that time. I think they need a full reunion especially considering most of the students are back together

MOST DEFINITELY!
Two...Count 'em... TWO amazing blondes met their untimely demise under his watch! TWO! We NEED to see some Mags-Dougie-Ilyee interaction for sure!:smile:

[Havok83]

MOST DEFINITELY!
Two...Count 'em... TWO amazing blondes met their untimely demise under his watch! TWO! We NEED to see some Mags-Dougie-Ilyee interaction for sure!:smile:
I think I liked his realtionship with Illyana the most. It would be good to see them together again

[yanapryde]

I think I liked his realtionship with Illyana the most. It would be good to see them together again

I like you more and more with every post.

[Havok83]

I like you more and more with every post.
you'll like me even more after this pic. Mags and Illyana clashed but deep down he cared for her and she respected him

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9863/newmutants52magikmagnet.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/newmutants52magikmagnet.jpg/)

[yanapryde]

you'll like me even more after this pic. Mags and Illyana clashed but deep down he cared for her and she respected him



Oh Havok83.
Not like.
LOVE!
That is the exact issue I was thinking of.:smile:

[NielsVanEekelen]

I think I liked his realtionship with Illyana the most. It would be good to see them together again

Magnus put a lot of effort into persuading the New Mutants to trust him, and it worked--but he simply made the most progress with Illyana. Thanks to his... colorful... past, Magneto could understand what she was going through, and it convinced Illyana to accept his support where she might not have accepted it from Xavier.

Doug's death was the worst that happened to the Mutants under Magneto's leadership, but that was a random killing. Illyana was lost to exactly that which he pledged to help her with, and I think because of their personal connection, it weighed very heavily on Magneto that he wasn't there for her during Inferno.

Which is a longwinded way of saying, yeah, their relationship was great and it would be awesome to see them reconnect.

[yanapryde]

Magnus put a lot of effort into persuading the New Mutants to trust him, and it worked--but he simply made the most progress with Illyana. Thanks to his... colorful... past, Magneto could understand what she was going through, and it convinced Illyana to accept his support where she might not have accepted it from Xavier.

Illyana was lost to exactly that which he pledged to help her with, and I think because of their personal connection, it weighed very heavily on Magneto that he wasn't there for her during Inferno.

Which is a longwinded way of saying, yeah, their relationship was great and it would be awesome to see them reconnect.

And, if I recall, there was a confrontation between Magneto and his Hellfire cohorts regarding the loss of Illyana in particular. I know that they saw his role as their mentor and supervisor, as an opportunity to use the NM to their advantage, and Illyana's powers in particular would have proven incredibly useful.
Granted, after Illyana's regression in age, I gave up on New Mutants (I hate to admit) so I don't know what developed beyond that with he and the Hellfire club and their intentions for the students but.... it does raise some questions regarding Magneto's intentions and their purity in his counseling of Ms.Rasputin.

[Havok83]

And, if I recall, there was a confrontation between Magneto and his Hellfire cohorts regarding the loss of Illyana in particular. I know that they saw his role as their mentor and supervisor, as an opportunity to use the NM to their advantage, and Illyana's powers in particular would have proven incredibly useful.
Granted, after Illyana's regression in age, I gave up on New Mutants (I hate to admit) so I don't know what developed beyond that with he and the Hellfire club and their intentions for the students but.... it does raise some questions regarding Magneto's intentions and their purity in his counseling of Ms.Rasputin.
I beleive soon after that Magneto quit the HFC and he made his way back to the Savage Land, where he got close to Rogue and mixxed up in Zaladane's plot

[Personamanx]

I read this book last week, and I have to say this...... Cypher is awesome. I've only read this, and the Necrosha One-shot with him in it, and I love him. I only read this because of the Necrosha tie-in but if Cypher Continues to appear and kick the NM's in the ass I may just have to buy this book more regularly.

[yanapryde]

I read this book last week, and I have to say this...... Cypher is awesome. I've only read this, and the Necrosha One-shot with him in it, and I love him. I only read this because of the Necrosha tie-in but if Cypher Continues to appear and kick the NM's in the ass I may just have to buy this book more regularly.

Mr. Awesome-Ramsey will eventually be kicking ass WITH the New Mutants, rather than kicking THEIR asses.

[Personamanx]

Mr. Awesome-Ramsey will eventually be kicking ass WITH the New Mutants, rather than kicking THEIR asses.

Wel I guess I'll have to settle for that.......

[Havok83]

I read this book last week, and I have to say this...... Cypher is awesome. I've only read this, and the Necrosha One-shot with him in it, and I love him. I only read this because of the Necrosha tie-in but if Cypher Continues to appear and kick the NM's in the ass I may just have to buy this book more regularly.
Cypher got a MAJOR upgrade. He was easily the weakest mutant back in the day. It was a running joke that he was a hero with no offensive or defensive powers and inneffective in any way on the battlefield which is why his death was inevitable. Doug now is infinitately a much better combatant now. Definetly isnt as helpless as he used to be, which I like, yet dont like at the same time

[The Lucky One]

Doug's death was the worst that happened to the Mutants under Magneto's leadership, but that was a random killing.

What I'd like to see -- I don't have confidence that we'll actually see it, but I'd like to see it -- is the impact Doug and 'Yana's returns have on Magnus. He described telling Doug's parents about his death as the hardest thing he ever had to do (this from a man who lived through the Holocaust), and Illyana's de-aging is what finally drove him over the edge and led to the final split with the Muties. While I'm not saying Doug and 'Yana's returns should automatically restore him to being a "good guy," it would be great to see what impact it would have on him, whether he loosened up any or if it actually drove him in the opposite direction, being reminded again of his greatest failures.

-D

[NielsVanEekelen]

And, if I recall, there was a confrontation between Magneto and his Hellfire cohorts regarding the loss of Illyana in particular. I know that they saw his role as their mentor and supervisor, as an opportunity to use the NM to their advantage, and Illyana's powers in particular would have proven incredibly useful.
Granted, after Illyana's regression in age, I gave up on New Mutants (I hate to admit) so I don't know what developed beyond that with he and the Hellfire club and their intentions for the students but.... it does raise some questions regarding Magneto's intentions and their purity in his counseling of Ms.Rasputin.

I truly believe that Magneto's motives were pure there. He made the alliance with the Hellfire club (and let's not forget the X-Men were still around when that started) because he saw the world becoming an increasingly hostile and dangerous place for mutants, and he thought mutants in general and his students in particular would be safest if they stood together.

[NielsVanEekelen]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0911/10/newmutants6.jpg

ComicsContinuum (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0911/10/index.htm) reports X Necrosha and New Mutants #6 are both up for second printings, out Dec. 16!

[Blood Witch]

Love the take on the new cover.
SOOO happy to hear it sold out. http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10229.The_Rise_of_The_Mutants_Begins

Loved it! Looking forward to the next one.
Doug was so polite.

[Blood Witch]

oops double post.

[Anna]

you'll like me even more after this pic. Mags and Illyana clashed but deep down he cared for her and she respected him

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9863/newmutants52magikmagnet.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/newmutants52magikmagnet.jpg/)

Love love love! :biggrin:

[pad]

First of all...YES. Wolverine ate Bird Brain. Stan Lee said so. probably.

And second. Yes. Body Language reading = win. But yes, it doesn't translate to suddenly acquiring ninja moves.
I can totally accept being able to dodge attacks, as he would be able to "read" them coming, like someone telegraphing punches or what not, but the flips and kicks and such are questionable. Am I excited to see them? Oh sure.
Are they plausible? Not really.:smile:

Thank you Magik lovers both for the info. I didn't know about Bird Brain...Gossymr is still out there somewhere..LOL.

I give credit to Doug being a Phalanx (I guess that's better than calling him a zombie) for his fighting skills. His mutant powers read the body language, and his augmented body is fast enough to respond. Also remember that with the exception of Amara, he was a defensive fighter. He is just responding to others' actions, so it is easy to dodge and hit when others let down their guards.

[Havok83]

Thank you Magik lovers both for the info. I didn't know about Bird Brain...Gossymr is still out there somewhere..LOL.

I give credit to Doug being a Phalanx (I guess that's better than calling him a zombie) for his fighting skills. His mutant powers read the body language, and his augmented body is fast enough to respond. Also remember that with the exception of Amara, he was a defensive fighter. He is just responding to others' actions, so it is easy to dodge and hit when others let down their guards.
I dont ever recall him reading body language before. This seems to be a new interpreteation of his powers. I think it was simply written and spoken language that he could decipher

[Aguja]

I want this issue!

Seriously it is about damn time Karma was shown as the bad ass she was destined to be. Step back bitches!

Warlock needs to DIAF please.

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I liked the Xavier reunion we got in the last issue, but does anyone else want to see the NM reunited with Magneto. In all honesty they spent the bulk of their time with him as their mentor and father figure. The last time any of them dealt with him was back in the late 90s on X-force but only Moonstar and Cannonball were a part of the team at that time. I think they need a full reunion especially considering most of the students are back together

That will be cool. And once Cable comes back from the future, all former mentors will be together. Do you remember back in the day when they were saying that Sam is a good leader because he combines the three mentors' teachings in some way? I guess he is also learning from Cyclops now. I do hope Sam and Scott become closer friends since they can both relate to being the leader. It would also let Scott confide in someone other than Emma.

[NielsVanEekelen]

I dont ever recall him reading body language before. This seems to be a new interpreteation of his powers. I think it was simply written and spoken language that he could decipher

New Mutants #53, right there in his own thought balloon. :wink:

[Scavenger]

I truly believe that Magneto's motives were pure there. He made the alliance with the Hellfire club (and let's not forget the X-Men were still around when that started) because he saw the world becoming an increasingly hostile and dangerous place for mutants, and he thought mutants in general and his students in particular would be safest if they stood together.

Well he joined after Storm convinced him to.

[Leirus]

New Mutant 6# has sold out and will be re-printed.

http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/27617.htm/#more-27617

[Fatguy]

New Mutant 6# has sold out and will be re-printed.

http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/27617.htm/#more-27617

I'm really hoping Necrosha will bring a long term sales boost to this book. I definitely want to see it have a nice long run.

[Talisman]

I'm really hoping Necrosha will bring a long term sales boost to this book. I definitely want to see it have a nice long run.
Me too. These are some of my favorite X-Characters, and it's been so long since they've all been together in the same book. I really hope Zeb has more issues like #5 because seriously, downtime issues are seriously missing in today's comics. And I really hope the Hellions stick around and get their own minds and personalities back.

And we match!!!<3