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ProfeZZor X
09-30-2009, 06:13 PM
First and foremost, this is not an attempt to belittle, degrade, or poke fun at anyone that has a mental or physical handicap...

Since Xavier has been handicapped for quite some time, it's been a sort of iconic image to see him in a wheel chair - and everyone is comfortable with that. However in these quick-fix times, it's a lot easier to have a super-duper healing factor, or a bit of assistance from a team mate that can mend your broken bones lickety split... But then where's the fun in that?

Personally, I'd like to see a character go through the pain of losing a limb (Bishop, that's a whole different story), or mobility in their legs, like our American troops have done for our freedom. As expected, it would add to the realism of the risks and dangers they face every day (every arc), and humanize them far more than the whimsicle and lackluster drama we've been stomaching in the last 10 years... (save Mike Carey's work).

So what do you think? Would it add more dynamics and realism to the books if one or more characters became handicapped, succumbed to a heriditary deficiency, cancer, mental illness, or unexpected physical/mental reaction to the powers they've wielded all these years?

BTW, I realize there ARE other characters out there that have or had handicaps, but I'm referring to the more popular characters... whoever you think they are.

Justin K.
09-30-2009, 06:14 PM
Forge lost his leg and hand... but he's dead, so...

Quinnhop
09-30-2009, 07:28 PM
No.

I don't read comics about imperfect people.

matthewaos
09-30-2009, 07:29 PM
I wouldn't mind, mostly. But just for your information, it's not only american troopers that lose legs and stuff in battle, its also those who the americans shoot and bomb.

Personamanx
09-30-2009, 07:32 PM
If it's well written why not?

RickyD410
09-30-2009, 07:32 PM
I think it would be very interesting. It would have to be under certain circumstances though, beause it seems that these days, everyone is in contact with everyone else due to Emma, Psylocke, and the Cuckoos. Which means everyone can contact Magik or Pixie if they need to. Which means Elixir can go anywhere pretty much. So it wouldnt make much sense for Elixir to not be able to save someone from a disease or amputation (I dont know if Elixir could regrow a limb, but I bet if you held the limb up to the torso, he could make the nerves reattach themselves and such).

Of course, right now Elixir is in another coma. So were set!

coveredinbees
09-30-2009, 07:33 PM
How dare you suggest Marvel take even more from Wanda!??!!?

Monty_Cristo
09-30-2009, 07:36 PM
Shortpack leg was broken in half in his last appearance. it was gruesome-looking. you ever seen a doll-sized person with a cast on?

Personamanx
09-30-2009, 07:41 PM
How dare you suggest Marvel take even more from Wanda!??!!?

Rail-Road Spike through her head?

(No Wanda Hate, Just trying to be funny).

NewMutant
09-30-2009, 07:47 PM
No I wouldn't mind if Leigon became disabled.

coveredinbees
09-30-2009, 07:48 PM
Rail-Road Spike through her head?

(No Wanda Hate, Just trying to be funny).
But she'd be dead, not physically handicapped.

Monty_Cristo
09-30-2009, 07:51 PM
Shortpack could shave his head and ride around in a wheelchair as mini-Chuck.

Personamanx
09-30-2009, 07:51 PM
But she'd be dead, not physically handicapped.

She may be lucky enough to survive. It would be by no means a good life though.

Monty_Cristo
09-30-2009, 07:53 PM
She may be lucky enough to survive. It would be by no means a good life though.

i bet a lot of people would sign her spike.

coveredinbees
09-30-2009, 07:53 PM
She may be lucky enough to survive. It would be by no means a good life though.
I'd brush her hair and do her make-up for her every day...or maybe Carol would.

Personamanx
09-30-2009, 07:55 PM
I'd brush her hair and do her make-up for her every day...or maybe Carol would.

Remember it's 1 Blink for yes, and 2 Blinks for no.

coveredinbees
09-30-2009, 08:01 PM
Remember it's 1 Blink for yes, and 2 Blinks for no.
Yes. Yes.

1

Daniel Mengsk
09-30-2009, 08:08 PM
I'd brush her hair and do her make-up for her every day...or maybe Carol would.

Remember it's 1 Blink for yes, and 2 Blinks for no.

Oh my Lord....

coveredinbees
09-30-2009, 08:10 PM
Oh my Lord....
Would you abandon Psylocke? Heartless.

Personamanx
09-30-2009, 08:12 PM
Blink.........

Daniel Mengsk
09-30-2009, 08:13 PM
Would you abandon Psylocke? Heartless.

She would get a new body for herself. Or stroll around the Astral Plane as the Shadow Queen.

Blink.........

Wait. That was...yes...right?

Personamanx
09-30-2009, 08:18 PM
Wait. That was...yes...right?

Blink...... Blink, Blink. Blink, Blink, Blink. Blink. Blink?

That JonoGuy
09-30-2009, 08:18 PM
As long as the character is put to good use I don't see why not.

Washout
09-30-2009, 08:20 PM
I think so. I love Barbara Gordon pre- and post-Oracle.

If Rogue or Iceman were disable somehow, I think they could both use their powers creatively.

Home made ectoplasm
09-30-2009, 08:22 PM
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs006.snc1/4426_1146567830445_1415031788_30378812_3425955_n.j pg

Justin K.
09-30-2009, 09:11 PM
My favourite character (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/25201/506094-siryn_factor_super.jpg) was disabled (http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/x-force/91-1.jpg) once actually, and it wasn't too bad. My first reaction was outrage, but karma came around, and well, that's another story... Though I wasn't too keen on her power loss, it made for a great after-story about her struggles and getting over many temptations. Her guest appearances in Deadpool were funny, in spite of what happened to her, and it was nice to see her get some down-time, but not be in comic limbo. There's not many writers that could handle a situation like this, but it was handled well, until Revolution came to the X-books though AKA abandoned plot.

Siena Blaze
09-30-2009, 09:15 PM
I'd settle for Siena being confirmed alive.

cbrer
09-30-2009, 09:20 PM
Blindfold could be the next Madame Web if somebody demolished her entire spinal column and forced her to stay attached to life support tubes/feeding tubes etc. Just having no eyes is not enough for her. In her case, stardom would come from being disabled.

Puunk
09-30-2009, 09:25 PM
Of course I'd still love my favourite character even if they become crippled. How dare you assume I'm a disabled-hater, ProfeZZor X! Kidding!

Seriously though, I would.

Justin K.
09-30-2009, 09:26 PM
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs006.snc1/4426_1146567830445_1415031788_30378812_3425955_n.j pg

So, I take that as a yes?

creaky
10-01-2009, 12:35 AM
I'd love to see Kurt lose a hand or an eye. His greatest character development came after he was shredded by Riptide and Captain Britain broke his leg. Imagine how awesome he would be if you removed a limb! Sharpen that axe, Marvel!

witness
10-01-2009, 02:09 AM
I would definitely still be interested in my favourite character if they became disabled but only if it was done properly (no half-assed quick fix "magic" meaning the character could walk/see/get their missing limb back). If it was just an "Issue of the day" plotline it would be a waste of time.

frog
10-01-2009, 05:49 AM
I certainly would.

Azure
10-01-2009, 08:44 AM
My favourite characters are

1: Dead.
2: Smart enough to wear a bicycle helmet.
3: A talking dismembered body that lives in a box.

ProfeZZor X
04-25-2010, 11:54 PM
I guess Karma would be a perfect example of this thread's topic...

Talisman
04-25-2010, 11:55 PM
I feel this thread is here to troll the Karma fans. As Karma Klan Phan #1, I demand this thread is closed.

psycwave
04-26-2010, 12:13 AM
I'd love to see Kurt lose a hand or an eye. His greatest character development came after he was shredded by Riptide and Captain Britain broke his leg. Imagine how awesome he would be if you removed a limb! Sharpen that axe, Marvel!

Be careful what you wish for.

Mr_Hellfire
04-26-2010, 12:43 AM
Of course, I love Martha Johanssen and she's pretty much about as disabled as one gets.

Besides, Emma losing something would probably make her meaner which I'm all for. And Cyclops would probably break up with her because she would stop listening to his mangst.

The Black Guardian
04-26-2010, 12:54 AM
Kind of depends on the character and severity/nature of the disability, doesn't it?

A telepath with massive brain damage is just a lump of flesh.
A double amputee Logan or Hank ain't doing anyone any good.
A paralyzed Piotr is just a statue.

But within reason, I wouldn't mind it, as long as it contributed to them being the stellar heroes they are. I liked Notcurne's stroke. Kitty's kind of disabled right now. I look forward to Karma's stunning display of strength as she overcomes her disability and shows more grace than McCartney's ex did on the dance floor.
Be careful what you wish for.
Well, I'd say that wish is better than the current rumours.

Justin K.
04-26-2010, 01:06 AM
A paralyzed Piotr is just a statue.

You can still throw him at your foes if you're a telekinetic or Magneto.

MarvelGirlBoy
04-26-2010, 01:13 AM
I don't think Mystique can get disabled, and if Rachel got disabled then it would start to look like Marvel has a fetish for crippled lesbians...

Of course, I love Martha Johanssen and she's pretty much about as disabled as one gets.

Besides, Emma losing something would probably make her meaner which I'm all for. And Cyclops would probably break up with her because she would stop listening to his mangst.

Ha, I had never thought of Martha as disabled, but you're right. She's essentially blind, deaf, dumb, crippled, paralysed, and extraordinarily fragile.

Just a further reason to love her - a pioneer for disabled superhero representation!

M.I.Brooks
04-26-2010, 06:19 AM
Only if it's written well and is properly represented.

ProfeZZor X
04-26-2010, 07:24 AM
I feel this thread is here to troll the Karma fans. As Karma Klan Phan #1, I demand this thread is closed.

Her accident is canon now... And looking back to the original date of this thread, I hardly think it was specifically created to troll Karma fans.

But since you brought it up, do you have any ill feelings towards the writers for doing that to Karma?

Pro
04-26-2010, 07:28 AM
I'd read about a blind and deaf Cyclops.

VirginMaryRocks
04-26-2010, 08:15 AM
I guess. Although Amputees freak me out so they better get a metal replacement STAT.

teddyeatsyourface
04-26-2010, 08:34 AM
Shortpack could shave his head and ride around in a wheelchair as mini-Chuck.LOL! Perfect. Someone send this to marvel ASAP!

jeansbff
04-26-2010, 09:01 AM
I don't think i could cope with jean if she was made a vegetable.

Pixie_Solanas
04-26-2010, 11:01 AM
No.

I don't read comics about imperfect people.

This is exactly why I hate DC and the Oracle character.

fod_xp
04-26-2010, 11:06 AM
Forge lost his leg and hand... but he's dead, so...

Except Forge has done more damage, harm, and mind buggery to all the X-Men than any X-Villain ever could.

So, yes, Forge never let his "handicap" impede his insane genius for sending everything down the crapper.

worstblogever
04-26-2010, 11:11 AM
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs006.snc1/4426_1146567830445_1415031788_30378812_3425955_n.j pg

This made me picture Steven Hawking saying, "I SHALL MEET YOU AT THE MONORAIL!"

fod_xp
04-26-2010, 11:14 AM
This made me picture Steven Hawking saying, "I SHALL MEET YOU AT THE MONORAIL!"

lol, This relationship made zero sense. Now, then, five hundred years from now this scene will never make sense...Except with the monorail joke.

ProfeZZor X
04-26-2010, 11:17 AM
This made me picture Steven Hawking saying, "I SHALL MEET YOU AT THE MONORAIL!"

That also reminds me of the episode of him in Family Guy.

Although, I wouldn't mind Xavier deteriorating into having a condition such as that, and eventually resembling what Martha has become.

yanapryde
04-26-2010, 11:33 AM
Illyana is spiritually impaired.
And I love her for it.
She strives to repossess her soul and become more human.
I hope she finds it. Or some of it. She needs it.

Anodyne
04-26-2010, 11:34 AM
Rail-Road Spike through her head?

(No Wanda Hate, Just trying to be funny).

But she'd be dead, not physically handicapped.

She may be lucky enough to survive. It would be by no means a good life though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage

peopleofpaper
04-26-2010, 11:37 AM
i can't see psylocke's ass in a wheelchair

Callie
04-26-2010, 11:38 AM
Marvel could increase Cyclops' angst levels by allowing him to control his powers, but the price is that he's blind when he turns his beams off.

Pixie_Solanas
04-26-2010, 11:47 AM
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs006.snc1/4426_1146567830445_1415031788_30378812_3425955_n.j pg

Thank GOD he put that bib on her. That titanium alloy's lone weakness is spoonfed babyfood.

fortyseven
04-26-2010, 11:48 AM
LOL is this thread a stab at Karma fans?

Valeria Kementari
04-26-2010, 11:54 AM
Ororo has a terrible disability nowadays, it's called a husband.

creaky
04-26-2010, 12:00 PM
Be careful what you wish for.

If he only loses a limb, I'll be ecstatic.

worstblogever
04-26-2010, 12:01 PM
If he only loses a limb, I'll be ecstatic.

Admittedly, though, the code name "Nightlimper" doesn't have the same oomph as the current one.

creaky
04-26-2010, 12:04 PM
Admittedly, though, the code name "Nightlimper" doesn't have the same oomph as the current one.

He can still crawl while crippled, I'm sure.

Shaid O Gray
04-26-2010, 12:28 PM
The premise of this thread reminds me of Lois in Family Guy when she says she couldn't handle it if Peter were paralyzed:

"I love you Peter, but if you can't move, it's over!"

Washout
04-26-2010, 12:31 PM
I would love for Jean to be paralyzed from the waste down. She's telekinetic, so it really wouldn't matter, but it would add depth to her.

Shaid O Gray
04-26-2010, 12:52 PM
I would love for Jean to be paralyzed from the waste down. She's telekinetic, so it really wouldn't matter, but it would add depth to her.

So...then she'd be dead AND in a wheelchair?

You're a cruel person...:tongue:

Ray Goldfield
04-26-2010, 07:38 PM
Karma's disability is probably the one overcome the most easily, though, even in the real world. Artificial legs kick butt these days.

It's an interesting question. I'd prefer to see more disabling injuries as opposed to senseless character deaths, for sure.

Monty_Cristo
04-26-2010, 08:07 PM
does Rictor count as Shatterstar's handicap?

Drey
04-26-2010, 08:09 PM
i can't see psylocke's ass in a wheelchair

Dammit, I was gonna say that no, Psylocke can't lose her ass. But I thought I'd check all the posts first. I was so happy I thought I was gonna be the first to mention Psylocke and her ass until your post. Oh well, next time while I'm at work I'll just put my call on hold while I post lol.

Jase Q
04-26-2010, 08:12 PM
Well lets see...Storm married to Black Panther, has been reduced to nothing more than TV addicted house wife - gives an entirely new meaning to disabled.
Oh and NOT Interesting in the least.

Justin K.
04-26-2010, 08:13 PM
does Rictor count as Shatterstar's handicap?

Existing is his handicap.

Nite-Wing
04-26-2010, 08:35 PM
I always wondered who took professor Xavier to the bathroom when I was younger.
Karma is about to lose her leg so lets see what happens there.
Scott can only see in one color
Beast cant play the guitar anymore.

countryfan2004
04-26-2010, 09:42 PM
I would soooo be interested in Husk becoming disabled. I wonder how she would handle it and if her powers could even give her mobility at times, if it's leg problems. I'm not sure she'd cope well with a disability. Or Psylocke. But she'd end up being a Professor X with an ability to go out on some missions, having slight TK.

M.I.Brooks
04-27-2010, 03:10 AM
Existing is his handicap.

Ooohh, ouch man. :biggrin:

worstblogever
04-27-2010, 03:14 AM
i can't see psylocke's ass in a wheelchair

True. It would hurt her character development if Greg Land couldn't show her ass if she was seated all the time.

Atren
04-27-2010, 03:17 AM
I would be somewhat sad, but definetly would still be interested in my favorite as well as other's I like.

ProfeZZor X
04-27-2010, 12:33 PM
Honestly, if Iceman were to lose a limb, I'd still follow his character. Probably even moreso, because I'd be curious to see if he'd push himself more, or be more creative with his powers because of that handicap. Typically though, he'd just grow his limb back in ice form.

Talisman
04-27-2010, 12:36 PM
Her accident is canon now... And looking back to the original date of this thread, I hardly think it was specifically created to troll Karma fans.

But since you brought it up, do you have any ill feelings towards the writers for doing that to Karma?

While I'm thoroughly pissed that this happened to Karma, I'm still thrilled she's not dead. I mean, they barely used her in her almost 30 years of existence, and when she's finally back headlining in a title they dismember her. Not a character highlight.

Polaris
04-27-2010, 12:38 PM
No. There's not much to be interested in as it is with Polaris. Just holding on to a dream of great untapped potential. If she were both depowered and disabled I would lose complete interest and walk away.

Dupe1979
04-27-2010, 01:49 PM
Strong Guy's heart issues and the subsequent revelation of the physical pain his energy absorption and release causes have done a lot to make his character more multifaceted and accessible.

I think giving X characters such human difficulties to over come can be a great potential for characterization and story telling if handled well by the writer.

ProfeZZor X
04-27-2010, 02:07 PM
Strong Guy's heart issues and the subsequent revelation of the physical pain his energy absorption and release causes have done a lot to make his character more multifaceted and accessible.

I think giving X characters such human difficulties to over come can be a great potential for characterization and story telling if handled well by the writer.

That's why I was a little pissed off when Marvel didn't do a story on Bobby, back when he had that permanent ice change, as a result of that secondary mutation. Imagine not being able to be close to anyone because you're stuck in this form (what was thought back then as forever). Try imagining what was going through his mind... What would go through your mind, had it happened to you... Oh well, another wasted opportunity. Than you Milligan.

inane geek
04-27-2010, 02:34 PM
a fair question.....but most Marvel characters have personality flaws and a lot have psychotic flaws. Some handled well like Storms claustrophobia and David Hellers problems. They didnt always make a deal out of Xaviers wheelchair did they? I think if you have disabled characters you shouldn't actually mention it or write stories about it...just let it be the character

IN-A-SYNCH
04-27-2010, 02:36 PM
Wolverine in Weapon X was pretty effective in AOA,

ANd the future Wolverine being now shown in Weapon X by AAron well he had no hands and he got melted to acid lol!!!!!!!!

jeansbff
04-27-2010, 02:37 PM
You see the prof x fans probably can't wait until xavier becomes a cripple again. They dig that.

Dupe1979
04-27-2010, 02:41 PM
That's why I was a little pissed off when Marvel didn't do a story on Bobby, back when he had that permanent ice change, as a result of that secondary mutation. Imagine not being able to be close to anyone because you're stuck in this form (what was thought back then as forever). Try imagining what was going through his mind... What would go through your mind, had it happened to you... Oh well, another wasted opportunity. Than you Milligan.

That's a good point, although they might have thought it was a story that had already been done with Rouge. Mind you she could have played a big role in a story about Bobby trying to mentor him down a road she's already had to face.

Pixie_Solanas
04-27-2010, 02:45 PM
ANd the future Wolverine being now shown in Weapon X by AAron well he had no hands and he got melted to acid lol!!!!!!!!

It pains me to hear this. Aaron taking a page from Guggenheim?

Monty_Cristo
04-27-2010, 02:53 PM
True. It would hurt her character development if Greg Land couldn't show her ass if she was seated all the time.

what, they don't have backless wheelchairs? you could get them from the same place Prince got his pants.

ProfeZZor X
04-27-2010, 03:51 PM
You see the prof x fans probably can't wait until xavier becomes a cripple again. They dig that.

Actually, I really wouldn't mind that... Only this time, make it permanent through amputation.

darknessatnoon
04-27-2010, 05:18 PM
No I wouldn't. Consider Diana Fox who was basically Sage's disability. She practically ruined the character.

Waterlily
04-27-2010, 05:26 PM
It pains me to hear this. Aaron taking a page from Guggenheim?

He didn't come back to life.