The "Great artists can be forgiven" game

[MacQuarrie]

So I was thinking about the Roman Polanski case; because he is a great director who made important films, he gets a free pass to screw little girls. Along the same lines, because Michael Jackson was The King of Pop, he gets a free pass for whatever he wanted to get up to with little boys. OJ Simpson was almost famous enough to get away with murder, and so on.

So here's the game: Pick a great artist and say what crime(s) they should be allowed to get away with. For example, Meryl Streep is arguably the greatest living actress. If she wanted to be a serial arsonist, Hollywood's A-list would find an excuse for her. Conversely, Michael Bay, having made a series of big dumb lowbrow entertainments, could be forgiven for being a peeping tom, petty theft and vandalism, but that's about it.

What are yours?

[KevinTBrown]

Hmmm, I listen to and like Toby Keith and John Rich's music despite the fact that they're everything I despise in a hardcore fanatical Republican.

Not quite what you're looking for, but that's the only thing I can come up with personally.

[MacQuarrie]

Okay, so other than being right-wing tools, what other crimes would you exempt them from prosecution for? If Toby Kieth were to, say, kick puppies, would you make an excuse for him? I mean, he said he would put a boot up someone's ass, but he didn't say it would be a human's.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Hmmm, I listen to and like Toby Keith and John Rich's music despite the fact that they're everything I despise in a hardcore fanatical Republican.

Not quite what you're looking for, but that's the only thing I can come up with personally.

What I found ironic is that in telling the Dixie Chicks to shut up and just sing, he basically was expressing as strong a political view as they did.

Nice double standard buddy has.

[the4thpip]

Lady Gaga could get away with stealing a spoon of potato salad at a buffet.

Gladys Knight could be forgiven for holding a bus full of senior citizens hostage for 3 months and crippling two of them.

[KevinTBrown]

Okay, so other than being right-wing tools, what other crimes would you exempt them from prosecution for? If Toby Kieth were to, say, kick puppies, would you make an excuse for him? I mean, he said he would put a boot up someone's ass, but he didn't say it would be a human's.

Let's see....... Nope.


I'm going to guess you're being somewhat facetious in the "kicking of puppies" comment, but if any celebrity/artist does something illegal to the point of a Michael Vick, Micheal Jackson or Roman Polanski, I would not make an excuse for them. Period.

[the4thpip]

Let's see....... Nope.


I'm going to guess you're being somewhat facetious in the "kicking of puppies" comment, but if any celebrity/artist does something illegal to the point of a Michael Vick, Micheal Jackson or Roman Polanski, I would not make an excuse for them. Period.

It's a game, Kevin.

[MacQuarrie]

Lady Gaga could get away with stealing a spoon of potato salad at a buffet.

Gladys Knight could be forgiven for holding a bus full of senior citizens hostage for 3 months and crippling two of them.

There we go!

Could Harrison Ford bite somebody?

John Lennon could probably have gotten away with cannibalism; could Paul McCartney, if he weren't a vegetarian?

[LewMoxinsghost]

Angelina Jolie can get away with coming to my house. Often.

[the4thpip]

Angelina Jolie can get away with coming to my house. Often.

I'll put her down for trespassing then.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Could Harrison Ford bite somebody?



This guy certainly could not.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/sillytim2/MarvAlbert.jpg

[Spackling Compound]

Oscar Wilde was spurned by his Victorian society yet he gave us "The Importance of Being Earnest", "The Picture of Dorian Gray" and "Salome".

R. Kelly peed on a 12 year old girl after having sex with her and is still working and he gave us "Trapped in the Closet".

Not really playing the game but just putting this out there.

[MacQuarrie]

Oscar Wilde was spurned by his Victorian society yet he gave us "The Importance of Being Earnest", "The Picture of Dorian Gray" and "Salome".

R. Kelly peed on a 12 year old girl after having sex with her and is still working and he gave us "Trapped in the Closet".

Not really playing the game but just putting this out there.
So play the game.

Pick a celebrity and name the crime they should be allowed to commit. Is Angelina Jolie beautiful enough that she could put all those adopted kids to work in a sweatshop and be excused for it?

[Free-Man]

Hmmm, I listen to and like Toby Keith and John Rich's music despite the fact that they're everything I despise in a hardcore fanatical Republican.

Not quite what you're looking for, but that's the only thing I can come up with personally.

Didn't Ketih support Obama?

[Spackling Compound]

So play the game.

Pick a celebrity and name the crime they should be allowed to commit. Is Angelina Jolie beautiful enough that she could put all those adopted kids to work in a sweatshop and be excused for it?

Bob Saget can expose himself to a group of "Make A Wish Kids" and get a pass.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Dubya could toss his shoe at an Islamic person and get away with it.

[schwamp]

Angelina Jolie could be forgiven for running a seamstress sweat shop in her basement. I mean, she is already greatly improving their living standard by adopting them. Why not get something back...?

[Infra-Man]

John Hawkes could get away with multiple counts of assault and battery.

Jim Shepard could get away with beating up a classroom full of 10-year-olds and the teacher.

Italo Calvino could get away with regicide.

Jorge Luis Borges could get away with mass regicide.

Joe Strummer could have gotten away with the extinction of a single species.

Akira Kurosawa could have gotten away with orchestrating the explosion of The Hindenburg, the sinking of The Titanic, and every train derailment since the 1940s.

[Guapo Méndez]

So play the game.

Pick a celebrity and name the crime they should be allowed to commit. Is Angelina Jolie beautiful enough that she could put all those adopted kids to work in a sweatshop and be excused for it?

I'd give her a pass for nuking Louisiana.

[jesse_custer]

Les Paul could have gotten away with skullfucking every member of an elderly gardening club.

[Spackling Compound]

Bill Hicks could have molested a quadriplegic Buddhist monk and gotten away with it.

[Spackling Compound]

Dubya could toss his shoe at an Islamic person and get away with it.

Barak Obama could eat the brains of his children on live television and get away with it.

[TCJohnson]

Let's face it, any member of the Beatles could have gotten away with detonating a dirty nuclear device in a populated area.

Kanye could get life for jaywalking.

[Guapo Méndez]

Harold Ramis, Bill Murray and Dan Aykroyd could get away with sinking Europe.

[Spackling Compound]

Nathan Lane could give a pregnant drunken teenager a C-section with a dirty spork.

[Infra-Man]

Nathan Lane could give a pregnant drunken teenager a C-section with a dirty spork.

This is no crime but merely a statement of fact.

[Free-Man]

John Travolta can go to hell. That is all...

[Rob Allen]

Mohandas "Mahatma" Gandhi could and did get away with sleeping with underage girls.

[jesse_custer]

Bill Hicks could have molested a quadriplegic Buddhist monk and gotten away with it.

Mainly because hardly anyone knew who the hell he was when he was alive.

[Spackling Compound]

Mohandas "Mahatma" Gandhi could and did get away with sleeping with underage girls.

Yeah, but he didn't do nothing...really..just a little Krishna Juice and playtime. ;)

[Michael P]

John Lennon could probably have gotten away with cannibalism; could Paul McCartney, if he weren't a vegetarian?

Hell, Lennon did get away with adultery, desertion, emotional abuse, and possibly manslaughter.

[Disciple_of_the_Bat]

Geoff Johns could rape my mother.
Grant Morrison could start a thermonuclear war with Russia.
Frank Miller could molest the Vienna Boys Choir
Alan Moore could shoplift The New Times:wink:

[bfrank]

Janet can be forgiven for flashing her tit during a superbowl halftime show....oh wait.....

[Spackling Compound]

Geoff Johns could rape my mother.
...and include it as a subplot to an overarching multi-issue story about secrets, trust and loyalty.

[Disciple_of_the_Bat]

...and include it as a subplot to an overarching multi-issue story about secrets, trust and loyalty.


Damn, he is good.

[Spackling Compound]

Janet can be forgiven for flashing her tit during a superbowl halftime show....oh wait.....

I still never get that as being a "tit"...it was like tape on a nipple. Which, really, was there because she knew her boobs were gonna be flashed.

Back to the game....

Barbara Steisand can do a musical version of "Mein Kampf" and get a pass.

[bfrank]

I still never get that as being a "tit"...it was like tape on a nipple. Which, really, was there because she knew her boobs were gonna be flashed.



Welcome to america, land of the prudes, you must be a new arrival........

[MacQuarrie]

Janet can be forgiven for flashing her tit during a superbowl halftime show....oh wait.....
True, but she can't be forgiven for trying to pretend it was accidental. We may be prudes, but we're not stupid, and we don't like it when someone acts like they think we are.

[Evan Waters]

True, but she can't be forgiven for trying to pretend it was accidental. We may be prudes, but we're not stupid, and we don't like it when someone acts like they think we are.

But the one thing that does make me wonder- if it was planned, why didn't they have her wear a full-on pasty instead of a nipple brooch that didn't actually cover the nipple?

[Bob Violence]

William Shakespeare could get away with writing the Macarena and the Chicken Dance.

[Lester C.]

I forgive John Byrne for being...dificult over the years. To the best of my knowledge he's never hurt anyone and while his best days may be behind him, I think he's a masterful storyteller both visually and with the written word.

[Spike-X]

Bruce Springsteen could get away with...hmm, let's see...cheating on his wife with his backup singer, then divorcing her and marrying the...


...oh, wait.

[bfrank]

True, but she can't be forgiven for trying to pretend it was accidental.

Sure she can, hence the thread.....and lol at the rest.....

[Spackling Compound]

Zach Galiaifanakis can poke holes in condoms at an African "Doctors Without Borders" station and scream "DIE OF AIDS, BASTARDS!" and get an indie movie deal within a week.

[Michael P]

Bruce Springsteen could get away with...hmm, let's see...cheating on his wife with his backup singer, then divorcing her and marrying the...


...oh, wait.

Honestly, looking at the first wife and the second wife, I'd forgive him even if he hadn't written "Born to Run."

[bfrank]

But the one thing that does make me wonder- if it was planned, why didn't they have her wear a full-on pasty instead of a nipple brooch that didn't actually cover the nipple?

I don't know if it was supposed to be torn that far, but there's no way in hell it couldn't have been planned....just listen to the song....."bet I have you naked by the end of this song"....

Taylor Smith can be for su...Yo excuse B, I'mma let you finish, but MTV can be forgiven for not awarding Beyonce best female video!

umm...ok kanye:confused:

[Lester C.]

I think there are catches here. Jackson was only forgiven and loved after he died and it become a media event. Polanski only in other countries or decades after the fact in this one.

[Spackling Compound]

Bea Arthur could have man-raped her grandkids and read them strict interpretations of the Torah that promised torment to their souls should they report her while bathing them in lye and ..gotten away with it!

[Evan Waters]

I don't know if it was supposed to be torn that far, but there's no way in hell it couldn't have been planned....just listen to the song....."bet I have you naked by the end of this song"....


That much, obviously, was planned, but if that, it does still fall into the category of "wardrobe malfunction."

[Spackling Compound]

I don't know if it was supposed to be torn that far, but there's no way in hell it couldn't have been planned....just listen to the song....."bet I have you naked by the end of this song"....

Taylor Smith can be for su...Yo excuse B, I'mma let you finish, but MTV can be forgiven for not awarding Beyonce best female video!

umm...ok kanye:confused:

Taylor Swift.....Swift...

[Spackling Compound]

That much, obviously, was planned, but if that, it does still fall into the category of "wardrobe malfunction."

In the same way intentionally running a car into another car can be called an accident.

[Adam C]

John Lennon could probably have gotten away with cannibalism; could Paul McCartney, if he weren't a vegetarian?

Lennon could, but McCartney? Beatles' fans and music critics alike would not only crucify him, but accuse of him grandstanding just to compete with Lennon's image.

That said I'm pretty sure Miles Davis could get away with the Great Leap Forward, though it would take a Charlie Parker to get away with Stalin's crimes.

[FeminineMystique]

I think if Emilie Autumn shot me point blank in the knees I'd still love her.

Then again given my feelings on pain and pleasure, maybe that's not saying much? ;)

[Spike-X]

Will Eisner could get away with having a character who was somewhat of a racial caricature, given that it was the 1940s.

[OzBat!]

Christopher Reeve could get away with throwing small children off tall buildings, as long as he was in costume.

Stephen Hawking could get away with road rage in an old folks hostel.

Nelson Mandella could be lauded by the UN for blowing shit up and... oh wait.

[Michael P]

This one's specific, but among nerds, Gene Roddenberry and Gary Gygax could probably get away with butchering children for meat.

[Evan Waters]

Stephen Hawking could get away with road rage in an old folks hostel.


That's only because it would be awesome.

[Gail Simone]

Hmmm, I listen to and like Toby Keith and John Rich's music despite the fact that they're everything I despise in a hardcore fanatical Republican.

Not quite what you're looking for, but that's the only thing I can come up with personally.

I'm not a hundred percent sure about that Toby Keith thing. He says he's a Democrat, and he has expressed regret about all the 'Kick Ass USA' stuff since visiting the troops overseas.

[Gail Simone]

The MST3K crew could run over Glenn Beck and I'd be okay with it.

Actually, Jamie Farr could run over Glenn Beck.

Okay, ANYONE could run over Glenn Beck.

[Red Jack]

Will Eisner could get away with having a character who was somewhat of a racial caricature, given that it was the 1940s.

Not so much.

(yes. i took the bait.)

[Michael P]

I'm not a hundred percent sure about that Toby Keith thing. He says he's a Democrat, and he has expressed regret about all the 'Kick Ass USA' stuff since visiting the troops overseas.

Yeah, he was a Democrat when Clinton was in office, too. You notice how his public image shifts with the political winds?

[Night Swordsman]

Faith Hill could be forgiven for wide spread singing...


..wth am i thinking...NO! :biggrin:

[Disciple_of_the_Bat]

Harvey Weinstein can be forgiven for being born.

[Night Swordsman]

The MST3K crew could run over Glenn Beck and I'd be okay with it.

Actually, Jamie Farr could run over Glenn Beck.

Okay, ANYONE could run over Glenn Beck.

I am sad that person is on the cover of Time Magazine this week...

[Spackling Compound]

Rachel Maddow could join the Mormons, crap on Simone de Beauvoir's grave and repopularize "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" and get a big wet pass....

[M. Bushbug]

Gary Larson can get away with genetically engineering and releasing Anthrax-Leprosy Mu.

[MacQuarrie]

That much, obviously, was planned, but if that, it does still fall into the category of "wardrobe malfunction."

http://www.janetjacksonflash.com/

It was clearly deliberate.

[the4thpip]

But the one thing that does make me wonder- if it was planned, why didn't they have her wear a full-on pasty instead of a nipple brooch that didn't actually cover the nipple?

From what I remember, the shiny fake leather part of the costume was supposed to go, but not the red lingerie underneath. Justin tore away too many levels.

[Flamebird]

William Shakespeare could get away with writing the Macarena and the Chicken Dance.

No one is THAT great an artist.

He could Maybe be forgiven for writing Rico Suave. Maybe.

[MacQuarrie]

From what I remember, the shiny fake leather part of the costume was supposed to go, but not the red lingerie underneath. Justin tore away too many levels.

Photographic evidence proves there was no red lingerie underneath. The red part was just trim sewn along the top. The snap-on bra cup of the costume functioned exactly as designed.

[Spackling Compound]

Photographic evidence proves there was no red lingerie underneath. The red part was just trim sewn along the top. The snap-on bra cup of the costume functioned exactly as designed.

The whole "red bra theory" is also on that same page you cited.

[sparta28090]

The MST3K crew could run over Glenn Beck and I'd be okay with it.

Actually, Jamie Farr could run over Glenn Beck.

Okay, ANYONE could run over Glenn Beck.

Gail Simone could get a way with running over Glenn Beck, Hillary Clinton, and Marylin Manson in a invisible car with spiked wheels if she did it dressed as Wonder Woman

[Evan Waters]

http://www.janetjacksonflash.com/

It was clearly deliberate.

Again, though, it doesn't address WHY, if it was deliberate, they'd let her nipple be exposed.

[Spackling Compound]

And to the converse of the game:

MEGAN FOX could donate her vital organs to dying children, give all her earnings to UNICEF, marry an overweight balding crippled woman in an open ceremony at a Comic-Con and laugh at every nerd's jokes while getting a degree in physics and still be a hideous vapid monster.

[Michael P]

I guess we can add that David Letterman can get away with cheating on his longtime partner with his assistant.

Johnny Carson probably could have gotten away with killing the girl and dumping her body in the La Brea Tar Pits.

[MacQuarrie]

Again, though, it doesn't address WHY, if it was deliberate, they'd let her nipple be exposed.

Shock value. Because they could; it was live TV and nobody could stop them. Do you think she would have put on that jewelry if it weren't meant to be seen?

[Evan Waters]

Shock value. Because they could; it was live TV and nobody could stop them. Do you think she would have put on that jewelry if it weren't meant to be seen?

But again, if jewelry, why not a pasty, or a tassel?

[Tommy]

Alan Ball could be forgiven for stealing the Goodyear Blimp.

[Night Swordsman]

NOTHING on earth can make me forgive Faith Hill for "This Kiss".

NOTHING.

VILEST song EVER. :mad:

[The Xenos]

Sunddely I hear Gilbert Godfriend saying, "Bob Saget... who raped and killed a girl in 1990." from the roast of Bob Saget.

[MacQuarrie]

But again, if jewelry, why not a pasty, or a tassel?

Because the entire point of the exercise was to show nipple during the Superbowl. Nothing less would generate the kind of controversy and attention that they desired.

[Bob Violence]

Sunddely I hear Gilbert Godfriend saying, "Bob Saget... who raped and killed a girl in 1990." from the roast of Bob Saget.
I wouldn't forgive Bob Saget misusing 'who' and 'whom'.

[section 8]

So I was thinking about the Roman Polanski case; because he is a great director who made important films, he gets a free pass to screw little girls. Along the same lines, because Michael Jackson was The King of Pop, he gets a free pass for whatever he wanted to get up to with little boys. OJ Simpson was almost famous enough to get away with murder, and so on.

So here's the game: Pick a great artist and say what crime(s) they should be allowed to get away with. For example, Meryl Streep is arguably the greatest living actress. If she wanted to be a serial arsonist, Hollywood's A-list would find an excuse for her. Conversely, Michael Bay, having made a series of big dumb lowbrow entertainments, could be forgiven for being a peeping tom, petty theft and vandalism, but that's about it.

What are yours?

*pick a musician*

Should be allowed to get away with

*Pick a subtense abuse problem*

[Spackling Compound]

*pick a musician*

Should be allowed to get away with

*Pick a subtense abuse problem*

Most musicians are abusers of "pretense" :D

[Adam C]

*pick a musician*

Should be allowed to get away with

*Pick a subtense abuse problem*

Isn't that a bit too easy to render the whole point of the game moot? Speaking of which...

Ian Mackaye and the rest of Fugazi could get away with trafficking heroin.

[Spike-X]

The Rolling Stones (1968-'72) could get away with poisoning the water supply of a small town or village.

[Adam C]

The Rolling Stones (1968-'72) could get away with poisoning the water supply of a small town or village.

Only a small town of village?