Earth 2 Batman

[Flash's Lightning]

I don't know much about the E2 Batman. Was there a large difference between E1 and E2 Batman? Or the current New Earth Batman? (Bruce, not Dick obviously.)

And should he return like E2 Superman?

[ryerye17]

He's dead. He was dead long before COIE.

He married Catwoman and they had Helena Wayne (the original Huntress).

IIRC, he became Commissioner? (Or is that Owlman's dad)

[Flash's Lightning]

He's dead. He was dead long before COIE.

He married Catwoman and they had Helena Wayne (the original Huntress).

IIRC, he became Commissioner? (Or is that Owlman's dad)

Black ring, then?

[Infinity Man]

And should he return like E2 Superman?

I can't really answer the first part of your question because I am not overly familiar with Silver Age or Golden Age stuff , but this part I can.

If you are referring to E2 Superman's Blackest Night appearance (which is to my knowledge all you really could be referring to), no, E2 Batman should not come back. The reason being is that E2 Superman was not caught in the dimensional collapse of the Multiverse in COIE. He survived that, and along side his Lois, Superboy-Prime, and E3 Alexander Luthor Jr. went to the "paradise realm," and returned to the New Earth universe during Infinite Crisis. That is when he died, in IF, in the NE universe, and that is why he could be resurrected in Blackest Night. E2 Batman never made it into the NE universe, so it's as if he never existed, except in the memories of the few E2 beings still in existence.

[WorstThingUS]

Black ring, then?

Nope. His body's on E2, though strangely his ghost showed up on E1.

But differences are:

Thomas Wayne wore a Bat-type costume which served to inspire him.
He was in fact the first Robin
He eventually became police commissioner (it's comics, roll with it)
And smiled a lot more and cooperated with the police.

[Mister Intensity]

Thomas Wayne wore a Bat-type costume which served to inspire him.
He was in fact the first Robin


Actually that was the Earth One Batman. Neither of those events involved the Earth Two Batman.

[CBikle]

Just my opinion, but I think the Earth 2 Batman was more well-adjusted and was much more cheerful and was an honored international lawman.

Early on, he was comfortable using a gun and killing criminals (he snapped a thug's neck with a single kick), but as the 1940's started, he mellowed out a lot (Robin probably had a lot to do with that).

If I had to peg where the transition from E2 to E1 happened, I'd guess it was the last issues done by Dick Sprang (around the early 60's I think) with the E1 Batman sharing some of the same history.

[numberONE]

Thomas Wayne wore a Bat-type costume which served to inspire him.


In Morrison's Batman, this is part of the mainstream continuity, I believe.

[Flash's Lightning]

Wow, that is some confusing stuff. Especially considering a lot of the pre-crisis stuff is supposed to be post-crisis new earth Batman history.

I feel a headache coming on.

[Hullababy]

Wow, that is some confusing stuff. Especially considering a lot of the pre-crisis stuff is supposed to be post-crisis new earth Batman history.

I feel a headache coming on.

There has been one Batman whose books have been published regularly since 1939. Over the years, some stuff has been retconned in and some stuff has been retconned out and out and in and in and out again. The earth 2 batman is just someone who shares Batman's golden age history.

[Flash's Lightning]

There has been one Batman whose books have been published regularly since 1939. Over the years, some stuff has been retconned in and some stuff has been retconned out and out and in and in and out again. The earth 2 batman is just someone who shares Batman's golden age history.

Yeah, I get the basics. It's the in and out and out and in that lends me a headache.

One example, who killed Bruce's parents, the status of Joe Chill (alive or dead), etc.

[The Joker]

He eventually became police commissioner (it's comics, roll with it)
And smiled a lot more and cooperated with the police.

E2 Bats also was seen smoking his pipe on a regular basis as well.

As far as him coming back as a Black Lantern? It's just not possible. The Pre-Crisis Earth-Two was essentially erased following COIE. And unlike E2 Supes who was buried on New Earth following IC, there's no body for a ring to seek out.

About the only way I figure seeing a E2 Batman as a Black Lantern, is for the BL rings to invade the Earth-Two that was created following Infinite Crisis. Which shares alot of similarities to the original Earth-Two, but not exactly the same.

[WorstThingUS]

Actually that was the Earth One Batman. Neither of those events involved the Earth Two Batman.

You are correct sir.

In Morrison's Batman, this is part of the mainstream continuity, I believe.

Groan.

Yeah, I get the basics. It's the in and out and out and in that lends me a headache.

One example, who killed Bruce's parents, the status of Joe Chill (alive or dead), etc.

He's back as their killer and I believe dead in the Silver Age manner: killed by other bad guys when he confesses to creating Batman.

[marshal99]

After the death of his wife , E2 batman became dark and depressed , retired his costume and became full time police commissioner . forbid his daughter Helena to become a costume hero (which she still did in secret) , cut off ties with his superhero friends (except for the guy gunning for Wayne and finding out that batman was wayne , eventually killed him).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/volksjager/scansdaliy/DC-260-79F21A36.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/volksjager/scansdaliy/DC-260-79F21A37.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/volksjager/scansdaliy/DC-260-79F21A38.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/volksjager/scansdaliy/DC-260-79F21A39.jpg

[marshal99]

While not necessarily batman , the America vs the justice society mini series is a great read on the history of the pre-crisis earth 2 JSA which includes the GA batman & superman.

http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/comics101/images/2004/aug11/frontpage.jpg

http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/comics101/images/2004/aug11/custody.jpg

[WorstThingUS]

I hated that "cancer made him crazy" story more than words can say. Now that's a story that needs to be retconned away. When the new E2 was created that didn't come with it. And while we're at it, get rid of the idea that some rich guy could just become police commissioner and provide a more dignified death for the Golden Age Batman. Killed by some nameless, crazy wacko? Unacceptable.

[Melfice]

I'm still new to comics and I don't know much about the different Earth's in the DCU. These stories of the Earth 2 Batman were mini-series I take it? I can see why people get confussed a bit lol

[Captain Jim]

These were portions of Justice Society stories. Batman's death (in a JSA story) appeared in Adventure Comics.