I was wondering...

[Godomon]

The Hellboy universe to me seems to draw a lot of stuff from Judeo-Christianity... I'm wondering if it's possible to see stuff from the other Abrahamic religion. I want to see how Mike would render an ifrit or maybe a marid...

[daveageallen]

The Hellboy universe to me seems to draw a lot of stuff from Judeo-Christianity... I'm wondering if it's possible to see stuff from the other Abrahamic religion. I want to see how Mike would render an ifrit or maybe a marid...

there are alot of slavic myths, lovecraftian fiction and almost all world mythology involved as well. he blends its very well to make it not a majority of one or the other

[Godomon]

there are alot of slavic myths, lovecraftian fiction and almost all world mythology involved as well. he blends its very well to make it not a majority of one or the otherOh yeah... Forgot about that.

But still... an ifrit....

[Godomon]

I sound like a douchebag...

I'm sorry for that.

[Jake Capps]

I sound like a douchebag...

I'm sorry for that.

Yep...just take it for what it is. There is a ton of stuff Hellboy hasn't got around to doing...Mazel Tov!

[daveageallen]

I sound like a douchebag...

I'm sorry for that.
haha no problem.

[Kees_L]

I sound like a douchebag...

I'm sorry for that.

Hah. I guess a 'real' douchebag wouldn't be saying that about themselves.

there are alot of slavic myths, lovecraftian fiction and almost all world mythology involved as well. he blends its very well to make it not a majority of one or the other

Yes, much agreed.

The Hellboy universe to me seems to draw a lot of stuff from Judeo-Christianity... I'm wondering if it's possible to see stuff from the other Abrahamic religion. I want to see how Mike would render an ifrit or maybe a marid...

Well Godomon, I'd say you use the word 'religion' here a little too loosely.
I suppose both mythology, religion and folklore draw on the same imagery, but such imagery needn't be religious in itself. Imagery such as good and evil, sacredness and sacrilege, divinity and monstrocity, saviour and demise, luck and misfortune, even gods and demons – to an extent.
One might consider mythology to be comprised of all known traditional religions, the dead or forgotten ones both as those still in use (with many if not most known religions being based on older ones).
But I would have to say a mythological account only becomes religious when a specific belief or favouring is being demanded. In either folklore or mythology there doesn’t seem to be much of that.
Mythology is like a scientific research after the whole of known religions, legends and myths.
Folklore is to my knowledge mostly specified as 'told, passed on via word-of-mouth' as in 'lore which folk speak of’ (outside church rather than inside). Where a religious text will demand some specific belief or favouring, folklore seems (uniformly and universally) more succinct or blunt, as if telling it straight without offering much added solace, reason or explanation.
Folklore might have long been regarded as how commoners perceive the world, offering religious scholars or clergymen strong indications of what a religion should sound or look like, in order to be understood or become succesful.
Fairy-tales are stories based on folklore but reworked by professional writers, whereas folklore serves more as a set of accounts on how stuff got told among people.
So, all in all, for my money, lots of the stuff which Hellboy draws from will be folklore, or either mythology, but hardly religion.

[Godomon]

Yep...just take it for what it is. There is a ton of stuff Hellboy hasn't got around to doing...Mazel Tov!

Mazel Tov means good luck right? Thanks I guess... I need all the luck I can have right now...

Well Godomon, I'd say you use the word 'religion' here a little too loosely.
I suppose both mythology, religion and folklore draw on the same imagery, but such imagery needn't be religious in itself. Imagery such as good and evil, sacredness and sacrilege, divinity and monstrocity, saviour and demise, luck and misfortune, even gods and demons – to an extent.
One might consider mythology to be comprised of all known traditional religions, the dead or forgotten ones both as those still in use (with many if not most known religions being based on older ones).
But I would have to say a mythological account only becomes religious when a specific belief or favouring is being demanded. In either folklore or mythology there doesn’t seem to be much of that.
Mythology is like a scientific research after the whole of known religions, legends and myths.
Folklore is to my knowledge mostly specified as 'told, passed on via word-of-mouth' as in 'lore which folk speak of’ (outside church rather than inside). Where a religious text will demand some specific belief or favouring, folklore seems (uniformly and universally) more succinct or blunt, as if telling it straight without offering much added solace, reason or explanation.
Folklore might have long been regarded as how commoners perceive the world, offering religious scholars or clergymen strong indications of what a religion should sound or look like, in order to be understood or become succesful.
Fairy-tales are stories based on folklore but reworked by professional writers, whereas folklore serves more as a set of accounts on how stuff got told among people.
So, all in all, for my money, lots of the stuff which Hellboy draws from will be folklore, or either mythology, but hardly religion.
Ah yeah... I'm always get mixed up when trying to define them. Thanks for clearing that up :smile: