Catwoman Returns! (sort of)

[catsmeow]

Catwoman #83 will hit stands in January 2010 (yep, you read that right).

Catwoman is one of several dead series being resurrected as a Blackest Night tie-in during that story's one-month hiatus. Fabian Nicieza is writing.

The Black Lantern she'll be interacting with is
Black Mask!



http://www.newsarama.com/comics/0910...ad-titles.html

[Captain Jim]

Specifically we're talking about the original Black Mask, the one she killed.

Sounds interesting, especially since Fabian's writing it. I will probably pick it up.

[catsmeow]

I hope Jim Balent is drawing it. He's the first artist that comes to mind when I think Catwoman.

[Captain Jim]

Seems unlikely. He never had anything to do with this incarnation of CW and hasn't done any DC work for a long time.

[CYOTI]

Hope it's David Lopez.

[ryerye17]

I love Catwoman.

Why did they cancel her on-going again?

[Sn4tcH]

I really liked Catwoman as well, and this sounds awesome. I get Catwoman back AND the return of one of my favorite villains.

[catsmeow]

Hope it's David Lopez.

I hope not. He's not high-profile enough. If not Balent, maybe Darwyn Cooke?

Why did they cancel her on-going again?

Low sales.

[SpideyZERO]

I thought Catwoman already has Gotham City Sirens?

[nepenthes]

^ but this is a Blackest night tie in. It's a different story. Just like we have the Batman Blackest Night mini

I'll definitly check this out. Fabien Nicieza, Catwoman VS Roman, that's gonna be alright

[CYOTI]

I hope not. He's not high-profile enough. Lopez was the regular artist on Catwoman, he is pretty much the most logical choice and this project isn't exactly the most high profile thing ever.

[The Batman]

I hope not. He's not high-profile enough. If not Balent, maybe Darwyn Cooke?


Cooke would be beyond awesome. It's not going to be Cooke.

I remember liking Lopez's art and would be more than happy to see him return.

[jgiannantoni05]

I'm excited for Black Lantern Black Mask!

Here is the lineup for the skip month:

- The Power of Shazam! #48 (not much said on plot)
- The Question #37 (BL Question vs Question) by Rucka
- Suicide Squad #67 (BL Suicide Squad vs Secret Six) by Ostrander
- Phantom Stranger #42 (ties up stuff from BL Batman) by Tomasi
- Catwoman #83 (BL Black Mask vs Catwoman)
- The Atom and Hawkman #46 (BL Hawks & BL Loring vs Ray) by Geoff Johns
- Weird Western Tales #71 (BL Jonah, BL Bat Lash, BL Super Chief, etc) by Didio
- Starman #81 (BL Starman, no Jack Knight) by Robinson

[Pixie_Solanas]

I hope not. He's not high-profile enough. If not Balent, maybe Darwyn Cooke?



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Hope not. Cooke drew Selina like some old broad.

Frankly, Lopez' rendition was pitch perfect.

[CYOTI]

Power of Shazama - Ordway??
Phantom Strange - Mandrake?
Starman - Pete Snejbjerg ??
Question - Diego Olmos or Manual Garcia??
Suicide Squad - ??
Weird West Tales-??
Catwoman - David Lopez??

Atom/Hawkman - Ryan Sook (confirmed by Johns)

[The Batman]

Ordway seems an obvious choice for Shazam. I'd be surprised to not see it go to him.

I'm wondering if they'll give Weird Western Tales to one of the art teams from the Jonah Hex book.

[CYOTI]

I think that would be a given, but Jonah Hex has had quite a long list of artists.

[Sean Whitmore]

Y'know, until this thread, I had no idea that the Black Mask currently running around isn't the original.

Were we supposed to be able to figure that out on our own? I mean, other than just assuming they wouldn't resurrect the dead one?


SEAN

[nepenthes]

- The Question #37 (BL Question vs Question) by Rucka
- Suicide Squad #67 (BL Suicide Squad vs Secret Six) by Ostrander
- Phantom Stranger #42 (ties up stuff from BL Batman) by Tomasi
- Catwoman #83 (BL Black Mask vs Catwoman)

interesting

this is a great idea for a tie-in. "dead titles" ha ha

[Sean Whitmore]

- The Question #37 (BL Question vs Question) by Rucka
- Suicide Squad #67 (BL Suicide Squad vs Secret Six) by Ostrander
- Phantom Stranger #42 (ties up stuff from BL Batman) by Tomasi
- Catwoman #83 (BL Black Mask vs Catwoman)

interesting

this is a great idea for a tie-in. "dead titles" ha ha

That is pretty cute. The most innovative idea to come out of this story, really.


SEAN

[CYOTI]

Y'know, until this thread, I had no idea that the Black Mask currently running around isn't the original.

Were we supposed to be able to figure that out on our own? I mean, other than just assuming they wouldn't resurrect the dead one?


SEANThe new one is black. The old one was white.

[The Batman]

I think that would be a given, but Jonah Hex has had quite a long list of artists.

Yeah, I was thinking that Cristiano Cucina's art might be a good fit for what might be a spookier book.

[Sean Whitmore]

The new one is black. The old one was white.

We've seen his skin?

My memory is a sieve.


SEAN

[CYOTI]

Also whoever is doing Weird West has to be good with drawing superheroes.

I'm mystified still on who is drawing Suicide Squad unlike the others, the artists most associated with Simone are all mostly doing WW work and I dont think Ostrander is associated with any artist at DC possibly aside from Mandrake who I think is more likely doing PS given his past work on Spectre.

[jgiannantoni05]

Were we supposed to be able to figure that out on our own?
Tony Daniel said in an interview that the Black Mask we were seeing BFTC is not Roman Sionis.

[CYOTI]

Yeah that was a given since Catwoman blew out the guy's brains.

[Sean Whitmore]

Tony Daniel said in an interview that the Black Mask we were seeing BFTC is not Roman Sionis.

Did he write anything in the comic to that effect?


Yeah that was a given since Catwoman blew out the guy's brains.

In between resurrections and writers who simply ignore other writers' work, it was in no way, shape, or form a given.


SEAN

[jgiannantoni05]

Did he write anything in the comic to that effect?
Nope, had to read that interview.

Shouldn't matter. DC figures if you didn't know then, then this Catwoman issue will clue you in.

[Sean Whitmore]

Nope, had to read that interview.

Shouldn't matter. DC figures if you didn't know then, then this Catwoman issue will clue you in.

Heh. Well, they were right about that much.


SEAN

[carabas]

Hope not. Cooke drew Selina like some old broad.He drew her as someon who has moved beyond teenager/early twenties. Which would be appropriate, considering she's in Bruce Wayne's age cathegory.

[DarkKnghtJared]

Cool. I'll probably pick this and Question up. :D

[Sn4tcH]

In between resurrections and writers who simply ignore other writers' work, it was in no way, shape, or form a given

All things considered, it wasn't even the first time he "died" in Catwoman...

[Matt]

The idea of a Black Lantern Jonah Hex ... whoa.

[AJM]

Hope not. Cooke drew Selina like some old broad.

No, he drew her like a woman, which she is.

Cooke (and Brubaker) was absolutely instrumental in Catwoman's success and updating the character for the modern age.

[catsmeow]

Lopez was the regular artist on Catwoman, he is pretty much the most logical choice and this project isn't exactly the most high profile thing ever.

There were several regular artists on Catwoman. He was merely the last one.

[catsmeow]

Tony Daniel said in an interview that the Black Mask we were seeing BFTC is not Roman Sionis.

That's true, but there's been nothing in story indicating he's new.

[DetectiveDupin]

I'll probably pick this up. It sounds good.

[Brack360]

Good news. As for the artist, Darwyn Cooke and Cameron Stewart seem to be unlikely choices, so I would like to see either Pete Woods or David Lopez. Woods had a great run on Catwoman that was cut too short, and he is a logical choice given that he illustrated the story arc where Selina kills Black Mask.

[Pixie_Solanas]

No, he drew her like a woman, which she is.

Cooke (and Brubaker) was absolutely instrumental in Catwoman's success and updating the character for the modern age.

A woman of menopause, sure. The age makes that ridiculous pleather one-piece even more jarring.

Pete Woods and David Lopez were better for the character. But Cooke's a sacred cow with his cornball retro style. If I wanted to see some Dick Tracy styling, i'd go read a Dick Tracy strip.

[catsmeow]

Good news. As for the artist, Darwyn Cooke and Cameron Stewart seem to be unlikely choices, so I would like to see either Pete Woods or David Lopez. Woods had a great run on Catwoman that was cut too short, and he is a logical choice given that he illustrated the story arc where Selina kills Black Mask.

I was just going to suggest Pete as well. If not Jim Balent, then Pete!

[Godlike13]

I think this is really cool.

[Mia]

Catwoman #83 will hit stands in January 2010 (yep, you read that right).

Specifically we're talking about the original Black Mask, the one she killed.

Sounds interesting, especially since Fabian's writing it. I will probably pick it up.

OOOHHH! This is the best news I've heard all day! (and to think I was praying only an hour before). I am so happy. But what makes me even happier is the fact that they are just picking up from where they left off, as opposed to some silly reboot! Nice to see that Fabian on the book.

[Godlike13]

I am so happy. But what makes me even happier is the fact that they are just picking up from where they left off, as opposed to some silly reboot! Nice to see that Fabian on the book.

Not exactly. "Even though these stories are picking up from a numbering of a canceled series, are actually taking place right now in today's continuity, and are completely tied to Blackest Night. They are our Blackest Night event books, but we're just returning the titles from the dead. So, we're not exactly picking up where the stories left off; we're actually picking up right in the middle of the action of Blackest Night".

Still cool though.

[AJM]

A woman of menopause, sure. The age makes that ridiculous pleather one-piece even more jarring.

What on earth are you talking about? Have you even seen Cooke's Catwoman? How can you say that this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Rf9S3GkkeyI/SgmFNk_uqpI/AAAAAAAAQWw/b66VE6sE9N4/s400/darwyn+cooke.+catwoman.+001.jpg

looks like a menopausal woman?

Pete Woods and David Lopez were better for the character. But Cooke's a sacred cow with his cornball retro style. If I wanted to see some Dick Tracy styling, i'd go read a Dick Tracy strip.

I don't think you've really understood the early Catwoman stories. Cooke's retro, 'Dick Tracy' style was entirely deliberate and a great choice to match the tone of Brubaker's crime fiction-inspired tales. He even had a Dick Tracy character in the shape of Slam Bradley. If you don't like it, fair enough, but Cooke got the job because he was perfect for the tone.

And didn't he design the new costume too? Surely that's worth some of your respect?

[catsmeow]

And didn't he design the new costume too? Surely that's worth some of your respect?

Not the poster you're talking to, but I've never liked Cooke's Catsuit. I had hoped we'd get a new one for Sirens.

[AJM]

Not the poster you're talking to, but I've never liked Cooke's Catsuit. I had hoped we'd get a new one for Sirens.

Really? I love it! Cameron Stewart drew it beautifully too.

[Sn4tcH]

Are we talking the black leather and the goggles and all that?

So much better than the purple suit or gray suit.

And a MILLION times better than the purple suit that had her hair hanging out.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Are we talking the black leather and the goggles and all that?

So much better than the purple suit or gray suit.

And a MILLION times better than the purple suit that had her hair hanging out.

Oh no. The grey suit had it all over the tacky moto boots and pleather. ALL OVER.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Wh

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Rf9S3GkkeyI/SgmFNk_uqpI/AAAAAAAAQWw/b66VE6sE9N4/s400/darwyn+cooke.+catwoman.+001.jpg

looks like a menopausal woman?



She definitely looks more "vintage" (read: old) than the other artists tend to depict Selina. Don't like it.

[chipsnopotatoes]

She definitely looks more "vintage" (read: old) than the other artists tend to depict Selina. Don't like it.

I concur. And i was hoping for a new look too. Those goggles are the ugliest things. Only two artists have drawn them stylishly. Jim Lee and Guillem March

[catsmeow]

Jim Balent's purple catsuit with the hair is the DEFINITIVE Catwoman costume. Love everything about it.

Her classic Year One grey catsuit is also fantastic, along with its purple variations (see: The Long Halloween).

The Tim Sale design she wore briefly in When in Rome is also pretty good.

Cooke's redesign is too bulky and unflattering. It's not so much the costume as it is the awful goggles. They make her look like "Mouse-Woman". (Read Catwoman Volume One #28-30). I wish they'd ditch the current look and go for something similar to Michelle Pfeiffer's costume. Now that was a good catsuit.

[MTL76]

What on earth are you talking about? Have you even seen Cooke's Catwoman? How can you say that this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Rf9S3GkkeyI/SgmFNk_uqpI/AAAAAAAAQWw/b66VE6sE9N4/s400/darwyn+cooke.+catwoman.+001.jpg

looks like a menopausal woman?


That's my favorite look for Catwoman, goggles and all, far more than the purple jumpsuit/long hair "classic" version. It just looks more... realistic and bad-ass, the purple one is too chessecake for me.

I'm really looking forward to this, the Bat line up keeps getting better (even if this is only for one issue...)

[catsmeow]

The only artist who's been able to make the Cooke design look good is Jim Lee.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I'm excited for Black Lantern Black Mask!

Here is the lineup for the skip month:

- The Power of Shazam! #48 (not much said on plot)
- The Question #37 (BL Question vs Question) by Rucka
- Suicide Squad #67 (BL Suicide Squad vs Secret Six) by Ostrander
- Phantom Stranger #42 (ties up stuff from BL Batman) by Tomasi
- Catwoman #83 (BL Black Mask vs Catwoman)
- The Atom and Hawkman #46 (BL Hawks & BL Loring vs Ray) by Geoff Johns
- Weird Western Tales #71 (BL Jonah, BL Bat Lash, BL Super Chief, etc) by Didio
- Starman #81 (BL Starman, no Jack Knight) by Robinson

I'll get Sucide Squad #67 , Phantom Stranger #42 , Atom & Hawkman #46 , and Weird Western Tales #71. This sounds ****ing awesome...

[Captain Jim]

Good news. As for the artist, Darwyn Cooke and Cameron Stewart seem to be unlikely choices, so I would like to see either Pete Woods or David Lopez. Woods had a great run on Catwoman that was cut too short, and he is a logical choice given that he illustrated the story arc where Selina kills Black Mask.

I doubt it will be Woods. He seems to be a one book/ month guy, and at the moment, he's busy with World of New Krypton.

OOOHHH! This is the best news I've heard all day! (and to think I was praying only an hour before). I am so happy. But what makes me even happier is the fact that they are just picking up from where they left off, as opposed to some silly reboot! Nice to see that Fabian on the book.

You did get that this is just a one-shot, right?

[catsmeow]

Julian Lopez is drawing this issue, and Guillem March is doing the cover.

Julian Lopez drew a nice Catwoman in the first two issues of Batman and the Outsiders.

http://comics.ign.com/articles/103/1035721p1.html

[Rampantlad]

This is by far the most exciting upcoming book in all of BN, and that's saying something. Selina has always been my favourite DC character and I'm so glad she\'s getting a slight reprieve in her own book, especially considering the horrific mauling she's receiving at the hands of the apparently lobotomised Dini over in GCS.

Coming face to face with her one murder victim should be supremely powerful stuff. I'm glad Fabian is handling it - I hope it will be more psychological and less with the zombie action stuff! Even more enthralling with Batman one of the few people who knew) being dead, and having actually killed someone himself now. It makes his revelation to her that he knew, didn't approve, but understood, even more poignant.

I am so hoping this sells bucket loads and prompts the return of her own series - picking up same numbering. End this silly GCS crap with Guillem's awful cartoon art and Dini's awful cartoon writing.

[Rampantlad]

Also, not a huge fan of the current suit, though Lopez and Lee do it well. I am a sucker for the purple suit with hair out - that's h wo it all started for Selina's solo show after all. Favourite old school cover was her aborted Moldavian wedding fiasco a la Dynasty!!!

[Alexx1]

This is by far the most exciting upcoming book in all of BN, and that's saying something. Selina has always been my favourite DC character and I'm so glad she\'s getting a slight reprieve in her own book, especially considering the horrific mauling she's receiving at the hands of the apparently lobotomised Dini over in GCS.

Coming face to face with her one murder victim should be supremely powerful stuff. I'm glad Fabian is handling it - I hope it will be more psychological and less with the zombie action stuff! Even more enthralling with Batman one of the few people who knew) being dead, and having actually killed someone himself now. It makes his revelation to her that he knew, didn't approve, but understood, even more poignant.

I am so hoping this sells bucket loads and prompts the return of her own series - picking up same numbering. End this silly GCS crap with Guillem's awful cartoon art and Dini's awful cartoon writing.

I don't plan to check out too many of the BN books. Probably the BN:WW bc of the art, BN: Suicide Squad/SS, and this one for sure. It would be so cool if this book helps relaunch Catwoman's solo. I've put the disappointment of Fabian's Network one shot behind me, I'm still a fan of his work and I really hope he gets this chick right! I thought for sure he'd nail The Network one. Anyway, just nice to see Fabian writing another story. Hopefully's he's had some time to PLAN a good story for Selina.

I think Catwoman's one of the best characters out there and have missed her solo even though I hadn't enjoyed it for some time. Not a fan of David Lopez's Catwoman. I thought she was very unattractive, ugly even and come on Selina is like probably top two, three in terms of lookers in the DCU. She should always be beautiful. I like Julian Lopez's art so that might work. I still think Jim Lee's Catwoman has been the most beautiful. Tony Daniel's is catching up quickly though. I don't forseee Sirens lasting past a year. Hopefully they'll bring Catwoman's solo back!

[chipsnopotatoes]

I still think Jim Lee's Catwoman has been the most beautiful. Tony Daniel's is catching up quickly though.

I'd add Guillem March on that list too. He and Jim are the only two artists who've drawn those dreadful goggles so they look stylish; other artists draw them like she was going swimming or something.

[Tweedsuitcase]

big catwoman fan. have to chime in on the suit issue. i really love the Cooke suite, but i agree that only few draw it well. In her 2000's series there are some really bad panels of her in that suit to the point of distraction.

since there's tons of catwoman fans in this thread, i've been wanting to ask, as i am reading that series now...does one year later completely derail the series? i'm almost to that point, and am enjoying it more now that pfeifer has started his run. the war games crossover completely jarred the run out of what it was doing...

[Godlike13]

"Does one year later completely derail the series?"

"completely" I wanna say no, but it didn't help. A couple books lost their magic after OYL, and sadly Catwomen was one of them IMO.

[carabas]

The baby was a really really bad idea. But IMO the series was derrailed earlier with the revelation that Zatanna had mindzapped Selina into becoming a good(ish) girl to keep Batman happy.