So Favreau a no go on Avengers

[lead sharp]

Well fair enough, who would you get to direct?

Also the whole thing about mixing Thor and Iron Man (magic and science) baffles me. It works so well in the comics because it's just done. No big explanation, no shoe horning it's just 'here's Iron Man, there's Thor and off you go.

I really think this would work in the film for two reasons. 1. It just would, there's no reason for it not to. In the comics you sometimes get Iron Man going 'Hate magic' or going wow over something Thor's done and it's been suggested for a long time that the Asgardians are just so far advanced their technology just seems like magic. Bring that to the movie but don't make a big point of it and off you go.

2. Look at Spider Man 3. Now as bad as it was it did do something the first two didn't, it had super powered villains (with significantly different powers). You could wrap your head around the technological and enhanced Doc' Ock' and Green Goblin but Sandman and Venom are radically different and despite there being badly handled didn't in all fairness seem out of place.

People will accept it, it's The Avengers it's not hard just go with it.

[Rev. Calibos]

Well fair enough, who would you get to direct?

Also the whole thing about mixing Thor and Iron Man (magic and science) baffles me. It works so well in the comics because it's just done. No big explanation, no shoe horning it's just 'here's Iron Man, there's Thor and off you go.

I really think this would work in the film for two reasons. 1. It just would, there's no reason for it not to. In the comics you sometimes get Iron Man going 'Hate magic' or going wow over something Thor's done and it's been suggested for a long time that the Asgardians are just so far advanced their technology just seems like magic. Bring that to the movie but don't make a big point of it and off you go.

2. Look at Spider Man 3. Now as bad as it was it did do something the first two didn't, it had super powered villains (with significantly different powers). You could wrap your head around the technological and enhanced Doc' Ock' and Green Goblin but Sandman and Venom are radically different and despite there being badly handled didn't in all fairness seem out of place.

People will accept it, it's The Avengers it's not hard just go with it.



I think that most of the audience (the vast majority of which who will have no idea of the history between these characters) will be just thrilled with the concept of the Hulk and Iron Man being on screen together.

If they're able to put together decent Cap and Thor films, if Iron Man 2 and the Hulk sequel (which I heard may have been shelved) do as well as the first offerings we'll have four franchises that will come together for the Avengers film.

So to us as comic fans it's old hat. It's just a given that Spider-Man who swings around Manhattan will rub elbows with Dr. Strange, Earth's Sorcerer Supreme and defender against all sorts of Magical nastiness and then perhaps in the same adventure run into the Guardians of the Galaxy, freedom fighters from the war torn 30th century.

For us it's a case of just throwing them together for a great adventure and off we go, but to a movie audience unaccustomed to such concepts it's going to be a refreshing concept.

They've never seen a film where John McClane teams up with Jack Ryan to stop terrorists from blowing up a national monument.

They've never considered how awesome it would be to have Indiana Jones enter an Egyptian tomb only to discover and then (accidentally) activate a Terminator who overshot the mark and had to hibernate until which time it would awaken.

They've never thought of the USS Enterprise away team landing on a planet and making a mysterious discovery causing Lt. Data to report back that they'd '...found a large ring composed of what appears to be naqahdah....'

A crossover film like the Avengers would give movie goers the chance to discover something that we've known for years now: Taking established characters and teaming them up = Awesomeness.

[Superbeast]

LeTerrier said he'd be up for the task if Favs passed on it, if he can pull off Cash Of The Titans next year he'll certainly be right in line to get the post.

[Jmacq1]

LeTerrier said he'd be up for the task if Favs passed on it, if he can pull off Cash Of The Titans next year he'll certainly be right in line to get the post.

Maybe, but Marvel's been pretty surprising with their director choices. I imagine they might get someone a little higher-profile. Maybe.

Then again, I doubt they'll go quite so far as to grab a Director that's an industry in and of themselves (Spielberg et al...)

[lead sharp]

Totally agree with both posts. I did once write a fan fic STNG meets Hellraiser, imagine the Borg cube doing the Lamont configuration...

Anyhoo I do think that Jon is right to pull out if he feels he can't pull it off, rather a director who admits it's a bit much than one who tries and fails to deliver (purely for understandable reasons, to him it's just a weird thing).

Looking forward to Clash that's an epic that needed a polish if any did.

NOT Bryan Singer also not Johnathan Frakes both of whom have handled ensemble pieces before but their style is lacking somewhat.

Oh and it may well be Joe Johnston, but how about Peter Jackson?

[Surtur]

Are you saying Favreau did pass on the movie, or is this just a "what if?" type thread?

[LordEd1976]

Are you saying Favreau did pass on the movie, or is this just a "what if?" type thread?

This is real. Favreau said he'd executive produce but was unavailiable to direct.

[hoffmandu]

Totally agree with both posts. I did once write a fan fic STNG meets Hellraiser, imagine the Borg cube doing the Lamont configuration...

Anyhoo I do think that Jon is right to pull out if he feels he can't pull it off, rather a director who admits it's a bit much than one who tries and fails to deliver (purely for understandable reasons, to him it's just a weird thing).

Looking forward to Clash that's an epic that needed a polish if any did.

NOT Bryan Singer also not Johnathan Frakes both of whom have handled ensemble pieces before but their style is lacking somewhat.

Oh and it may well be Joe Johnston, but how about Peter Jackson?


No Singer? Are you not a fan of X and x2? I thought he pulled it together pretty well. In fact, it may be because of him that the "Team" comics to film even exists.

[comicsmetal]

No Singer? Are you not a fan of X and x2? I thought he pulled it together pretty well. In fact, it may be because of him that the "Team" comics to film even exists.

:biggrin: I think we can not get Superman Returns off our mouths.

[Phil Clark]

I find it interesting that he cannot reconcile Thor and IM in the same movie, but will probably HAVE to use the Mandarin, which will present the same problem for him.

Maybe if he saw a script and saw how it was just treated as a non-issue he might change his mind. I really think Favreau might be the best candidate for the job, since there is no chance that Jim Cameron or Steven Spielberg would take on the project.

[lead sharp]

No Singer? Are you not a fan of X and x2? I thought he pulled it together pretty well. In fact, it may be because of him that the "Team" comics to film even exists.

I love X1 and X2 But...

Even though when the action was there it wasn't what I would want to see in an Avengers movie. The less said about Superman Returns the better really.

The X-Men are a different animal to the Avengers that frankly require far less subtlety and a lot more oomph than I feel Singer could bring to it. X-Men is about family Avengers, kicking bottom.

Although you have just made me think... Singer on the screenplay, Bay on the direction? Weta on the effects?

[Jared]

If Michael Bay could be convinced/forced to tone down the Michael Bayness in his movies in service of the story, he'd actually be a great choice. But given his Transformers success, I doubt that's possible right now. Still, if the story is anything like The Ultimates, he's the guy who could undoubtedly get a grasp on the scope of it.

I'd really like to see how the guy who directed District 9 handles a balls-out action flick. D9 was not without a sense of humor, something which could carry over well given the presence of Downey's Iron Man and a blonde viking.

[Tobias March]

I'd really like to see how the guy who directed District 9 handles a balls-out action flick. D9 was not without a sense of humor, something which could carry over well given the presence of Downey's Iron Man and a blonde viking.

No, keep Blomkamp sweet, the Halo debacle almost prevented his career from taking off.

Let him continue taking Jackson's money and make interesting original pictures.

Here's a notion though....Edgar Wright?

[Weapon Ick]

The director should be someone that works well with a large group of A-listers. As it stands right now the Avengers film will potentially star:

Robert Downey jr
Ed Norton
Gwenneth Paltrow
Scarlet Johanson
Don Cheadle
Natalie Portman
Samuel L. Jackson
Liv Tyler
and maybe some others I can't remember atm.

After paying their salaries there won't be any money left for special effects :smile:
So who directed those Oceans 11 movies? Cause off the top of my head that's the only film that stars such a heavy amount of A-list oscar-type actors.

[Jared]

I'm pretty sure Ed Norton won't be coming back.

[Hoss]

Go for a good TV show runner who knows how to handle alot of moving parts... Get Eric Kripke or Ronald D. Moore or even Michael Rymer.

[LordEd1976]

The director should be someone that works well with a large group of A-listers. As it stands right now the Avengers film will potentially star:

Robert Downey jr
Ed Norton
Gwenneth Paltrow
Scarlet Johanson
Don Cheadle
Natalie Portman
Samuel L. Jackson
Liv Tyler
and maybe some others I can't remember atm.

After paying their salaries there won't be any money left for special effects :smile:
So who directed those Oceans 11 movies? Cause off the top of my head that's the only film that stars such a heavy amount of A-list oscar-type actors.

Ed Norton apparently won't be back. If so I think its safe to live Tyler won't be involved. Also, even if Thor is in the Avengers I don't think they need to have Jan Foster (the role Portman is playing.) Paltrow is not needed either though maybe they could have a small cameo.

[StoneGold]

I'm pretty sure Ed Norton won't be coming back.

As of a couple weeks ago...

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/09/23/exclusive-ed-norton-likes-the-idea-of-hulk-as-avengers-villain/

So Norton might be in.

In any event, Leterrier might be better for an Avengers Movie than Favs. Although I liked Iron Man better as a movie, I thought Hulk had better action beats.

[Superbeast]

I think Norton's issues lie with having script approval and a hand in the editing of the film which is where the problem regarding the Incredible Hulk film arose from, Norton wasn't happy with the difference between the final director's cut and the studio theatrical cut and didn't want to promote a film he felt differed from the original vision depicted in the director's cut. Norton only wants to be in good movies that are good in his opinion and up to his personal standard. He obviously is interested in the Hulk property given the work he put in to try ensure it was up to snuff but obviously wants to protect his career and creative credibility also.

Scarlett is only getting I think 800, 000 dollars for her role in IM2 up front, she can earn more if the movie is successful but I think only Downey Jr and Sam Jackson have the big money contracts on IM2.

If they keep the team to say Thor, Iron Man, Cap, Giant-Man, Wasp, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Fury as goverment liaison (I believe Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are off the table as Fox owns the X-Men rights and their names were featured in X2) and the rumour about the draft scripts being based on Ultimates Vol 1 with SHIELD investigating missing resources from government facilities leading to an internal conspiracy, with Hulk locked up as a bio weapon that is then released to distract the team while the Triskelion is looted, it could work out. Have Mark Millar and Norton each take a pass at the material to polish it up and rope in LeTerrier who already expressed interest in the project or Doug Liman who has shown he can juggle A list egos and still make a fun, entertaining action movie with hints of humour (Mr And Mrs Smith, Bourne Identity), throw in some explosions and we got ourselves a blockbuster.

[Superbeast]

The director should be someone that works well with a large group of A-listers. As it stands right now the Avengers film will potentially star:

Robert Downey jr
Ed Norton
Gwenneth Paltrow
Scarlet Johanson
Don Cheadle
Natalie Portman
Samuel L. Jackson
Liv Tyler
and maybe some others I can't remember atm.

After paying their salaries there won't be any money left for special effects :smile:
So who directed those Oceans 11 movies? Cause off the top of my head that's the only film that stars such a heavy amount of A-list oscar-type actors.

Steven Soderbergh but he's looking to direct a movie with Gina Carano as the star next. To be fair only Downey Jr and Jackson are essential on that list. Norton would be a bonus but if not, they've still got the CGI for the Hulk they can wipe the mothballs off of.

[Red Lotus]

The director should be someone that works well with a large group of A-listers. As it stands right now the Avengers film will potentially star:

Robert Downey jr
Ed Norton
Gwenneth Paltrow
Scarlet Johanson
Don Cheadle
Natalie Portman
Samuel L. Jackson
Liv Tyler
and maybe some others I can't remember atm.

After paying their salaries there won't be any money left for special effects :smile:
So who directed those Oceans 11 movies? Cause off the top of my head that's the only film that stars such a heavy amount of A-list oscar-type actors.


Just three of them are really needed for the film. The others would be just a small cameo.


As of a couple weeks ago...

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/09/23/exclusive-ed-norton-likes-the-idea-of-hulk-as-avengers-villain/

So Norton might be in.

In any event, Leterrier might be better for an Avengers Movie than Favs. Although I liked Iron Man better as a movie, I thought Hulk had better action beats.

There was alot of talk about using the Hulk, but not using Norton and that Banner wouldn't be in the film.