CBR: EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: "Hulk" #16

[CBR News]

Courtesy of Marvel Comics, CBR presents an exclusive 5-page preview of "Hulk" #16 by Jeph Loeb and Ian Churchill, featuring Red She-Hulk Vs Wolverine, on sale October 28.


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23402).

[Shai Hulud]

.Another great mystery by the Grand Master Loeb.Garbage.

[Robogeek28]

Wow, this looks....wow.

[dirtydozen]

Doesn't look like the best dialogue ever... At least its $2.99 lol! Imagine the witch-hunt if Loeb killed any of the 3.

[Hrungr]

I like her look though. :biggrin:

[Bevbos]

I can't hate on a series I'm not reading. But: ...whaaaaaaat?

[Majinoaw]

No Loeb. No. Yes on the story of Ross' father, no on everything else.

[DarienA]

I knew this was coming have seen the previews and articles about it... but really this is getting beyond absurd....

[Joe Franklin]

Loeb's book is only about the Red Hulks now, so what's the problem?:confused:

Green Hulk has his own book now, even though Greg Pak doesn't use Green Hulk, only Banner? This seems stranger to me?:confused:

Why are Green Hulk fans upset about Red Hulk's book? Thanks.

[DarienA]

Loeb's book is only about the Red Hulks now, so what's the problem?:confused:

Green Hulk has his own book now, even though Greg Pak doesn't use Green Hulk, only Banner? This seems stranger to me?:confused:

Why are Green Hulk fans upset about Red Hulk's book? Thanks.

Honestly (and this may sound silly) because I think it dilutes the Hulk Brand... but don't get me wrong I include Thundra and A-Bomb in the list of silly recent Hulk additions... I just don't see the need.

And I'll have to keep reading it so I can continue to voice my displeasure.

;)

Plus I'm still pissed at how easily Red Hulk depowered Bruce in their rematch... not cool.

[rajincajun689]

Wow. That right there is some atrocious dialogue... even by Loeb standards.

[Anxy]

I'm so, so, SO happy I'm not buying any of the Hulk titles these days. Yeesh.

[Joe Franklin]

Honestly (and this may sound silly) because I think it dilutes the Hulk Brand... but don't get me wrong I include Thundra and A-Bomb in the list of silly recent Hulk additions... I just don't see the need.


Marvel has 2 good selling Hulk titles right now by Pak(green) and Loeb(red), so it helps the Hulk franchise.

[Will.S]

Doesn't look like the best dialogue ever... At least its $2.99 lol! Imagine the witch-hunt if Loeb killed any of the 3.
It's still $3.99.

[DarienA]

Marvel has 2 good selling Hulk titles right now by Pak(green) and Loeb(red), so it helps the Hulk franchise.

Let's see... Jen's barely used these days... now Thundra is here and she gets backup stories in one of the books IIRC... Red Hulk is here, and now Red She-Hulk? Did we really another Hulk-derived character? I mean heck I'm not even mentioning Skaar, Son of Hulk or the recent teasing that Carmilla Black (Scorpion) might be part of the family...

[Shai Hulud]

Loeb, when are we going to see Son of Rulk ?????????????

[dirtydozen]

Yeah, the CBR preview says $2.99 but the actual cover says $3.99... That's too bad.

The art is pretty bad as well. Wolverine has only one facial expression: Grimace.

[Talkie Toaster]

Well at least we find out how Ross started smoking

[Supermutant2099]

::Shakes head and then put paper bag over head:: That is how embarressed I am over marvel comics and even dc. Seriously does marvel even care about it fans anymore? Preview ends with Fake Red Female Hulk saying the REAL SHE-HULK is dead? Could be she is really dead and she-hulk and fakes mini-series will really be just about fakes. Most fans don't give a damn about Thundra in green body paint but they gave her the back up in Incredible Hulk. I got a bad feeling they will push these 20th rate versions. People say that they made theses fakes because of split between She-Hulk fans. You create to characters that are nothing like She-Hulk has nothing that anyone likes except for the pontiental of transformations and no tfs? Are we supposed to be that stupid as fans? I'm begging someone at Marvel and Disney to wake up and get Jeph Loeb off Hulk books because everything that is happening it's his fault. Then please fire Joe q because this is just another thing that he either okay or let happen under him.

[Joe Franklin]

::Shakes head and then put paper bag over head:: That is how embarressed I am over marvel comics and even dc. Seriously does marvel even care about it fans anymore? Preview ends with Fake Red Female Hulk saying the REAL SHE-HULK is dead? Could be she is really dead and she-hulk and fakes mini-series will really be just about fakes. Most fans don't give a damn about Thundra in green body paint but they gave her the back up in Incredible Hulk. I got a bad feeling they will push these 20th rate versions. People say that they made theses fakes because of split between She-Hulk fans. You create to characters that are nothing like She-Hulk has nothing that anyone likes except for the pontiental of transformations and no tfs? Are we supposed to be that stupid as fans? I'm begging someone at Marvel and Disney to wake up and get Jeph Loeb off Hulk books because everything that is happening it's his fault. Then please fire Joe q because this is just another thing that he either okay or let happen under him.

Marvel has tried to have Jen carry her own book off and on for the last 25 years, and it hasn't worked. The sales figures have sucked.

Jen as She-Hulk is awesome for me, but the sales figures prove otherwise as to what the masses think with their wallets.

Jen doesn't sell, so Marvel is trying something new. If the new doesn't sell, then Marvel might try Jen again.

[DarienA]

Marvel has tried to have Jen carry her own book off and on for the last 25 years, and it hasn't worked. The sales figures have sucked.

Jen as She-Hulk is awesome for me, but the sales figures prove otherwise as to what the masses think with their wallets.

Jen doesn't sell, so Marvel is trying something new. If the new doesn't sell, then Marvel might try Jen again.

Which something knew are you referring to? I gave you a list of what seems to be a whole bunch of "new" just thrown at a fan to see what sticks...

;)

[Joe Franklin]

Which something knew are you referring to? I gave you a list of what seems to be a whole bunch of "new" just thrown at a fan to see what sticks...

;)

Loeb's Red Hulk sells great, much better then She-Hulk has sold lately in any of her forms.

So far, all of the green versions of She-Hulk have sold poorly. It will be interesting to see if Marvel publishes a Red She-Hulk series, to see if it will outsell a Green She-Hulk series? Only time will tell.

[Supermutant2099]

It didn't sell totally poolry but like at Green Body Paint Thundra's series. That only sold close to Jen's because of the fact they called it a Dark Reign tie at least second. I really don't think a Red Female Hulk series would sell either. The problem is there section of She-Hulk fans that were so dead set against TF part of she-hulk that they hated before it came out. They want the Sensational version. Did it influence the fact that they hated the series. A bit. It was never enough action for them. You say anything nice about Dan Slott they hate you. That hurt things and even Peter David has admitted to it. Doing this won't really won't fix it because they are not character they like. I just rather read The real She-Hulk and her being drawn that well then a rip off in red colors.
By the way marvel never put advertising or anything to try left sales. Greg Horn covers were beautiful. I wish they did a poster book of those. It was one of the best series Marvel put in recent years. It was one of those books marvel just didn't seem to care at all about and put out there. Poor sales doesn't mean bad book.
Also the other problem what really angers me is now it feels like all my money and time is was wasted if they are just going to replace character I gotten into since early 90s for a cheap knock off.

[dirtydozen]

Loeb's Red Hulk sells great, much better then She-Hulk has sold lately in any of her forms.

So far, all of the green versions of She-Hulk have sold poorly. It will be interesting to see if Marvel publishes a Red She-Hulk series, to see if it will outsell a Green She-Hulk series? Only time will tell.

Loeb's Red Hulk book is extremely relevant to the goings on in the Marvel universe as a whole and has many popular characters in it. When you have characters like Wolverine, Deadpool, Green Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, etc popping up in your book fans of those books will buy it. Since day one Loeb has piled on as many characters as possible into his book. People aren't buying it for the story and dialogue because both are terrible. People buy it because its a Hulk title and has so much shit going on.

My opinion on why Jen's books have failed is because they failed to be relevant to the goings on in the Marvel universe. Its the same reason why B list characters with their own titles struggle to sell. When She-Hulk was fighting Super Skrull during SI the book was selling a lot but after that when she focused on the bounty hunter and living in a trailer thing people stopped buying. Regardless of whether the story and characters were good people didn't really care about it. Just a personal opinion but if there was a new She-Hulk title and every issue it had Wolverine or Deadpool popping up in it, it would sell a lot too.

Back to the thread... The dialogue in this title is simply horrendous. This seems to be written for 10-12 year old kids. With Loeb's disregard for other writers' work I wouldn't be surprised if he simply killed off Domino, Elektra or Jen. This is the same guy who set up a useless intergalactic battle royale just to prove Rulk is a badass.

[ResIpsaLoquitur]

Well anyway, we have confirmation that Shred isn't Thundra. Unless she's Thundra from the future. (Ow, ow, ow.) But then, my original idea was that Rulk turned Thundra into Shred as part of their deal in issue #9. Here, Rulk seems to have no idea who Shred is. Maybe MODOK made her.

[NickGuy]

this series keeps getting more serious. I dont like it. more goofiness, please

[LordSMVS]

Quesada should put a limit on the characters Loeb can use and then tell him to go play in the corner by himself.

[whiteshark]

Looks good to me.:smile:

Can`t wait to pick this up.
I rather read a Hulk book less serious as were Hulk stories in the past.

And the art from Ed McGuiness to the curent artist kept a good quality,that is nice as well.