Next BIG villain... isn’t actually a villain just yet - Dan Didio [Archive]

jtd

10-20-2009, 08:27 AM

Thok

10-20-2009, 08:30 AM

Magog has to become a villain at some point in the future, right?

Shellhead

10-20-2009, 08:31 AM

I bet that it's going to be Magog. Otherwise, why would DC bother giving a Cable wannabe his own monthly title when they have so many other characters who are more interesting?

Karl O'Neill

10-20-2009, 08:38 AM

If it is magog I will be very discusted.

Thok

10-20-2009, 08:40 AM

If it is magog I will be very discusted.

Armageddon 2011

Superbeast

10-20-2009, 08:43 AM

Who can they use that would matter? For me it comes down to Superman, Batman or the JSA founders.

Mr Terrific and Allan Scott launch a new Checkmate initiative that starts the superhero division as seen in Kingdom Come as a result of the cracks appearing in the JSA and Magog getting a chance to rise to prominence, Bruce comes back to the present and unleashes Master Eye as an ultimate contingency plan, Zod and Kal El lead a take over of Earth "for the good of both our people".

Anxy

10-20-2009, 08:55 AM

Maybe he's referring to Guy Gardner after he becomes a Red Lantern? Just a guess.

Superbeast

10-20-2009, 09:06 AM

Maybe he's referring to Guy Gardner after he becomes a Red Lantern? Just a guess.

I don't think anyone would view Guy Gardner as a serious threat as a big bad unfortunately.

Maybe Sinestro sacrifices himself during BN and Natu takes up as the new leader of the Sinestro Corps? She is his daughter after all.

Artificial idiot

10-20-2009, 09:09 AM

The reason Ambush Bug has been delayed so long is because that series accidentally revealed that the new big villain for 2010 is...

... Dan Didio! :eek:

Okay, probably not much of a surprise to most. :tongue: Seriously though, I'm thinking Magog is a bit too obvious and to build up a character this much only to slap him right back where he started at with Kingdom Come would be a bit much. Personally, I'm hedging my bets on a mind controlled Krypto... There's just something a little too cold and lifeless about his eyes in Adventure Comics. *shifty*

Gavin G.

10-20-2009, 10:55 AM

If it is magog I will be very discusted.
I've feared from the beginning that Magog was just going to be the next Azrael: introduced to the public as DC's next great character, when in actuality he was never meant to be anything other than a plot device for a future event. Brave and the Bold #23, featuring him and Booster Gold, only further served to elevate my fears, and Magog certainly seems like the most likely candidate for what DiDio is implying here.

However, one could take his appearance in B&B to be referencing the Kingdom Come future, and in that case, the DCU time line will never actually get that far. Likewise, if the the mainstream DCU is to follow the KC time line, it's far too early still for Magog to be the cause of a nuclear fallout. On the other hand, this isn't the Kingdom Come Earth; there's no reason Magog can't go evil right now, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's where this is going, unfortunately.

Everyone, including myself, seemed shocked when Magog got his own series. It was my hope that it was DC simply trying to push a "new" character, but in the back of my mind I've always remained suspicious that it was just going to be an introduction to an event a couple of years in the making. And now DiDio's statement will only help to keep that train of thought in my head for a long time to come, I'm afraid.

Thok

10-20-2009, 10:58 AM

Fo what it's worth, if this is related to Armageddon 2011, then the plan might be to have us think it's Magog, then change it to some other character at the last minute.

DetectiveDupin

10-20-2009, 11:06 AM

Wally West

Gavin G.

10-20-2009, 11:14 AM

Fo what it's worth, if this is related to Armageddon 2011, then the plan might be to have us think it's Magog, then change it to some other character at the last minute.
It would be pretty sweet if you're right, and in the end, Magog actually lends a big hand in taking down whoever the big bad ultimately turns out to be. Now that would make me happy.:biggrin:

Choppa

10-20-2009, 11:15 AM

It's obviously Hal Jordan. Time to shake things up again.

Infinity Man

10-20-2009, 11:39 AM

I think Magog would be too obvious, so it must be someone else. Or at least I hope it is.

Alex Smith

10-20-2009, 11:49 AM

I'd be happy for it to be Magog, just so he can be beaten and gotten rid of for a little while at least.

DetectiveDupin

10-20-2009, 11:50 AM

I think Magog would be too obvious, so it must be someone else. Or at least I hope it is.

Obvious like who was going to be the new Batman obvious?

Or obvious like who was going to be the new Robin?

Or Azrael?

or Batgirl?

Don't be naive when it comes to DC and obviousness.

Draconomicon

10-20-2009, 12:10 PM

Booster Gold and Blue Beetle merge, and become Booster Beetle, or Blue Gold, donning Monarchs armor to be the villain no one saw coming (Sharing one armor with Captain Atom will be awkward, especially after Atom had some spicey food, but there can only be so many Monarchs).

Gavin G.

10-20-2009, 12:25 PM

Obvious like who was going to be the new Batman obvious?

Or obvious like who was going to be the new Robin?

Or Azrael?

or Batgirl?

Don't be naive when it comes to DC and obviousness.
White Lanterns, too. Don't think it won't happen.

Buried Alien

10-20-2009, 12:37 PM

We'll learn that Bruce Wayne *is* Ra's Al-Ghul (which would imply some pretty sick things about Damian).

Or perhaps Bruce is Vandal Savage.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Static-Pulse

10-20-2009, 01:08 PM

My vote is Toyman, the Hiro Okamura version. When he finds out there was a perfect role for him in the Power Girl series and everyone thought he was a robot, the excrement will forcefully contact the turbine.

greatmetropolitan

10-20-2009, 01:18 PM

A disgruntled Dick Grayson who couldn't take the stress of being the Batman.

I'd hate it, but I can see them doing it.

Lemurion

10-20-2009, 01:22 PM

Forth World

10-20-2009, 01:29 PM

Dr. Light II (Kimiyo Hoshi) is going to start raping everyone.

aut0matic

10-20-2009, 01:35 PM

Dr. Light II (Kimiyo Hoshi) is going to start raping everyone.

bah, we all know only ugly people rape.

DetectiveDupin

10-20-2009, 01:40 PM

A disgruntled Dick Grayson who couldn't take the stress of being the Batman.

I'd hate it, but I can see them doing it.

God I hope you're wrong.

bongoes

10-20-2009, 01:48 PM

I think it'll be Magog.

SeritoNiN

10-20-2009, 02:10 PM

Magog seems suited better as a hero who does what the others heroes won't. I don't like the idea of him going rogue.

I'm guessing with the return of Bruce Wayne and what not, it'll be someone in the Batman family.

By the way, what's Armageddon 2011?

Jarath

10-20-2009, 02:18 PM

You know, some non-villain becoming a villain just turned me right off the idea.

It's not the kind of thing I want to read about.

I like making sense of the legacy issues and keeping all the charactes around; but so far it's not looking as good as it has been lately. Which is a pity - I've been relying on DC for my superhero comics as Marvel's been taking the dark road and cancelling all their good titles.

Seems a bit early to write it off. We don't know who it is going to be, how it will happen, how villainous they will become, whether they're doing it of their own free will, whether they will be redeemed.

ryerye17

10-20-2009, 02:18 PM

By the way, what's Armageddon 2011?

It's in Rip Hunter's blackboard

Buried Alien

10-20-2009, 02:24 PM

You know, some non-villain becoming a villain just turned me right off the idea.

It's not the kind of thing I want to read about.

It's also been done before. Nothing paticularly fresh or appealing about the concept.

I've had enough "Parallax" to last a lifetime.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Shellhead

10-20-2009, 02:25 PM

It's in Rip Hunter's blackboard

Dude has a time machine, but uses chalk and a blackboard to keep track of information?

goat

10-20-2009, 02:44 PM

Dude has a time machine, but uses chalk and a blackboard to keep track of information?

It's probably a personal choice. Just like some of us don't use text messaging.

Buried Alien

10-20-2009, 02:48 PM

Dude has a time machine, but uses chalk and a blackboard to keep track of information?

I know.

It's the 21st Century, for crying out loud. Everybody's using dry-erase markers now.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Shellhead

10-20-2009, 02:52 PM

I know.

It's the 21st Century, for crying out loud. Everybody's using dry-erase markers now.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Heh. Now I'm picturing Rip Hunter periodically emerging from his bunker to bang two erasers together for a while, just to get rid of the chalk dust buildup.

Anxy

10-20-2009, 02:56 PM

I don't think anyone would view Guy Gardner as a serious threat as a big bad unfortunately.

Maybe Sinestro sacrifices himself during BN and Natu takes up as the new leader of the Sinestro Corps? She is his daughter after all.

You're probably right, though from what I've seen of the Red Lanterns, I wouldn't exactly invite them to a knitting circle or hire them to babysit my kid.

Really though, Blackest Night literally has new big-bad possibilities popping up through the ground left and right. Whenever the Orkin Lantern shows up to exterminate all the DC zombies, I'm at least hoping there'll be a couple of familiar maggot-laden faces crawling around under the radar in the post-BN world.

Spiffy

10-20-2009, 02:58 PM

This is the full quote from Dan Didio, from his feature on Newsarama:

"the person who might be deemed the next villain isn’t actually a villain just yet. - Dan Didio, from '10 Answers & One Question with DC's DAN DIDIO':

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091019-Didio-10-Questions.html

He says this will happen "by the end of next year".

So...let the speculation begin! Is this a current good guy? An unknown? A non-powered civilian?

I'm going to through out a WILD guess and say it's Superman. No real basis, other than their being a "Superman event" in 2010, and the shock value.

What do you think?

I think people "going evil" has been done to death already. Right, Dan?

titanfan

10-20-2009, 04:23 PM

Don't worry, now that everyone has figured out it's Magog, they'll change it at the last minute to whoever the new Hawk is. (There's a reason that Dove is getting a random push out of Blackest Night--it's their back up plan. :P)

InSovietRussia

10-20-2009, 04:43 PM

It's obviously Hal Jordan. Time to shake things up again.

-scene at the end of the next big event-
Hal: So it was really a magic rage monster possessing me that made me murder all those billions of people and eat that baby?
Barry: Sure was buddy... thankfully, I saved the day by running in a circle real fast, and doing some sorta 'deus ex machina' time thingie!
Martian Manhunter: Let's all go out for frosty chocolate milkshakes!
Batman (Dick): Errr, what about all those people you killed? Annd come to think of it, aren't you dead? - looks at Jonn -
Hal: Shut up! -punches Bats, cue laugh track as the other three walk off-
*fin*

Will.S

10-20-2009, 04:44 PM

Well with Waverider supposedly making some type of return, Captain Atom having his own back up feature in Action (and apparently is going to factor into the Superman books), perhaps they have some sort of remake or sequel to Armageddon 2011 planned.

Although it would be dumb to make Captain Atom Monarch again after that was done in Countdown.

Munkiman

10-20-2009, 04:45 PM

Hal Jordan, revealing his true colors.

Or Bruce Wayne.

Or... THE JOKESTER.

Retro315

10-20-2009, 05:25 PM

Mordru? Not a villain "yet" in the 21st Century, right?

General Lane? Seen as a "hero" but obviously a villain.

But specifically DiDio mentioned it was a character who'd be rethought the way Brainiac and Sinestro, Black Hand and Starro, have been ... some one possibly small-time with the potential to go big and go bad.

There are about a million of those.

maniacmatt

10-20-2009, 05:42 PM

Judging by the Jan. solicits, it could be Blue Beetle.

FanboyStranger

10-20-2009, 06:10 PM

Mordru? Not a villain "yet" in the 21st Century, right?

.

He was in the last JSA series. He last appeared in our timeline in JSA 51, I believe.

Freakzeek

10-20-2009, 07:10 PM

memeber of the batfamily? not damien or Dick ?

Stephanie Brown

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww318/Freakzeek_2009/1256085589659.jpg

Retro315

10-20-2009, 07:31 PM

Hal Jordan, revealing his true colors.

Or Bruce Wayne.

Or... THE JOKESTER.

God I want to see Morrison tackle The Jokester of the Anti-Matter Universe in "Multiversity" ...

JurassicParkIsAnAwesomeMovie

10-20-2009, 10:38 PM

Wally West...He's pissed off that he lost his book to Barry Allen, and has to be a back-up story.

numberONE

10-21-2009, 12:50 AM

Jimmy Olson.

RyleKayner

10-21-2009, 01:47 AM

K-DoG7p7

10-21-2009, 04:22 AM

Its Green Arrow

titanfan

10-21-2009, 05:15 PM

memeber of the batfamily? not damien or Dick ?

Stephanie Brown

Barely competent as a hero. Would be laughable as a villain, although it does run in the family.

Hybrid2

10-21-2009, 05:22 PM

I'm scared it could be Blue Beetle.

Bakura

10-21-2009, 08:07 PM

Well judging from the black board they are redoing Armageddon. For all we know, Waverider could be the villian. Most likely it's Magog, although he doesn't seem powerful enough to be the next big villain. I think it's going to be either someone really high powered or someone with allot of control over tech or people.

Slaughter

10-21-2009, 10:02 PM

I'm scared it could be Blue Beetle.

Yeah, he had a short outburst at Black Beetle, had to contain himself or the scarab would slice Black Beetle into pieces. He definitively has the power to be a fearsome villain, easily.

dupersuper

10-21-2009, 10:03 PM

Perry Whites adopted son Keiths cat Tiger pulls a Titans Wonder Dog...?

shanejayell

10-21-2009, 11:11 PM

Green Arrow, after years of bad writing, snaps and dubs himself 'Black Arrow!' Oliver then makes his way across America killing b-list super heroes that no onw will remember anyway until stopped and killed by Black Canary.

In a plot twist the fans will learn that all of this was secretly set up by Oracle to get back Black Canary.

:biggrin:

noh-varr

10-22-2009, 12:04 AM

It's Wally. Someone (Zoom?) kills his kids and he goes all Hal Jordan on people. The JLA have to take him down.

It's Geoff Johnsy, Brad Meltzery and Dan Didioey. It just makes sense.

Also it'll prove to everyone how much Wally sucked these last 20 years and that Borey Allen is the one true Flash.

Oh, and Hal Jordan will have a threesome.

They do this and I'm totally done with the DCU. I can't give up Vertigo, but I could quit the super heroes.

Wally became a great character in those 20 years, Barry became an ideal. So let's bring Barry back, give him tons of flaws and new origins aspects to take back from the greatest super hero death ever.

DrewC

10-22-2009, 12:30 AM

A "good" guy (or girl) goes "bad"!?!

Wow... snore. Yet another page taken from the Comic Book Gimmicks Encyclopedia.

Mr. Kent

10-22-2009, 12:33 AM

If it is magog I will be very disgusted.

If it's anything at all to do with Magog, I too will be disgusted. Anything to do with Magog disgusts me. :smile:

earl

10-22-2009, 01:42 AM

They will probably have Superman turn evil.

arrowsonthemyscira

10-22-2009, 09:27 AM

They will probably have Superman turn evil.

I thought Superman already was evil.

Oops, I always confusing evil with boring.

Note to self: Boring =/= Evil

show name

10-22-2009, 09:44 AM

I know.

It's the 21st Century, for crying out loud. Everybody's using dry-erase markers now.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Dry-erase markers in a bunker is probably bad news though, unless the bunker has incredibly good ventilation.

As for the new villain, Rip Hunter would actually be an amazing choice. A showdown between him and DC Earth would be epic in scope.
Personally though, I don't want any more heroes turning villain.

Regarding Superman as a villain...he's the greatest hero no doubt, but as uber as he is I don't seem him as a real threat to the entire super-hero community. There are plenty of heroes who match, almost match, or overmatch him in power. A handful of heroes have very good chances taking him out solo. With all of them working in concert, I don't think he would stand much of a chance.

titanfan

10-22-2009, 09:48 AM

In a plot twist the fans will learn that all of this was secretly set up by Oracle to get back Black Canary.

Oracle was a villainess would be terrifying, although there would be outrage at the character assassination.

FailureByDesign

10-22-2009, 09:54 AM

Didio never really says himself that they are the next "big" villain of 2010, just who to keep an eye on..but id guess
1. Superman - For his event, which will most likely include a New Krypton war with Earth, Superman may side with his new home.
2. Guy Gardner - Not as much a villain but with his red ring become a darker character.

Sean Walsh

10-22-2009, 10:02 AM

ducklord

10-23-2009, 10:10 AM

I don't know if he'd be a big "villain", but I'm gonna go ahead and double down on my earlier prediction that Green Arrow will embrace his inner Robin Hood, and start officially "robbing from the rich and giving to the poor."

He won't go all bwah-ha-ha evil, but his attempts to bring economic vigilante justice (or, if you're of a Robinsonian bent, "JUSTICE!!!") to the downtrodden will put him on the wrong side of the law (which barely tolerates masked avengers as it is), the Justice League, and his wife.

Additionally, his antics will make life difficult for the rest of the masked community.

I want five internets if I turn out to be right,
Mike

Name Already Taken

10-23-2009, 09:23 PM

Dan DiDio writes himself in as a character with godlike editorial and continuity warping powers and retcon punches titles in and out of existence.

Bruce Wayne might also be a decent theory.

Slaughter

10-23-2009, 10:48 PM

Regarding Superman as a villain...he's the greatest hero no doubt, but as uber as he is I don't seem him as a real threat to the entire super-hero community. There are plenty of heroes who match, almost match, or overmatch him in power. A handful of heroes have very good chances taking him out solo. With all of them working in concert, I don't think he would stand much of a chance.

Written well, I think he could.

Supes is very powerful, but he's ins't just his power. Superman is very smart, intelligent and cunning. He also has incredible technology beyond anything on earth at his disposal. He's also a great leader, charismatic and persuasive.

If Supes one day decided to take over the world for our good, he would't just stand on the top of the tallest mountain he can think off and then shout "Get in line and take your best shot!" He would use all resources at his disposal. He could be stopped, but it would be HARD.

Remember what Black Adam did? Now think about that, except its being done by someone smarter, just as strong, better capable of containing his rage and with tactical wit. He also has immense technology and knowlodge of Earth's strongest heroes at his disposal.

Superman is to kryptonians what Batman is to humans.

show name

10-23-2009, 11:42 PM

Written well, I think he could.

Supes is very powerful, but he's ins't just his power. Superman is very smart, intelligent and cunning. He also has incredible technology beyond anything on earth at his disposal. He's also a great leader, charismatic and persuasive.

If Supes one day decided to take over the world for our good, he would't just stand on the top of the tallest mountain he can think off and then shout "Get in line and take your best shot!" He would use all resources at his disposal. He could be stopped, but it would be HARD.

Remember what Black Adam did? Now think about that, except its being done by someone smarter, just as strong, better capable of containing his rage and with tactical wit. He also has immense technology and knowlodge of Earth's strongest heroes at his disposal.

Superman is to kryptonians what Batman is to humans.

Okay, I pretty much agree with all you've said (although personally I didn't find Black Adam's WWIII single-handed pwning of the DC hero community to be that credible). A good writer who made the story more of a long stealth campaign aided with super Kryptonian tech as opposed to a straight duke-fest might be able to show Supes as being able to stave off the heroes for a fair amount of time. I think he would need to rely heavily on subterfuge and superior tech though, as he is outclassed in strategic and tactical skill by Batman (who presumably would be one of the leaders against him), and in terms of power he is utterly outmatched by the combined might of DC herodom. If he were to have any chance of winning it would be through some new uber-tech means, which is viable but not really in keeping with his character IMO.

Suicide Squad Fan

10-25-2009, 07:42 PM

In keeping with what they've done over the past few years, it'll be some supporting character who will suddenly become OOCly evil for No Reason Whatsoever and will be killed off within a year or three (see also Jean Loring, Maxwell Lord).
And please please PLEASE don't let it be Amanda Waller.....

Den

10-25-2009, 09:06 PM

A "good" guy (or girl) goes "bad"!?!

Wow... snore. Yet another page taken from the Comic Book Gimmicks Encyclopedia.

Pretty much sums up my feelings on the idea. Why on Earth do we need another 'fallen hero'? The idea isn't original or fresh anymore, and is usually out of character in a way that reeks of editorial bullying.

DeTroyes

10-25-2009, 09:53 PM

Dude has a time machine, but uses chalk and a blackboard to keep track of information?

That's just further proof that he's another Timelord in exile...

FeminineMystique

10-25-2009, 10:57 PM

bottlecityofkanga

11-09-2009, 04:29 PM

Maybe Mavis Trent from Hawkman will get Dr Light to rape one of the new JLA lot's mother and leave her in a fridge and hilarity will ensue...

TheCrisisKid

11-09-2009, 04:48 PM

Didn't the Blue Beetle find out that the Black Beetle (now Red Beetle, I think) is a future version of him?

The Black Beetle has a time machine and could mess up a lot of stuff.

Sizzle

11-09-2009, 05:00 PM

Ugh, they'll probably keep jobbing Tim Drake, and make him Ra's heir.

Shurato2099

11-09-2009, 05:51 PM

Based on Didio's 'Change, not for the better.' comment about Raven ... that's where I'm putting my money. My opinion on that, though is thus: do they -have- to drive a Titan evil every year and/or kill lots of them off with every event? They're the red-headed stepchildren of the DCU at this point.

titanfan

11-10-2009, 08:53 AM

Didn't the Blue Beetle find out that the Black Beetle (now Red Beetle, I think) is a future version of him?

Never saw him unmasked...

DeTroyes

11-10-2009, 09:28 AM

Based on Didio's 'Change, not for the better.' comment about Raven ... that's where I'm putting my money.

Regretfully, I think you may be right about this. *sigh* I really wish they'd let something good happen to that girl, for once. Though I suspect that if they do in fact go this route, Gar might end up going on a quest to "bring her back".

My opinion on that, though is thus: do they -have- to drive a Titan evil every year and/or kill lots of them off with every event? They're the red-headed stepchildren of the DCU at this point.

Agreed. This is becoming ridiculous.

brenticles

11-10-2009, 09:52 AM

This is the full quote from Dan Didio, from his feature on Newsarama:

"the person who might be deemed the next villain isn’t actually a villain just yet. - Dan Didio, from '10 Answers & One Question with DC's DAN DIDIO':

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091019-Didio-10-Questions.html

He says this will happen "by the end of next year".

It’s a pretty vague hint and could mean just about anything, but my first impression is “Oh no they are going to turn a hero eeevviiiill.” Which I’m very tired of and I think it’s pretty played out. I understand why they might do it because the potential of a compelling story is there. But it doesn’t seem to work out for the character in the long run. Look at Captain Atom, Obsidian, and Raven for just a few examples.

If this is a new character that was designed from the outset to be evil, I’m okay with that, but if this is a long-standing character that has been a hero, it will be a big mistake.

Shurato2099

11-10-2009, 07:57 PM

Regretfully, I think you may be right about this. *sigh* I really wish they'd let something good happen to that girl, for once. Though I suspect that if they do in fact go this route, Gar might end up going on a quest to "bring her back".

Agreed. This is becoming ridiculous.

Their treatment of the Titans as a whole has been ridiculous for some time now. Its gone from shocking, to annoying, to boring. My first thought these days when somebody even intimates something like this about a Titan is 'here we go again ... ' because I know that no matter how stupid the concept sounds it probably will be done and likely without any coherent foundation. If it's Raven I look to see her "Succumb to her Nature" yet again, at least as hard as when she went all Dark Raven on us back in the day, but with the Sin of Pride aspect this time rather than mucking about with Trigon Seeds. It'll get dragged out, possibly on the Mary Marvel time scale, before she's either cured or killed again.

DeTroyes

11-10-2009, 09:16 PM

Their treatment of the Titans as a whole has been ridiculous for some time now. Its gone from shocking, to annoying, to boring.

There are aspects to recent Titans that I've liked; the Gar/Raven subplot, for instance. But the problem has been that the whole has been so inconsistently executed that even when there are good ideas they often get lost in a miasma of wildly uneven writing and art. For instance, I thought that the whole recent story with Jericho had a lot of potential - it had all the elements of a good, pyschological thriller ala James Patterson, and could easily have been arranged as such with not many changes to the basic idea. But it was so poorly executed that what little excitement that could be scrounged up for it was lost amid tedious pacing, hackneyed dialogue, and lackluster art. In the end the only thing it did was to take a generally liked character and utterly destroy them, for little or no gain.

I have hopes that Raven won't be similarly destroyed; she, at least, is a much more popular character than Jericho, so I think she stands a much better chance at coming out of this in decent shape. But its just so frustrating that with all of the talent that DC has at their disposal, that this is the best they can come up with for these characters.

Shellhead

11-13-2009, 11:05 AM

I think Magog would be too obvious, so it must be someone else. Or at least I hope it is.

Didio is not a subtle guy.

The Chief5425

11-13-2009, 12:02 PM

Please let it be Magog. PleasepleasePLEASE let it be Magog. I don't care how subtle or obvious it is or isn't, I just want it to be Magog.

I want him to be a villain. Hell, he can be a recurring villain used reasonably often if they absolutely must, just make him into a villain. Make him into a character that a) won't be in every single issue of a comic book I care about (or could be made to care about--I'd probably give JSA All Stars a try if not for him), and, b) I won't have to try to muster up sympathy towards.

Please, Didio or whoever....VILLAINIZE MAGOG!!

Bevbos

11-13-2009, 12:51 PM

Vril Dox? It's a possibility...

InSovietRussia

11-13-2009, 12:57 PM

Vril Dox? It's a possibility...

So he takes over the Starro army? That'd certainly be in character, and I've heard about there being a Starro crossover even next year, so it'd be a good fit. Or could it be his kid?

Sean Walsh

11-13-2009, 03:28 PM

Shurato2099

11-13-2009, 03:42 PM

There are aspects to recent Titans that I've liked; the Gar/Raven subplot, for instance. But the problem has been that the whole has been so inconsistently executed that even when there are good ideas they often get lost in a miasma of wildly uneven writing and art. For instance, I thought that the whole recent story with Jericho had a lot of potential - it had all the elements of a good, pyschological thriller ala James Patterson, and could easily have been arranged as such with not many changes to the basic idea. But it was so poorly executed that what little excitement that could be scrounged up for it was lost amid tedious pacing, hackneyed dialogue, and lackluster art. In the end the only thing it did was to take a generally liked character and utterly destroy them, for little or no gain.

I have hopes that Raven won't be similarly destroyed; she, at least, is a much more popular character than Jericho, so I think she stands a much better chance at coming out of this in decent shape. But its just so frustrating that with all of the talent that DC has at their disposal, that this is the best they can come up with for these characters.

And I have hopes that you're right but, given the track record so far, I'm not holding my breath. Too much dark red in their palette these days for DC to paint even a vaguely hopeful way out of a situation like that.

Free-Man

11-15-2009, 12:17 PM

Could it be Connor Hawke? I remember last year that Didio said Conner would show up in a big role at some point. The cover for the final issue of Cry For Justice shows a blacked out archer. Could it be Connor, and they're blacking him out to avoid the surprise of showing him as a villain?
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