CBR: Cup O' Joe Q&A: Ultimate Futures, Nightcrawler, Quasar & More!

[CBR News]

Joe Quesada returns this week with a wave of news on everything from the rebirth of Marvel's greatest cosmic champion to character swapping in the Marvel Universe, and plenty more!


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23174).

[DBrewer75]

I think Nightcrawler would have been excellent in MA. Shame Matt Fraction would not let him go just so he could appear in a few panels now and then.

[Expletive Deleted]

Wow, Manco's pencils for Realm of Kings look great.

[Harley]

Those pages from the Realm of Kings one-shot look amazing! Incredibly detailed! But that cover to Nova #33 is seriously one of the worst renditions of the human rocket I have ever seen.

When are they gonna get a cover artist back on this thing one who can actually draw the title character?

[rwsmith]

I think Nightcrawler would have been excellent in MA. Shame Matt Fraction would not let him go just so he could appear in a few panels now and then.

I agree.

And as for the "no more X-men in Ultimate Comics," I really hope that changes soon, as my interest in the Ultimate line has never been lower. :frown:

[Chaos_Alfa]

I agree.

And as for the "no more X-men in Ultimate Comics," I really hope that changes soon, as my interest in the Ultimate line has never been lower. :frown:

They could always get a new name.

[rwsmith]

True. That would be fine. And they need to bring Wolverine back too.

[babybro]

What's with CBR not asking any blue marvel questions? I perhaps asked this question for the past 3-4 weeks and still haven't been selected. It's not that hard to ask about the blue marvel and what's Marvel's plan for them.

[strathcona]

I think Nightcrawler would have been excellent in MA. Shame Matt Fraction would not let him go just so he could appear in a few panels now and then.

I agree, I would love to see what Slott could do with Kurt.

I also am a bit worried about Quasar... I hope that was just JoeQ's bad sense of humour and that Wendell is not going to die again, or start killing. I just can't wait for the one-shot.

[CMBMOOL]

I have to say I would also love to see what Slott could do with Nightcrawler. :tongue:


I would also want Marvel to at least try to refocus on Mystique's parental relationship with Kurt in the future. :frown:

[Frank]

Leonardo Manco's piece on Quasar is one of the best pure Marvel cosmic scene i've seen in a long time. Give this guy the moon.

And shame on Fraction for not letting Slott using Night Crawler. What a fantastic addition to the group he would have been!

[pifpog]

I think Nightcrawler would have been excellent in MA. Shame Matt Fraction would not let him go just so he could appear in a few panels now and then.

I agree. Not sure how you can deny Nightcrawler a spot in one Avenger book because he is not in the right 'family' while Wolverine continues to be a featured player in another book.

[Brother Zag]

Wow, Manco's pencils for Realm of Kings look great.

They are pretty impressive! I like the panel busting, when used well. Can't wait to see it colored and finished.

[dewey412]

LOL at the inflating numbers for a What If? #200....

Didn't they use the Hulk Flashback issue as part of the #600 issues?

They didn't do that for Spider-Man, Daredevil, or the upcoming X-Factor....Sometimes Joey Q is so full of it..lol

[Brother Zag]

LOL at the inflating numbers for a What If? #200....

Didn't they use the Hulk Flashback issue as part of the #600 issues?

They didn't do that for Spider-Man, Daredevil, or the upcoming X-Factor....Sometimes Joey Q is so full of it..lol

I thought that was sort of genius... I'd buy a "What If ‘What If' Hit Issue #200"!

[liminal_lad]

How is basically removing all Mutants from Ultimate U a way of making the two universes DIFFERENT? Isn't it a way of making them more similar?

[Mike Klander]

Good question regarding Nightcrawler! I always wondered how that worked. Matt Fraction's current way of writing Uncanny does not lend itself to character development aside from Cyclops and Emma Frost. There are so many characters that have been placed in the background being wasted. Nightcrawler would have been ideal for MA. Especially with his "crush" on Scarlet Witch which was hinted at during the Grant Morrison New X-Men days.

[stingerman]

Thanks for answering my questions, Joe!

RoK's looks great!

Killer story? Uh, oh, lol!

[Will.S]

I agree.

And as for the "no more X-men in Ultimate Comics," I really hope that changes soon, as my interest in the Ultimate line has never been lower. :frown:
I think there are too many X-books as it is to warrant yet another one, especially if it's going to have another Kirkman style run.

While I would like to see the Ultimate books throw Ultimate X-Men fans a bone, it seems like they're only going to do it at a careful speed. Ultimate Avengers seems like the title that'll slowly introduce them back and probably same goes for the FF although that book is pretty much "Ultimate Marvel Team-Up" dressed as an Avengers one but with more all star talent on there with Millar and Pacheco.

[IronMagnus]

Joe Q's Nightcrawler/Avengers answer was LAME! :evilangry:

Though I'm happy that the Nightcrawler/Draco question was asked. Retcon that stupid story to hell, already.

[Blind pugh]

Please put Manco on a cosmic book now War Machine is ending.

[FlyingFox]

Wow, I didn't know Leonardo Manco could draw so well. His War Machine made my eyes hurt.

[Dan_Slott]

Guys,
I just want to clear some air here on the whole Nightcrawler/Mighty Avengers issue. There's no bad guy here (outside of ME saying something to a fan that could have been interpreted the way it has).

When I was asked to write Mighty Avengers I had to put together a roster for the book. I had a wish list for a LOT of characters-- and I made a LOT of calls to a LOT creators asking if I could snatch up some guys from their rosters.

Matt was just one of MANY guys I called. Nightcrawler was just one of MANY characters I asked about. Matt, was very gracious, he offered up some ideas for characters he could offer up and characters that I should've pursued.

Joe's answer to this was on the nose. When Spider-Man editorial said they wanted to put a moratorium on Spider-Man villains appearing elsewhere-- I guarantee you, I was the first person to chime in with a resounding "Yes!" Like they say, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander."

The give and take of when/how/where characters show up is important to the way these characters are portrayed and managed in the mighty Marvel tapestry. And there's a lot of thought and reason behind it. It's not my right or privilege to use/take/borrow any Marvel character from any other Marvel creator or Marvel office willy-nilly. More importantly, it shouldn't be my place to air any of that in public-- even if it's to say to a fan at a show "I asked if I could use this character from that guy's book, but he had other plans."

So on that count I am VERY sorry for my part in making this a bigger issue than it ever should be.
ttyl
Dan

[DBrewer75]

well I see that and would understand if Nightcrawler was actually USED in Uncanny but he really isn't... he would have been an excellent addition to MA

and as someone else mentioned, Wolverine can be in numerous books at one time so other characters should be able to as well

[Talisman]

Guys,
I just want to clear some air here on the whole Nightcrawler/Mighty Avengers issue. There's no bad guy here (outside of ME saying something to a fan that could have been interpreted the way it has).

When I was asked to write Mighty Avengers I had to put together a roster for the book. I had a wish list for a LOT of characters-- and I made a LOT of calls to a LOT creators asking if I could snatch up some guys from their rosters.

Matt was just one of MANY guys I called. Nightcrawler was just one of MANY characters I asked about. Matt, was very gracious, he offered up some ideas for characters he could offer up and characters that I should've pursued.

Joe's answer to this was on the nose. When Spider-Man editorial said they wanted to put a moratorium on Spider-Man villains appearing elsewhere-- I guarantee you, I was the first person to chime in with a resounding "Yes!" Like they say, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander."

The give and take of when/how/where characters show up is important to the way these characters are portrayed and managed in the mighty Marvel tapestry. And there's a lot of thought and reason behind it. It's not my right or privilege to use/take/borrow any Marvel character from any other Marvel creator or Marvel office willy-nilly. More importantly, it shouldn't be my place to air any of that in public-- even if it's to say to a fan at a show "I asked if I could use this character from that guy's book, but he had other plans."

So on that count I am VERY sorry for my part in making this a bigger issue than it ever should be.
ttyl
Dan
It still sucks that Fraction hasn't done shit with him, and you could have possibly used him in a very good way.

[apoehler]

ugh, still with the graph paper

[Green Griffin]

Man that sucks, i would love Nightcrawler on the Mighty Avengers. God Damn Fraction, using Nightcrawler as background while he could go on to do better things.

[Talisman]

Man that sucks, i would love Nightcrawler on the Mighty Avengers. God Damn Fraction, using Nightcrawler as background while he could go on to do better things.

But he is doing something. He's counseling Emma and building a church, while looking like a chump compared to Pixie:rolleyes:

[Azure]

But he is doing something. He's counseling Emma and building a church, while looking like a chump compared to Pixie:rolleyes:

Hurray for Pixie!!!

Thanks for clearing that up, Mr Dan Slott. I like your writings.

[zinjak]

I think Nightcrawler would have been excellent in MA. Shame Matt Fraction would not let him go just so he could appear in a few panels now and then.


i agree, i would love to see nightcrawler be on another team so he could get some face time...Joe's answers basically made it sound like he still was not going to be around much except for some x-men legacy stuff, that i dont read because legacy is kinda boring usually.

Fraction is doing nothing with the character so he really should have let him go, because it sounds like he still doesnt have any plans for him.

i personally like Fractions uncanny run, but he clearly has no interest in my favorite x-man...give a dog a bone fraction, either do something with the character to justify your unrelnquishing of him, or give him to dan slott so i can see my favorite x-man doing awesome stuff with hercules and pym.

[zinjak]

Joe Q's Nightcrawler/Avengers answer was LAME! :evilangry:

Though I'm happy that the Nightcrawler/Draco question was asked. Retcon that stupid story to hell, already.


guess im an odd duck, Nightcrawler is my favorite x-man, and i really like that origin story for him. I personally don't get what people dont like about it other than the fact that it was not the famed and infamous "mystique was actually the dude" story...which i think is fine but it sounds like they were going for shock value more than anything else.

[Kiel Phegley!]

What's with CBR not asking any blue marvel questions? I perhaps asked this question for the past 3-4 weeks and still haven't been selected. It's not that hard to ask about the blue marvel and what's Marvel's plan for them.

I may be wrong on this, but I was pretty sure we asked about the Blue Marvel a month or two back and got a "no plans at this time" type answer. Generally, I try to space out questions after the status of fan favorite characters like that so everyone gets a chance to ask after one of their favs and so the column doesn't feel like it's repeating itself (example, if I would have asked about Alpha Flight again, we may not have gotten to guys like Quasar and Nightcrawler this week).

I'll try and scroll back through some old columns and if I'm wrong about having asked after the Blue Marvel, I'll work your question in as soon as I can.

Thanks!

- KP

[Talisman]

I may be wrong on this, but I was pretty sure we asked about the Blue Marvel a month or two back and got a "no plans at this time" type answer. Generally, I try to space out questions after the status of fan favorite characters like that so everyone gets a chance to ask after one of their favs and so the column doesn't feel like it's repeating itself (example, if I would have asked about Alpha Flight again, we may not have gotten to guys like Quasar and Nightcrawler this week).

I'll try and scroll back through some old columns and if I'm wrong about having asked after the Blue Marvel, I'll work your question in as soon as I can.

Thanks!

- KP
Hey, a fellow Michigander!! Holla!

[babybro]

I may be wrong on this, but I was pretty sure we asked about the Blue Marvel a month or two back and got a "no plans at this time" type answer. Generally, I try to space out questions after the status of fan favorite characters like that so everyone gets a chance to ask after one of their favs and so the column doesn't feel like it's repeating itself (example, if I would have asked about Alpha Flight again, we may not have gotten to guys like Quasar and Nightcrawler this week).

I'll try and scroll back through some old columns and if I'm wrong about having asked after the Blue Marvel, I'll work your question in as soon as I can.

Thanks!

- KP


Thanks for the heads up, and just to let you guys know, you haven't when the last two months. I'd know I'd remember it. The latest news regading blue marvel came from a tom breevort post in his marvel blog september 08th I believe, specifically stating they didn't have any plans for an ongoing at this time, but it seem like they had plans of placing him somewhere. The exact quote is here.


> Any chance of seeing an "Adam the Blue Marvel" ongoing? I loved the mini-series >

No plans for an ADAM ongoing right this second, but hopefully we'll find some other place to spotlight the character within the line, now that we've brought him back to prominence.

http://marvel.com/blogs/Tom_Brevoort/entry/1598

So that's why I was trying to figure out where/when he was going to be placed at so I can make a spot in my pull list.

[steveg887]

They could always get a new name.

In honor of Cyclops, I believe they should be called the C-Men.





What's everyone looking at?

[creaky]

But he is doing something. He's counseling Emma and building a church, while looking like a chump compared to Pixie:rolleyes:

Don't forget getting stabbed and shot once or twice a month. And since they're now moving, that chapel is never being used again. Heck, it was never used, period. A complete waste, like every appearance he's made in the bloody book since ages back.

They still won't do anything with the Mystique connection. They will do nothing with the Wolverine connection. They've brought THREE more powerful teleporters onto the team to make sure he's good and obsolete. If that Manifest Destiny one-shot was supposed to resolve anything, everything written since has made sure to re-establish his status as dead weight.

[Mister Jerusalem]

Um, looks like Black Bolt got better pretty quickly...he's on the cover of Nova 33, wonder if Vulcan will pop up again soon too?

[stingerman]

Um, looks like Black Bolt got better pretty quickly...he's on the cover of Nova 33, wonder if Vulcan will pop up again soon too?

If we assume "BB" got lost in the Fault or what have you and DH and Nova find him, Vulcan could be somewhere out there.

Man, I can't wait for this to start!

[DeadXMan]

I have to say I would also love to see what Slott could do with Nightcrawler. :tongue:
I would also want Marvel to at least try to refocus on Mystique's parental relationship with Kurt in the future. :frown:

Simple Kurt would be mackin on Loki.:wink:

[ResIpsaLoquitur]

Well, Joe answered my question on What If...?, so I'm grateful for that. I'd be totally on board for a #200, though. Seems kind of arbitrary that it counts as a "decades old" series. Volume 2 was cancelled in 1998 or 1999, I think, so it's not THAT old. Besides, I think the original X-Factor was cancelled that long ago, and it's getting the renumbering treatment....

[Illmatik]

Pretty pissed that Nightcrawler could have been in Mighty Avengers but didn't because of Matt Fraction...

No X-Men in the Ultimate Universe anymore? I kinda like this idea. It leaves the possibility of using some of the former X-Men as villains in Ultimate Avengers or Spider-Man. How cool would Ultimate Wolverine be as a villain?

Quasar to die soon? I hope he was just joking

[Sighphi]

Pretty pissed that Nightcrawler could have been in Mighty Avengers but didn't because of Matt Fraction...

No X-Men in the Ultimate Universe anymore? I kinda like this idea. It leaves the possibility of using some of the former X-Men as villains in Ultimate Avengers or Spider-Man. How cool would Ultimate Wolverine be as a villain?

Quasar to die soon? I hope he was just joking

Yeah that's really messed up, just because the dude probably wanted that last teleporter the character was screwed out of a good showing. For things like this writers should REALLY show a battle plan for the character and if they dont have any except..... "we might use him for something" You loose him.

By the way, "Joe Quesada: We don't generally go seeking out things to retcon." Funniest line ever. There's, like, a quarter of the Marvel books that are currently retconning stuff as we speak.

[Expletive Deleted]

By the way, "Joe Quesada: We don't generally go seeking out things to retcon." Funniest line ever. There's, like, a quarter of the Marvel books that are currently retconning stuff as we speak.If he'd said that they don't retcon anything, that would've been hilarious.

I think there's a distinction to be made between retconning something unrelated to current storylines in order to right a past wrong (eg. the Nightcrawler/Draco situation) and retconning something in order to facilitate a current storyline (eg. the Ghost Rider origin situation).

------------

By the way, Brevoort talks more about the way characters are controlled and shared here (http://marvel.com/blogs/Tom_Brevoort/entry/1617).

[Somebody]

LOL at the inflating numbers for a What If? #200....

Didn't they use the Hulk Flashback issue as part of the #600 issues?

They didn't do that for Spider-Man, Daredevil, or the upcoming X-Factor....Sometimes Joey Q is so full of it..lol

Actually, they artificially DEFLATED the X-Factor number. #200 is actually #204.

[dewey412]

Actually, they artificially DEFLATED the X-Factor number. #200 is actually #204.

That's actually kind of my point, and I agree with you 100%.....Some series they count minis and specials, some they don't...Another good one is Journey into Mystery....Thor went back to Journey into Mystery for over a year, and Marvel doesn't count any of those as part of Thor...Which would actually have put Thor well into the 610's...Marvel fudges the numbers when it fits....

[mikekerr3]

How is basically removing all Mutants from Ultimate U a way of making the two universes DIFFERENT? Isn't it a way of making them more similar?

Don't look at the man behind the curtain, or expect logic from Joe.:biggrin:

[americocaine]

So Moondragon is pregnant with lemme guess..Starhawk reborn..yet again.

[Comicbookfan]

Hey joe Will Arthur Adams be doing Any more Monthly Books? I Love his Work.

[deworde]

This isn't typically how we calculate our anniversary issue numbers, adding together assorted one-shots in order to artificially increase the issue number. We typically also don't count series that have been cancelled and restarted decades later as being all part of the same thing.

Joe. Come on. Thor #600? Hulk #600? "Math is hard?"


Still, we're nothing if not opportunistic, so you never know.
There you go. Get truthy on us.

[deworde]

Don't look at the man behind the curtain, or expect logic from Joe.:biggrin:

I don't know. I think this might be a sign that the mutants will return to 616, and M-Day will begin to be reversed. Otherwise, as has become quite clear, they don't have a plan for the whole 198 thing, at least as regards the X-Men. Titles like the Avengers have benefited from not having to deal with every enemy being a mutant, and Civil War/Dark Reign wouldn't have been possible without M-Day.

But the X-Men have basically been in Limbo since the end of Morrison's run. Nobody seemed to have a good idea of what to do with them now they were no longer "a hated and oppressed minority", and the problem with making them that again is that the only story you can tell with that is how the X-Men try to fix it.

What I think they need to do is get back to the point where the mutant population is rising again, and show how the X-Men deal with being "the old generation" and how they're trying to protect and restrain these New Mutants. But I'm pretty sure that would conflict with the plans for the rest of the universe at the moment.

[Andyb]

Wow I feel like a total jerk for asking and using your name in my question. I hope I didn't cause any problems for you. But this really is a question that's bothered me about Marvel since Kurt was writing the book. Why let a character linger in the background when someone wants him use him in the spotlight.


Guys,
I just want to clear some air here on the whole Nightcrawler/Mighty Avengers issue. There's no bad guy here (outside of ME saying something to a fan that could have been interpreted the way it has).

When I was asked to write Mighty Avengers I had to put together a roster for the book. I had a wish list for a LOT of characters-- and I made a LOT of calls to a LOT creators asking if I could snatch up some guys from their rosters.

Matt was just one of MANY guys I called. Nightcrawler was just one of MANY characters I asked about. Matt, was very gracious, he offered up some ideas for characters he could offer up and characters that I should've pursued.

Joe's answer to this was on the nose. When Spider-Man editorial said they wanted to put a moratorium on Spider-Man villains appearing elsewhere-- I guarantee you, I was the first person to chime in with a resounding "Yes!" Like they say, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander."

The give and take of when/how/where characters show up is important to the way these characters are portrayed and managed in the mighty Marvel tapestry. And there's a lot of thought and reason behind it. It's not my right or privilege to use/take/borrow any Marvel character from any other Marvel creator or Marvel office willy-nilly. More importantly, it shouldn't be my place to air any of that in public-- even if it's to say to a fan at a show "I asked if I could use this character from that guy's book, but he had other plans."

So on that count I am VERY sorry for my part in making this a bigger issue than it ever should be.
ttyl
Dan

[BooCoo]

So Moondragon is pregnant with lemme guess..Starhawk reborn..yet again.

And Starhawk is Quasar's kid. Just sayin.' :wink:

[steveg887]

Joe's answer to this was on the nose. When Spider-Man editorial said they wanted to put a moratorium on Spider-Man villains appearing elsewhere-- I guarantee you, I was the first person to chime in with a resounding "Yes!"

That's kind of funny considering Marvel's current status quo.