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coconutphone

09-30-2009, 11:31 AM

Wooo fantastic. Lots of talking and exposition with a little action and one whopper of an "I told you so!" at the end.

A large chunk of the book explains how Ric/Guido/Star got to Detroit with Ric/Guido talking about the kiss. Star shows off a new ability in the proces

In the future the group fight against a random Sentinel attack thanks to a tip from Layla, delivered in Layla-style. Jamie worries that all of this is his fault. Layla corrects him. Doom extracts the Doomlock (aka Cortex) from the timestream. Jaime recognizes him and then things go very very bad. :D

I love the talkier issues and this one was definitely one of them giving Guido and Ric a lot of attention to talk about the kiss and what it means. Star gets some attention too with Guido making a lot quips.

Doom was of course a highlite, especially in his interactions with Cyclops (or Mr. Clops as he calls him).

Definitely a great read and a nice set-up for the sure to be massive #50.

Solid 9/10. Only missing Monet,Syrin and Longshot but with this large a cast it's more than forgivable.

Hi-Fi

09-30-2009, 11:35 AM

RickyD410

09-30-2009, 11:37 AM

I loved this issue! It might sound odd, but this was one of my favorite issues in the entire arc. I loved the driving scene with Guido and Rictor. Guido had so many good lines "fairy godmother" and "miniseries" were hilarious.

And that twist at the end, awesome! I cant wait to see how Layla and Madrox get back home next issue.

I also wanna learn the connection between Shatterstar and Longshot. I havent read either of them ever before they started appearing in X-Factor, so I dont know what their personalities were like in the past, but Shatterstar seems an awful lot like Longshot in this ish.

coconutphone

09-30-2009, 11:40 AM

Joe Franklin

09-30-2009, 11:41 AM

Loved the moments in the car, and it was funny to see Guido freaking out like that. He's obviously bothered by Rictor and Shatterstar, but why exactly? Is it the man on man action or is it the fact that he knew nothing about it and feels a little betrayed?

The man-on-man probably.

:eek: It scares most men to death, so Guido would be reacting normally.

RickyD410

09-30-2009, 11:50 AM

My thoughts about Guido are that he just felt a little betrayed because he thought he was very close with Ric, and then he found out he really doesnt know alot about him.

worstblogever

09-30-2009, 12:32 PM

I've been asked which writer in comics writes the best dialogue. And I think, "All time? PAD."

And I'll be damned if this issue doesn't prove why.

Things are coming together, and fast, and we still have time for a lot of exposition about Guido's discomfort in finding out his teammate is bisexual, all the while in the future, Layla and Madrox have a brief, but fascinating talk, and Senile Doom has a great exchange with Old Man Cyke. More of the fight with Cortex plays out, until the present and the future cross paths... again.

Great read.

coconutphone

09-30-2009, 12:44 PM

Even senile Doom is still one massive badass. I loved what he pulled off. I wish modern day Doom interacted with the mutant groups more. Feels like that stopped in the 80s.

Justin K.

09-30-2009, 01:23 PM

Solid 9/10. Only missing Monet,Syrin and Longshot but with this large a cast it's more than forgivable.

It's Siryn, is it that hard to spell?

MarvelGirlBoy

09-30-2009, 01:26 PM

It's Siryn, is it that hard to spell?

No, but i imagine it's quite a bit harder to care.

worstblogever

09-30-2009, 01:26 PM

Considering it's not spelled like the word is in the dictionary, it can be a bit more challenging. Cut the guy some slack, man.

Home made ectoplasm

09-30-2009, 01:28 PM

Considering it's not spelled like the word is in the dictionary, it can be a bit more challenging. Cut the guy some slack, man.

Maybe Terry was drunk when she was deciding on a code name and mis-spelled it.

worstblogever

09-30-2009, 01:29 PM

Maybe Terry was drunk when she was deciding on a code name and mis-spelled it.

She has been drinking since her boarding school days, when they were probably trying to teach her to spell. Sounds like a solid theory.

Daniel Mengsk

09-30-2009, 01:30 PM

No, but i imagine it's quite a bit harder to care.

Justin is her #1 fan around here, of course he cares.

chrissstopher

09-30-2009, 01:31 PM

Where's Longshot???

I loved this issue! It might sound odd, but this was one of my favorite issues in the entire arc.

Mine too! Easily my fave issue of the arc.

Home made ectoplasm

09-30-2009, 01:33 PM

Justin is her #1 fan around here, of course he cares.

You could take the #1 out of that quote

coconutphone

09-30-2009, 01:54 PM

No, but i imagine it's quite a bit harder to care.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

I like her and all but really it's a typo. Who cares.

Justin K.

09-30-2009, 02:24 PM

You could take the #1 out of that quote

Take a look at the poll (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=239268), but then again, I can guess what you voted for...

Back to the issue though...

It was a good read, but I felt like not much happened in the present, in comparison to what was going on in the future this issue. I am finding myself enjoy Shatterstar's interactions more, though I'm mainly referring to his kiss with Val Cooper and Rictor getting jealous after. It's good to see the present and future tie together in time for the big 50. The book had some light humour going for it though I feel a little less like for Guido. I Maybe he'll eventually be accepting of this, who knows, but I wouldn't have expected him to be more against it.

chrissstopher

09-30-2009, 02:43 PM

Take a look at the poll (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=239268), but then again, I can guess what you voted for...

Back to the issue though...

It was a good read, but I felt like not much happened in the present, in comparison to what was going on in the future this issue. I am finding myself enjoy Shatterstar's interactions more, though I'm mainly referring to his kiss with Val Cooper and Rictor getting jealous after. It's good to see the present and future tie together in time for the big 50. The book had some light humour going for it though I feel a little less like for Guido. I Maybe he'll eventually be accepting of this, who knows, but I wouldn't have expected him to be more against it.

I don't think Guido is against his friend... I think he was just hurt that his friend didnt feel comfortable enough to tell him.

Justin K.

09-30-2009, 02:44 PM

I don't think Guido is against his friend... I think he was just hurt that his friend didnt feel comfortable enough to tell him.

I see where you come from on that. It was still good overall though, having his roof cut into and all the other stuff they talked about...

chrissstopher

09-30-2009, 02:50 PM

And Shatterstar's new opening-portal powers... wassupwitdat?

Puunk

09-30-2009, 03:36 PM

I'm so freaking happy. I bought three comics today (Runaways, X-Force and this) and they were all awesome. Usually one's bleh, but all was good. Best part was that while this Runaways issue was more character centric and X-Force was more action driven, X-Factor was a very unusual blend in the middle. Great action and character moments.

The car scene was the best part to this issue. I totally enjoyed it - I LOLed at the guy Guido caught!

Justin K.

09-30-2009, 03:38 PM

The car scene was the best part to this issue. I totally enjoyed it - I LOLed at the guy Guido caught!

My fave part was with Val Cooper, Shatterstar, and Rictor getting jealous.
Val's reaction was priceless. I hope she sticks around.

XaviersMisprint

09-30-2009, 03:42 PM

I love Siryn. However, I don't give a shit how she is spelled. It doesn't matter.

She could be "Shoyrawne" or whatever and I wouldn't care.

NewMutant

09-30-2009, 04:03 PM

Syrin isn't as bad a Rouge or Norman Osbourne.

Rouge is pretty bad and happens too frequantly.

RuggeSkin

09-30-2009, 05:09 PM

And Shatterstar's new opening-portal powers... wassupwitdat?

Well, a while back in X-Man Sinister said Shatty had some awesome whup-ass powers just itchin to get out, there ya go.

In reality (As far as that goes in comic book-dom) it's prolly just an extension of his Sonic Vibratory powers vibrating thru the fabric of reality or something.

Now whats up with Couger-Val gettin the moist delicates over Shatty?

RoguefanAM

09-30-2009, 05:24 PM

Really enjoyed this issue. Senile!Doom is endearing.

callmekitto

09-30-2009, 05:35 PM

Now whats up with Couger-Val gettin the moist delicates over Shatty? I wondered about that one. Worth it just for Ric's pissy face, if nothing else.

That aside, I loved this whole thing, and it just makes me even happier I started reading this series, especially now that I'm actually caught up with it. Doom's dialogue with Scott was just fantastic; definitely one of my favorite parts of the issue. I'm afraid I didn't get the "Sy" thing, though. Or rather, I got the gist of the joke but I'm not familiar with it as a term. Can anyone help me with that? I tried looking it up and haven't found anything yet.

Michael P

09-30-2009, 06:24 PM

Where's Longshot?

Still regaining consciousness, probably.

MuhollandDriver

09-30-2009, 07:09 PM

Great issue.

No one has really talked about the characterization of Shatterstar.

PAD has made him quite interesting to me.....some of his actions makes me want to learn more!

RickyD410

09-30-2009, 07:12 PM

Great issue.

No one has really talked about the characterization of Shatterstar.

PAD has made him quite interesting to me.....some of his actions makes me want to learn more!

Well I was curious about it, but I've never read Shatty before, so I dont know if its new or same old same old. He seemed very similar to Longshot to me. And apparently, Cortex said they had a connection of some sort, right? I dont know anything about them, so I'm looking forward to find out about it.

MuhollandDriver

09-30-2009, 07:16 PM

Shatterstar was a character who, like most X-Force characters, slightly repelled me. Domino has been reworked wonderfully, and now Shatterstar is getting some great treatment. i like it.

RoguefanAM

09-30-2009, 07:19 PM

Great issue.

No one has really talked about the characterization of Shatterstar.

PAD has made him quite interesting to me.....some of his actions makes me want to learn more!

Yeah, that was only thing that I think felt was off in this issue. I thought Shatty was a stoic super serious warrior? He comes off as playful in that scene with Val. Weird, but not entirely unwelcome.

I admit to not reading much of him, though. That's just the impression I always got of him from the little I've seen.

Michael P

09-30-2009, 07:21 PM

I have to wonder if Rob Liefeld's reaction to Shatterstar suddenly having teleportation powers will be as strong as his reaction to Shatterstar suddenly being gay.

callmekitto

09-30-2009, 07:36 PM

I have to wonder if Rob Liefeld's reaction to Shatterstar suddenly having teleportation powers will be as strong as his reaction to Shatterstar suddenly being gay. Shatterstar's a warrior, a Spartan, and not a teleporting one. >:[

Iron Maiden

09-30-2009, 11:28 PM

Even senile Doom is still one massive badass. I loved what he pulled off. I wish modern day Doom interacted with the mutant groups more. Feels like that stopped in the 80s.

His schedule is pretty full right now, epecially with the events in Thor and the upcoming Siege. I think it says a lot for the strength and versatility of the character that the he cuts such a wide swath throughout Marvel as a villain contrasted with say, Magneto. Mags hardly every crosses over to the other side of the MU either.

I loved how PAD nailed Doom's whole philosophy in just a couple of panels whereas Millar absolutely missed it by a country mile in the FF. And it's frightening how accurate it is about the masses in general through the course of history.

coconutphone

10-01-2009, 07:14 AM

Yes that was so well put by Doom/PAD. Scary and accurate in both the comic book world and our own. I wish someone would tell modern day 'Cy' that observation.

DjMichael691

10-01-2009, 07:26 AM

I absolutely loved this issue. This issue reminded me why I love X-Factor so much.
This is the Guido I remember and I'm so glad to have him back! Fairy godmother!!! I actually laughed out loud.

coconutphone

10-01-2009, 07:42 AM

I love that Ric called him on it too.

And of course we had the nice moment where Guido asks Ric if they should trust Star's plan and Ric says to without hesitation.

preppistonpav

10-01-2009, 07:58 AM

I have to wonder if Rob Liefeld's reaction to Shatterstar suddenly having teleportation powers will be as strong as his reaction to Shatterstar suddenly being gay.

I think PAD just showed us, though, that there is more to Shatterstar. I've read next to nothing with him in it, but I do recall the whole debate about whether or not Rictor and Shatterstar were gay. And if I recall correctly, the writer from that period said that he basically meant for Shatterstar to not really know what it meant to have a friend; he was from a different culture and hadn't ever really known affection. So, he wasn't attracted to Rictor sexually so much as he was experiencing an emotional relationship with someone for the first time.

If I've got all of that right, it seems that PAD is really playing with the whole "behind the scenes" aspect of it - playing both sides of it let's say. Because we now know that, yeah, Rictor really did have emotional feelings for 'Star. But 'Star might not feel the same way about Ric. Kissing Val shows me that 'Star just doesn't know the difference between, say, a handshake / hug and an open-mouth kiss. Maybe he doesn't know the difference between friendship and a romantic relationship.

If that's the case, we should have some interesting drama coming our way.

-Pav, who also can't wait to find out 'Star and Longshot's connection even though I previously had no interest in either....

chrissstopher

10-01-2009, 08:06 AM

-Pav, who also can't wait to find out 'Star and Longshot's connection even though I previously had no interest in either....

Right? I'm so excited to finally get all that stuff out in the open... I hope Dazzler gets involved too and we can get it all hashed out.

CmX

10-01-2009, 08:43 AM

I loved this issue! It might sound odd, but this was one of my favorite issues in the entire arc.

No I agree. I felt the first few issues of this arc really dragged the story, but this issue was really good. The dialogue was great and the story is moving finally to it's climax. I thought it was an exciting issue all around.

uncanny_mark

10-01-2009, 07:51 PM

The story played out quite nicely, and Im glad the Shatterstar/Rictor thing finally got addressed, and the Guido, Shatterstar, Rictor dynamic is just priceless. Can't wait for issue 50.

CrimsonComedian

10-01-2009, 09:48 PM

Loved the Guido/Rictor/Shatter in the beginning. Guido's lines were comedic, really loosened the awkwardness.

And Doom is one bad bad man.

ReturnOfTheComeback

10-01-2009, 11:38 PM

Since his likely father is Longshot, and considering that the Bipeds of the Mojoverse were designed created to be ENTERTAINERS for an entire dimension full of amoral couch-potatoes, (who were mostly perverts, deviants, and maniacs), and his likely-mother Dazzler is apparently bisexual, I would assume that Shatterstar is actually Pansexual to the Extreme ( take that Rob ) , you know , for Maximum Sex & Violence Fanservice Appeal. Hehehehehehe, he could very well be a latent mutant man-whore ...

thawrecka

10-02-2009, 12:56 AM

I'm convinced I hallucinated much of this issue because very little of it made sense to me. Probably it'll make sense upon reread and I'll feel dopey for not getting it, but then I'm still convinced I hallucinated the X-Force '99 Annual and the entirety of Umbrella Academy.

Greg Anderson

10-02-2009, 05:58 AM

If I've got all of that right, it seems that PAD is really playing with the whole "behind the scenes" aspect of it - playing both sides of it let's say. Because we now know that, yeah, Rictor really did have emotional feelings for 'Star. But 'Star might not feel the same way about Ric. Kissing Val shows me that 'Star just doesn't know the difference between, say, a handshake / hug and an open-mouth kiss. Maybe he doesn't know the difference between friendship and a romantic relationship.

.

That's how I felt when I read that scene. I actually chuckled when he kissed Val. Haha! I said to myself, "Yeesh, Rictor read that kiss wrong." And wondered how people who were excited about the pairing would feel. :biggrin:

Big Red Spider

10-02-2009, 12:00 PM

Yeah! Factor has a teleporter now. That'll give M's jet a rest.

protogarrett

10-02-2009, 01:25 PM

I think PAD just showed us, though, that there is more to Shatterstar. I've read next to nothing with him in it, but I do recall the whole debate about whether or not Rictor and Shatterstar were gay. And if I recall correctly, the writer from that period said that he basically meant for Shatterstar to not really know what it meant to have a friend; he was from a different culture and hadn't ever really known affection. So, he wasn't attracted to Rictor sexually so much as he was experiencing an emotional relationship with someone for the first time.

If I've got all of that right, it seems that PAD is really playing with the whole "behind the scenes" aspect of it - playing both sides of it let's say. Because we now know that, yeah, Rictor really did have emotional feelings for 'Star. But 'Star might not feel the same way about Ric. Kissing Val shows me that 'Star just doesn't know the difference between, say, a handshake / hug and an open-mouth kiss. Maybe he doesn't know the difference between friendship and a romantic relationship.

If that's the case, we should have some interesting drama coming our way.

....

Good analysis of the situation using the information we have. I approve.

Bookem Danno

10-06-2009, 08:41 PM

Michael P

10-06-2009, 10:11 PM

The car ride was fabulous. Was the 'giving you guys a rough time' just for the comedy punchline to the pun on 'state' or is ita topical reference Guido is most likely referring to specifically?

The car gate was odd. Could the car have been lead shielded to explain why Star had to be outside to generate the X opening? This 'condition' would be a reasonable limitation to prevent boringly easy death trap escapes down the road.

He probably has to be able to see the place where he's making the gate clearly, which he couldn't really do from the backseat (Guido's got a big head).

coconutphone

10-07-2009, 07:38 AM

The car ride was fabulous. Was the 'giving you guys a rough time' just for the comedy punchline to the pun on 'state' or is ita topical reference Guido is most likely referring to specifically?

The car gate was odd. Could the car have been lead shielded to explain why Star had to be outside to generate the X opening? This 'condition' would be a reasonable limitation to prevent boringly easy death trap escapes down the road.

Oh I definitely think it was a topical reference.

Anyone else notice that 50 was pushed back a week? Sad face.

Peter David

10-07-2009, 01:15 PM

Oh I definitely think it was a topical reference.

Anyone else notice that 50 was pushed back a week? Sad face.

Yeah, but now it'll include a preview of issue #200.

PAD

RickyD410

10-07-2009, 01:54 PM

Yeah, but now it'll include a preview of issue #200.

PAD
Sick! Happy face!

jarrod

10-07-2009, 01:58 PM

Preview? I hope it's filled with Ruiners! <3 <3

coconutphone

10-07-2009, 02:08 PM

Yeah, but now it'll include a preview of issue #200.

PAD

Oh I'll get confused again :(

A week doesn't really bother me. It's jsut that this is something I've been waiting for for ages so even a slight delay feels like forver. I know I'll be there on the Wednesday.

PAD can you tell us who's doing the 200 variants?

Mia

10-07-2009, 03:05 PM

I had a look at this issue today. I have to say I was impressed. After following for years the arguments as to whether or not Rictor was a 'switch hitter'. I was a bit curious to see how the whole matter would be handled. The whole thing was treated in an intelligent and interesting way without it making as if the author was getting on a soap box. Not bad.

okpanic

10-07-2009, 04:37 PM

Loved it. Another little twist at the end which makes it hard to pinpoint who exactly is the biggest threat at the party, because at the moment it seems the deck is stacked pretty damn high. That's pretty much what makes it fun.

Justin K.

10-07-2009, 05:25 PM

Oh I'll get confused again :(

A week doesn't really bother me. It's jsut that this is something I've been waiting for for ages so even a slight delay feels like forver. I know I'll be there on the Wednesday.

PAD can you tell us who's doing the 200 variants?

Ryan Sook is doing a variant.

RickyD410

10-07-2009, 05:27 PM

Ryan Sook is doing a variant.

I thought I heard that David Yardin was as well.

I dont know which I'd want more, Yardin's or Sook's. I love both their styles. Theyre different, but both awesome.

Victorious

10-08-2009, 01:35 AM

Again, X-Factor never dissapont. Great issue!

The Future

Doom and Clops dialogue was beyond awesome and so really analogous to present real world. Love how PAD introduce the dialogue as one of Doom’s moments of lucidity. Genius. Real, cruel and genius.

Wondering how Jamie (possibly his Cortex-dupe) and Layla cause all this mess. Can’t wait to find out. Maybe Layla is responsible for Anciente Tryp showing up.

I love the future team fighting together, hope we see more of them next issue. I know probably none or maybe Ruby (apart from Layla and Jamie) would came back, so I really do hope to see them in action again next issue.

Doom betraying them was surprising, maybe he has a plan? or he is just evil?

The Present

Love Guido’s sacrifice and Lenore’s little “power” moment.

I didn’t read anything with Shatterstar before, but I think it’s cool for X-Factor to have a teleporter, after all every X-Men team have one. And I will became handy if they are dealing with several cases in NY, like having various teams according to the mission, after all, they are like 10 already.

About Rictor and Star…
I like how PAD is handling the whole Rictor & Star pairing. Very realistic and hilarious at the same time, good work PAD. Guido’s reaction was so real. I remember that when I told some of my friends about me being gay they have the same reaction. Not that they feel betrayed or anything similar, but they were all like: “you know, you should have told me, I’m ok with it, why didn’t you told me before?”. I can totally understand the feeling. On the other hand, it would have been cool to see the other side of the situation, you know, like Rictor telling Guido it wasn’t easy for him to tell him, or didn’t want Rahne to know, or something like that would have being great. Not as an excuse, but I bet he had a reason too. I also like how PAD tries to naturalize the fact he was bisexual, like… straight guys don’t show up and say: “hi, I’m heterosexual”, gay and bi shouldn’t do that either, it should be a natural thing that it should be clarify if necessary in a normal conversation. And that was Rictor point. Love how PAD deal with it that way. The situation with the suicide guy was hilarious too.

Also, love how unconditionally Rictor loves Star and how much he trust him and protect him. It was fun to see he is not the only one Star is kissing. I have three theories here:
1) Maybe (as we know he wasn’t sleeping) he heard Rictor and Guido conversation and he listen Rictor was sleeping with Rahne and he wants to get Rictor jealous to show him how much that hurts or bothers him.
2) I like preppistonpav theory. I believe he do love Rictor, but he doesn’t kiss him in order to be with him, but as the only way of affection he knows, and Rictor just misread that. If that’s the case, why didn’t he kiss Guido when he saw him? and PAD already said they are a couple, right. Plus, the #50 issue do show them as a couple.
3) He just somehow transferred some kind of knowledge to Val when he kiss her, some knowledge of where he have being, judging her comment after the kiss. I know, that would be crazy, but X-Factor has given us some surprises already. Plus, Star already show a new ability.

Love how PAD hinted a possible miniseries about Star, love to read that under his pen. Layla and Quicksilver one-shots were awesome.

Victorious

10-08-2009, 01:36 AM

Yeah, but now it'll include a preview of issue #200.

PAD

Wow, great news Mr PAD!

coconutphone

10-08-2009, 06:02 AM

I thought I heard that David Yardin was as well.

I dont know which I'd want more, Yardin's or Sook's. I love both their styles. Theyre different, but both awesome.

and I'm getting all. 3 :)

twbasketcase

10-08-2009, 06:33 AM

Also, love how unconditionally Rictor loves Star and how much he trust him and protect him. It was fun to see he is not the only one Star is kissing. I have three theories here:
1) Maybe (as we know he wasn’t sleeping) he heard Rictor and Guido conversation and he listen Rictor was sleeping with Rahne and he wants to get Rictor jealous to show him how much that hurts or bothers him.
2) I like preppistonpav theory. I believe he do love Rictor, but he doesn’t kiss him in order to be with him, but as the only way of affection he knows, and Rictor just misread that. If that’s the case, why didn’t he kiss Guido when he saw him? and PAD already said they are a couple, right. Plus, the #50 issue do show them as a couple.
3) He just somehow transferred some kind of knowledge to Val when he kiss her, some knowledge of where he have being, judging her comment after the kiss. I know, that would be crazy, but X-Factor has given us some surprises already. Plus, Star already show a new ability.

Love how PAD hinted a possible miniseries about Star, love to read that under his pen. Layla and Quicksilver one-shots were awesome.

Interesting theories. I initially interpreted it as your theory number one when I first read it, but theory three actually makes a lot of sense too. I wouldn't mind if it was a mixture of the two. He had to touch Rictor's face to figure out where X-Factor HQ was before teleporting. Perhaps he kissed Val to find the location of the rest of the team before they went off again-- only choosing to kiss her because of all the bisexuality talk in the car.

Koopa

10-08-2009, 08:07 AM

Interesting theories. I initially interpreted it as your theory number one when I first read it, but theory three actually makes a lot of sense too. I wouldn't mind if it was a mixture of the two. He had to touch Rictor's face to figure out where X-Factor HQ was before teleporting. Perhaps he kissed Val to find the location of the rest of the team before they went off again-- only choosing to kiss her because of all the bisexuality talk in the car.
:biggrin: nao that would be funny... would really like it that way.

Scavenger

10-08-2009, 01:30 PM

My thoughts about Guido are that he just felt a little betrayed because he thought he was very close with Ric, and then he found out he really doesnt know alot about him.

I pretty much agree on this...Guido used to be the bodyguard for an intergalatic criminal rockstar and had to have been exposed to all sorts of lifestyles for something like "the kiss" to bother him on a moral level.

Mundungus

10-10-2009, 07:15 PM

I sure loved this issue.

The Rictor/Guido conversation made me laugh out loud. I NEVER laugh out loud, or at least it is very, very rare.

I loved it when Guido caught the bridge jumper. I kind of want him to come back and follow Guido around. Maybe even silly Twilight references where he tries to put himself in dangerous situations so Guido will rescue him. Something stupid like that.

I also like Shatterstar. I'm sure he's a far cry from the days of perpetually gritted teeth and non-stop screaming of exposition but I like his assured attitude, and his free-wheeling abandon. I didn't expect him to kiss Val Cooper.

Mundungus

10-10-2009, 08:00 PM

Let this one for you to do. :wink:

Great issue. Loved the moments in the car, and it was funny to see Guido freaking out like that. He's obviously bothered by Rictor and Shatterstar, but why exactly? Is it the man on man action or is it the fact that he knew nothing about it and feels a little betrayed? The fact that he mentions Rahne makes me think he feels like Rictor was being unfair and not honest to her.

I think Guido's response fell under the "why did you never tell me" category.

I won't specify my connection to these people, both woman, but a short time after one of them passed away it was revealed to me that they had been in a romantic relationship and I responded with aggression and denial. It wasn't until I was cleaning up the deceased's room that I discovered a letter that the other (who had passed away several years before) had written for the former. It confirmed the relationship between them. I was still upset about it, but it wasn't out of prejudice. It was raw feelings of betrayal, of not knowing. I can completely relate to Guido in this situation. I've come to accept and even appreciate the love they had as I'm sure Guido will depending on how this develops.

I'm not trying to post my personal issues, but I thought it was a relevant connection to be made.

zati1

10-20-2009, 11:33 AM

I laughed out loud no fewer than five times. In the first scene alone.

The Doom/Mr. Clops scene...man literally this is comedy gold.

Toto

10-23-2009, 03:07 PM

A bit late but anyway... Hilarious issue, one of my favorites from the whole series maybe.

So Guido can break the 4th wall too like Deadpool and She-Hulk or it was just this one time?

Someone asked it before but I cannot comprehend it either: what does sy mean in this context? Something along the lines of boss or some kind of title/rank?

Anna

10-23-2009, 06:28 PM

Kalen O.

10-23-2009, 07:40 PM

Eh. Never mind.

dicjones

10-24-2009, 12:03 AM

Dr-Strange

10-24-2009, 10:30 AM

Top Marvel title at the moment in my opinion.

JohnSD

10-24-2009, 10:39 AM

I use to collect X-factor back in the day. I have issues 1-50. I was thinking of starting up again, especially since they are going to restart the numbering at 200. Is it worth adding another 2.99 to my monthly comic book allowance....and be honest, I know you are all fans...try not to be too biased...lol.

Definitely worth it for one of the best written Marvel books out today. But whatever the title and numbering say, it's not the same book as when you used to collect it...

Peter David

10-25-2009, 11:34 PM

I use to collect X-factor back in the day. I have issues 1-50. I was thinking of starting up again, especially since they are going to restart the numbering at 200. Is it worth adding another 2.99 to my monthly comic book allowance....and be honest, I know you are all fans...try not to be too biased...lol.

I dunno...the book's pretty good, but I hear the writer's kind of a jerk...

PAD

Slung

10-25-2009, 11:37 PM

I dunno...the book's pretty good, but I hear the writer's kind of a jerk...

PAD

To be fair, he has to deal with some really dumb fans.

Chaos_Alfa

10-26-2009, 09:56 AM

I dunno...the book's pretty good, but I hear the writer's kind of a jerk...

PAD

Don't believe the second part. That's just PAD second personality speaking bad about his first personality :tongue:

X-Factor is with X-Force one of the best X-books coming out right now.

HollowChatter

11-03-2009, 11:02 AM

I know I'm bumping this well after the issue is relevant, but I had a theory about the Shatterstar/V Coop kiss that I didn't see mentioned yet.

Considering that Shatterstar still doesn't have a fully nuanced grasp of human interactions, maybe he kissed Val in front of Guido is a misguided effort to make him feel less uncomfortable with the other kiss. I mean, he did overhear the entire conversation in the car, so maybe he just came to a little bit of a skewed conclusion regarding Guido's feelings and figured that once he kissed someone else, the weirdness would be alleviated.

There's no real evidence to support this, but nothing contradicts it, so its one possible reading.